| Fine, I'm too sleepy to keep thinking, I'm going to bed. Good night everyone! |
| Oh my God. The SK died? On first night? |
Zurel said: Oh my God. The SK died? On first night? Yis. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I thought you could have died Lucian. You seemed popular among mafia? |
| A few pages back, I think, Miki was baiting the mafia again. Hadn't he been doing that in the other game too? He can't be jester all the time... Oh, wait. I once asked if the jester would die if killed by mafia and not town, and others also had asked whether we could keep playing should the jester die (the same question as Grave's - or maybe it was Grave who asked during the earlier part of the game, sorry can't remember). What if host hasn't missed our question? What if he purposely keeps it unanswered, because that's where the twist lies? Sometimes it's not what is said that's important, but what is left unsaid. |
Zurel said: I thought you could have died Lucian. You seemed popular among mafia? I get killed a lot. A lot |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| It has to be the avatar Lucian. Hmm... Must be the avatar. |
Zurel said: It has to be the avatar Lucian. Hmm... Must be the avatar. Man, nobody has ever seen Sherlock Hound? That show made my childhood. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I know it is Sherlock Hound. But I only have heard of it, never watched it. When I was a boy, son, I didn't even know who Sherlock was. |
| I'm glad it worked. Also, Lucian always dies. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
xanic said: I'm glad it worked. Also, Lucian always dies. ^It's true, I can't help myself. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
xanic said: I'm glad it worked. What did? |
Zurel said: xanic said: I'm glad it worked. What did? Using this as my basis, I deem Zurel suspicious. vote:zurel |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Someone called me? |
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xanic said: Zurel said: What did? Using this as my basis, I deem Zurel suspicious. vote:zurel See what I said about weird votes? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
xanic said: Zurel said: What did? Using this as my basis, I deem Zurel suspicious. vote:zurel Hah? Why?? |
Karrote said: Someone called me? Grave did. She wanted your opinion, said you too quiet. |
| Who here thinks Grave is mafia? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Who thinks that grave isn't mafia? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Who thinks that grave isn't mafia? Me. |
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Karrote said: LucianRoy said: Who thinks that grave isn't mafia? Me. Alright, that seems fair. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I think I have figured out her role, unless she's playing with us.. What do you think, Lucian? Is she mafia or not? Do you think her hinting to Reindeer or Elf is legit? |
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Zymf said: We shouldn't use RNG. Instead of giving all of the responsibility to RNG, we should stand by our choice and take the responsibility it takes to vote on someone. I'll vote for x_at_home. I don't know about his role/allignment and it is therefore also a "random lynch", though I am still the one who choose him and I should therefore be held responsible for his death whether he turns out to be innocent or guilty. Lynch: x_at_home (This is the proper way to play mafia imo) In the past four games I've played in, I've lead, or helped, with a successful lynch in all of them on Day 1. Even today, in the TG game, I had thirty minutes to lynch someone after a day with zero votes, and the person that ended up getting lynched was the leader of the mafia. It's a tricky way to play, but sometimes it really pays off. It creates a lot of doubt, and maybe it's luck, but it certainly works... somehow. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Karrote said: I think I have figured out her role, unless she's playing with us.. What do you think, Lucian? Is she mafia or not? Do you think her hinting to Reindeer or Elf is legit? I really don't like hints. There are always two possible scenarios, that usually lead to two possible answers. The first scenario is that the hint's legit, and she's telling the truth, the second is that she planted them there in order to lie and cause confusion for people like us, which is usually a scum-tell. I need to read the entire thread again, analyze each post from Grave, and determine what's up. My only question is that is she was actually elf, then why would she hint? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I think she isn't mafia. I believe her claim. Why? Because I always do. I believed her claim in the current Phantom mafia game too. Yeah, it sounds naive... |
ZurelDec 30, 2014 7:07 PM
| Grave was about to get lynched on the first day, by a bandwagon vote started by Neon. To plea to town, she practically claimed her role to show how serious she was, and that town would regret it if she died. Since she asked for doctor's protection, we could rule out doctor. That left us with Elf and Reindeer. |
LucianRoy said: My only question is that is she was actually elf, then why would she hint? I might know answer to that question but: grave_robber said: Having said that, I would like to declare that I'm not santa, I've been hinting at my role for several phases already so those who know, shush for a little while. |
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| And where the heck is that Xanic? Lucian, is Xanic really Zawolf, the one who trolled in LoveandHate91's game and caused town to lose? |
Zurel said: Grave was about to get lynched on the first day, by a bandwagon vote started by Neon. To plea to town, she practically claimed her role to show how serious she was, and that town would regret it if she died. Since she asked for doctor's protection, we could rule out doctor. That left us with Elf and Reindeer. Ya never know. Reading into this might get strange, so I'll leave it alone for now. If you think Grave is town then that's fine. We'll leave it up to an investigative role to determine her alignment, but first we need an actual working investigative role. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Zurel said: And where the heck is that Xanic? Lucian, is Xanic really Zawolf, the one who trolled in LoveandHate91's game and caused town to lose? You know, I do have a life. I voted for you because I said the words to get someone to ask about them. I believed that the person who asked about them was mafia, thus I voted on you. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Zurel said: And where the heck is that Xanic? Lucian, is Xanic really Zawolf, the one who trolled in LoveandHate91's game and caused town to lose? Yes, he is. I still sense troll even though he repented trolling for that game. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
xanic said: Zurel said: And where the heck is that Xanic? Lucian, is Xanic really Zawolf, the one who trolled in LoveandHate91's game and caused town to lose? You know, I do have a life. I voted for you because I said the words to get someone to ask about them. I believed that the person who asked about them was mafia, thus I voted on you. See, when I pull stuff like this, it ties into a series of questions that all have reasoning behind them, (for the most part), but when it comes out of the blue, it's just weird. For instance, I asked someone in the TG game today to make the lynch, the chose a bad person, we ended up lynching them because I said their choice was bad, and we hit the lead maf role, but I think that's different then this question. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| What is TG game Lucian? It's not any Mafia Society game, right? How can you be sure a mafia will read and reply you, Xanic? This is not the peak hour here, so your question can easily be missed and ignored later. |
Zurel said: What is TG game Lucian? It's not any Mafia Society game, right? How can you be sure a mafia will read and reply you, Xanic? This is not the peak hour here, so your question can easily be missed and ignored later. Oh, sorry, it's a forum game being hosted by Red Tie. It's the third Tokyo Ghoul game. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Oooh. I want to poke my head there for a while. |
| I go sleep, feels weird going to sleep when night is almost over, lol. |
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| Been meaning to ask. Who's on that new avatar of yours? Also, the sig's link is wrong since it says Karote. |
Zurel said: Been meaning to ask. Who's on that new avatar of yours? Also, the sig's link is wrong since it says Karote. He just changed it. It used to be Karote, until he added an extra "r" a couple days ago. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Zurel said: What is TG game Lucian? It's not any Mafia Society game, right? How can you be sure a mafia will read and reply you, Xanic? This is not the peak hour here, so your question can easily be missed and ignored later. I can't be. But I was trying. -_- @Lucian, you feel condescending. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Lucian, you sure like trivia xD |
| I have nothing to report at the moment. |
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| It always seems xanic always acts scummy or is it just the way they type. vote: xanic they get my first ever lynch vote in this club. I'll be more active in the next day unless if I dies tonight. |
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| Pros of santas outing: You get your result out no problem with the possiblity of sorting out who is who. The problem though: Cons of santas outing: There WILL BE ccs and fake reports. I'm gonna say this club is experienced enough to know this. Mafs always ccs the role that has the most quantity. This is a good way for them to confuse town. Jester will also try to confuse to get themself lynched. The other important role will be outted. <--- this is important. You want just investigative santas to be alive? Well guess what this is gonna be a mess. Mafias will not kill the investigative santas, they will target the other players that has the possibility of being the lookout, the doctor and the vigilante. --------------- Santa keep enough reports and don't out early. Out mid game. This is the best play. Outing early you are santa will not result in anything but more confusion. Outing mid game ensure that the santa that gets only nice with all the report and naughty with all their report can choose NOT to claim since it is 100% sure they are useless. grave_robber said: If we can go on playing after the jester is lynched then we could do zymf's plan. The jester claims their role, all santas check them, the next day we lynch the jester and they win. We'll know which santa's which. Hey Jester, What do you think of this proposition? You get a free win, just claim and let us lynch you tomorrow(day 3 I mean). I mean yeah, what makes the mafia not able to make any fake reports. It's a pretty good proposition but with major flaws. These are what I just thought. I'm out tonight. |
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Mikiuza said: It always seems xanic always acts scummy or is it just the way they type. vote: xanic they get my first ever lynch vote in this club. I'll be more active in the next day unless if I dies tonight. Just the way I type. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
xanic said: Mikiuza said: It always seems xanic always acts scummy or is it just the way they type. vote: xanic they get my first ever lynch vote in this club. I'll be more active in the next day unless if I dies tonight. Just the way I type. Which, is actually an extension of my personality. I despise humanity. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I thought you would see it Lucian, why L&H died, but it seems like you missed it and you still doubt me. If you're so sure I'm naughty, lynch me and make your very first bad lynch, it'll be so bad it could cost the town its win. Like I said, the mafia's hit failed on night 1 for one of the following reasons: 1. They didn't send in their action (doubt it). 2. The doctor protected the right target last night. 3. They targeted L&H too. ** There's no town roleblocker, so they couldn't have been blocked I too think xanic's always acting weird but I don't want to vote for him just yet, even though his vote for Zuu is unfounded. |
| I believe number two is what occurred, grave. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Mikiuza said: The other important role will be outted. <--- this is important. You want just investigative santas to be alive? Well guess what this is gonna be a mess. Mafias will not kill the investigative santas, they will target the other players that has the possibility of being the lookout, the doctor and the vigilante. The bad guys already know who's nice, they have a 1 in 7 chance of killing the doctor/vig, those are pretty good odds, not to mention that several people have claimed/hinted already so they chances are even better now! They don't santas to out anyone, all they have to do is kill someone every night, soon enough the doc or vig will die (there's only 7 townies left). --------------- Santa keep enough reports and don't out early. Out mid game. This is the best play. Outing early you are santa will not result in anything but more confusion. Outing mid game ensure that the santa that gets only nice with all the report and naughty with all their report can choose NOT to claim since it is 100% sure they are useless. On day 1, I too believed that zymf's suggestion would only cause chaos and confuse the town while the bad guys killed everyone. Which is why I'm still a little suspicious of him tb, but @ the end of the day, we need to find all anti-town players and eliminate them, the vig only has 2 shots and we can't be sure they'll get them right. Lucian's good at catching bad guys but that's not enough either (especially since he's acting less aggressive this game, it makes me suspect him). grave_robber said: If we can go on playing after the jester is lynched then we could do zymf's plan. The jester claims their role, all santas check them, the next day we lynch the jester and they win. We'll know which santa's which. Hey Jester, What do you think of this proposition? You get a free win, just claim and let us lynch you tomorrow(day 3 I mean). I mean yeah, what makes the mafia not able to make any fake reports. It's a pretty good proposition but with major flaws. Yes, fake reports are annoying but we will at least know 1 or 2 of the real santas who claimed You make some interesting point Miki!Perhaps the santas will wait till day 3 to come out of hiding, but you gotta remember that doing so gives the bad guys more time to fake it. |
Mikiuza said: This isn't a Con? It is a pro! We WANT the mafia to claim a role they don't have! If 2 people claim to be the same role, then we know that 1 of them is lying and all we then have to do is find out which one. There are 5 santas and therefore the mafia will most likely claim to be a Santa rather than one of the other roles. That is one of the reasons why I wanted the Santas to claim their role allready yesterday!Cons of santas outing: There WILL BE ccs and fake reports. I'm gonna say this club is experienced enough to know this. Mafs always ccs the role that has the most quantity. This is a good way for them to confuse town. Jester will also try to confuse to get themself lynched. Once more than 4 people have claimed Santa, we know that there is at least 1 liar. Then, based on the results they give, we can start weeding out the mafia even further.. Mikiuza said: Yes, you are right.. this is a problem. But it is not that big a problem, imo. There is both Mrs. Christmas, Elf, Reindeers and the Jester, and therefore the mafia only have a 1/4 chance in hitting their preferred target.The other important role will be outted. <--- this is important. You want just investigative santas to be alive? Well guess what this is gonna be a mess. Mafias will not kill the investigative santas, they will target the other players that has the possibility of being the lookout, the doctor and the vigilante. |
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