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Feb 23, 2021 9:42 AM
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So basically the witch locked a loli in a crystal for immortality experiment and makes copies of her but failed and then dies while holding 6 souls of his fellow witch in her dreams and left behind another loli who is lonely and a clown who is frown.

She then create a barrier so someone with half-blood cannot escape and prevent a devil warlock from entering so everybody can live safely so she looks like a good witch but in reality it is very bad as an example she create a coward beast guy who hate the outside world and making three stupid trials only to satisfy her knowledge and bully a half-elf.

And...because of her death she make her apprentice insane so he relies on an old stupid tome that command him to call a snowstorm, attract a horde of killer bunnies, and send two assassins to kill his own maid?

Tell me, how she is not the main antagonist of the season?

Feb 23, 2021 9:49 AM
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Also kissed a minor (Roswaal 16yrs) and made a minor (Subaru 17yrs) drink her bodily fluids.
Feb 23, 2021 9:52 AM
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Her influence is what made Roswal a villain, but Roswall IS the main antagonist, his obsession with her is what is making everything happen, Elsa, the rabbits and forcing Emilia in the trials are made by himself directly.
Feb 23, 2021 10:09 AM
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foxyahoo said:
Her influence is what made Roswal a villain, but Roswall IS the main antagonist, his obsession with her is what is making everything happen, Elsa, the rabbits and forcing Emilia in the trials are made by himself directly.


Are you sure it is not because of the tome? Where the hell he got that tome anyway? If it is from Echidna than I literally have no words..
Feb 23, 2021 10:09 AM
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The Best thing is Echidna actually managed to win the trust of even the viewers that is not bad which is insane, really few anime can do that
Feb 23, 2021 10:12 AM
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Enrav1x said:
The Best thing is Echidna actually managed to win the trust of even the viewers that is not bad which is insane, really few anime can do that


I agree with on this. I loved her by the end of episode 8.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
Feb 23, 2021 10:18 AM
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Enrav1x said:
The Best thing is Echidna actually managed to win the trust of even the viewers that is not bad which is insane, really few anime can do that

Yeah that was expected and unexpected at the same time. I am still stunned by Echidna's psychology. :D
“In the battlefield, there is no place for hope. What lies there is only cold despair and a sin called victory, built on the pain of the defeated. All those people who met there have wholeheartedly admitted the evil and foolishness of this act called war. As long as people don’t repent and don’t regard it as the most evil taboo, then hell will endlessly reappear in the world.”

– Kiritsugu Emiya
Feb 23, 2021 10:21 AM
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But she’s so hot
said the lolicon bastard
Feb 23, 2021 10:32 AM
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StoneFreee said:
But she’s so hot
yes indeed sir, she is soo hot 🥵
Feb 23, 2021 10:33 AM
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Amalik0029 said:
StoneFreee said:
But she’s so hot
yes indeed sir, she is soo hot 🥵

Sugoii kawaii desuu!!!
said the lolicon bastard
Feb 23, 2021 10:39 AM

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StoneFreee said:
Amalik0029 said:
yes indeed sir, she is soo hot 🥵

Sugoii kawaii desuu!!!

I don't know what you said but yess she is🥵
Feb 23, 2021 10:51 AM

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Amalik0029 said:
StoneFreee said:

Sugoii kawaii desuu!!!

I don't know what you said but yess she is🥵


Best dialogue that I saw ever. Laughed hard...
“In the battlefield, there is no place for hope. What lies there is only cold despair and a sin called victory, built on the pain of the defeated. All those people who met there have wholeheartedly admitted the evil and foolishness of this act called war. As long as people don’t repent and don’t regard it as the most evil taboo, then hell will endlessly reappear in the world.”

– Kiritsugu Emiya
Feb 23, 2021 11:31 AM
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Thanks for spoiling 😐
Feb 23, 2021 12:03 PM
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yeah, people tend to not see echidna as evil at all which shows why her deceptions are so great. she acted to nice to subaru and others just to use them for her schemes. hell, she used subaru's emotions of being able to tell others finally about RBD to manipulate him.
Feb 23, 2021 12:20 PM
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Winter_Fox said:
So basically the witch locked a loli in a crystal for immortality experiment and makes copies of her but failed and then dies while holding 6 souls of his fellow witch in her dreams and left behind another loli who is lonely and a clown who is frown.

She then create a barrier so someone with half-blood cannot escape and prevent a devil warlock from entering so everybody can live safely so she looks like a good witch but in reality it is very bad as an example she create a coward beast guy who hate the outside world and making three stupid trials only to satisfy her knowledge and bully a half-elf.

And...because of her death she make her apprentice insane so he relies on an old stupid tome that command him to call a snowstorm, attract a horde of killer bunnies, and send two assassins to kill his own maid?

Tell me, how she is not the main antagonist of the season?


she isn't the main antagonist because subaru doesn't have to overcome her. She doesn't hinder him at all. She actually tries to help him out, even at the cost of his thoughts and feelings being breached. Although she is evil in her own way, I would certainly not consider her a villain. What she does is immoral but its all for the sake of understanding the world better. Its selfish but that trait in itself is not enough to make someone a main antagonist of an entire season.
Feb 23, 2021 12:45 PM

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StoneFreee said:
But she’s so hot

Who's not hot in this world? Even Felix is.
Feb 23, 2021 3:52 PM

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agree, she deserves to be the main antagonist this season
Feb 23, 2021 4:27 PM
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She is the "force" that drives Roswaal becomes the main antagonist in this season. So you probably can call her "antagonist" if you wish. Roswaal is still the main antagonist because he directly hinders the protagonist.

I don't like Echidna because her actions aren't in line with my moral. But she is not a villain because she isnt simply "evil", she does whatever she feels she wanna do to expand her knowledge, and depend on your moral, you would think she is right or not. She experiments on Ryuzu but she got Ryuzu's consent for it, she left Beatrice a lonely life but Beatrice is created by her anw, she has the right to do whatever she wants to do with Beatrice. She left Roswaal because what, she died, and she didnt ask Roswaal to do such thing as to "end" the Santuary for her. Everything happens with Beatrice and Roswaal is due to Echidna's inability to understand human emotion.
Feb 23, 2021 6:09 PM
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Someanime said:
Also kissed a minor (Roswaal 16yrs) and made a minor (Subaru 17yrs) drink her bodily fluids.


This show has a European medieval fantasy kind of reality. There aren't many (biologically) old people in this show and the oldest heads are probably in their 50's/60's max. For the setting, it makes sense that that kinda stuff happens young due to the life expectancy, especially because of dangerous shit in the world of Re:Zero.
Feb 24, 2021 1:17 AM
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V_2021 said:
Someanime said:
Also kissed a minor (Roswaal 16yrs) and made a minor (Subaru 17yrs) drink her bodily fluids.


This show has a European medieval fantasy kind of reality. There aren't many (biologically) old people in this show and the oldest heads are probably in their 50's/60's max. For the setting, it makes sense that that kinda stuff happens young due to the life expectancy, especially because of dangerous shit in the world of Re:Zero.


I wouldn't call it a medieval setting, and most of them are actually adults.
Feb 24, 2021 1:58 AM
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glaceon_cute said:
She is the "force" that drives Roswaal becomes the main antagonist in this season. So you probably can call her "antagonist" if you wish. Roswaal is still the main antagonist because he directly hinders the protagonist.

I don't like Echidna because her actions aren't in line with my moral. But she is not a villain because she isnt simply "evil", she does whatever she feels she wanna do to expand her knowledge, and depend on your moral, you would think she is right or not. She experiments on Ryuzu but she got Ryuzu's consent for it, she left Beatrice a lonely life but Beatrice is created by her anw, she has the right to do whatever she wants to do with Beatrice. She left Roswaal because what, she died, and she didnt ask Roswaal to do such thing as to "end" the Santuary for her. Everything happens with Beatrice and Roswaal is due to Echidna's inability to understand human emotion.

What the hell? there are many animes in which the antagonist is there to take the hands of the heroine so u r saying that the girl is the main antagonist?
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Feb 24, 2021 8:52 AM
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Winter_Fox said:
So basically the witch locked a loli in a crystal for immortality experiment and makes copies of her but failed and then dies while holding 6 souls of his fellow witch in her dreams and left behind another loli who is lonely and a clown who is frown.

She then create a barrier so someone with half-blood cannot escape and prevent a devil warlock from entering so everybody can live safely so she looks like a good witch but in reality it is very bad as an example she create a coward beast guy who hate the outside world and making three stupid trials only to satisfy her knowledge and bully a half-elf.

And...because of her death she make her apprentice insane so he relies on an old stupid tome that command him to call a snowstorm, attract a horde of killer bunnies, and send two assassins to kill his own maid?

Tell me, how she is not the main antagonist of the season?

an many people are convinced that echidna is good lol
EMT



Feb 24, 2021 10:34 AM
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Hikitaka said:

What the hell? there are many animes in which the antagonist is there to take the hands of the heroine so u r saying that the girl is the main antagonist?


...I don't understand what you are asking me or why are you suprised. But I didn't say anything about the antagonist taking the heroine's hands or something similar, or calling Echidna the main antagonist. I clearly pointed out Roswaal is the main antagonist in this season, didn't I? I called Echidna the "force" that drove Roswaal to be the antagonist and whether you interpret that as the main antagonist or not is your choice, because some people do think the force driving antagonist is the real antagonist.

For information, antagonist is simply a position of a character that opposes the protagonist. You can still be good and be an antagonist. If the heroine holding hand with another antagonist and opposes the protagonist, then she is also an antagonist in the narrative.
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