| we hate it because people without the same level of burning passion for anime that we have are out there enjoying it. they know nothing of anime! we are better than them |
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Sushiii said: I think that 15 eps is more than enough to convince a watcher. I just wanted to know if it improved. And your comment says it is not.johnyjohny said: Dude what, you haven't even gotten to the filler portion yet. Goddammit dudes put a f ing spoiler tag under that shit. Also give me a good reason to continue Naruto even when i saw 15 eps already. I don't like naruto, but it's not even that bad pre 130 |
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| Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P |
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| While the first season had a lot of fillers it was still a pretty good season in my opinion. The chuunin exam arc is what made this season, and i still look back now and i still think the chuunin exam arc is the best arc of the whole naruto series. Like it better when naruto was not "americanized" as it is now. It was more genuine before. Some people just can't take fillers and there is always someone hating on the big ones. |
Pocketasces said: we hate it because people without the same level of burning passion for anime that we have are out there enjoying it. they know nothing of anime! we are better than them I mean, you can look at my anime lists and decide for yourself, based on what you see, whether or not I have the same "burning passion" as yourself. I thoroughly enjoy other, more sophisticated, psychological, "better" anime, but that's an ignorant thing to assume: that naruto is discredited from being a good, enjoyable anime. Why? I don't get it, I just went back and saw |
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johnyjohny said: Goddammit dudes put a f ing spoiler tag under that shit. Also give me a good reason to continue Naruto even when i saw 15 eps already. I apologize for not realizing that people in this discussion weren't up to date or hadn't dropped it definitely, I didn't see your post before. If you find yourself having the time, you can easily download every episode minus the fillers, and watch straight canon anime. After 15 episodes you feel like you want to give it another chance, go ahead, it's up to you to decide whether or not you enjoy it. Personally, I love it, and I love rewatching it. To me, it doesn't get old. If you have the time and you're committed, you can really invest yourself into both Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. Or if you're pressed for time, the manga is also available without fillers. I love the manga more than I do the anime |
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insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P |
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| Because it's overly mainstream to hate on mainstream shet. Naruto fans to haters, no matter how you look at it, can be seen in a 100;1 ratio. People who hate the series are just far more vocal about it, albeit no more intellectual. Creating threads like this does nothing but further fuel the fire of hatred, don't try to force your love down someone's throat... You could go to jail for that. Unit-01 said: This forum needs an influx of Jotards... I guess that would be Gamefaqs forte though.tsudecimo said: Huntards are the new Narutards.Because it's popular and most people hate it's fanbase. |
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JD2411 said: I went into Naruto expecting to hate it, but it turned out pretty good. If you skip fillers it's quite enjoyable. Admittedly, the show has it's flaws but it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. Also, I think the Zabuza and Haku arc is one of the best arcs in any shounen. god bless |
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Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: Naruto fans to haters, no matter how you look at it, can be seen in a 100;1 ratio. How did you work that out? The Like:dislike ratio of people who have seen it is 7:1 Of course disliking it doesn't mean you're a hater, but I dont think only 7% of people who dislike Naruto are haters, more like 50%, which makes it 14:1. |
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insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P oh. those. Yeah, I hated them for the most part too, except for that one in shippuden with the feather. Yeah, had that as my ringtone for the longest time, my neighbor loved it. His ringtone is Pain's theme. Oh no! Akise is one of your favorite characters D: |
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Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P oh. those. Yeah, I hated them for the most part too, except for that one in shippuden with the feather. Yeah, had that as my ringtone for the longest time, my neighbor loved it. His ringtone is Pain's theme. Oh no! Akise is one of your favorite characters D: Haha Pein reminds me of Ichigo :P :O What's wrong with Akise? D: |
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insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P oh. those. Yeah, I hated them for the most part too, except for that one in shippuden with the feather. Yeah, had that as my ringtone for the longest time, my neighbor loved it. His ringtone is Pain's theme. Oh no! Akise is one of your favorite characters D: Haha Pein reminds me of Ichigo :P :O What's wrong with Akise? D: it must be the orange hair!! Pain would mop the floor with Ichigo, doesn't matter which form he is :P although I do love Ichigo's character, just not as much as Pain. AND I think I like screaming out SHINRA TENSEI out loud more so than I do BANKAI before attacking my neighbors and younger brother. I dunno, I just wasn't a fan of him. How dare he try to steal Yukii away from Yuno!! I didn't appreciate the way he tainted their love. Oh! And how he tried turning Yuki against Yuno... nope, I'm team Yuki x Yuno |
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| I love Naruto, and I think it continues to get better as well. I thought Part 1 was... well... alright. But I absolutely love Part 2. I think recent events in the manga have been handled well, and the Juubi Revival arc would probably be one of my favorites if Obito wasn't such a bitch. Yes, I get that he is not actually doing this because of Rin's death, but it sure seems like he is (despite him denying it). I'm going to be pissed off if Sasuke is good, but I don't believe that he is truly good because of the numerous hints in the manga that he is not (shading, shady quotes, etc). I think he is going down the road of a dictator. The Fourth Shinobi War arc absolutely sucked up until Madara was revived, but after that I loved it. This Obito/Madara fight is being hell dragged, but it has had enough entertaining things happen to keep that out of my mind. |
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insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P Are you kidding me, the openings/endings in naruto were spectacular, its the ones in shippuuden that are crap especially the endings. Minagatachi said: I love Naruto, and I think it continues to get better as well. I thought Part 1 was... well... alright. But I absolutely love Part 2. I think recent events in the manga have been handled well, and the Juubi Revival arc would probably be one of my favorites if Obito wasn't such a bitch. Yes, I get that he is not actually doing this because of Rin's death, but it sure seems like he is (despite him denying it). I'm going to be pissed off if Sasuke is good, but I don't believe that he is truly good because of the numerous hints in the manga that he is not (shading, shady quotes, etc). I think he is going down the road of a dictator. The Fourth Shinobi War arc absolutely sucked up until Madara was revived, but after that I loved it. This Obito/Madara fight is being hell dragged, but it has had enough entertaining things happen to keep that out of my mind. Nope their is another reason behind it, people are just to blind to see it. It has not been explained yet but trust me i know, im a physic lol. I actually liked the original series naruto more so than shippuuden in regards to consistency, it was structured well, kishi did not just forget bout characters, he gave each and every one of his characters enough attention to detail and development to where you really started caring bout all of the konoho 11. But once shippuuden began, he kind of lost that structuring of the series where many characters got left in the dust like lee, teten, temari, gaara, etc. Also even though the animation is greater in shippuuden, higher quality, naruto the original series beat shippuuden in that department as well imo, Because production maintained equal quality throughout the entirety of the show, their was never a moment were you would think that certain arcs are a huge downgrade in quality and animation compared to other arcs, it all kind of remained consistent throughout. Where as shippuuden their was all kinds of inconsistencies in regards to production, character designs, etc. I will say shippuuden's higher points though is definitely the sound tracks for one and also the story was alot more deeper and darker, but their are still times were i think the original series just did everything right in every department despite what people think, thats a true fact. |
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ArtemisX said: insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P Are you kidding me, the openings/endings in naruto were spectacular, its the ones in shippuuden that are crap especially the endings. Yup, I was talking about Shippuden, I believe it was the fourth OP that was the only one I truly liked. As for the Naruto OPs, how could I not love them, they were all so nostalgic, and being a kid in like sixth grade listening to Japanese songs made me feel awesome as fuck |
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artemisX said: It has not been explained yet but trust me i know, im a physic lol. I actually liked the original series naruto more so than shippuuden in regards to consistency, it was structured well, kishi did not just forget bout characters, he gave each and every one of his characters enough attention to detail and development to where you really started caring bout all of the konoho 11. But once shippuuden began, he kind of lost that structuring of the series where many characters got left in the dust like lee, teten, temari, gaara, etc. Also even though the animation is greater in shippuuden, higher quality, naruto the original series beat shippuuden in that department as well imo, Because production maintained equal quality throughout the entirety of the show, their was never a moment were you would think that certain arcs are a huge downgrade in quality and animation compared to other arcs, it all kind of remained consistent throughout. Where as shippuuden their was all kinds of inconsistencies in regards to production, character designs, etc. I will say shippuuden's higher points though is definitely the sound tracks for one and also the story was alot more deeper and darker, but their are still times were i think the original series just did everything right in every department despite what people think, thats a true fact. Season 8 episode 16, Planetary Devistation, love that episode's animation, holy shit. I have the entire series downloaded minus fillers and I always go back and watch that episode the most more than anything. That episode, that's the fighting quality I like to see in my action anime. It was also there when Naruto fought Sasuke at the Valley of the End after he began relying on Kurama's chakra. That shit was cray also |
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| No character development, to many fillers, and its just a boring experience |
Toothless_Snake said: No character development LOL |
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tsudman said: Toothless_Snake said: No character development LOL I don't get the no character development part. There's a shit ton of character development. Look at my girl Hinata. Naruto is always an exciting experience, toothless snake, i dunno what you're saying. |
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Toothless_Snake said: No character development To say that you think the character developments in Naruto are bad is one thing but to completely deny it, is really pushing it. Oh well, nothing new here, hating on Naruto was always the ''in'' thing. |
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Toothless_Snake said: No character development, to many fillers, and its just a boring experience Now that is just plain some one how has hate for the series, saying it has no character development at all is just plain ignorance. You clearly do not belong on this thread, after looking at your list you dropped the series and never even read the manga, even dropped the great DBZ after 13 episodes. Some who is a shonen fan, who in the hell would drop DBZ? |
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Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Mobius_Trip said: insanity- said: Are you serious!? The music is one of my favorite parts of the whole series!!! The feels I get ;-;Wayyy to many fillers, the fights which are called "epic" are not even epic, the drawings aren't that good, the music isn't that good either. I can see why people including me don't like it :P I'm talking about the OP/ED :P Like very little of them were good :P oh. those. Yeah, I hated them for the most part too, except for that one in shippuden with the feather. Yeah, had that as my ringtone for the longest time, my neighbor loved it. His ringtone is Pain's theme. Oh no! Akise is one of your favorite characters D: Haha Pein reminds me of Ichigo :P :O What's wrong with Akise? D: it must be the orange hair!! Pain would mop the floor with Ichigo, doesn't matter which form he is :P although I do love Ichigo's character, just not as much as Pain. AND I think I like screaming out SHINRA TENSEI out loud more so than I do BANKAI before attacking my neighbors and younger brother. I dunno, I just wasn't a fan of him. How dare he try to steal Yukii away from Yuno!! I didn't appreciate the way he tainted their love. Oh! And how he tried turning Yuki against Yuno... nope, I'm team Yuki x Yuno What Ichigo is wayy better than him. Also Ichigo is stronger than him he can kill him in a second. Well screaming his power out may sound better but Ichigo's power is better. XD Whatt but like I love Yuki x Yuno too but like Yuno killed him she went to far. I don't hate her but still. Akise is so amazing and smart :3 How can you HATE him. D: |
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insanity- said: What Ichigo is wayy better than him. What! Ichigo is wayy stronger than him he can kill him in a second. Well screaming his power out may sound better but Ichigo's power is better. XD Whatt but like I love Yuki x Yuno too but like Yuno killed him she went to far. I don't hate her but still. Akise is so amazing and smart :3 How can you HATE him. D: What. |
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Mazaev said: I used to be on the Naruto hate wagon for years, since it started really. I hate myself for doing so but after giving into temptation last year and trying it it's probably my favourite series of all time. People hate on it because it's mainstream because of it's amazing story telling and action. Alot of people on this site are too anti mainstream and can't handle the idea of the shounen genre. That answers your question, MAL is pretty bias towards the shounen genre in my opinion when talking about the MAL community itself as a whole. Couldn't of said it better my self. Its SO true. But i still love MAL, its like my home. But i have seen other forums that have a much higher fanbase to shounens. It is a shame such a great series suffers so much abuse from fans that just hate on it due to being over rated or popular. Reminds of FInal fantasy VII, great game, amazing characters, awesome story line, fantastic orchestra's but yet so many fans hate on it, and for what reason? Simply put, its just to popular and to mainstream. |
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| i don't hate it because it's mainstream it's simply stupid although it started very well and had great charm to it, but for a while now the story got plainly retarded :/ |
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| I think people just hate it because of the fandom. Like you go to an animecon and see overweight neckbeards and 6-year-old kids dressed up as Naruto and you suddenly don't feel like being a part of Naruto fans. Honestly I think the story has made a better turn in the last year and is becoming better and better with every chapter. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if you compare it to other shounens like Bleach or One Piece then Naruto has a pretty decent spot among them. |
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| Since I've got nothing better to do renairenairenai said: Because... 1. The main protagonist was a self-proclaimed loner, weakling, crybaby, hokage-wanna-be who was hated by everyone. And now, look at him!!! The strongest goku-wanna-be, overpowered cockroach (that can't be killed with 100 nuclear bombs), and also don't forget that he's loved by everyone now. Naruto wasn't a "self-proclaimed" loner, that was a fact. Being a hokage wanna be, I'm pretty sure you've had dreams as a kid his age. Don't hate him for keeping on to his dream because you couldn't. Most of his battles post-Shippuden has been won by his wits, not through asspulls. Most of Goku's wins in post-DBZ were won through cliched power-ups and asspulls. Him being loved by everyone now, that's called character development. Goku was a no one, but all of a sudden he was one of the best fighters of the universe: same story. renairenairenai said: 2. The author can't summon dragon balls in this show, so he has to be very careful when he decides who is going to die!! Indeed and how many people has died so far? A lot, which says quite a bit about how gutsy Kishimoto is. One Piece and Bleach has barely killed 2. renairenairenai said: 3. The author KILLED JIRAIYA-sama!!. Invalid point. This was one of the turning points for Naruto, a part that was revered as a very good part by many fans. renairenairenai said: 4. PAPA... PAPAPA... RARAPAA..... Bring back Jiraiya sensei back to life!!! Nope.. still can't summon dragon balls. This is not DBZ, we don't have asspulls to bring people back to life. If you take something, give something in return. A life for a life. renairenairenai said: 5. The author writes too many side stories to help half of the fans kill to themselves. Examples. I follow this weekly and have yet to see "too many side stories". renairenairenai said: 6. People just hate it when the main protagonist is an overpowered cockroach. Ok.. ok.. Akira Toriyama did it in his manga but the main protagonist died more than once. And more importantly, there were times when the others were stronger than Goku. So the conclusion is that Goku is not an overpowered cockroach. Goku is an overpowered cockroach and killing him off and bringing him back like it's nothing is called an asspull. Learn some English. Secondly, Naruto has been constantly weaker than Sasuke in the story and only recently has it been implied that he is stronger than Sasuke. So your point is invalid. renairenairenai said: 7. He's buddy-buddy with the seven tail now. Ok.. ok.. it's not wrong but it doesn't sound right. I mean.. Come on! That monster caused chaos and made Naruto suffer... I got this feeling.. the next thing we're going to see is Naruto & the seven tail having $3x. Do you even read this? It's the Nine-tails, not seven. Kurama was not what made Naruto suffer, it was a naive hopeful act by his father and the prejudiced close-mindedness of Konoha that made him suffer. If you so want to see them have sex go to Gelbooru and search it up. I can even give you a search code that will take you to it, if it exists, that is. Peralisc said: i don't hate it because it's mainstream it's simply stupid although it started very well and had great charm to it, but for a while now the story got plainly retarded :/ "Simply stupid" "Story got plainly retarded". That would make more sense if your favorite manga section didn't have Bleach. ntHai said: Honestly I think the story has made a better turn in the last year and is becoming better and better with every chapter. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if you compare it to other shounens like Bleach or One Piece then Naruto has a pretty decent spot among them. HunterxHunter, not Bleach. Bleach doesn't really deserve to be ranked in the same degree as Naruto, to be honest. The latest arc has been rather horrible and character destroying. ..... I'm still bored. |
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renairenairenai said: yhunata said: .... No matter what you say about it, Naruto still sucks. The last time i read it was years ago, so i don't really care how many tails the seven tail has LOL... *Sigh* I said I was bored and you weren't smart enough to get the hint and start the shitstorm. This is why I hate newbies, they never get the clue. renairenairenai said: Yea, my english sucks but at least i know how to speak in melayu & japanese. I don't see how this matters, but I've got an Oxford approved B grade in English A'Levels, with over 90% in my Speaking and Use of English exams and over 80% in my Reading and Writing exams. Failing my listening exam (my ears are a bit weak) is the only reason I'm not a grade A English user. I can read Arabic, speak Hindhi (India's main language), speak basic Japanese and since we're including our national language, I'm a fluent Dhivehi (Maldive's main language) speaker as well as a reader. 4 beats 2 any day, pal. |
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| I'm not a hater of any anime but i'm not a great Naruto fan too so Ill put it like this: No Naruto isn't a bad anime/manga but its far from being "the best there ever was". I used to like Naruto really much but thats because it had a great potential. Just like me, many people really liked how the series started, it had a good background, good characters and everything was as much "ninja" as possible. The series was much more about the ninja wolrd than about the characters alone (evidenced by the chunin exams). But then the Part II came, and everything became about how Naruto and Sasuke are overpowered and no other character is important. There was only Naruto and Sasuke. Good characters like Rock Lee, Neji and even Kakashi were put aside. Sakura that should be one of the mains was left behind after the first arc. The initial teamwork was replaced with strong jutsu spam and Kyuubi chackra. In my opinion the main protagonist is stupid. He was a vandal because nobody liked him, but he did nothing to change that except trying to get atention the wrong way. Nobody liked Killer B at the start but he never cared about that. He became respected throught hard work. Seens like Yugito (Nibi Jinchuriki) was respected as well. The whole point of Naruto's life is to bring back an idiot that almost killed him twice. Even when he saw how low Sasuke went he kept calling him friend and saying he was going to bring him back against his will. Thats plain stupid in my opinion. If he really cared about Sasuke he would kill him without exitation as that would be the best for him. And the whole point of all of this? A promisse he made to Sakura years ago. Sai himself pointed to Sakura My other point is: the show is no longer about friendship. What did he said to his "friends" against Kakusu? Outta my way I'll defeat him alone. Against Pain? I dont want you to help me. Against Sasuke? If somebody gonna kill Sasuke it must be me. In the war? I'll end this war myself. Where's the friendship in those fights? He refused his friends help. Even Itachi point this out. But the worst thing in the series isnt even in the series itself. Just like many people pointed out, the main problem is how many (im not saying all of them) the fans overhype it so much (just like every other series has). All they do is say that the series are the best there ever was and ignore the bad points. They never look at the many errors in the series and acept happily everthing Kishimot writes no matter how nonsense it may be. As long as Naruto make any good move OP jutsu or say some cool words it's perfect. And what i think it's the worse, if we try to argue with them about it they just deny everything acuse us of haters. And i say this based in things i've seen in this and in other foruns. And while yes, there's really much mainstream and troll hate, yes, there are some points in the series that some people think are unforgivable for such a popular series. P.S.: I'm not english speaker so sorry for any gramar errors. |
yhunata said: renairenairenai said: yhunata said: .... No matter what you say about it, Naruto still sucks. The last time i read it was years ago, so i don't really care how many tails the seven tail has LOL... *Sigh* I said I was bored and you weren't smart enough to get the hint and start the shitstorm. This is why I hate newbies, they never get the clue. renairenairenai said: Yea, my english sucks but at least i know how to speak in melayu & japanese. Horrible. I don't see how this matters, but I've got an Oxford approved B grade in English A'Levels, with over 90% in my Speaking and Use of English exams and over 80% in my Reading and Writing exams. Failing my listening exam (my ears are a bit weak) is the only reason I'm not a grade A English user. I can read Arabic, speak Hindhi (India's main language), speak basic Japanese and since we're including our national language, I'm a fluent Dhivehi (Maldive's main language) speaker as well as a reader. 4 beats 2 any day, pal. |
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| Because people need a Norm to hate or a community couldn't exist, if something is over loved it is deemed as fan base and yes it is true but it doesn't mean it is a shit Anime just Mainstream there is nothing wrong with mainstream if it is good mainstream. But the art on naruto has disappointed me the last arc so far and then it started improving again about 2 episodes ago. I think it is quite a art to be able to create such a long running series. Because Naruto has a solid story, even though it has the cliche' shonen main character. |
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