The Empty Box and Zeroth Maria (light novel)
TatenashiKaichou said: I actually don't think it's a good idea to animate this novel no matter how much of a masterpiece it is. I don't think any studio is going to be able to animate Rejecting Classroom properly with all those time-loop jumps. maybe SHAFT, but either way this would be way to hard to animate properly in my opinion. IMO time-loops in Hakomari are, more or less, similar to Steins;Gate. Maybe certain loops that only have random thoughts or scenes inside could be presented ala Monogatari. And yeah i think SHAFT or Whitefox are the only proper studios for this. |
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| ^I agree with that. Though I think the real problem to animate this novel is the inner thoughts of the characters, but it still would be amazing at least one or more movies/series, even if it wouldn't be perfectly adapted. I would sure love that. |
| Where can I read this novel??? |
anima98 said: Google Baka-Tsuki.Where can I read this novel? |
 There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.  Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| I think it'll get an adaptation after it's finished publishing. I think it's a decent ln, story is pretty good, but conversations tend to be really meaningless and boring. My favorite character was Kamiuchi, but he was strangled by my second favorite character, Daiya, what a shame. |
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| it seems that the fake votes got banned, and the rating sky rocketed @@ |
| WOW it jumped to rank 2! |
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| those troll accounts finally got banned, thanks based MAL mods! |
TatenashiKaichou said: those troll accounts finally got banned, thanks based MAL mods! Here's the best part: They haven't finished banning all of them, so there's a chance the score will rise even more. Just what this novel deserves. |
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Botato said: TatenashiKaichou said: those troll accounts finally got banned, thanks based MAL mods! Here's the best part: They haven't finished banning all of them, so there's a chance the score will rise even more. Just what this novel deserves. Waiting for Hakomari to be #1 |
TatenashiKaichou said: those troll accounts finally got banned, thanks based MAL mods! That's awesome news. Didn't expect that anymore. Ranked 2nd now. And completely deserved. Hopefully that will motivate even more people to give it a shot. |
| Maria had a little lamb, His fleece was white as snow, And everywhere that Maria went, The lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school one day, Which was against the rule, It made the children laugh and play To see a lamb at school. And so the teacher turned it out, But still it lingered near, And waited patiently about, Till Maria did appear. "Why does the lamb love Maria so?" The eager children cry. "Why, Maria loves the lamb, you know." The teacher did reply. - Ode to Kazuki |
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| Since I couldn't find a place to ask Hakomari related questions, I've come here. In the first novel Daiya is class president, but in the second it's Miyazaki. What's up with that? (I only recently found Hakomari and am now starting the 5th novel. How come so few people know about this? This is absolute gold!) |
nicolasf said: Read it. Don't you dare to not read it. You must know my suffering.axeshizzle said: Since I couldn't find a place to ask Hakomari related questions, I've come here. In the first novel Daiya is class president, but in the second it's Miyazaki. What's up with that? (I only recently found Hakomari and am now starting the 5th novel. How come so few people know about this? This is absolute gold!) That was different classes, 1st and 2nd =) AND DONT READ 5th VOLUME UNTIL 7th IS PUBLISHED!!11 xD |
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axeshizzle said: In the first novel Daiya is class president, but in the second it's Miyazaki. What's up with that? graduated |
| Beta never gives up Never hide, Never be discouraged Never accept friendzone |
| 0h, don't you worry, it's just the same sad old troll. Read it's other "reviews": it's no different, it's always get it downvoted. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| WHAT THE FUCK!? (I've just finished the 6th novel) Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria is amazing but FUCK THE WRITER for leaving me hanging like this. I bet I this will leave me up tonight. (I'm gonna read Hakomari again..) I don't care that I can't read Japanese, I'm buying these novels! Hakomari is so good it HAS to be on my shelf. |
axeshizzleJul 15, 2014 5:19 AM
silmaril said: nicolasf said: Read it. Don't you dare to not read it. You must know my suffering.That was different classes, 1st and 2nd =) AND DONT READ 5th VOLUME UNTIL 7th IS PUBLISHED!!11 xD oh I'm suffering alright. |
axeshizzle said: silmaril said: Read it. Don't you dare to not read it. You must know my suffering. oh I'm suffering alright. I feel you... One can just hope volume 7 will come out before the year ends. |
TatenashiKaichou said: I feel you... One can just hope volume 7 will come out before the year ends. Yeah but we´d still have to wait for it to be translated. (I do at least.) |
| axeshizzle, for the love of G-d Eiji Mikage, use "Spoiler" tag! See, it's like this: axeshizzle said: Please, use the "Edit" link on you post.WHAT THE FUCK!? (I've just finished the 6th novel) when the fuck is the next novel coming out!? honestly during this novel and the previous one, I was rooting for Daiya and not for Kazuki. EVERYTHING'S FUCKED Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria is amazing but FUCK THE WRITER for leaving me hanging like this. I bet I this will leave me up tonight. (I'm gonna read Hakomari again..) I don't care that I can't read Japanese, I'm buying these novels! Hakomari is so good it HAS to be on my shelf. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: axeshizzle, for the love of G-d Eiji Mikage, use "Spoiler" tag! See, it's like this: I wanted to but didn't know how. anyways I changed it. |
axeshizzle said: You've got that "BBCode" link (opens in new window) under your "Quick Reply" form.I wanted to but didn't know how. anyways I changed it. Thanks. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| any news about volume 7 yet? |
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nicolasf said: Takiya_lelouchi said: any news about volume 7 yet? 2nd volume of "Bokura wa Mahou Shoujo no Naka" will come 10th November, the next book will be vol7, so we can wait til May 2015 =D oh great to know that ^^ i cant wait for this masterpiece release ^^ P.S Hope Eusth will translate F rank too ^^ |
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| Because Japanese people in general has mediocre tastes. Just like the rest of the world. It's like askin' "Why Kara no Kyoukai wasn't popular until Nasu remake it as Tsukihime?" |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
UnknownSpecies said: Because the time between releases is too freaking long people probably lose interest or something.I'm just curious why does this light novel don't rank in Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi even tho its published in Denkigai Bunko and is an Amazing read? That would've boosted its Sales and Popularity leading to VN/Anime adaptations. |
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| The 7th volume is the last volume right? I'm starting to forget stuff, it's been so long since I read volume 6. But, I will re read before volume 7 comes out anyway. |
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Cheeeeeeese said: Yes.The 7th volume is the last volume right? It was stated to be 40% complete a while back. |
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| While waiting for the almost finished vol 7, I'll bump this thread a bit. So, any news about what Eiji Mikage? Does he have any plan after HakoMari ends? Did other novel successfully make him a bit more poprar or his works are still as niche as always? |
| Last I checked he said something about taking a break from writing light novels after finishing Hakomari, although he also mentioned that he might continue working on F-Rank depending on the readers' reaction. Also, apparently he's on vacation in Hawaii... |
| I hope the vacation serves as a refreshing trip rather than a relief trip after writing a certain ending lol |
zeroyuki92 said: I hope the vacation serves as a refreshing trip rather than a relief trip after writing a certain ending lol Or that vacation might be his get away from angry Fans once they read Vol 7 mindf**kery ;D |
| Not sure if the fans would be angry about being mindf*cked since vol 6 is already quite mindf*ked enough so I have no idea what could top that. We don't even have enough things left to be mindf*cked about lol. Honestly I have no idea how he could write this last book, which probably is one of the reason we got long delay between 6 and 7. Brainstorming for this ending would be hellish. |
| WHERE IS MY GODDAMN ANIME ADAPTATION..?? |
| I/we need a summary of the last volumes. It's been a while since I've read them and don't want to miss out anything related to the plot. I guess i'll have to read them again. |
| vol. 7 translation on baka tsuki is out guys, rejoice :) |
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| It's faster than the deadline, so while I was so happy that it's finally released and translated very fast, now I need to pull an allnighter to finish the entire reread from vol 1 (started weeks ago but got stalled at vol 2). Just managed to finish volume 4 and somehow it's even more amazing than what I remembered back then. Starting vol 5 now... |
| The best medium for telling the story of HakoMari would've been a visual novel, not a light novel, in my opinion. After all, a VN can replicate the LN prose and plot structure almost exactly, plus add on all the other benefits of the medium, such as music, visuals, and character voices. I mean, wouldn't it be awesome to actually hear and witness the insanity, with creepy-ass music in the background? :P That being said, time for me to get back into the story as well... I'm like a quarter of the way through Volume 5, and I must say that the translation seems better quality now, I appreciate it. |
LightBladeNovaJul 30, 2015 8:10 AM
| "Beyond the veil of cherry blossom petals blown by the wind - almost like their promised reunion - Feelings pile up with the passage of time: once the torrent of emotions comes rushing down, what is the spectacle that awaits?" |
LightBladeNova said: The best medium for telling the story of Utsuro no Hako would've been a visual novel, not a light novel, in my opinion. After all, a VN can replicate the LN prose and plot structure almost exactly, plus add on all the other benefits of the medium, such as music, visuals, and character voices. I mean, wouldn't it be awesome to actually hear and witness the insanity? :P That being said, time for me to get back into the story as well... I'm like a quarter of the way through Volume 5, and I must say that the translation seems better quality now, I appreciate it. IIRC before writing LN Eiji Mikage indeed was a VN writer. I always felt that his writing was also influenced by that history, especially how he narrate things using atmosphere/emotional perspective. He also apply tropes which I saw more commonly in VN rather than in LN. That said, I want Hakomari VN. Someone should make it :p P.S just finished vol 7 too, amazing experience. Liriya-Kun said: I just finished volumes 1-6 and I enjoyed them immensely :) I just hope Hakomari ends on a happy note... About your prediction, it's funny that |
zeroyuki92Jul 30, 2015 8:15 AM
Drunkeagle said: Do you happen to know what visual novels he's written? I'd be interested in checking them out if a translation happens to exist Apparently, he has written Diorama under a different pen name (Eiji Kage). He is also mentioned in the credits of Hikoukigumo no Mukougawa for his assistance. (Both VNs are by FLAT) |
EusthEnoptEronJul 30, 2015 10:13 AM
TheHollowShrine said: I wouldn't like a HakoMari VN. HakoMari is a very imaginative novel. The choice of words is so unique and it creates this special atmosphere that's really hard to recreate outside of your own imagionation. It stimulates your brain to imagine the smell, the brightness, the shock, etc. And a VN would try - and certainly fail, to capture this feeling it gives off in a couple of CGs. It would only restrain what is otherwise a text full of unlimited potential for your imagination. That's what makes HakoMari such a special novel and why it wouldn't work in any other form, IMO. Also, Diorama sounds really interesting. Has anyone fortunate enough to be fluent in Japanese read it? I doubt you could say for sure it would certainly fail, but I can see your point I suppose. However, like zeroyuki92 said, it seems that Mikage's writing style carried over from VNs to LNs, so I don't see how it'd be impossible for him to recreate, or even improve, the story as a VN. |
| "Beyond the veil of cherry blossom petals blown by the wind - almost like their promised reunion - Feelings pile up with the passage of time: once the torrent of emotions comes rushing down, what is the spectacle that awaits?" |
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