| It's an OK show Most of the fanbase is hilariously elitist, though, especially on this site. |
Kaimon said: It's an OK show Most of the fanbase is hilariously elitist, though, especially on this site. Lmao. The NGE fanbase here on MAL is only mild compared to Evageeks' or /a/. |
Ezekiel said: I wouldn't call it over rated. I just don't like it. It's too depressing and unless you look past its exterior, a little generic. Wasnt even depressing tbh. I do think it's a bit overrated, allthough for its time it did pretty good. Kaimon said: It's an OK show Most of the fanbase is hilariously elitist, though, especially on this site. I kind of agree. |
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| The NGE fanbase here on MAL is only mild compared to Evageeks' or /a/. True! I'm also getting theories and ideas on that site. So helpful. |
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| I would rather watch diarrhea falling into a toilet bowl in loop for10 hours at 4k resolution than rewatch NGE. By far the most sickening anime i have ever had the misfortune to watch. Before any feral fans come at me with bs i tell you this: You like this anime so go CHECK yourself. Seriously, you probably need help. |
| I've Watched it 2 years ago and dropped it in ep19 and until this day couldn't understand why it is highly praised |
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| people who like it are the people who related to the mc personally i didnt related to it, the plot was uninteresting for the 12 first ep then i dropped it |
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| Finished this yesterday, and while I can understand the people who would label this as a 'masterpiece', it is overrated. |
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| Even after 20 years nothing tops it in it's themes. Therefore, not overrated. Hell, considering trash like Erased is so high up on the list, it is underrated |
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Hydra0411 said: Even after 20 years nothing tops it in it's themes. Therefore, not overrated. Hell, considering trash like Erased is so high up on the list, it is underrated actually the show seems pretentious when you think about it, it could have explored its themes without all this religious symbolism and philosophical references that make it just more confusing . |
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| I don't care if people think it's overrated or not. I love it and yall can't stop me! |
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bigmustache93 said: actually the show seems pretentious when you think about it, it could have explored its themes without all this religious symbolism and philosophical references that make it just more confusing . The staff themselves said that religious symbolism is there only to look cool. Therefore, the show itself is not pretentious, but those morons who take religious symbolism seriously are. |
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| These days it seems to be trendy to shit on this show anyway, I hardly hear anyone calling it a masterpiece. I liked it though, NGE was quite good and the End of Evangelion is one of my favorites |
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| I'm getting more and more exasperated thinking about it. Especially the fact that Asuka is on the show. I hate her more and more overtime and think that she should just get her butt kicked or something. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
Monad said: well it is just about mecha fights. The directors admitted to this. Everything else is random and makes no real sense.As i said before Evangelion is not about the big mecha fights or even it's philosophical questions and symbolisms. Those are just there to help. It's really about the psychological aspect. Is about making you feel strange feelings, to depress you, confuse you and generally make you a little crazy. Now if you just couldn't really get in to it's world and you were watching with a more carefree attitude, just sitting there and thinking "O my God that Sinji is such a pussy" "That Asuka bitch never shut ups" "O look Rei naked" and staff like that, and you think that those fights with Angels and staff is what it is about, then Evangelion will seem like the biggest piece of crab you ever saw. It's a love or hate anime. If you feel it, you will say it's a masterpiece. If you don't, you will probably say it's shit. But in general there is a reason many people love it. The overrated line could go for every anime that has fans anyway. You can't expect something to be loved by everyone. |
nightcrawlercyp said: Monad said: well it is just about mecha fights. The directors admitted to this. Everything else is random and makes no real sense.As i said before Evangelion is not about the big mecha fights or even it's philosophical questions and symbolisms. Those are just there to help. It's really about the psychological aspect. Is about making you feel strange feelings, to depress you, confuse you and generally make you a little crazy. Now if you just couldn't really get in to it's world and you were watching with a more carefree attitude, just sitting there and thinking "O my God that Sinji is such a pussy" "That Asuka bitch never shut ups" "O look Rei naked" and staff like that, and you think that those fights with Angels and staff is what it is about, then Evangelion will seem like the biggest piece of crab you ever saw. It's a love or hate anime. If you feel it, you will say it's a masterpiece. If you don't, you will probably say it's shit. But in general there is a reason many people love it. The overrated line could go for every anime that has fans anyway. You can't expect something to be loved by everyone. Yeah so they were going out of there way trying to show all those crazy depressing feelings Shinji felt and spending most of the show on them just because they didn't know how to put more mecha fights? Haven't they seen a Gundam anime before? Yeah sorry i ain't buying it. Maybe you confused them with the directors of the new movies. |
Monad said: there are many directors that try to look deep. It is clear Anno had no idea on christian symbolism and did not do his research. You can believe what you want the truth is the story and the symbolism is just random. You can accept it or not. It is up to you. I am not trying to convince you.nightcrawlercyp said: well it is just about mecha fights. The directors admitted to this. Everything else is random and makes no real sense. Yeah so they were going out of there way trying to show all those crazy depressing feelings Shinji felt and spending most of the show on them just because they didn't know how to put more mecha fights? Haven't they seen a Gundam anime before? Yeah sorry i ain't buying it. Maybe you confused them with the directors of the new movies. |
nightcrawlercyp said: Monad said: there are many directors that try to look deep. It is clear Anno had no idea on christian symbolism and did not do his research. You can believe what you want the truth is the story and the symbolism is just random. You can accept it or not. It is up to you. I am not trying to convince you.Yeah so they were going out of there way trying to show all those crazy depressing feelings Shinji felt and spending most of the show on them just because they didn't know how to put more mecha fights? Haven't they seen a Gundam anime before? Yeah sorry i ain't buying it. Maybe you confused them with the directors of the new movies. Obviously you have reading comprehension problems and interpretation problems since you see psychological elements the same as symbolism elements. See my original post you quoted again in this post, i made it a little more clear for your eyes. |
Monad said: the series if full of christian symbolism: crosses, angels, Adam&Eve. The characters did not leave that much of an impression on me. I was unable to care for them. Also the director is the one that says this simply a mecha series. But let's just leave it at different opinions. The only reason I hate the series is the mindfuck ending. And no the extra two episodes do not really fix all the damage.nightcrawlercyp said: there are many directors that try to look deep. It is clear Anno had no idea on christian symbolism and did not do his research. You can believe what you want the truth is the story and the symbolism is just random. You can accept it or not. It is up to you. I am not trying to convince you. Obviously you have reading comprehension problems and interpretation problems since you see psychological elements the same as symbolism elements. See my original post you quoted again in this post, i made it a little more clear for your eyes. |
| Another anime over muh fav > it is overrated |
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| I thought the religious aspect is kinda heavy-handed, but the psychological element is good. The depressing atmosphere of the story was well-done. Shinji was annoying but in a good way since it added to the realism of his character. Bonus points for treading new grounds in the mecha genre. On the other hand, End of Evangelion was a pretentious mess. I get that they were trying to shoot for the biblical rebirth and Adam and Eve kinda thing, but the film was just too abstract for its own good. It felt like the script came out half-finished. Still, it's at least a better finale than the last two bizarre episodes of the main series. |
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| It was hard to rate for me, I was close to giving it a 6 (tolerable for me). It did a really back job at explaining things I still don't understand why they wanted the 3rd impact to happen. They also repeated stuff way to much like we get Shinji and the other characters feeling, no need to explain them 3 times over. Lastly the pacing/time management was really bad it took way to long to get to the main purpose of the show. Why take so much time on killing each angel? |
| Well each person is different, to me its Underrated on MAL, it surely deserves to be in the Top 100. |
| It's overrated but that doesn't mean the same thing as it's a bad show. They likely only went overboard on the surreal and deep moments because Gainax was running out of money and they needed to do something else, and probably would have ended up like Gunbuster if Gainax didn't have budget problems towards the end. |
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JanusVonMaria said: puzzlemaster said: i have never heard of any of your examples so that doesn't really help. but i am definitly in one of those people that like complex and psychological stories, but this was just simply badly executed. i love when i watch an anime and when i finish it i still don't understand half of the story, but that only applies to the animes that actually explained stuff but it was to complex so when i rewatch it later i understand but evangelion simply didn't show the answers, just threw a bunch of questions out and hoped that the fans could make take some minimal hints and make an awesome story out of it and then they can take the credit. this anime forces you to speculated as to what is really going on while a good anime explains everything but you still may not understand the first time but the answer are all there. it doesn't matter what someone tells me about this anime or how much they try to explain the story, i was extremly disappointed by this anime. Like half of the people I know answered like you. On my part, I managed to understand like half of what I explained on the second time I watched Evangelion (first time I was like 5-6 so its obviously impossible to understand anything for me at that time). If you like those psychological animes then watch the series I wrote before, those series don't explain everything like Evangelion, but at least they are way more understandable. Wow. That is super young to be watching the show, but oaaaakay.O_O |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| Are you trying to pick a fight with me, OP? |
 "The sun is my enemy, but the moon has been good to me." |
| No, in fact Evangelion is underrated if it does not have a perfect 10.00 score on this site, all of your who dislike it are subjectively, objectively, and projector-ly wrong. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| My friends got me to watch this and it was really really great until episode 23. The last three episodes were so boring they made me fall asleep on all three. All three of them preach the exact same theme. At the end you're left with nothing. You don't know what happens to all the characters. You don't know what happened at 2nd impact or Shinji's mother. You don't know if the Angels get defeated or where they come from. This show really was a let down because of all the hype behind it. DO NOT...I repeat...DO NOT tell people this is a masterpiece. Most people will be let down. Just tell them you enjoyed it and they should watch it. The character building and premise were extremely enticing, but with that ending it doesn't leave me with, "This anime is brilliant." A bad taste is in my mouth after pushing through those last three episodes. KYS Shinji. |
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theonlybub said: My friends got me to watch this and it was really really great until episode 23. The last three episodes were so boring they made me fall asleep on all three. All three of them preach the exact same theme. At the end you're left with nothing. You don't know what happens to all the characters. You don't know what happened at 2nd impact or Shinji's mother. You don't know if the Angels get defeated or where they come from. This show really was a let down because of all the hype behind it. DO NOT...I repeat...DO NOT tell people this is a masterpiece. Most people will be let down. Just tell them you enjoyed it and they should watch it. The character building and premise were extremely enticing, but with that ending it doesn't leave me with, "This anime is brilliant." A bad taste is in my mouth after pushing through those last three episodes. KYS Shinji. That would be too sad if Shinji killed himself. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| @puzzlemaster @theonlybub We have two clear elements in the series to get the actual answer to "What happened to Ikari Yui?" - during the episode about the Nerv's foundation (with Fuyutsuki as the narrator), we see a scene where a very young Shinji is brought in the observatory room while his mother starts an experience (who should be "the dawn of a new world" if I remember her words). The experience is said to have been a failure, causing Yui's death/disappearance. - later, Shinji remembers he had already meet "his" EVA: we get the same picture of him staring at his mother through the glass. =› the experience was using the Unit 1. - in the episode following Shinji's 400% synchronization with his "robot" (you know, the eating berserk scene), Ritsuko answer to Mitsuko that the process to retrieve someone dissolved in L.C.L has already been established (by her mother among others, if my memory is good). However, the rescue experience was a failure at that time. + if Shinji wasn't retrieved fast enough, his elements woud have ended up in the evangelion's core. As you can read, the show actually gives you the informations in this case. I won't insult your name of "puzzle master" by doing the maths here. I also admit several things stay unanswered, but this one does not. - bonus: during another episode, Akagi Naoko (Ritsuko's mother and former NERV scientist and former Gendô's mistress) references Yui's "accident" by stating her rival "died according to her desires". Here we enter the speculative omain: this could mean that the mad woman either prevents a smooth recuperation (what I suppose) or took measures earlier by "hijacking" the Evangelion-1 activation test. @puzzlemaster, about your other points: no, nobody forces Shinji to pilot. The matter is even addressed in several episodes. At first, Gendô shows him he will use Rei as ersatz. This leads him to take actions. Later, he obviously seeks his father's approval by doing what Gendô "needs" him for. Of course, this doesn't bring any conclusive rapprochement between the son and his father. Sometimes in the beginning, there is the "I don't want to do it but people I know will directly suffer from my refusal since I'm the only one who can do it." reason (like Amuro, the first problematic teenager pilot, in the historical Gundam). At a moment, Shinji even uses the piloting as a way to prove himself (much like Asuka keeps doing during 90% of the series). In other words, people's expectations, his wish for a satisfying fatherly relationship, his lack of self-esteem are among the things who pressure him into piloting. Nagisa Kaworu, the final Angel, didn't take human form on hiw own, He was engineered by the Seele using Adam's soul and sended to Gendô (who owned Adam's regenerated embryon thanks to Kaji) as a poisoned gift, he didn't attack Earth but was sended to "attack" specifically Nerv's headquarters or rather to reunite with Adam (who happenned to be Lillith, to his surprise). They wanted to be the ones controlling the outcome of the Third Impact while Gendô was trying to play them (since a long time) to become one with his wife. The Seele's president even formulates their wish to get rid of the Angels in order to achieve their vision of the Third Impact, thus implying they fooled him to send him to his death (I think they even went to the point of saying to him that Angels were the true heirs of the Earth in their eyes too). He realized the fishy thing but still decided to die from Shinji's hands at the end. Since Rei III declares he is like her, we can suppose he was made out of either Adam or Lillith. Other later elements made his nature more clear: Seele members point out his soul's origin and even say that the commandant Ikari has Adam's body in his possession. I must say I had to rewatch the series before I got it all, but I'm sure some others had no difficulty here. The shift into psychological drama started way before the 25th episode. It became entirely psychology-centric at the end to cover the lack of funds, You can see the (theoretically) intended conclusion in the theatrical version of Episodes 25-26 called The end of Evangelion here. It is very well done and tries to make the final events more physical (less inside psyche scenes), I won't say more because I disliked the form it took. But I personally think it was more a way to appease/appeal to the hysterical part of the audience who was manifesting his deep anger about the TV finale. By the way, I found the TV conclusion very good: it was simply accentuating the focus the series had since a while by rejecting everything else, gave a satisfying conclusion to the hero's growth and was a well done exercise (being able to craft an effective conclusion with no funds left, while trying to express the main ideas of the intended End). I must confess that I was moved by the final scenes: I had tears in the eyes for my first time in animation during Shinji's realisation (when the great piano version of the opening kicks in) and the auto-congratulations (I was fourteen). This part was in no way a reunion, it was entirely in Shinji's mind, the people being parts of himself reflecting about his rejection of the outside. I could add more but my stylus is all sweaty and typing long texts on a 3DS is slightly exhausting. So, you will excuse me. @RainyRai I am starting to like your interventions. It counterbalances the stupid comments. |
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Tanuiglor said: Yes, I do believe NGE is overrated, but don't get me wrong I still found it to be a wonderful show. A lot of the hype comes from the community over analyzing the show. At least from my perspective, it would seem that many people get caught up on the angels & crosses and look at it through the sense of Christian symbolism. Rather I find NGE to run along very well with the Kabbalah creation tale. People have also gone as far as to connect characters to the ten sephirots of Kabbalah and over analyze that as well. I mean that's all fine and well but have they heard of archetypes? It it the same basic principle but rather than the cleric and adventurer, you have kindness and wisdom. All in all NGE is a great show but not deserving of the godly status it has been given. I myself use to hold it to such regards. I honestly haven't seen all the intense christian symbolism analysis that is brought up all the time, but that wasn't even the main draw to Evangelion, it was it's main message and it's amazingly written characters. Rei366 said: @RainyRai I am starting to like your interventions. It counterbalances the stupid comments. I try my best to act retarded in a contrary way. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| It's only overrated on /a/, there if you say less than godly-things about NGE you will get somebody complaining that you just didn't like it because it was "2smart4u" and that "u r a moefag who's afraid of intellectualism in anime xddd". I thought the series was OK, and the End of Evangelion movie was better as it brought a better sense of closure to the series. |
| It's as if though you guys watched it for the wrong reasons. Can't say that I blame you, the mythos are pretty damn interesting. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| If you're a dumbass it won't make any sense and you will hate it |
_Hikari-Kun_ said: from someone who gave SAO an 8 your argument is pretty invalid mateJust finished the series. Imo this show was overated and I give the anime a 7/10 and with the movie a 7.5/10. It was decent. Definetly overated. |
| *Sorry for possible engrish* I'm quite new in anime industry, and as you can see, I've not watched much. I began last year, with NGE. (I had already seen some shows, but never started to follow this world in a serious way). So, thanks to this series, now I have a huge passion, and I think I'll love NGE forever. It's not perfect. It's not. But I consider NGE a masterpiece because it has problems. The series was supposed to last 30+ episodes, lol. But 90s Gainax is 90s Gainax, and Anno is a depressed writer who decided to put all he got in his work. There are so many rumours, false rumours. They even come from fans, and I hate that. "last two episodes are like that because no budget" "movie was made because angry fans" "religion is one of the main aspects of the series" "Anno said he didn't like series finale"... I love NGE because it's a story about a boy, from first to last (expecially last) episode. The world around him is not important. We've seen many times that concept. The world is in danger. Let's call a teenager to save everyone. Nope. Now the teenager must save himself. Episodes 25 and 26 are my favourite part of the franchise, 'cause instead of trying to write a narrative end in an extremely short time (they had 3 days to complete 26, for example), Anno decided to end Shinji's travel. In a way I love. I rewatched those two episodes like 10 times, and I can't understand the hate. The music, the script, the characters, the directing. That was the point of the series. Not the sci-fi setting. But still, it wasn't a conventional ending. And there were many elements left ignored. So, one year after that controversial ending, they did a recap, and Death is the best recap I've ever seen. Rebirth is now useless, but I can imagine what people felt, back in march '97. And some months after, here it is EoE. That movie. Oh my god. As I'm not too much in anime, I'm not too much in cinema. But Kubrick, Lynch, Scorsese, Scott, Refn, Aronofsky, Kurasawa, Leone, I knew some of them. Great artists. And as much I love their masterpieces, I consider The End of Evangelion the greatest feature film I've ever watched. Now you could say that I'm a stupid fanboy, and you may surely be right... Is NGE overrated? Well, after watching the "top anime" list, maybe it is underrated. It's not even in top 100 lol |
| this anime is the most pretentious garbage i've ever watched,it is trying so hard to be deep and philosophical while i couldn't take it seriously at all,many plotholes ,pathetic and miserable characters that didn't deserve any attention or sympathy,only people who like watching kids get tortured mentally and physically would enjoy this, actually NGE played an important role in turning anime to what it is today, it popularized beta male characters,moe and tsundere shit,before NGE anime was edgy,after NGE anime became edgier and pretentious. |
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