| Seriously now why is this still a thing in the law its incredibly stupid. Just watch from 4:10 - 4:40 how gleefully that feminist brought up that law when it comes to rape as it gloating about it and how the host shut down that important subject. How can any feminist think that rule is ok. Is it any wonder new wave feminism is hated? |
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| Hey that's sexist! |
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| women can't rape women are equal to men pick one ;D |
| Explain to me how this one woman saying women cant rape is the universal representative for every feminist ever. Lets not forget how many males [even on MAL] make fun of statutory rape saying the boy is lucky to get raped by a female teacher, so dont make it sound like its just the ~cRaZy FeMiNaZiS~ you all love to complain about who think this way |
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marriage said: Explain to me how this one woman saying women cant rape is the universal representative for every feminist ever. Lets not forget how many males [even on MAL] make fun of statutory rape saying the boy is lucky to get raped by a female teacher, so dont make it sound like its just the ~cRaZy FeMiNaZiS~ you all love to complain about who think this way I hate generalization, proceeds to generalize G8 going m8 top marks. The difference is the law is fact and in place that says women can't rape so its hardly some jokes online is it. |
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| Most true feminists either came from poor or worse areas or nations or had a very bad past or upbringing that shaped their character, most of the older ones were involved in the beginnings of environmentalism, civil rights, and other things, you'll find some former hippies in there too, these whiners of the 3rd wave like in that video are upper middle class, came from happy and/or prestigious upbringings, came from 1st world nations, and haven't fought in any movement against a real life problem that exists, and are shaped by their lust for greed and power. |
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| That's like saying minorities can't be racist. |
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x-Tr1gger said: Many feminists are misguided angry women that got cheated on. |
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Protaku94 said: That's like saying minorities can't be racist. and then making it law. "A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents." Wheres the women rapists in this? wheres the representation and outcry to all those male rape victims? no they don't have marches in the street and support. |
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Spooky_Love said: marriage said: Explain to me how this one woman saying women cant rape is the universal representative for every feminist ever. Lets not forget how many males [even on MAL] make fun of statutory rape saying the boy is lucky to get raped by a female teacher, so dont make it sound like its just the ~cRaZy FeMiNaZiS~ you all love to complain about who think this way I hate generalization, proceeds to generalize G8 going m8 top marks. The difference is the law is fact and in place that says women can't rape so its hardly some jokes online is it. Ok? Then why not make a thread about the law instead of yet another antifeminism circlejerk thread? Gholy said: "Crazy Feminazis" Do I sense a No True Scotsman fallacy? I cringe every time I see your replies. Nothing more embarrassing here than another Immahnoob imitator. |
Spooky_Love said: Protaku94 said: That's like saying minorities can't be racist. and then making it law. "A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents." Wheres the women rapists in this? wheres the representation and outcry to all those male rape victims? no they don't have marches in the street and support. Is that the actual law? |
WingsOfValor said: Is that the actual law? Yes and feminists intend to keep it that way with things like this. http://www.infowars.com/harvard-prof-rape-law-classes-no-longer-taught-due-to-feminist-outrage/ |
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Spooky_Love said: lol that law must have been conceived when the US was founded in the XVIII century.WingsOfValor said: YesIs that the actual law? |
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Kinkara said: Spooky_Love said: lol that law must have been conceived when the US was founded in the XVIII century.Yes 2003 |
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Gholy said: marriage said: "Crazy Feminazis"Explain to me how this one woman saying women cant rape is the universal representative for every feminist ever. Lets not forget how many males [even on MAL] make fun of statutory rape saying the boy is lucky to get raped by a female teacher, so dont make it sound like its just the ~cRaZy FeMiNaZiS~ you all love to complain about who think this way Do I sense a No True Scotsman fallacy? Inspector Gholy, on the case. |
Spooky_Love said: There wasn't any law about rape before that?Kinkara said: 2003lol that law must have been conceived when the US was founded in the XVIII century. |
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Spooky_Love said: WingsOfValor said: Is that the actual law? Yes Wow, that's stupid. I just checked the German 'Strafgesetzbuch' and it's not gender-specific for us. So that's definitely not the case everywhere in the world. |
Kinkara said: Spooky_Love said: There wasn't any law about rape before that?2003 It was basically the same with minor differences (1) It is an offence for a man to rape a woman or another man. (2) A man commits rape if - (a) he has sexual intercourse with a person (whether vaginal or anal) who at the time of the intercourse does not consent to it; and (b) at the time he knows that the person does not consent to the intercourse or is reckless as to whether that person consents to it. (3) A man also commits rape if he induces a married woman to have sexual intercourse with him by impersonating her husband. (4) Subsection (2) applies for the purposes of any enactment. Basically if a woman rapes you here there ain't jack shit you can do about it. Is that equality? is that taking rape seriously? where are the feminists fighting this if they truly believe in equality for both sexes been thats their go to argument. |
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| Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. |
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WingsOfValor said: For us too, here in Argentina, a man can rape another man or a woman. A woman can not rape a man, but it can rape another woman.Wow, that's stupid. I just checked the German 'Strafgesetzbuch' and it's not gender-specific for us. So that's definitely not the case everywhere in the world. Spooky_Love said: lol wut?(3) A man also commits rape if he induces a married woman to have sexual intercourse with him by impersonating her husband. |
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| that's a law? wtf |
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Red_Keys said: Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. I'm definitely going to masturbate to her. Gorgeous as fuck. |
Red_Keys said: they are just mixing words in that video. that'd be psychological abuse or something.Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. NudeBear said: LOOOOOLI'm definitely going to masturbate to her. Gorgeous as fuck. |
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NudeBear said: Red_Keys said: Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. I'm definitely going to masturbate to her. Gorgeous as fuck. Stop the raping! >.< |
| Uh... I can understand English well when it's written but I'm not that good when it's oral. So... I'm gonna ask... Is she saying a woman can't rape a man because she's a woman and women are "beings of pure light" (I'm not saying those are her words but it's something along those lines?). Or what? Because... that's stupid... is she saying a man never could be raped by a women? What...? Is she saying that's true because a law says blah blah blah? So what happens if a man is raped by a woman? It's sad that nobody will listen to you about something like this because you're a man and "women can't rape men, because [insert some stupid excuse here]". These kind of laws have to protect everyone... not just some... As I've said I didn't hear well what she said so I'm not sure if what I'm saying is OT. So sorry in advance if this wasn't the topic. |
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Gholy said: PoeticJustice said: Lol, is this actually going to be a thing now?Inspector Gholy, on the case. Damn right, you da reel detective now. |
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| I was loling the whole video Like, wat. Humanity never ceases to amuse, even if the topic isn't something that should make you amused. |
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AzureDaora said: I was loling the whole video Like, wat. Humanity never ceases to amuse, even if the topic isn't something that should make you amused. Well we have to teach boys not to rape from as early as possible, even long before they develop sexually so we can fuck up their minds and then blame men again for it. |
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| Ugh. This is such a sticky subject, especially for me. I do consider myself a feminist... in that I believe everyone, regardless of gender, deserves to be treated with the equal amount of dignity and respect. There is a LOT of misogyny in this world. A woman's role in a sexual relationship is still idealized as one of subservience and availability. And as one who speaks from experience, you have not experienced misery and fear until you've found yourself in a relationship with someone who sees you as a sexually available for their use, when they want, regardless of what you want, simply because you are in a relationship with that person and a woman. There are both men and women who believe that a relationship entitles them to sex. However, I have come across a lot more men who are of that opinion. How did they learn that that kind of attitude was okay? Where is the dignity and respect in it? "I got carried away by the mood" is no longer a valid excuse for sexually assaulting anyone. The idea behind consent is that partners have an open and honest dialogue about their sexual relationship and what they are willing to do/have done to them. To force desires onto anyone, regardless of gender, is a form of assault. BTW, the title of this forum post is misleading, purposely inflammatory, and quite frankly, insulting. |
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teighnted said: BTW, the title of this forum post is misleading, purposely inflammatory, and quite frankly, insulting. Legally women can't rape. Please tell me how its misleading and insulting, do tell. |
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NudeBear said: Red_Keys said: Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. I'm definitely going to masturbate to her. Gorgeous as fuck. I feel you bruh |
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teighnted said: That's humanism then, not feminism. Feminism isn't the right word.Ugh. This is such a sticky subject, especially for me. I do consider myself a feminist... in that I believe everyone, regardless of gender, deserves to be treated with the equal amount of dignity and respect. |
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Spooky_Love said: teighnted said: BTW, the title of this forum post is misleading, purposely inflammatory, and quite frankly, insulting. Legally women can't rape. Please tell me how its misleading and insulting, do tell. - It implies that women do not recognize a need for consent. - It caters to trolls and flamers - It refers to laws regarding sexual assault in one country, but does not address other laws elsewhere - It does not encourage an actual conversation about consent and/or healthy sexual relationships Hey, I realize this is a forum but I can't scroll past something like that, read things like Many feminists are misguided angry women that got cheated on. and ignore it. Like the poster from Germany, I also live in a country where gender is not recognized when it comes to "rape". The term "rape" is no longer used and has been replaced by sexual assault, criminal sexual activity, etc. |
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teighnted said: - It implies that women do not recognize a need for consent. No it doesn't, its a factual statement nothing more. teighnted said: - It caters to trolls and flamers No it doesn't, its a factual statement nothing more. teighnted said: - It refers to laws regarding sexual assault in one country, but does not address other laws elsewhere And, this is about UK law im under no obligation to make this thread about the world. teighnted said: - It does not encourage an actual conversation about consent and/or healthy sexual relationships Yes it does. |
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BlueScarf said: That's humanism then, not feminism. Feminism isn't the right word. feminism:" the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities" humanism: "A system of thought that focuses on humans and their values, capacities, and worth." |
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teighnted said: BlueScarf said: That's humanism then, not feminism. Feminism isn't the right word. feminism:" the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities" Actually "Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women." Theres a reason male and men are not part of its title feminism. |
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| Just skimming through the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (UK) I've found that "rape" is a charge used specifically for male committed sexual violence. However, there are quite a few other laws under this act in which gender does not play a role. Such subsections include: - assault by penetration - sexual assault - causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent By UK law, women cannot rape. They can, however, be found guilty of committing other, just as serious, offenses. |
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teighnted said: By UK law, women cannot rape. They can, however, be found guilty of committing other, just as serious, offenses. The fact that you are ok with the law that women can't rape because hey there's other laws right? show's you gender bias. Equality is not just a term its a practice, if feminists aren't willing to adhere to that then they have no movement. Funny that you find the title offensive but the actual practice you try to rationalist as been ok. |
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teighnted said: It also states ": organized activity in support of women's rights and interests" which is unfair.BlueScarf said: That's humanism then, not feminism. Feminism isn't the right word. feminism:" the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities" humanism: "A system of thought that focuses on humans and their values, capacities, and worth." When I mean feminism and humanism, I mean their contextual use of today. |
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Spooky_Love said: Actually "Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women." Theres a reason male and men are not part of its title feminism. I know a lot of male and female "feminists" who would disagree with that. The only people I've heard describe feminism as a feminine only movement would be die-hard femi-nazis. |
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Spooky_Love said: teighnted said: feminism:" the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities" Actually "Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women." Theres a reason male and men are not part of its title feminism. You said the same thing he said. |
Spooky_Love said: WingsOfValor said: Is that the actual law? Yes and feminists intend to keep it that way with things like this. http://www.infowars.com/harvard-prof-rape-law-classes-no-longer-taught-due-to-feminist-outrage/ Also true in Israel. http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Womens-groups-Cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape But wait, I thought the Middle East... oh, well. Red_Keys said: Uh, STOP. You should not be talking about this. This is DERAILMENT and MISOGYNY. Women sometimes have to be looked at by guys they don't want looking at them. THAT is real rape. This is just rape apology. Sad but true. Feminist often would rather act offended (or try to define them out of the movement... not a REAL FEMINIST™) by someone calling out the radicals than join the calling out and clean out their movement. More people will want to identify as feminists then. |
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