logic340 said: I had you as a town lean because ur posts seemed so natural before, less now, since it's about time you took some deeper stances, outside just mentioning namesYikes!!! 6% on my battery... I'll be back. Give me reads, real reads when you get the chance Also I don't like that, Dias is doing X things, so why is he getting called out when Y and Z are also doing these things Just feels wolfy, trying to discredit our read of dias like that |
Nibio said: logic340 said: I had you as a town lean because ur posts seemed so natural before, less now, since it's about time you took some deeper stances, outside just mentioning namesYikes!!! 6% on my battery... I'll be back. Give me reads, real reads when you get the chance Also I don't like that, Dias is doing X things, so why is he getting called out when Y and Z are also doing these things Just feels wolfy, trying to discredit our read of dias like that I would have to agree with this after doing the same reread he did. I came out with different names. The only one in the three he mentioned is Shin but even that is doubtful. Also if he thinks they was powerwolfing does it not make more sense to see who mood protected and voted. Which would clear Cross |
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| I'm trying to keep my who I am a secret but it's obvious that I know certain people as you can tell Like I know many peeps from MTGS, and shin is literally a meme there, like the dude doesn't know how to be town, I hate jumping on him, and I hate when others jump on him and I would say the thing I hate the most about him, is that he didn't vote one person day 1, that irks me, cause he wants us to not use meta, but he wants us to read him on meta, and then he doesn't do anything and the he expects us to just believe he is town off very little Like it's frustrating, and I literally don't know what to do with him, like I almost want to Lynch him today, just so I don't have to hedge on him later on @jackrito |
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Nibio said: I'm trying to keep my who I am a secret but it's obvious that I know certain people as you can tell Like I know many peeps from MTGS, and shin is literally a meme there, like the dude doesn't know how to be town, I hate jumping on him, and I hate when others jump on him and I would say the thing I hate the most about him, is that he didn't vote one person day 1, that irks me, cause he wants us to not use meta, but he wants us to read him on meta, and then he doesn't do anything and the he expects us to just believe he is town off very little Like it's frustrating, and I literally don't know what to do with him, like I almost want to Lynch him today, just so I don't have to hedge on him later on @jackrito Yeah I can understand that welcome to my hell. I don't want to lynch him today since I still think he may be town. I have seen him pull that nonsense before on day one so I'm hoping we get something today. I see dono Karote and Dias as more likely scum. Shin is nowhere near my other town reads though so I would not fight it. If we have a vig in this game it could fix the issue lol. |
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| Wouldn't hate that vig shot, and I hope the cop checks in the neutral/nulls, it would make this game so much easier |
| Votecount 2.2 (Unchanged) Here's to us The toast for the city What a pity that the Phantom can't be here~ AlbertinoDias (2) - NewG, Nibio NewG (1) - AlbertinoDias aa-dono (1) - Jackrito Karote (1) - Crossbell Not Voting (9) - Marluxion, Cantripmancer, Pyromaani, aa-dono, Shinichi-kun, Roz1roz, logic340, Karote, Tainted With 14 players remaining, it takes 8 to lynch by majority, or a lynch can occur by plurality at EoD. Day 2 lynch deadline is July 6th at 3:00 PM MST. |
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| I think this game is close to auto Dias, Cantrip, dono, shin, logic, karote Tainted is still up in the air, but I'm liking the above PoE for all of the mafia for the most part |
Nibio said: I think this game is close to auto Dias, Cantrip, dono, shin, logic, karote Tainted is still up in the air, but I'm liking the above PoE for all of the mafia for the most part I think Tainted may be town based off early interactions with Mood and how much Mood pushed for their lynch early. Im still so unsure on cantrip though |
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| General thoughts from the last two pages: - I was lightly townreading Dias Day 1, but the fact that he strode into Today without re-evaluating anything, voted Gwen, on top of having (I think?) pretty poor interactions with MoodBooster has soured my opinion on his slot. I'll need to take a look at the exact Mood/Dias interactions again because calling your scumbuddy confirmed town is kind of a risky move from Mood's side, but that's what my thoughts on him right now are. - logic's focus on Marluxion/me/NewG is strange because I know I am town, and I think Marlux/NewG are town. Plus, scum can definitely change how they play if 1/4 of the game being lurkers got replaced with active players; I don't think that's a signal that one of us is scum. - This is a weird question, but @roz1roz: Do you have a new neighbor? - @logic340: ITT means "in the thread" - Karote's post (1796) bothers me as well because it's purely mafia theory. It's a post that has a lot of words and looks useful/solvey, but it actually doesn't mean anything besides the fact that Karote knows basic mafia theory. |
| ^ my above post doesn't have as much content as I hoped to because I spent a while trying to figure out what osie actually did with the two flips so far, all I've gotten is that 1) moodbooster and yurkin may have had power roles, but they were modkilled as neutral goon and neutral vanilla respectively 2) if either of them had a power role, another player of the same alignment (that was previously a goon or vanilla) inherited that power role instead |
Crossbell said: ^ my above post doesn't have as much content as I hoped to because I spent a while trying to figure out what osie actually did with the two flips so far, all I've gotten is that 1) moodbooster and yurkin may have had power roles, but they were modkilled as neutral goon and neutral vanilla respectively 2) if either of them had a power role, another player of the same alignment (that was previously a goon or vanilla) inherited that power role instead That is the most likely out come. |
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logic340 said: Idk. The only real push on me came from Jack.ok I'm all caught up now. Hard to digest all that. On my read EoD doesn't feel as hostile as it must have been to be there. With mood being scum and marl nib looking town how do you feel about that push on you EoD(page 34)? |
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| Also in the back of my head I know that it's totally possible for Mood to have pushed one of his partners, I probably won't humor it today or tomorrow because of how I read both jack or cross Just a thought though |
| He's in my null. I want to sort him out, but he hasn't caught up yet to my knowledge and I was entertaining the thought that roz put up last phase. |
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Nibio said: I think this game is close to auto Dias, Cantrip, dono, shin, logic, karote Tainted is still up in the air, but I'm liking the above PoE for all of the mafia for the most part You're basically listing all the low posters, you dont think scum could be in the active pile leading towards the wrong direction? |
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NewG said: u want me to humor the high posters who are moving the game forward, giving thoughts, and producing questions, on day 2? Cause that ain't happening, there is no way, unless something pings me, that I ever touch Cross or Jack today, that's just facts, unless against something significant happens which I doubtNibio said: I think this game is close to auto Dias, Cantrip, dono, shin, logic, karote Tainted is still up in the air, but I'm liking the above PoE for all of the mafia for the most part You're basically listing all the low posters, you dont think scum could be in the active pile leading towards the wrong direction? |
Nibio said: I think this game is close to auto Dias, Cantrip, dono, shin, logic, karote Tainted is still up in the air, but I'm liking the above PoE for all of the mafia for the most part i like this PoE a lot very fine with just purely poking all six of these players with sticks and making them produce content until they clear themselves or we think they're scum Nibio said: I'm trying to keep my who I am a secret but it's obvious that I know certain people as you can tell Like I know many peeps from MTGS, and shin is literally a meme there, like the dude doesn't know how to be town, I hate jumping on him, and I hate when others jump on him and I would say the thing I hate the most about him, is that he didn't vote one person day 1, that irks me, cause he wants us to not use meta, but he wants us to read him on meta, and then he doesn't do anything and the he expects us to just believe he is town off very little Like it's frustrating, and I literally don't know what to do with him, like I almost want to Lynch him today, just so I don't have to hedge on him later on @jackrito think he's the type of player who will always be in the PoE regardless of his alignment i think i am okay at reading shin, and again, i've been waiting for him to give me something to work with, and he just hasn't if he doesn't put a lot of content into the thread today then he'll need to be lynched for not being villagery enough/lurking |
aa-dono said: logic340 said: Idk. The only real push on me came from Jack.ok I'm all caught up now. Hard to digest all that. On my read EoD doesn't feel as hostile as it must have been to be there. With mood being scum and marl nib looking town how do you feel about that push on you EoD(page 34)? none of the people who voted for you rings your alarms? |
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aa-dono said: Honestly would've still vote Jack if Mood didn't flip.logic340 said: Idk. The only real push on me came from Jack.ok I'm all caught up now. Hard to digest all that. On my read EoD doesn't feel as hostile as it must have been to be there. With mood being scum and marl nib looking town how do you feel about that push on you EoD(page 34)? I found the timing of his vote on me scummy. His pushes makes sense coming from a town perspective though. No comment on the rest when it comes to their pushes on me. They gave me nothing to work with and I don't really have anything I want to ask at the moment. |
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| And not the mention, if jack or cross is scum, or even if both are wolves, that means mood spent his time, town reading mostly town and hard bussing to distance, which is a viable strat, but humoring that now is just paranioa |
Nibio said: I'm trying to keep my who I am a secret but it's obvious that I know certain people as you can tell i will say that i am sort of curious as to who you are, now the intersection of "people who play on MU", "people who play on MTGS", and "people who post like you do" is pretty low |
aa-dono said: aa-dono said: Honestly would've still vote Jack if Mood didn't flip.Idk. The only real push on me came from Jack. I found the timing of his vote on me scummy. His pushes makes sense coming from a town perspective though. No comment on the rest when it comes to their pushes on me. They gave me nothing to work with and I don't really have anything I want to ask at the moment. Ok so who do you think is scum still Cantrip? |
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| I still think Cantrip reads from Day 1 feels forced, but nothing pings me from them this phase, and they skip my question from last phase too (shrug) |
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Nibio said: NewG said: u want me to humor the high posters who are moving the game forward, giving thoughts, and producing questions, on day 2? Cause that ain't happening, there is no way, unless something pings me, that I ever touch Cross or Jack today, that's just facts, unless against something significant happens which I doubtYou're basically listing all the low posters, you dont think scum could be in the active pile leading towards the wrong direction? We don't have actual facts you know. My townreads are just as the same as yours (they are not 100% townreads tho), but I am just afraid that we might be mistaken with one of them. You, Jack and Cross are good players after all. Moving the game foward doesnt equal town. The direction WHERE the game is moving is more of a crucial part. I just find it a bit too easy but we will see. |
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| Confirmed Town: yurkin Town (S -> W): Nibio, Jackrito, (Gap) Marluxion, roz1roz, NewG, Pyromaani Null/Null-Scum: Tainted, Cantripmancer, logic340, Karote, Shinichi-kun, aa-dono, AlbertinoDias Confirmed Mafia: MoodBooster gonna start rereading to firm up the null/null-scum reads but probably won't get there tonight |
Jackrito said: I currently have no scumreads. I do find Cantrip the most suspicious.aa-dono said: Honestly would've still vote Jack if Mood didn't flip. I found the timing of his vote on me scummy. His pushes makes sense coming from a town perspective though. No comment on the rest when it comes to their pushes on me. They gave me nothing to work with and I don't really have anything I want to ask at the moment. Ok so who do you think is scum still Cantrip? Waiting for my brain to work on sorting out nulls. Dias has fallen from townleans, but Karote is still up there. Gwen is in my townleans too. Have a bad gut read on Cross, but that's it. |
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aa-dono said: I currently have no scumreads. I do find Cantrip the most suspicious. Waiting for my brain to work on sorting out nulls. Dias has fallen from townleans, but Karote is still up there. Gwen is in my townleans too. Have a bad gut read on Cross, but that's it. Ok explain to me this Karote read. I'm just not seeing it. Mood also had this read which bothers me. |
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Nibio said: And not the mention, if jack or cross is scum, or even if both are wolves, that means mood spent his time, town reading mostly town and hard bussing to distance, which is a viable strat, but humoring that now is just paranioa I'm only saying that cause we all pretty much came to the same conclusion and I feel like maybe one scum slipped in that town block <.< you can never be paranoid enough in a mafia game! |
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NewG said: it's a bit too easy because the modkills were insanely good for us d1Nibio said: u want me to humor the high posters who are moving the game forward, giving thoughts, and producing questions, on day 2? Cause that ain't happening, there is no way, unless something pings me, that I ever touch Cross or Jack today, that's just facts, unless against something significant happens which I doubt We don't have actual facts you know. My townreads are just as the same as yours (they are not 100% townreads tho), but I am just afraid that we might be mistaken with one of them. You, Jack and Cross are good players after all. Moving the game foward doesnt equal town. The direction WHERE the game is moving is more of a crucial part. I just find it a bit too easy but we will see. i don't know the scum team composition, but usually when i've been scum in these games there's like 1 or 2 active players and always at least 1 scum who lurks or doesn't do anything. moodbooster feels like the type of active scum designed to go deep, which means that all we have to do deal with are the 1/2/3 scum who are lurking and aren't doing anything now, there could be one other scum that is active and is designed to go deep, but we probably aren't catching them until we exhaust the scum who are lurking |
Jackrito said: It's in his tone. Idk if I'm reading based on meta (I usually don't) but Karote's post gave off the vibe of someone trying to figure out others' alignment. He's baiting and waiting. And when something feels off, he states it. It doesn't seem like a scum thing to figure others out. That's something they already know so they can only add confusion.aa-dono said: I currently have no scumreads. I do find Cantrip the most suspicious. Waiting for my brain to work on sorting out nulls. Dias has fallen from townleans, but Karote is still up there. Gwen is in my townleans too. Have a bad gut read on Cross, but that's it. Ok explain to me this Karote read. I'm just not seeing it. Mood also had this read which bothers me. Well, it's not a strong read, so Idm if anyone pushes this slot. |
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NewG said: Nibio said: And not the mention, if jack or cross is scum, or even if both are wolves, that means mood spent his time, town reading mostly town and hard bussing to distance, which is a viable strat, but humoring that now is just paranioa I'm only saying that cause we all pretty much came to the same conclusion and I feel like maybe one scum slipped in that town block <.< you can never be paranoid enough in a mafia game! If one got in I think it is Cross but his thought process in general I have being fine with. I also liked his progressive read on my slot it is easy for him to get me lynched yesterday. Add that with how annoyed he got with mood I don't think he fakes it. |
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Crossbell said: NewG said: it's a bit too easy because the modkills were insanely good for us d1We don't have actual facts you know. My townreads are just as the same as yours (they are not 100% townreads tho), but I am just afraid that we might be mistaken with one of them. You, Jack and Cross are good players after all. Moving the game foward doesnt equal town. The direction WHERE the game is moving is more of a crucial part. I just find it a bit too easy but we will see. i don't know the scum team composition, but usually when i've been scum in these games there's like 1 or 2 active players and always at least 1 scum who lurks or doesn't do anything. moodbooster feels like the type of active scum designed to go deep, which means that all we have to do deal with are the 1/2/3 scum who are lurking and aren't doing anything now, there could be one other scum that is active and is designed to go deep, but we probably aren't catching them until we exhaust the scum who are lurking hmm fair point |
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| @NewG for example, in the last game I think I played with you where I was scum and you were town (The Great Terror Mafia) Gruffin and I were the scum designed to go deep, and Shinichi and TheConquerer were the lurking/inactive scum. In that game we bussed both Shinichi and Conq IIRC because they were going to get lynched eventually and we needed the town cred |
aa-dono said: Jackrito said: It's in his tone. Idk if I'm reading based on meta (I usually don't) but Karote's post gave off the vibe of someone trying to figure out others' alignment. He's baiting and waiting. And when something feels off, he states it. It doesn't seem like a scum thing to figure others out. That's something they already know so they can only add confusion.Ok explain to me this Karote read. I'm just not seeing it. Mood also had this read which bothers me. Well, it's not a strong read, so Idm if anyone pushes this slot. Weird I never got the vibe he was working people out he was just going with the flow. Do you have examples of him stating something he found off. I only remember him defending Dias from Gwen and sheeping what Mood told him. His whole pep talk thing to Dias felt forced as hell. |
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Crossbell said: @NewG for example, in the last game I think I played with you where I was scum and you were town (The Great Terror Mafia) Gruffin and I were the scum designed to go deep, and Shinichi and TheConquerer were the lurking/inactive scum. In that game we bussed both Shinichi and Conq IIRC because they were going to get lynched eventually and we needed the town cred Don't forget that I saw right through your plan D1 ;))) Town was in disbelief tho :( I think it was ever since that game I got paranoid lol |
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NewG said: Crossbell said: @NewG for example, in the last game I think I played with you where I was scum and you were town (The Great Terror Mafia) Gruffin and I were the scum designed to go deep, and Shinichi and TheConquerer were the lurking/inactive scum. In that game we bussed both Shinichi and Conq IIRC because they were going to get lynched eventually and we needed the town cred Don't forget that I saw right through your plan D1 ;))) Town was in disbelief tho :( I think it was ever since that game I got paranoid lol So yea I'd like to still keep every option open |
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Jackrito said: Uhh that requires me to find his post. (I will at some point later)aa-dono said: It's in his tone. Idk if I'm reading based on meta (I usually don't) but Karote's post gave off the vibe of someone trying to figure out others' alignment. He's baiting and waiting. And when something feels off, he states it. It doesn't seem like a scum thing to figure others out. That's something they already know so they can only add confusion. Well, it's not a strong read, so Idm if anyone pushes this slot. Weird I never got the vibe he was working people out he was just going with the flow. Do you have examples of him stating something he found off. I only remember him defending Dias from Gwen and sheeping what Mood told him. His whole pep talk thing to Dias felt forced as hell. His reaction to my question to Nibio for example, shows intent in reading me (though it was in the form of accusation). And I like his earlier vote on Tainted. I don't think his interaction with Dias was forced, though it does feel easy. Sheeping Karote is normal though. |
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| Inb4 scum is Nib, Cross and Jack xD Yea we'd be fucked! I pray that that's not the case x) |
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| That would be a NewG said: Inb4 scum is Nib, Cross and Jack xD Yea we'd be fucked! I pray that that's not the case x) That would be like the best scum team I was ever in if true. |
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aa-dono said: I currently have no scumreads. I do find Cantrip the most suspicious. Waiting for my brain to work on sorting out nulls. Dias has fallen from townleans, but Karote is still up there. Gwen is in my townleans too. Have a bad gut read on Cross, but that's it. can you explain your reads progression on how dias fell from your townleans? |
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Crossbell said: Not gonna take credit, I might've been influenced by your reads on this one.aa-dono said: I currently have no scumreads. I do find Cantrip the most suspicious. Waiting for my brain to work on sorting out nulls. Dias has fallen from townleans, but Karote is still up there. Gwen is in my townleans too. Have a bad gut read on Cross, but that's it. can you explain your reads progression on how dias fell from your townleans? His EoD interaction wasn't great and the vote on Gwen even worse. Not enough to make me scumread him though. |
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| ok, you were influenced by my reads, but you also have a bad gut feeling on my alignment? explain that in more detail? if you have a sneaking suspicion that i might be scum, wouldn't that make any reads i give false? |
Jackrito said: secret is to play only games with only all good players in themI never get scum with the people I would want though. that way when you rand scum you get only good players as buddies (though a lot of people, me included, have wide ranges on how they play the game as town versus scum. i think my town game is very solid. i can't say the same for my scum game) |
| @logic340 @Tainted @Cantripmancer Can I please know where you stand this phase, and why? What do you think of Jack and Cross's reads? Particularly about Dias and me |
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Crossbell said: Yeah, that's one of the reason why I'm unwilling to put Dias low on my list. I think something's off with him, but even more something's off with how everyone seems divided by the read on Dias. For me, that seems like scum pushing it and town resisting.ok, you were influenced by my reads, but you also have a bad gut feeling on my alignment? explain that in more detail? if you have a sneaking suspicion that i might be scum, wouldn't that make any reads i give false? |
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| who are the scum pushing his lynch and who are the town resisting his lynch? |
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