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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- DO NOT READ THE TEXT BELOW IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THE EPISODE YET!!! Well for one thing there are differences with the animation and the manga, 1st there are more sex scenes with Otome like the DP. The little sister part was also extended and they cut out the scene in the manga where Kazuki has come to terms with Otome being a slut and has decided to take care of his pregnant sister instead. They added the bonus (overkill) chapter where he wakes up as if it was a dream, only to find out its real again. My score Animation and Art- Top Notch hopefully will be adapted for different titles Story- Typical NTR scenario with alot of plot holes Characters- A+ for Otome, B- for the little sister and F for the main character as usual Mod Edit: Do not post links to copyrighted material. |
LunaOct 3, 2012 8:44 AM
| A quick skim. Didn't see any incredibly strange or forgotten animations this time... hopefully. /only skimmed real quick. Lol, felt like the author was playing god and trolling with his life. NTRception. |
Paul said: A quick skim. Didn't see any incredibly strange or forgotten animations this time... hopefully. /only skimmed real quick. Lol, felt like the author was playing god and trolling with his life. NTRception. Yeah CARN was never an exceptional writer haha, his art is on a whole different level though. I was able to watch the whole episode without feeling any grief (its when you know you've been totally desensitized to feeling sorry for the stupid MC and what not) so all in all not a bad watch ^^. |
| Before i watched the anime ive read the manga and i dont know why i watched this episode knowing in my heart what was going to happen. Maybe i was hoping to god that they somehow changed the ending. Now i pretty much just want to barf over how fucked up this episode was |
| Eh, not that bad. Not enough grief was generated. Could've been worse (which is of course, better.) By the way, if anyone feels angry watching NTR flicks, then seriously, just stop. What's the point if you're going to take it that seriously and make it that personal? c_ivan13 said: The guy is still stuck in the denial stage, which is quite an amazing feat (or not, since most NTR's male leads are usually quite "slow".)damn i cant believe he didnt do nothing when otome and her daughter came home at the end. i would have made her tell me wherre all the men where, kill em, wait till she gave birth to the other kid, then choke her to death. |
| Seems like you guys who got upset over this aren't bad enough dudes to handle the unholy trinity. |
| Ok™ |
| It has to suck to be that guy. In the epilogue, I would be surprised if a murder suicide did not happen sometime sson... |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| I just imagine that the spineless MC is another pathetic male character... let's say fatso from Accel World or Kirito, and the mindbroken cock-sucking slut is an overhyped female character, let's say Kuroyukihime or Asuna, and this entire episode becomes just the greatest masterpiece I have ever feasted my eyes upon. Laughing at others' despair is truly revitalizing. Zannen desu ne? shiro-kira said: can anyone answer my question please So that mean kazuki and otome did marry right so is it true or is it just a dream ? An if Kazuki an otome married so that mean she still cheating him and let those old guy fuck her So from what I can deduce, there are a number of possibilities. Take your pick. 1. The MC "sealed" off his memory of that incident after being overwhelmed (like a dumbass, might I add). He goes on to marry Otome, only have a dream about the past he sealed up. Unfortunately for him, things don't become happy just by ignoring it, and his pregnant wife ends up having some very "interesting examinations" with all the fat smelly "doctors". And him, like the dumbass he is, decides to go into denial again. 2. He didn't actually experience the scenes in the first part, goes on to marry Otome, and it turns out his dream was just a foreshadowing of what was actually happening. Sucks to be him. 3. Inception sex. Both scenes are merely dreams. He could wake up at any moment now. But yes. Otome is a cheating hoe no matter how you look at it. |
HowTragicOct 10, 2012 2:52 PM
A-Knight said: I find it funny how hentai fans go batshit insane over NTR considering the general nature of hentai. Probably because most hentai watchers are exactly like the pussy NTR "male leads." NTR really teaches a valuable lesson if you're willing to learn from it on why being a doormat nice guy generally makes you a loser in the end. More like NTR don't work because I know damn well I'd never let my chick do some shit like this in the first place. How Dafuq I'm gonna be aroused by some pussy ass mofo getting emotionally tortured? And I ain't no ugly dude so I ain't exactly relating to some fool looking like fucking frankenstein. Some real advice, NTR teaches you why marriage can be stupid (not always though). Don't love these hoes, just fuck em. Porn does that, Hentai wants to add stories and shit to fuck with ya mind. And when is the last time porn had cheating stories? This is 2012, we get a name, age, and a bitch getting fucked. We don't do the stories no more. |
Tenchi_RyuOct 14, 2012 10:53 PM
| This is some fucked up shit yo. |
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
| I guess this doesn't follow the manga. For those who are curious in the manga: -The little sister is raped by a lolicon and because she is rejected by the MC makes a rape hit happen to Otome -Otome gets pregnant from all the sex and delivers the baby(giving the baby the name of the MC) -Little sister gets pregnant by the MC -MC is soulless and "happy watching" Otome deliver |
| the ending was kinda twisted it left a WTF expression on my face but over all this hentai is pretty good |
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| I mad. I can't even enjoy this NTR. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
quadreon said: I hate NTR, I truly do. Just looking at how torn the main character is and how the ending was just a giant bitch slap Same here, this is the first hentai that left me in despair after watching for some reason. I just don't know. I couldn't even masturbate to it. |
anotherweeabooNov 30, 2012 2:14 AM
| Srsly....That was juz damn cruel even the children is not his. When i was watching this i juz wanna beat otome and the other guy up... I don't understand why she even go to those disgusting pig den in the first place and his sister who was once their victim.... |
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| what the fuck you guys actually watch hentai for the story? |
| LMFAOOO! How CREATIVELY TROLOLOLOL That guy's a REAL SUCKER!!! actually enjoyment 8/10, but 10/10 for BEST TROLL HENTAI! |
| A lot of you people are confusing ntr and cheating here. First of all: Tenchi_Ryu said: This is 2012, we get a name, age, and a bitch getting fucked. We don't do the stories no more. To get to the point, if we close the fourth wall behind the hentai content, we can usually see it as a "true" story in it's own realm, and immerse into the plot. While even porn with some story just can't throw aside the fact about being fake. And nowadays mainstream porn threw everything not immediately related to sex out of the window for good. So lets assume we watch hentai at least partially for the plot (story), because it can show real emotions, real love, hate, true cheating and so on within the series realm. Now to the confuse. You can't substitute netorare with adultery. Sometimes the difference shown is subtle but in fact those genres are radically different. Both are about sexual infidelity yet they get to the action through distinctive ways and watch it through particular point of view. Most of time cheating stories involve consensual decisions and tell the story through the cheating party. The victim of cheating may not be shown at all. Then, the infamous NTR, which was specifically created to cause sexual jealousy to the viewer. And it must always screw the story into taking-stealing a girl and turning her into cock-craving whore to bring as much dark emotions to the viewer, as it can possibly do. Because those are raw and very powerful, overwhelming emotions. In that way I think the whole ntr genre is ingenious and unique to japanese h-animemanga. Also, referring to the netorare type A, as classified on vndb, heroine can willingly cheat on the protagonist with another guy and enjoy every second of it. So it seems as if this is a plain cheating, but actual difference is subtle: the heroine still loves and adores MC to no end, it's just that she can only be satisfied sexually by someone else. Stupid? Unrealistic at all? Still it is what it is. And it can induce a lot of sadness and anger through the logic displacement when done right. Second (type B) is most widespread. There we have rape, blackmail, drug usage, etc. to engage the girl into sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying this and it goes downhill from there. Still the heroine may continue to truly love him (just fuck with everybody else) or simply screw with his mind in the end for better justice. Third type is about the protag being somehow immobilized (literally or through other means e.g. watching video) and seeing his girl raped non-consensually from beginning to end. This type differs from classic rape through following traits: there is only the main character's point of view; the girl must remain "stolen" from him forever on, therefore most popular plots here are kidnapping and slavery. bunnyheaven said: - talking to otome and says that he accept her even for what she done and ask to stop doing it, and they move away and live a new beginning I like some NTR because of the bond they establish and i know some people will think it is lame but i liked happy endings and i like this story to have one :) Never I imagined to find such angelic-like person in the ntr discussion threads. To go as far as to forgive her conscious cheating and slapping it right into your face, not only that, but she conceived two children of someone else and hid it - I don't know if it is either insanely stupid or simply godlike. Any way, that would be a really unique ending. Just you think how many STDs the whore would have by now.. |
forveaFeb 5, 2013 4:13 PM
| GOD DAM why did i not read about this anime before, i just so NTR & got a shitty mood & wanted something to cheer me up, first i taught that this is it & then suddenly i got surprised & this time my mood is even crappy'r then before OK if this guy keeps quiet he will crack & kill her 1 day cause no1 can last for ever with that torture, i hope they show it in future OVA'S, i wold like him to kill this guy's first, her child will be orphan but free (mom dead), if she stays with mom she will be their slut as well, do u think they care that they FK their own child? no!!! not this perverted freaks!!! |
| end made me really confuses, what was real & what was nightmare? or did he dreamed about past? the past he try'd to forget & forgot? or was it a nightmare & hes sister never FK him or he never had a sister, ending rise's so meany questions. did u notice in EP1 when she met with other guy & he so her, she was looking at him with 1eye, i have a feeling she was asking him to save her cause she was 2much of a coward to save herself, she cold just say no to them, & he is an idiot, i call him that cause what he did was self torture, awry time he got new tape he watched it, for me 1 or 2 wold be enough cause then i know what is in the others |
bunnyheaven said: What i dislike to the ending of ntrs were the Male Main charcter left in despair(though some of it was not) i really like an extension where the MC make an action either to prevent or revenge on the incident he is facing... Hope someone have the same feelings i have... LOL XD though i usually make my own endings on my mind like - the mc hunt down each of the rapers' female relatives and rape them and send DVD copies of him raping them. or - talking to otome and says that he accept her even for what she done and ask to stop doing it, and they move away and live a new beginning I like some NTR because of the bond they establish and i know some people will think it is lame but i liked happy endings and i like this story to have one :) i agree with that part: i really like an extension where the MC make an action either to prevent or revenge on the incident he is facing... Hope someone have the same feelings i have... LOL XD i ton't think moving away helps, she will say she stops but after they move she sends letter to this guys & then they move closer to her & the FK continues, she is all ready their sex slave & she wants them to FK her. i see the story end like this: he buys sleeping gas grenade, then next day he follows her to the place were they do the FKING, then trows in the sleeping grenade, then ties them all up to chair facing each other & when they wake up he starts to cut the dicks off of this guy's who banged her, & he dose it front of her while blaming her, u drove me to this its all ur fault & so on & on, all the chatter & what she sees will brake her cause he will hit her in the stomach & it causes her to loose the baby, but before that he say's cause u have hurt me so much & its not my baby i ton't care its ur punishment, at the beginning i was willing to be father for a strangers kid but not anymore, i can rise 1 strangers child but not 2, latter he threatens the guy's that if u go to the police u will end up in jail as well & as u see if i'm capable of this then think of what can id do when i have nothing to loose anymore, second option, unborn child is hes & he wont hit her, or the other child is hes & he still wont hit her, he finds that out, but how that's for writer to decide :), or 3th option both are hes children, she tells him that this guy's can never make any1 pregnant, when she became pregnant she wanted to know who is the father & decided to test this guy's secretly, take their sperm sample with out them knowing it |
Jeff1244 said: Srsly....That was juz damn cruel even the children is not his. When i was watching this i juz wanna beat otome and the other guy up... I don't understand why she even go to those disgusting pig den in the first place and his sister who was once their victim.... sister was jealous, she confessed that she was jealous, she say'd that she wanted to trade places with her & she also say's she did, but not sure what she meant, maybe she told that sad little story to her to (the same story of rape that she told to brother when he was tied up) & then she felt quilt'y & voluntarily traded places with her out off guild of her friend or she just tricked her say'd something like this later after Otome so hes Cock hard when they were in the city in EP1: i know a guy who can teach u sex & about sex, she seemed to be enough naive to fall for that trap, that what i think about how it happen'd, its a huge plot hole |
TitanAnteus said: A-Knight said: I find it funny how hentai fans go batshit insane over NTR considering the general nature of hentai. Probably because most hentai watchers are exactly like the pussy NTR "male leads." NTR really teaches a valuable lesson if you're willing to learn from it on why being a doormat nice guy generally makes you a loser in the end. No one wants to see the main character fail. It's the character everyone's supposed to empathize with the most. I'll admit I was angrier at MC then I was at Otome for not realizing what his sister was going through. For doing nothing and ignoring everything, and for masterbating to the video of the old dudes with his girl. To me though, I cannot like a show where I HATE every character and that's what NTR is in a nutshell. Otome is a fake slut... she's beautiful though and some people like fake beautiful sluts so I can understand why you might like this. quadreon said: I hate NTR, I truly do. Just looking at how torn the main character is and how the ending was just a giant bitch slap, the only thing that kept me watching it was the animation. The animation is truly revolutionary in how detailed it is. I'd love to see this animation style applied to more hentai series which the industry desperately needs. The reason other H-Animes dont get the same love is because they'll make money whether their animation's good or bad because they're not off drawing disgusting old men as disgusting as they can. That's been really changing recently though. Softhouse-Seal which has the word soft in it is becoming incredibly big and doesn't normally go down the NTR or super-rape route. jakeslogan said: Well, to people who hate NTR, I don't know besides hentai do you guys watch porn...People getting rage at NTR because they're treating it like watching a normal anime so the sense of morality kicks in middle way when things start getting nasty. Therefore, You guys should treat watching NTR hentai as watching porn or at least a psychological movie, not a film or an anime. Are you saying your morality turns off... ever? After you see any kind of media and have appreciated it you'll probably do the same to everything. If it's trying to tell a story I'll let it. If I wanted it for the sex I wouldn't even know what NTR is. I'm actually surprised to see cuckolding or NTR to be popular. From what I heard on this site, everyone hates main character and just wants to see the main female protag get raped cause she's hot... How can anyone actually like the NTR aspect. It means your girl got taken from you and raped. You might deal with it differently compared to this shitty MC but i'd still feel sorry for you and wouldn't jerk to that. HowTragic said: I just imagine that the spineless MC is another pathetic male character... let's say fatso from Accel World or Kirito, and the mindbroken cock-sucking slut is an overhyped female character, let's say Kuroyukihime or Asuna, and this entire episode becomes just the greatest masterpiece I have ever feasted my eyes upon. Laughing at others' despair is truly revitalizing. Zannen desu ne? I also hate pathetic main characters. They make so many mistakes and you just want them to get their shit together, but wishing their girl gets mindbroken by a bunch of old dudes then laughing and jerkin to the video is worse than being a pathetic main character. Jeff1244 said: Srsly....That was juz damn cruel even the children is not his. When i was watching this i juz wanna beat otome and the other guy up... I don't understand why she even go to those disgusting pig den in the first place and his sister who was once their victim.... That kid is going to have the shittiest life of all. It's gonna be another Silk Specter(Watchmen) case all over again. no kidding, her kids will be FKED bi the same guy's when they get old enough that they can but their Dick's in!!! it can only go from bad to worse in so meany ways |
animeweeblord420 said: quadreon said: I hate NTR, I truly do. Just looking at how torn the main character is and how the ending was just a giant bitch slap Same here, this is the first hentai that left me in despair after watching for some reason. I just don't know. I couldn't even masturbate to it. well i ton't watch hentai for that reason (so i cold masturbate), i watch it for different reasons & 1 is plot, plot with good ending, but i say 1 thing NTR'S never make my dick hard cause the feeling of anger is strong, i have seen 2 NTR'S & this one without knowing that it is a NTR, but i have watched NTR'S were mane char starts fro zero & makes his revenge & takes back what he lost but in a NTR way, like bad guys in NTR, touching woman's boobs & crumple them & so on & on u get the picture |
Convolvolus said: shiro-kira said: can anyone answer my question please So that mean kazuki and otome did marry right so is it true or is it just a dream ? An if Kazuki an otome married so that mean she still cheating him and let those old guy fuck her My friend, it was ALL a dream. The reality of it all is that Otome and the main character fall in love, get married and live a happy and fulfilling life. Nothing ever happened to the sister - she lives a happy life too. Everyone ends up happy - happy, happy, happy. It was ALL a dream. If anyone sees it differently, then he or she missed the entire point of the story...or if you don't want to accept that, just put yourself in the place of the old smelly guy. (This is how I survive watching/reading NTR, shut up.) if its all a dream & she is no cheating, then were this sex tapes of Otome came from? fakes? or he watches empty Disk & imagines it all??? |
rishardew said: jakeslogan said: Well, to people who hate NTR, I don't know besides hentai do you guys watch porn, there's a fact that porn videos with adultery and cheating theme are extremely popular out there, and it's really thrilling when the cheating couples are caught red hands. Thing is, that usually in porn videos, there'll be the introduction (adultery bla bla bla) and then "normal" sex and maybe later they'll be caught. But in NTR they insist in putting all that drama and flashbacks that makes it, imho, annoying. What I didn't like about it wasn't even the NTR, it's kind of a turnoff for me when I can't "enjoy" what's going on because there's a generic-gray-old-fat-belly doing all the moaning above the girl for both of u, there are good NTR'S to same drama but mane char starts from Zero & takes back what he lost list of good NTR i know, i mean NTR'S with good end Aniyome, revange & taking back woman he loves http://myanimelist.net/anime/2140/Aniyome Tsuma no Haha Sayuri, more similar to Aniyome then others in this list http://myanimelist.net/anime/11465/Tsuma_no_Haha_Sayuri Rensa Byoutou, also revenge & getting back woman he loves http://myanimelist.net/anime/3941/Rensa_Byoutou Mejoku, this one is more about revange http://myanimelist.net/anime/2194/Mejoku Otome Chibaku Yuugi, also about revenge for girls who raped mane char, so more about revenge, mane guy makes his revenge http://myanimelist.net/anime/7581/Otome_Chibaku_Yuugi |
Sugram22Apr 3, 2013 6:22 AM
orion_momo said: A-Knight said: Rape is an over-sensationalized crime anyway, and the reaction to it is akin to a moral panic. These days people treat rape as worse than murder which is ridiculously stupid. Usually rape victims only lose "sexual purity" and have some short term trauma. The few exceptions would be those who get pregnant or get STDs, although it's far more likely for a rapist to get an STD from a female victim. Murder costs people their very lives. Not to mention many rape victims are partly at fault for dressing and acting like sluts. well for a law student point of view i find rape to be more heinous crimes a more higher degree than murder it deserve a punishable of death , but in japan they have a weak rape law although the rape case here is very low (because your guilty first until you proven innocence i hope in other country they implement the same to lower the crime rate there) sometime the rape in japan the culprit is foreigner because the local know if you commit rape your life is end, everything about is end no future for you, rape is rape, i remember when i'm talking to my fellow law student and friend who enter in military school - i said to them if you find a criminal like those kill them if you have chance an eye for eye, a tooth for tooth, evil on evil where just wasting a tax payer money if you were jail those kind of people, most of my law male student i know is pro death penalty compare to female one. if i become a member of parliament i make sure slaughter them all legally hohoho Joke! :D death wold be to easy, there shod be law that rape can be punished bi cutting off the rapist Cock :), i know i'm mean :D |
| the MC getting crushed in NTR'S like this dose not bother me as much the other stuff, woman's sex drive is 2 unrealistic, example, guy comes starts to rub girls boobs then 1min later when girl gets softer he buts his hands between her legs & starts to rub her pussy & when she gets more softer he goes all the way (& steals her away from MC), firs 1 or 2 time she feels quilt then after 3th or 4th time no more guilt & shes obsessed neither bi pleasure or his large cock, & same goes for rape, after 3th or 4th time she becomes obsessed bi..., if she is not slut from the beginning (what Otome was not) it wont not be so easy & second woman ton't become obsessed bi... in that way, bi FK or raping, if some1 brakes cause of rape she wont become to enjoy it & she will kill the rapist, it unless shes some1 who wants to get raped or not right in the head to begin with, it was just 1 example, but my point is that NTR'S like this one are to messed up, but i guess if they wold do NTR anime more realistic then it wold be 25EP long hentai i guess so i see the problem but still this is the part that bothers me the most |
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