| Orochimaru says that itachi is stronger than him. But kisame and itachi couldn't win against Jiraiya. How does that work? |
1nomox99 said: NovasAnimeList said: Orochimaru says that itachi is stronger than him. But kisame and itachi couldn't win against Jiraiya. How does that work? No Itachi and Kisame could defeat Jiraya but Itachi being a spy for the hidden leaf even as an Akatsuki member and still loyal to the leaf us the reason they retreated if you rewatch the episode Kisame is surprised when Hitachi says for them to retreat This is the answer. Glad that I don't have to type anymore🥴 |
| Itachi said that because he didn’t want to kill Jiraya, who’s a fellow member of the same village to Itachi. If they wanted to, Itachi and Kisame could’ve wrecked Jiraya. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
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NovasAnimeList said: Orochimaru says that itachi is stronger than him. But kisame and itachi couldn't win against Jiraiya. How does that work? Naruto was written on the fly, so it has a lot of inconsistencies like that sadly |
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Haise_pi said: what’s that supposed to mean?NightKnightTaken said: Naruto was written on the fly, so it has a lot of inconsistencies like that sadly 🤦🏽♂️ |
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| Yeah I agree with a few others tbh, I definitely think Itachi + Kisame > Jiraiya. |
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SlimeLordOfRats said: it’s “die hard” and what I said was completely true, Naruto wasn’t planned ahead, they just wrote things as they went, which obviously would cause tons of inconsistencies. So if pointing out problems with the show makes me a hater, then you must think it’s perfect..NightKnightTaken said: Naruto was written on the fly, so it has a lot of inconsistencies like that sadly Die heart hater🤦 |
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NightKnightTaken said: it’s “die hard” and what I said was completely true, Naruto wasn’t planned ahead, they just wrote things as they went, which obviously would cause tons of inconsistencies. So if pointing out problems with the show makes me a hater, then you must think it’s perfect.. Yes, it has a lot of inconsistencies, but this problem is not one of them. |
EdgyLord666 said: How is it not? Itachi could’ve easily put jiraiya in a genjutsu and beat him. He could even at that point take on the entire village with Kisame, and possibly win.NightKnightTaken said: it’s “die hard” and what I said was completely true, Naruto wasn’t planned ahead, they just wrote things as they went, which obviously would cause tons of inconsistencies. So if pointing out problems with the show makes me a hater, then you must think it’s perfect.. Yes, it has a lot of inconsistencies, but this problem is not one of them. |
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Emxyaa said: one piece is nowhere near as inconsistent as Naruto..NightKnightTaken said: Naruto was written on the fly, so it has a lot of inconsistencies like that sadly makes absolutely zero sense to say stuff about inconsistencies when you’re a one piece fan tho |
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Emxyaa said: how am I “hating for no reason” Naruto is riddled with inconsistencies that is nothing but a fact. The topic of discussion was about these inconsistencies so I pointed them out.. even if I was just “hating for no reason” that would be fine, because I would just be projecting my opinion of a show, in the forum of a site that is made for sharing your opinions of shows.. you’re just getting angry because I insulted a show you likeNightKnightTaken said: so? still has many inconsistencies you’re just hating for no reasonone piece is nowhere near as inconsistent as Naruto.. |
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NightKnightTaken said: How is it not? Itachi could’ve easily put jiraiya in a genjutsu and beat him. He could even at that point take on the entire village with Kisame, and possibly win. Did you even finish naruto? If you don't, you could at least read people's explanation in this thread, before making a dumb statement. You just made yourself laughable at this point. |
EdgyLord666 said: Itachi is easily on pain’s level, especially when with kisame. There was nobody in the village at the time apart from maybe tsunade (can’t remember if she was there or not) or donzo, who could even fight along side jiraiya. Most people in the thread are just making up justifications for why he did it. But it was simply because they didn’t know how strong they wanted jiraiya to be in comparison to Itachi yet. It’s laughable that you think Itachi couldn’t have easily snatched Naruto (pretty sure that’s what he was doing, but it doesn’t really matter) if he wanted to, when pain (who is relative to Itachi) destroyed a more powerful version of the leaf village on his own. And yes, I’ve finished Naruto. You just want to be able to justify all the show’s mistakes.NightKnightTaken said: How is it not? Itachi could’ve easily put jiraiya in a genjutsu and beat him. He could even at that point take on the entire village with Kisame, and possibly win. Did you even finish naruto? If you don't, you could at least read people's explanation in this thread, before making a dumb statement. You just made yourself laughable at this point. |
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NightKnightTaken said: EdgyLord666 said: Itachi is easily on pain’s level, especially when with kisame. There was nobody in the village at the time apart from maybe tsunade (can’t remember if she was there or not) or donzo, who could even fight along side jiraiya. Most people in the thread are just making up justifications for why he did it. But it was simply because they didn’t know how strong they wanted jiraiya to be in comparison to Itachi yet. It’s laughable that you think Itachi couldn’t have easily snatched Naruto (pretty sure that’s what he was doing, but it doesn’t really matter) if he wanted to, when pain (who is relative to Itachi) destroyed a more powerful version of the leaf village on his own. And yes, I’ve finished Naruto. You just want to be able to justify all the show’s mistakes.Did you even finish naruto? If you don't, you could at least read people's explanation in this thread, before making a dumb statement. You just made yourself laughable at this point. So you never realize that Itachi is a spy? |
EdgyLord666 said: bro he had no contact with leaf after he was branded a traitor, he’s hardly a “spy”. Him being a “spy” was against the uchiha, he was still willing to torture Kakashi just because, kill tons of people for the akatsuki, and try to kill Naruto. So It’s clear that you couldn’t realise that he’s not one anymore..NightKnightTaken said: Itachi is easily on pain’s level, especially when with kisame. There was nobody in the village at the time apart from maybe tsunade (can’t remember if she was there or not) or donzo, who could even fight along side jiraiya. Most people in the thread are just making up justifications for why he did it. But it was simply because they didn’t know how strong they wanted jiraiya to be in comparison to Itachi yet. It’s laughable that you think Itachi couldn’t have easily snatched Naruto (pretty sure that’s what he was doing, but it doesn’t really matter) if he wanted to, when pain (who is relative to Itachi) destroyed a more powerful version of the leaf village on his own. And yes, I’ve finished Naruto. You just want to be able to justify all the show’s mistakes. So you never realize that Itachi is a spy? |
| "Equivalent exchange. I'll give half of my life to you, if you give half of your life to me." |
NightKnightTaken said: bro he had no contact with leaf after he was branded a traitor, he’s hardly a “spy”. Him being a “spy” was against the uchiha, he was still willing to torture Kakashi just because, kill tons of people for the akatsuki, and try to kill Naruto. So It’s clear that you couldn’t realise that he’s not one anymore.. Itachi was never a good guy to begin with. You could also said he is the worst spy all you want, but that's the reason why he doesn't destroy Konoha. He is Konoha's spy. |
EdgyLord666 said: he didn’t need to destroy the leaf, he just needed to beat jiraiya, which he could’ve easily done, especially when he was in a cramped space and needed to protect Naruto, he and Kisame could’ve beat jiraiya and anybody who would’ve gotten there fast enough to help, before they were at all overwhelmed.NightKnightTaken said: bro he had no contact with leaf after he was branded a traitor, he’s hardly a “spy”. Him being a “spy” was against the uchiha, he was still willing to torture Kakashi just because, kill tons of people for the akatsuki, and try to kill Naruto. So It’s clear that you couldn’t realise that he’s not one anymore.. Itachi was never a good guy to begin with. You could also said he is the worst spy all you want, but that's the reason why he doesn't destroy Konoha. He is Konoha's spy. |
| "Equivalent exchange. I'll give half of my life to you, if you give half of your life to me." |
| itachi & kisame could easily defeat jiraiya |
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