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Jul 3, 2019 9:17 AM

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Jackrito said:
When did this become claim heavy

i already claimed i was not the cop, you shoudl look at that interaction really, since you think gwen is town... πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’
Jul 3, 2019 9:17 AM

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I take back everything I said about a wolf having to be between dono and Dias
Jul 3, 2019 9:18 AM

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Nibio said:
I take back everything I said about a wolf having to be between dono and Dias

you neut/town read me now?? o.O
Jul 3, 2019 9:18 AM

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AlbertinoDias said:
Jackrito said:
When did this become claim heavy

i already claimed i was not the cop, you shoudl look at that interaction really, since you think gwen is town... πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’
well I'm not voting Gwen today
Jul 3, 2019 9:19 AM

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AlbertinoDias said:
Nibio said:
I take back everything I said about a wolf having to be between dono and Dias

you neut/town read me now?? o.O
no, I'm just take back my statement about there having to be a wolf between you and dono based on claims, since I misremembered what you said at the start of the game
Jul 3, 2019 9:20 AM

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Nibio said:
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you neut/town read me now?? o.O
no, I'm just take back my statement about there having to be a wolf between you and dono based on claims, since I misremembered what you said at the start of the game

fair

Nibio said:
AlbertinoDias said:

i already claimed i was not the cop, you shoudl look at that interaction really, since you think gwen is town... πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’
well I'm not voting Gwen today

your loss
Jul 3, 2019 9:22 AM

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AlbertinoDias said:
Jackrito said:
When did this become claim heavy

i already claimed i was not the cop, you shoudl look at that interaction really, since you think gwen is town... πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’


Why would that not make me think Gwen is town
Jul 3, 2019 9:24 AM

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Jackrito said:
AlbertinoDias said:

i already claimed i was not the cop, you shoudl look at that interaction really, since you think gwen is town... πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜’


Why would that not make me think Gwen is town

backed to quickly, made an excuse to back down which is obv faked, got back on me without much, overall, her reaction was faked
Jul 3, 2019 9:26 AM

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AlbertinoDias said:

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Why would that not make me think Gwen is town

backed to quickly, made an excuse to back down which is obv faked, got back on me without much, overall, her reaction was faked


Wait when did then back down.
Jul 3, 2019 9:27 AM

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I believe dono barring a investigative counterclaim

Fine removing her from the poe

Did dias claim cop?
Jul 3, 2019 9:30 AM

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Unvote Dono

For now I guess still don't buy it though.

Vote: Karote

Move down the line
Jul 3, 2019 9:34 AM

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So

My theorized scumteam has a branch depending on which of Gwen / Dias is scum

Dias is scum route

Dias / aa-dono / Pyro

Gwen is scum route

Gwen / Crossbell / Shinichi

idk how you came to those teams based on Dias and gwen
Interactions from d1 plus rereading with Mood's and Yurkin's flips in mind
Jul 3, 2019 9:34 AM

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Crossbell said:
^ my above post doesn't have as much content as I hoped to because I spent a while trying to figure out what osie actually did with the two flips

so far, all I've gotten is that

1) moodbooster and yurkin may have had power roles, but they were modkilled as neutral goon and neutral vanilla respectively

2) if either of them had a power role, another player of the same alignment (that was previously a goon or vanilla) inherited that power role instead



Oh that's why you asked if I have new neighbour.
No, it's my ability, not Moods.
Mood claimed PR tho, and I have no idea why would he claim PR if ha was vanilla, so it's very likely someone else is now.
Jul 3, 2019 9:36 AM

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Votecount 2.4

Sing, my angel!

AlbertinoDias (2) - NewG, Marluxion
aa-dono (2) - Tainted, logic340
Karote (2) - Crossbell, Jackrito

NewG (1) - AlbertinoDias
logic340 (1) - Nibio

Not Voting (6) - Cantripmancer, Pyromaani, aa-dono, Shinichi-kun, Roz1roz, Karote

With 14 players remaining, it takes 8 to lynch by majority, or a lynch can occur by plurality at EoD.

Day 2 lynch deadline is July 6th at 3:00 PM MST.
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Jul 3, 2019 9:37 AM

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aa-dono said:
I won't be available a lot until the 6th coz of family event.

I'm the tracker.

I'm good with any lynches out of my townreads/leans.


vote: dono
Jul 3, 2019 9:37 AM

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Logic said:

I see pyro getting town reads for his carefree nature yet karote and dias are not being afforded the same courtesy?

ok fair, I accidentally reworded this statement in my head based on some assumptions but the x y z argument still stands

Jul 3, 2019 9:38 AM

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Crossbell said:
I believe dono barring a investigative counterclaim

Fine removing her from the poe

Did dias claim cop?
no that was a mistake on my part, Dias never claimed Cop
Jul 3, 2019 9:39 AM

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roz1roz said:
Crossbell said:
^ my above post doesn't have as much content as I hoped to because I spent a while trying to figure out what osie actually did with the two flips

so far, all I've gotten is that

1) moodbooster and yurkin may have had power roles, but they were modkilled as neutral goon and neutral vanilla respectively

2) if either of them had a power role, another player of the same alignment (that was previously a goon or vanilla) inherited that power role instead



Oh that's why you asked if I have new neighbour.
No, it's my ability, not Moods.
Mood claimed PR tho, and I have no idea why would he claim PR if ha was vanilla, so it's very likely someone else is now.
if you read Osie's mod post, it was totally possible that Mood was not the goon, and that his ability was probably switched with the actual goon, so that mafia didnt lose one of their PRs
Jul 3, 2019 9:40 AM

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1. Mood claimed tracker
2. Cross says roles were transfered to new players of same aligment
3. dono claims tracker

Jul 3, 2019 9:41 AM

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Dias / aa-dono / Pyro

Since people had questions i'll explain, i felt like some would be pretty obvious and people would immediately agree - guess people don't get the same vibes from the posts that i did

Dias flips scum

Aa-dono's guilt in this scenario comes from the main reason people started townreading her - her huge wallpost. In it, she mentions under mood that she didn't like one of mood's posts because it was defending Dias. However, in her post under he reaction's to dias' post she says she likes Dias and thinks he's town.

Pyro has a bunch of quotes early where he talks with people talking about dias but never comments on dias. It felt odd, like he didn't feel the need to speak to or about dias.

Jul 3, 2019 9:41 AM

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roz1roz said:
aa-dono said:
I won't be available a lot until the 6th coz of family event.

I'm the tracker.

I'm good with any lynches out of my townreads/leans.


vote: dono
honestly, I cant see a wolf making this sort of post in a bubble, like the claim isnt really townie, but its a PR that I don't want to touch, she will always be in the PoE now if she doesn't die, and her last sentence doesn't seem like a post a wolf would make

or shes a really good wolf player and I am underestimating her
Jul 3, 2019 9:42 AM

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roz1roz said:
1. Mood claimed tracker
2. Cross says roles were transfered to new players of same aligment
3. dono claims tracker

ohh seriously? :thinking_emoji:
Jul 3, 2019 9:43 AM

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roz1roz said:
1. Mood claimed tracker
2. Cross says roles were transfered to new players of same aligment
3. dono claims tracker


Wait did mood claim that in the neighborhood?
Jul 3, 2019 9:44 AM

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roz1roz said:
1. Mood claimed tracker
2. Cross says roles were transfered to new players of same aligment
3. dono claims tracker



Would Mood not of said he claimed tracker though, Actually making assumption what mood did is a waste of time. I could buy it did he say who he tracked
Jul 3, 2019 9:45 AM

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Also - further on the topic of Aa, in her wallpost she gave a really really bad reason to townread Yurkin. Kinda like a wolf just wanting to be right and not like a real read. That alone raises her wolf equity imo

Jul 3, 2019 9:46 AM

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Jackrito said:
roz1roz said:
1. Mood claimed tracker
2. Cross says roles were transfered to new players of same aligment
3. dono claims tracker



Would Mood not of said he claimed tracker though, Actually making assumption what mood did is a waste of time. I could buy it did he say who he tracked


No, it's absolutely not a waste of time. The one genuine post of mood makes it seem like his team was angry at him. It's likely he didn't communicate that much with his team and was just doing whatever the fuck he wanted in thread. If he didn't tell his team that he claimed to Roz, his lack of communication just screwed Aa big time.

Jul 3, 2019 9:48 AM

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what mood post are we talking about???
@marluxion
The one genuine post of mood makes it seem like his team was angry at him
Jul 3, 2019 9:48 AM

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Change Vote: Aa-dono

Jul 3, 2019 9:48 AM

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Nibio said:
what mood post are we talking about???
@marluxion
The one genuine post of mood makes it seem like his team was angry at him
Look at mood's last post before EoD.
The edited one.
Jul 3, 2019 9:51 AM

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Marluxion said:
Nibio said:
what mood post are we talking about???
@marluxion
Look at mood's last post before EoD.
The edited one.
wtf... wowowow, big yikes

though im not a fan of scum reading Dono because of something so anglely, but if we are to believe Roz, then shes probably outted Mafia
Jul 3, 2019 9:52 AM

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I feel so dirty using that post since it was done after death. Even without I can still see dono as lying
Jul 3, 2019 9:52 AM

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In exact - Mood claimed non-consecutive tracker who found someone n0 and didn't want to tell me who, since they didn't trust me.

So they were pretty much leaving breadcrumbs for later(?)
There is also an option that there are 2 trackers in this game, one for town and scum.

Tho it's highly suspicious dono brings it up right now.
Imo they did it, since they were vanilla before and theirs role were swapped so theirs gameplay so far didn't match theirs role and they had to out it due to it.
Jul 3, 2019 9:53 AM

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Jackrito said:
I feel so dirty using that post since it was done after death. Even without I can still see dono as lying

We don't have to use it, really. Any mafia might not tell his team he claimed in a neighborhood chat. It's a realistic possibility.
Jul 3, 2019 9:54 AM

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Marluxion said:
Jackrito said:


Would Mood not of said he claimed tracker though, Actually making assumption what mood did is a waste of time. I could buy it did he say who he tracked


No, it's absolutely not a waste of time. The one genuine post of mood makes it seem like his team was angry at him. It's likely he didn't communicate that much with his team and was just doing whatever the fuck he wanted in thread. If he didn't tell his team that he claimed to Roz, his lack of communication just screwed Aa big time.


The thing is tho, dono replied to my earlier post where I said Mood claimed tracker and flipped vanilla.
Dono knew it.

If any, they didn't know that we will be told that roles were swapped, not cleaned, that makes Cross insta lock town.
Jul 3, 2019 9:56 AM

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No, it's absolutely not a waste of time. The one genuine post of mood makes it seem like his team was angry at him. It's likely he didn't communicate that much with his team and was just doing whatever the fuck he wanted in thread. If he didn't tell his team that he claimed to Roz, his lack of communication just screwed Aa big time.


The thing is tho, dono replied to my earlier post where I said Mood claimed tracker and flipped vanilla.
Dono knew it.

If any, they didn't know that we will be told that roles were swapped, not cleaned, that makes Cross insta lock town.

Yep. Which means - If it's dono, Dias is scum. Probably last in Pyro.
Jul 3, 2019 9:57 AM

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To be honest, it COULD still be Gwen and Pyro or Shinichi, but Gwen seems to be fine with a dono lynch yesterday which is why i had her and dono on separate lists
Jul 3, 2019 10:03 AM

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have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens
Jul 3, 2019 10:05 AM

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AlbertinoDias said:
have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens


I mean, "no role changing except in the modkill case" makes it kinda obvious it did happen.
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roz1roz said:
AlbertinoDias said:
have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens


I mean, "no role changing except in the modkill case" makes it kinda obvious it did happen.

where is that?? (didn't read, lol then yes, it prob happened xD)
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AlbertinoDias said:
have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens
yikers
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AlbertinoDias said:
have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens


Well think on it like this not really fair to scum if they lose a good role because a loose cannon, They already lost a man and their NK unless it was stopped I think it is normal host would may give them the benefit.

I would not trust mood claim that much but both claiming tracker is really suspect they are so many different roles to claim in this. Dono play is not the most town either to make the assumption worse.

Jul 3, 2019 10:12 AM

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honestly Dias could get lynched and flip town, and it wouldnt change my opinion on Gwen

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Nibio said:
honestly Dias could get lynched and flip town, and it wouldnt change my opinion on Gwen


remember whe i said i wouldn't blame you?? i wouldn't, but if you do this, i would sleep well thinking it was all your fault
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Still probably wouldn't lynch dono until an investigative role ccs

Why would she claim tracker here if she is scum and inherited mood's role? That just invites the town investigative to cc and for the scum to be another person down
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AlbertinoDias said:
Nibio said:
honestly Dias could get lynched and flip town, and it wouldnt change my opinion on Gwen


remember whe i said i wouldn't blame you?? i wouldn't, but if you do this, i would sleep well thinking it was all your fault
i would blame you actually, you are refusing to play the game, and then u want us to listen to you

its gunna be a hard no from me dog
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Jackrito said:
AlbertinoDias said:
have you ever seen a game where vanilla inherits an ability??
and why are you trusting moods claim so much?? he was all over the place, he lying to you is one the things i would expect, lol
this reasoning rises so many questions...
i will be happy when you lynch me and see i'm town tho, i jsut hope you insta kill gwen when that happens


Well think on it like this not really fair to scum if they lose a good role because a loose cannon, They already lost a man and their NK unless it was stopped I think it is normal host would may give them the benefit.

I would not trust mood claim that much but both claiming tracker is really suspect they are so many different roles to claim in this. Dono play is not the most town either to make the assumption worse.


i just found it odd that without osie having it written anywhere he would switch power roles, because, mod kills are the maximum thing you can give to a player, i personally wouldn't switch roles because a player was modkilled, the team doesn't have anything to do with that, sure, but the otehr team doesn't have anything to do with that either, so you're technically helping one team over another
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Nibio said:
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remember whe i said i wouldn't blame you?? i wouldn't, but if you do this, i would sleep well thinking it was all your fault
i would blame you actually, you are refusing to play the game, and then u want us to listen to you

its gunna be a hard no from me dog

such as my flip wouldn't change your stance on gwen, your opinion of it being my fault wouldn't change my opinion of it being yours ^^
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Still probably wouldn't lynch dono until an investigative role ccs

Why would she claim tracker here if she is scum and inherited mood's role? That just invites the town investigative to cc and for the scum to be another person down
hmm thats actually a good point,
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Nibio said:
honestly Dias could get lynched and flip town, and it wouldnt change my opinion on Gwen



Same lol, also If he flips town I'm still going to doubt the flip
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AlbertinoDias said:
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i would blame you actually, you are refusing to play the game, and then u want us to listen to you

its gunna be a hard no from me dog

such as my flip wouldn't change your stance on gwen, your opinion of it being my fault wouldn't change my opinion of it being yours ^^
i fail to see how your flip means anything for Gwen, cant town be wrong? and you are literally just butting heads with everyone that doesn't listen to you

I mean if I lose to wolves that know how to be town, then I guess ill take that loss, over losing to mediocracy
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