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Feb 20, 2017 5:57 AM

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Ruu said:
Phraze said:
this makes sense. do u know how the mafia think?


I've rolled mafia enough times to have an idea on how they would behave. That is something I would do if I was scum. Wouldn't you do the same? Going for the unexpected is always a good move.
I haven't pulled a nightkill as scum yet, only do as I was told, so I have no idea. doing unexpected things is expected of all parties playing a mafia game.
moreover, this sounds like a 'I'm veteran' excuse. triggered
Feb 20, 2017 5:57 AM

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Phraze said:
tone in this game is too defensive. Lamb is still in my suspect list, but going with my top scum read.

Unvote. Vote: Ruu


Good old Phraze is back xD How come I'm always your top scum read?

Okay let's pretend I'm scum who would my buddies be? Lamb? Rinto? Who? Give a team woman! :p
Feb 20, 2017 5:58 AM

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Phraze said:
Ruu said:


I've rolled mafia enough times to have an idea on how they would behave. That is something I would do if I was scum. Wouldn't you do the same? Going for the unexpected is always a good move.
I haven't pulled a nightkill as scum yet, only do as I was told, so I have no idea. doing unexpected things is expected of all parties playing a mafia game.
moreover, this sounds like a 'I'm veteran' excuse. triggered


Lol I'm not a veteran at all xD But I have rolled scum more times than town.
Feb 20, 2017 5:59 AM

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Ruu said:
Also why shouldn't we discuss the lamb/ Phraze situation? Is one of the main reasons they are getting scum read.
Do you think lamb is bluffing and town reading him? And if he is not what do you think of Phraze's "lie" ?
I didn't lie
Feb 20, 2017 6:06 AM

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Ruu said:
Good old Phraze is back xD How come I'm always your top scum read?

Okay let's pretend I'm scum who would my buddies be? Lamb? Rinto? Who? Give a team woman! :p
now don't try to sidetrack me again. did the same in Disgaea and I'm not falling for it. ur my top scumread for good reasons
I suspect Lamb and Rinto, Suzu too, but ur top of the list

Ruu said:
Lol I'm not a veteran at all xD But I have rolled scum more times than town.
u trying to make my argument baseless with an excuse
Feb 20, 2017 6:21 AM

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Phraze said:
Ruu said:
Good old Phraze is back xD How come I'm always your top scum read?

Okay let's pretend I'm scum who would my buddies be? Lamb? Rinto? Who? Give a team woman! :p
now don't try to sidetrack me again. did the same in Disgaea and I'm not falling for it. ur my top scumread for good reasons
I suspect Lamb and Rinto, Suzu too, but ur top of the list

Ruu said:
Lol I'm not a veteran at all xD But I have rolled scum more times than town.
u trying to make my argument baseless with an excuse


How the truth can be an excuse?

Okay don't answer the team question if you don't want to but if you are so sure of your vote shouldn't you be trying to find the remaining scum? I want to know how you feel about other players.
Feb 20, 2017 6:25 AM

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Phraze said:
Ruu said:
Also why shouldn't we discuss the lamb/ Phraze situation? Is one of the main reasons they are getting scum read.
Do you think lamb is bluffing and town reading him? And if he is not what do you think of Phraze's "lie" ?
I didn't lie


If you didn't lie prove that lamb is the one doing the lying.
Feb 20, 2017 6:42 AM

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@Ruu stop and think about why each of them would lie from each alignment and walk through your reasoning from their PoV as scum and as town. Then go back to arguing with Phraze.

@Phraze why shouldn't I be lynching you today? Meta says I should be.

Also @Phraze completely disagree with your read on Ruu but I'm enjoying this line of pressure.
Feb 20, 2017 9:12 AM

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Okay following grape's advice I thought about Phraze/Lamb.

If we think this from Phraze's pov I think she would gain nothing from saying lamb was her D1 lover. She could be discredit inmediately by her actual partner, lamb and lamb's real lover.
Now from Lamb's pov he made Phraze look like a liar, generate confusion and shift the spotlight from him to her (at least I thin that was what he was trying). Also he hinted that he had a pr and that he gave it to his lover. But we have no way to make sure that's true because his lover won't confirm it (if that said lover really exist)
If lamb was town he would be doing something similar to grape's trap to sleip. But I think that by now he would have said he was lying and just testing Phraze...
Feb 20, 2017 9:16 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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You thought Grape was scummiest rather than the rest of us Day 1? :/ Thts why you didnt move your vote?

Where are you getting that idea from? I stated before that I said I knew Grapefruit wasn't going to get lynched and that I had no scum reads from day 1. I don't even know how you read that.

But the way I see it there are others who are at least scummy enough.
I see a great inconsistency with another game (I know I am not allowed to make a reference to on-going games) but I think this behaviour difference is important.
Feb 20, 2017 9:17 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
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Yeah it actually puzzles me too as I was not inclined to vote Sleipnirr but someone just wants it to happen.

I believe there is a scum in Sleipnirr's wagon. I still believe its Rinto at the moment.
Stop tunneling me :P I changed votes at last so that I couldn't get lynched in the heat of the moment or even cause a tie. If I didn't, what other evidence against me do you have?

You are not helping the cause of the game.
You are only answering and defending but no stance taken.

It also fits Sonata too, but I guess this is because I see too many Rinto this way..
Feb 20, 2017 9:19 AM

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Grapefruit21 said:
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Are you not being bias and town-reading everyone who is active in game? :/

I was worried about it but my town reads are still acting towny today. And Rosie has been fairly active and I'm not town reading them. Also other people have more or less town read most of the people I'm town reading here so I ahve some confirmation that other people are seeing what I'm seeing. Are you trying to say that you're scum reading Ruu or Kit?

At the moment I dont.
I honestly see that they seem townish but my problem is all of your town-read are people who are active and this isnt the first time I see it I think.
Feb 20, 2017 9:21 AM

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Ruu said:
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Everyone can say they are town, you know? No scums will say they are scum. Lol.

This post sounds very weird tbh, I mean-- its people's opinion if they see you as scummy right? Its your job to straighten their opinion, not just giving "i am town" "stop accusing me" :/


By saying that I was telling Phraze that her attempts to make me look scummy were weak and were failing. Ofc I know thatsaying I'm town is not enough but I think that I have show my towniness during the game. And Phraze is just trying to make my a lynch target so people will look at me instead of her or even Phraze.

Also why shouldn't we discuss the lamb/ Phraze situation? Is one of the main reasons they are getting scum read.
Do you think lamb is bluffing and town reading him? And if he is not what do you think of Phraze's "lie" ?

Can you elaborate this lie?
Is this about her being Lamby's Day 1 lover but Lamby denied it?

And choosing, I would say I trust Lamby more than Phraze at this moment and I was thinking that as town she is usually more reckless than this. It seems she is very careful, and I think the pressure will help. Nobody is willing to pressure Rinto, so I think I am just voting a useless case for today.

@Ruu do you still believe your meta-read on Phraze?

Vote: Phraze
Feb 20, 2017 9:40 AM

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_Claire_ said:
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Where are you getting that idea from? I stated before that I said I knew Grapefruit wasn't going to get lynched and that I had no scum reads from day 1. I don't even know how you read that.

But the way I see it there are others who are at least scummy enough.
I see a great inconsistency with another game (I know I am not allowed to make a reference to on-going games) but I think this behaviour difference is important.

Bad Claire bad.

Another game is another game, especially ones that are on going. If you can't see past that then maybe you shouldn't play two games at once. There are different rules to that game, as well I the fact that I a playing a different character. Find something in here worth voting me other.

As for your other point, you know better. I know you know better.

Feb 20, 2017 9:59 AM

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💖 Vote Count 2.6 💖
💘 Phraze 💘 (3): 🎀 Kit, Ruu, Claire 🎀
Lam-B (2): 🎀 Oyasumi_Rosie, Grapefruit21 🎀
Oyasumi_Rosie (2): 🎀 Suzune-chan, Lam-B 🎀
Ruu (1): 🎀 Phraze 🎀

🎵 Not Voting 🎵: ♡ Rinto-kun, Sonata ♡

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Feb 20, 2017 10:01 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
_Claire_ said:

But the way I see it there are others who are at least scummy enough.
I see a great inconsistency with another game (I know I am not allowed to make a reference to on-going games) but I think this behaviour difference is important.

Bad Claire bad.

Another game is another game, especially ones that are on going. If you can't see past that then maybe you shouldn't play two games at once. There are different rules to that game, as well I the fact that I a playing a different character. Find something in here worth voting me other.

As for your other point, you know better. I know you know better.

Please disregard my last sentence.
I am confusing the two games.

Anyway this is what I want to try to say:

You say you voted for grapefruit.
You didnt change your vote because nobody else was scummy enough.

My point is...
Why not vote someone who is leaning towards scummy rather than staying on Grape? Yes I know you said you havent scum-read anyone. Right? But Why not change your vote, pretty sure you didnt think everyone was equally neutral?
Feb 20, 2017 10:48 AM

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I'm feeling like what I'm seeing from Ruu this time is not her scum game, so I'm thinking leaning townie on her?

Sonata has been showing up even less than Rinto does... Thought she would be here more for D2 but we do still have a day left I think

Still feeling the same on Phraze right now, her behavior is rather similar to Haruhi (as scum) where she did normal stuff like post town reads and push on someone she thought was scummy. She might not be lying about the neighbor, actually if she was lying it would have made her seem more townie to me.

I'm not sure what to think about Rosie cause she's being really defensive, only seems worried about what people are thinking of her. But I'm gonna leave her alone for now since other people are on her case. Earlier in the game she seemed pretty ok to me.










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Feb 20, 2017 10:56 AM

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Suzune-chan said:
Kit said:
Vote: Phraze

Still think this is correct
Do you have a case or something concrete we can see in regards to this? I would be interested to see your thoughts behind it.
I made my case end of day one, and I kind of summarized it in my post before this one.










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Feb 20, 2017 10:58 AM

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Ruu said:
@Kit do you really think that lamb was trying to figure out the game? I was surprise to see how chill he looked and he was on the lead and a likely candidate for lynching. He looked too calm for me, at that moment I thought it was because he was sure of his towniness and that he wouldn't get lynch but now I'm thinking "what if he knew he would get save by his partners somehow?". I'm not seeing his posts very protown.
I don't think being calm while having a train is a scum tell.. actually I think it's the opposite. Scum would be more worried about being lynched than town would be, because town have numbers and the fact that they are town on their side.










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Feb 20, 2017 10:59 AM

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Phraze said:
@Kit
@Phraze who was your neighbor D1?
told ya, it was Lamb. for him to lie about it says scum to me alrdy.
You kind of only hinted at it before, but thanks for confirming. Why do you think Lamb would lie about this? From a scum perspective?










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Feb 20, 2017 10:59 AM

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_Claire_ said:

Please disregard my last sentence.
I am confusing the two games.

Anyway this is what I want to try to say:

You say you voted for grapefruit.
You didnt change your vote because nobody else was scummy enough.

My point is...
Why not vote someone who is leaning towards scummy rather than staying on Grape? Yes I know you said you havent scum-read anyone. Right? But Why not change your vote, pretty sure you didnt think everyone was equally neutral?

I am glad you realized your mistake.

And did read your post before submitting it? Because if you did, you would have known that you answered your own question.

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You say you voted for grapefruit.
You didnt change your vote because nobody else was scummy enough.


And I am still convinced that vote is OMGYS, I was then and I am now. Isn't voting because I am mad at someone just as bad as keeping my vote on someone I knew wouldn't be lynch? Either way the person I would have voted for wouldn't have died D1, so the outcome is the same.

Feb 20, 2017 11:03 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
_Claire_ said:

Please disregard my last sentence.
I am confusing the two games.

Anyway this is what I want to try to say:

You say you voted for grapefruit.
You didnt change your vote because nobody else was scummy enough.

My point is...
Why not vote someone who is leaning towards scummy rather than staying on Grape? Yes I know you said you havent scum-read anyone. Right? But Why not change your vote, pretty sure you didnt think everyone was equally neutral?

I am glad you realized your mistake.

And did read your post before submitting it? Because if you did, you would have known that you answered your own question.

_Claire_ said:
You say you voted for grapefruit.
You didnt change your vote because nobody else was scummy enough.


And I am still convinced that vote is OMGYS, I was then and I am now. Isn't voting because I am mad at someone just as bad as keeping my vote on someone I knew wouldn't be lynch? Either way the person I would have voted for wouldn't have died D1, so the outcome is the same.

I see, so you really do think grape = everyone else in terms of who is more scummy or not by the end of day 1? As in all of us were in neutral zone for you?
Feb 20, 2017 11:37 AM

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_Claire_ said:

I see, so you really do think grape = everyone else in terms of who is more scummy or not by the end of day 1? As in all of us were in neutral zone for you?

Yes. Of course. I didn't even start to see scum till I noticed a weird pattern in the VC D1.

Feb 20, 2017 2:28 PM

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Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?

Feb 20, 2017 2:42 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?
I think you guys are wasting effort arguing about it but I don't see anyone else doing anything

So obvious you were voting for grape for your "good luck charm" then just didn't bother moving it. Town can do it, scum can do it. I'd like to see someone's reasons for thinking you're scum over it. But I'd like to see you doing something other than defending yourself today










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Feb 20, 2017 2:46 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?

I've said it before but defensive scum. Because I can't read you I'm pursuing other reads first. More than happy to consolidate on you if I can't get the lam-b lynch through though.

Also I think I've decided I believe the traitor claim from D1 lover chat. Want to wait and hear back from my D2 lover before divulging who it is though. Reason is I don't believe this person would think they could fool me with that claim into claiming mafia. Plus they floated a possibly unrelated but very strange follow up play when I didn't respond, and acted on it in the thread.

I want opinions on what a traitor would mean for game balance and what town response should be before I say who it is. Because I have a strong opinion on it but want to see others before coloring it with my judgment.
Feb 20, 2017 2:51 PM

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_Claire_ said:
Ruu said:


By saying that I was telling Phraze that her attempts to make me look scummy were weak and were failing. Ofc I know thatsaying I'm town is not enough but I think that I have show my towniness during the game. And Phraze is just trying to make my a lynch target so people will look at me instead of her or even Phraze.

Also why shouldn't we discuss the lamb/ Phraze situation? Is one of the main reasons they are getting scum read.
Do you think lamb is bluffing and town reading him? And if he is not what do you think of Phraze's "lie" ?

Can you elaborate this lie?
Is this about her being Lamby's Day 1 lover but Lamby denied it?

And choosing, I would say I trust Lamby more than Phraze at this moment and I was thinking that as town she is usually more reckless than this. It seems she is very careful, and I think the pressure will help. Nobody is willing to pressure Rinto, so I think I am just voting a useless case for today.

@Ruu do you still believe your meta-read on Phraze?

Vote: Phraze


yes the fact that she said that lamb was her lover and lamb denied it. I do think that as town she is more reckless but I still don't get why would she lie about lamb :/ - what could she gain from it? That's why I can't make up my mind. Still don't know who to believe....

Yes, Phraze is scum for me. And I will examinee Rinto after D2. I'm not liking Sonata's lurking and I would like @Togs to poke her a little :P

@Kit you can't prove you are town in this game because claiming means nothing so I think town and scum would be worry. I wouldn't want to get lynch no matter my alignment.
Feb 20, 2017 2:51 PM

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Kit said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?
I think you guys are wasting effort arguing about it but I don't see anyone else doing anything

So obvious you were voting for grape for your "good luck charm" then just didn't bother moving it. Town can do it, scum can do it. I'd like to see someone's reasons for thinking you're scum over it. But I'd like to see you doing something other than defending yourself today


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Feb 20, 2017 2:53 PM

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Grapefruit21 said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?

I've said it before but defensive scum. Because I can't read you I'm pursuing other reads first. More than happy to consolidate on you if I can't get the lam-b lynch through though.

Also I think I've decided I believe the traitor claim from D1 lover chat. Want to wait and hear back from my D2 lover before divulging who it is though. Reason is I don't believe this person would think they could fool me with that claim into claiming mafia. Plus they floated a possibly unrelated but very strange follow up play when I didn't respond, and acted on it in the thread.

I want opinions on what a traitor would mean for game balance and what town response should be before I say who it is. Because I have a strong opinion on it but want to see others before coloring it with my judgment.


looking forward to this. If the traitor role is real we'll have a confirmed scum. - also look up traitor on wiki mafia ^^
Feb 20, 2017 2:59 PM

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💖 Vote Count 2.7 💖 (Unchanged)
💘 Phraze 💘 (3): 🎀 Kit, Ruu, Claire 🎀
Lam-B (2): 🎀 Oyasumi_Rosie, Grapefruit21 🎀
Oyasumi_Rosie (2): 🎀 Suzune-chan, Lam-B 🎀
Ruu (1): 🎀 Phraze 🎀

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Feb 20, 2017 3:08 PM

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Kit said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Hmm nobody post anything new...

What do all ya'll think about what me and Claire were talking about? Am I over defensive scum or is Claire looking for problems where they don't exist?
I think you guys are wasting effort arguing about it but I don't see anyone else doing anything

So obvious you were voting for grape for your "good luck charm" then just didn't bother moving it. Town can do it, scum can do it. I'd like to see someone's reasons for thinking you're scum over it. But I'd like to see you doing something other than defending yourself today
okay but I have though. What do you think about my interaction post on Lam b? Do you agree with me that their post seeming more defensive, which I call sharp in my post.

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Ruu said:
Grapefruit21 said:

I've said it before but defensive scum. Because I can't read you I'm pursuing other reads first. More than happy to consolidate on you if I can't get the lam-b lynch through though.

Also I think I've decided I believe the traitor claim from D1 lover chat. Want to wait and hear back from my D2 lover before divulging who it is though. Reason is I don't believe this person would think they could fool me with that claim into claiming mafia. Plus they floated a possibly unrelated but very strange follow up play when I didn't respond, and acted on it in the thread.

I want opinions on what a traitor would mean for game balance and what town response should be before I say who it is. Because I have a strong opinion on it but want to see others before coloring it with my judgment.


looking forward to this. If the traitor role is real we'll have a confirmed scum. - also look up traitor on wiki mafia ^^

But it's one we shouldn't lynch till last because they can't kill or communicate. So leaving them alive till we have to lynch scum is reasonable if we're lynching the useful scum. Plus with their voting we'll get hints unless they vote pure town block or go full lurk.

As for Phraze I think they are town because I can't see their scum motivation for lying in their half of the Lam-b/Phraze lying dichotomy. Lam-b's is easy knowing a PR and them staying alive makes them appear town. I can't figure out why town Lam-b would do what they did though because it gives scum so much PR info because they can POE lover chat's that were claimed and they were in to hunt the PR.
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Grapefruit21 said:
Ruu said:


looking forward to this. If the traitor role is real we'll have a confirmed scum. - also look up traitor on wiki mafia ^^

But it's one we shouldn't lynch till last because they can't kill or communicate. So leaving them alive till we have to lynch scum is reasonable if we're lynching the useful scum. Plus with their voting we'll get hints unless they vote pure town block or go full lurk.

As for Phraze I think they are town because I can't see their scum motivation for lying in their half of the Lam-b/Phraze lying dichotomy. Lam-b's is easy knowing a PR and them staying alive makes them appear town. I can't figure out why town Lam-b would do what they did though because it gives scum so much PR info because they can POE lover chat's that were claimed and they were in to hunt the PR.


yes but knowing a confirmed scum helps us with our analysis. The lying part is the only think that makes me think they might be town but I can go on just that. Everything else seems scummy to me. I might change my vote to lamby but for now I'm happy with my choice.

I was townreading Claire but after her defense of lamb I'm having second thoughts, what do you think?
Feb 20, 2017 3:45 PM

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@Ruu having confirmed scum doesn't help with our analysis if they don't know the scum team. Which was the claim they made to me asking if I was scum.

Town can have different reads. Claire's defense of Lam-b seems reasonable. I don't agree with it, but I think I'm looking at the lying thing from a different angle to claire.

@_Claire_ Can you do the same exercise I had Ruu do: run through the Phraze/Lam-b lying dichotomy for each player from each alignment and explain their motivations from each side.
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Grapefruit21 said:
@Ruu having confirmed scum doesn't help with our analysis if they don't know the scum team. Which was the claim they made to me asking if I was scum.

Town can have different reads. Claire's defense of Lam-b seems reasonable. I don't agree with it, but I think I'm looking at the lying thing from a different angle to claire.

@_Claire_ Can you do the same exercise I had Ruu do: run through the Phraze/Lam-b lying dichotomy for each player from each alignment and explain their motivations from each side.


but it's possible that scum knows who they are that's what I was talking about. (so they don't NK by mistake)
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Feb 20, 2017 6:24 PM

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Phraze said:
Lam-B said:


Can't tell to which extent you might be reading my posts.
Off the top of my head I believe I've already made prior statements that I was dead from Fri afternoon until early Sunday morning (those posts were also made at some stupid hour from a mates craptop)
The timing now simply comes down to the fact it's a weekday now, so I'm more likely to remain at home... getting into working my way through the thread came after work, some players more familiar with me could probably confirm this for the most part.
yeah sure. I just don't like how objective you got all of a sudden. doesn't match up with your prev posts.
Tonally, all the posts read as flat. They sound matter a fact and clear cut. This seems different from the earlier energy that was hinted in the day one posts and stands out to me. It is as though they have been scrubbed of that earlier feeling. So very very simply they sound different.

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Personal thought:

This is abridged from the last time I saw it but I edited it for simpleness.
Same, but [any random player] is a really hard to read player, so idk what to think.
I do not understand why we get away with saying things like this. As if this statement says something about the game state. Instead, I would much rather see us discuss what they are like right now as opposed to trying to meta read everyone. It is the desire to meta read people that causes comments like this. I will get off my soapbox now.

Oyasumi_Rosie said:
@Sonata

Yes! I have always agreed with you since the day you mentioned it in Haruhi. It feel very unfair to everyone because there is nothing to go on if the plays aren't very good! Thank you for understanding me now. :3
I have a controversial opinion to this. You can hate me for it, it is fine, I have been criticized for it in other games. Each game is individual. Each moment of each game is that's own. While it might parody a moment from another no situation is exactly the same. Therefore, handwaving something by saying it is like this, or it is the same as that creates a bias. I care not if you are a new player or an old player. I will judge the game based on what has been said in this game using only a little reference from old games as possible. Therefore, because you said something that suggested scum I will push it everytime.

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Feb 20, 2017 6:35 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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Thank you for the hand wave at the bottom, because clearly that is what I am saying.

I am instead blaming you for not leaving a footprint and for just allowing yourself to pass in the dead space into the next phase. Then you drop your little revelation about knowing and consciously choosing to post in the dead space. Which means you are not putting time in to solving the game and are instead allowing it to happen which strikes me as odd.

I will be leaving my vote on you and will instead, observe how the rest of the day goes....

Again ask, you would rather I vote for some who I thought was town? What you have done differently if you thought no one else was scum?

And what about now? I have made post asking questions, giving my thoughts, and voting for people I think is scum. Is what I am doing not worth anything because I didn't and couldn't do it before?
I would rather you not vote at all then. If you can find no one scummy then better you do not vote then vote for someone you think might not be lynched. I would simply not have voted. If I literally had no reads, everyone was true neutral, I would not vote. I cannot say I have been in that situation many times, but it is better to hold my vote on mal because of majority lynch than have my vote manipulated into something later. Therefore, you voted and left it. On a target you did not believe would be lynched. This is not a manipulation, you blatantly told me what it was for. Therefore, I draw your entire day one into question. Why does that bother you? Something to hide? You are acting like a small child with a guilty conscience.

Hard to explain your next question. I guess, I did in my other post. But, I will chase the one that is mafia. One does not lose a demerit for being better later.

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Feb 20, 2017 6:39 PM

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Ruu said:
Phraze said:
this makes sense. do u know how the mafia think?


I've rolled mafia enough times to have an idea on how they would behave. That is something I would do if I was scum. Wouldn't you do the same? Going for the unexpected is always a good move.
You would have killed yourself if you were scum? Then your scum team would have lost. Did I teach you nothing playing scum with me. I was a more likely target.

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Feb 20, 2017 6:48 PM

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I've rolled mafia enough times to have an idea on how they would behave. That is something I would do if I was scum. Wouldn't you do the same? Going for the unexpected is always a good move.
You would have killed yourself if you were scum? Then your scum team would have lost. Did I teach you nothing playing scum with me. I was a more likely target.


what? I think my death would be expected xDD grape's also. Why were you a more likely target?
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@Suzune-chan

I get you now. I don't why you chosen me, but you are making me upset on purpose. You want me to slip up, to get you that tiny bit of info that you are cracving so much that will prove to everyone that I am scum. Sadly there is nothing for me to share since I am not scum.

I am going to try and stop getting mad at you know. You might be scum, you might not. But I am not going to get anywhere with you if I don't have a clear head.

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Ruu said:
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You would have killed yourself if you were scum? Then your scum team would have lost. Did I teach you nothing playing scum with me. I was a more likely target.


what? I think my death would be expected xDD grape's also. Why were you a more likely target?
Okay, since day one ended with a certain deal of chaos with several potential trains started and stopped and there was a push for a new lynch target going into the end. I would describe end of day as chaotic. Therefore, in would be in the mafia's best interest to keep the game state constant in order to keep people guessing. Therefore, killing a low profile target such as myself who was not at phase change would preserve the energy from the last day. Killing Mili eliminated what might happen today. Therefore, it hightened frenzy and made people question there reads. It could also have been used as an attempt to get grapefruit killed through lynch.

Or at least that is my opinion.

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Feb 20, 2017 6:54 PM

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I get you now. I don't why you chosen me, but you are making me upset on purpose. You want me to slip up, to get you that tiny bit of info that you are cracving so much that will prove to everyone that I am scum. Sadly there is nothing for me to share since I am not scum.

I am going to try and stop getting mad at you know. You might be scum, you might not. But I am not going to get anywhere with you if I don't have a clear head.
Honestly, I do not see why you are mad. There is no reason for anyone to be angry here. I am a bit perplexed you want to keep talking about it because had to let it die, I would not have responded back. If you ping me I will always respond that is how I play. Let it die.

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what? I think my death would be expected xDD grape's also. Why were you a more likely target?
Okay, since day one ended with a certain deal of chaos with several potential trains started and stopped and there was a push for a new lynch target going into the end. I would describe end of day as chaotic. Therefore, in would be in the mafia's best interest to keep the game state constant in order to keep people guessing. Therefore, killing a low profile target such as myself who was not at phase change would preserve the energy from the last day. Killing Mili eliminated what might happen today. Therefore, it hightened frenzy and made people question there reads. It could also have been used as an attempt to get grapefruit killed through lynch.

Or at least that is my opinion.


I see... I see you as a valuable player that is hard to read and could be use for a mislynch (if town), that's why I didn't consider the possibility of you being a target.

Since we are talking about mafia's behaviour do you think that their team is active or is another disgarea siituation? (2 active/ 1 ghost)
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Ruu said:
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Okay, since day one ended with a certain deal of chaos with several potential trains started and stopped and there was a push for a new lynch target going into the end. I would describe end of day as chaotic. Therefore, in would be in the mafia's best interest to keep the game state constant in order to keep people guessing. Therefore, killing a low profile target such as myself who was not at phase change would preserve the energy from the last day. Killing Mili eliminated what might happen today. Therefore, it hightened frenzy and made people question there reads. It could also have been used as an attempt to get grapefruit killed through lynch.

Or at least that is my opinion.


I see... I see you as a valuable player that is hard to read and could be use for a mislynch (if town), that's why I didn't consider the possibility of you being a target.

Since we are talking about mafia's behaviour do you think that their team is active or is another disgarea siituation? (2 active/ 1 ghost)


I assume. If I am correct about my earlier prediction that we are looking at one loud voice that protects the team and two lighter voices. As the topic changes little and the groups heads more and more towards a majority.

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@Suzune-chan do you have a leader in mind?
As of this minute. No. I have eliminated a few suspects though. My day 2 lover and I are working on things.

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Okay not much happening other than Rosie getting angry at nothing so here goes.

@Rinto-kun asked me if I was mafia and claimed traitor. I did not respond. They then said to do what I was doing on Ruu. They also placed a vote on Ruu in the thread before removing it. I did not respond.

I initially thought Rinto was trying to bait me into scum claiming. But given Rinto's complete lack of town positive behavior, and the relative weakness of the town investigative role I think having a traitor who doesn't know the team as a third scum makes sense.

Because of this I think we should completely ignore Rinto today, because we can use their vote. If they don't vote as we as town want them to we lynch them tomorrow (unless we find scum for sure). I also think that this means Rinto believes that Ruu is town, though I'm not sure what value this has since they thought I was scum. One more note on Rinto and traitors, one source says that if scum NK's them they become full scum, so if there is no NK we should lynch Rinto tomorrow.

So that paints the game state as follows:
Town
Grape
Mile
Sleip

Claire
Ruu
Kit
Suzu


Phraze
Sonata

Rosie
Lam-b


Rinto

I'm amendable to Phraze or Sonata being lynched but I'd much rather we buckled down and figure which one of Rosie and Lam we are lynching toDay.
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@Sonata you need to post btw. You are well below the mod line right now. I get being busy, I just want to clear up the POE.
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