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Nov 15, 2016 4:53 AM

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Fo said:
Fo's Magical Readslist v2.0

Magical Town:
Fo
Shanashan
Shinichi-Kun
Doughkey
Duos
grrr
Jackrito
coromandel
PentaFlare

Probably the Guardian! Is the Guardian:
Suzune-chan

=(
Karote
Zymf
Ruu

Probably Evil Guys!:
reiynii
Rinto-kun


I'm shocked you still townread grr, I can agree with rest though. Apart from coro is more middle/scum for me.
Nov 15, 2016 4:59 AM

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grrr said:
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The winconditions are public duncecap.


Oops I have missed this. Then aa-dono better confirm if 3rd party wins will the mafia and town both instantly lose?
The game will continue even if TPR won.
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)

Nov 15, 2016 5:02 AM

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WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)

WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)

WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)


Okay, we need to deal with suzune first.
Nov 15, 2016 5:17 AM

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Fo said:

=(
Karote
Zymf
Ruu


Why is Ruu down there? o.o
Nov 15, 2016 5:37 AM

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PentaFlare said:
coromandel said:
I don't think Duos or Shinichi-kun should be lynched today.
Not sure about Grrr since I find it really hard to read him.

I kinda want to vote for Zymf, but he said he wouldn't be online before phase change.


@Pentaflare @Shanashan
Do you think he's lying about his claim? Apparently he's Keroberos.

There are a few things I think about this claim:
Too close to the phase change to redeem them because it can't be cc'ed for sure.
They claimed they can kill people with fire.
It is very vague. A real townie would be better able to specify their role.
The clear scum indicators from earlier on weigh more than a sketchy claim.

Is Duos still on your suspect list? o.o
who are you likely to place your vote today?
Nov 15, 2016 5:38 AM

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4 more pages while i was sleeping >_> ill try to catch up as much as possible before i go to work


Nov 15, 2016 5:41 AM

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This is pretty basic.

So someone claims cop. They claim cop and they claimed to have used it on another person to claim their towniness. Which is silly because why would a cop clear someone like that it is like asking them to die. So the real cop knows that this cop is fake. As long as other lynches continue to get through, the real cop can bide their time until they catch a mafia. By catching a mafia they can reveal the fake and set up not one but two kills. Basically they let you lie until you are so dizzy with it that the entire house of cards comes down.

All stemming from the fact that a cop should never reveal a townie for no reason.

Hmm. I see things a little differently. Most of my mafia experience comes from a community where the meta for most setups is for cop to out all their results on Day X. This is usually day 2 or day 3, and then just PoE the player pool to death. The interest in the games comes when a mafia member counterclaims cop, which happens nearly every game. It become a game of pressuring players to see who is consistent with their explanations and reads on other players outside of the current results.

The other part of this is that I can self-heal so I am not concerned for my safety :P


oh goodie another immunity >_>


Nov 15, 2016 5:42 AM

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Karote said:
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Why are you avoiding her question?


Why not?

waoo.. just saw this again and feel like giving you a clap. you cheat code
if somebody counterclaim you later on i gonna trust another person more than you. you see there is still a hole on yourself after using cheat code? you need to be more active ..
Nov 15, 2016 5:45 AM

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Suzune-chan said:
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Your reason for voting me is because you don't think there is a cop in this setup. You are just making assumptions about the setup with no reason whatsoever. It is no better than rolling a die and guessing that way.
No you are trying to take a PHD in this game. Piling it Higher and Deeper and it makes you look so distrustful. I still think that somewhere in there is a bluff and it is the anchor of your whole case.


i agree with suzune here

plus my own experience with you ik you can create your own perfect role that normally fits the setup pretty well.


Nov 15, 2016 5:47 AM

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Duos needs to shoot penta lol thats my conclusion after reading page 22 cause ijust dont know who or what to believe anymore.


Nov 15, 2016 5:49 AM

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penta if u havent u should claim your favor, still backreading tho so i might come across it


Nov 15, 2016 5:57 AM

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Fo said:
Fo's Magical Readslist v2.0

Magical Town:
Fo
Shanashan
Shinichi-Kun
Doughkey
Duos
grrr
Jackrito
coromandel
PentaFlare

Probably the Guardian! Is the Guardian:
Suzune-chan

=(
Karote
Zymf
Ruu

Probably Evil Guys!:
reiynii
Rinto-kun


I'm not town anymore for you? I even revealed my role ;-;
Karote is also town btw
Nov 15, 2016 5:59 AM

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Fo said:
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@Fo are you asking duos or me?
Duos but if you claimed a character already then let me know what it is because I'm compiling claims.

Matter of fact ...

@Shinichi-Kun
@reyinii
@PentaFlare
@Suzune-chan
@Jackrito
@Zymf
@Rinto-kun
@coromandel
@grrr

If anyone of you guys have claimed then remind me of what you've claimed. Kinda in the mood to break this.
If there's anyway you can think of to somehow let me know what your flavor is; then do so.


no i havent claimed but at most ill onl claim my flavor


Nov 15, 2016 6:04 AM

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grrr said:
WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)

WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)

WhiteBallWithEars said:
It'll be a fight for 2nd place x)


Okay, we need to deal with suzune first.


why first? I think we should go for a scum. We need to kill someone! because I think if we don't mafia will kill one of us on N2.

I don't understand why everyone is convince that you are town....
Nov 15, 2016 6:04 AM

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grrr said:
my barrier ability is not passive. And of course I need help to confirm it.


is it linked to a card because i remember seeing a card that has somehting to do with protection


Nov 15, 2016 6:06 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
penta if u havent u should claim your favor, still backreading tho so i might come across it

Penta claimed she is Li Syaoran

also she said she has roleblock or whatever you call it. too many terms for me to rmb.. so if that is real then Duos's bullet will be wasted lol

can i know who are in your suspect list now? just names is enough bcos i know u need to work lol
feels abit weird when there is no resistance on Rinto at all lol :S
Nov 15, 2016 6:08 AM

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Ruu said:
grrr said:




Okay, we need to deal with suzune first.


why first? I think we should go for a scum. We need to kill someone! because I think if we don't mafia will kill one of us on N2.

I don't understand why everyone is convince that you are town....

lol. i think the only one thinking grrr as town is Fo. others are mostly neutral/scum :s
Nov 15, 2016 6:10 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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my barrier ability is not passive. And of course I need help to confirm it.


is it linked to a card because i remember seeing a card that has somehting to do with protection


maybe


I say we lynch rin today and ask Kero ( I don't remember what user has this role) to use his powers on Suzu. She dies we can win first place and we finally confirmed Penta.


Edit: wrong person lol
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Nov 15, 2016 6:13 AM

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Fo said:
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They are my prime suspect, especially after their no-show today. Still want to kill Grrr the most though. And yet my vote lay on Rinto~
I appreciate the support!
The thing about rinto is, I think that scum have a silencer ability. Because that seems like it would be an attack right? So Day 1 we weren't silenced by cards.

And rinto starting off with that moon card looks bad.
But maybe I'm guessing the setup and understanding things wrong I dunno this game is complex asf.

If you reread the end of day 1, though. A lot of telling things happen. And scum probably wanted to lynch duos cuz his role is bad news for scum. And fire fits well with cerberus. So I trust duos to probably be town.

The peeps who voted grrr were probably mostly cool.


im thinking someone is silenced this phase cause rinto and reiynii both havent posted right? Tho still catching up so ill see.


Nov 15, 2016 6:13 AM

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Shanashan said:
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penta if u havent u should claim your favor, still backreading tho so i might come across it

Penta claimed she is Li Syaoran

also she said she has roleblock or whatever you call it. too many terms for me to rmb.. so if that is real then Duos's bullet will be wasted lol

can i know who are in your suspect list now? just names is enough bcos i know u need to work lol
feels abit weird when there is no resistance on Rinto at all lol :S


i think hes silenced.


Nov 15, 2016 6:14 AM

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Shanashan said:
Shinichi-Kun said:
penta if u havent u should claim your favor, still backreading tho so i might come across it

Penta claimed she is Li Syaoran

also she said she has roleblock or whatever you call it. too many terms for me to rmb.. so if that is real then Duos's bullet will be wasted lol

can i know who are in your suspect list now? just names is enough bcos i know u need to work lol
feels abit weird when there is no resistance on Rinto at all lol :S


ok thank you shan <3

Did anyone cc him?


Nov 15, 2016 6:15 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Shanashan said:

Penta claimed she is Li Syaoran

also she said she has roleblock or whatever you call it. too many terms for me to rmb.. so if that is real then Duos's bullet will be wasted lol

can i know who are in your suspect list now? just names is enough bcos i know u need to work lol
feels abit weird when there is no resistance on Rinto at all lol :S


i think hes silenced.


nvm i just caught up to him posting XD


Nov 15, 2016 6:16 AM

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Ruu said:

I say we lynch rin today and ask @PentaFlare to use his powers on Suzu. She dies we can win first place and we finally confirmed Penta.

Why Suzu tho. she is just a third party.
There are other better candidates to be experimented on..
why are you agreeing with grrr to do Suzu first when you don't trust grrr :S

tho i don't think it will be that easy lol :| when you see how N1 ended with no kill. means there were protective kind of thing around which could block reads and kills or etc blabla


Edited and will post in next post bcos Ruu edited the names lollll
Nov 15, 2016 6:17 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
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Yeah. That is nice. If I still have this I'll probably just keep using it to roleblock Duos over and over again so I don't get shot. Fire sounds like it might go through my protection. The other option is to get a PoE pool small enough that I can Roleblock two of them while we lynch the other.

^pretty scummy if you ask me...


i gotta agree with rinto here.

Cause if penta is actually who he say he is then he should be roleblocking his scum reads not the damn vigilante of sorts.


Nov 15, 2016 6:17 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Shanashan said:

Penta claimed she is Li Syaoran

also she said she has roleblock or whatever you call it. too many terms for me to rmb.. so if that is real then Duos's bullet will be wasted lol

can i know who are in your suspect list now? just names is enough bcos i know u need to work lol
feels abit weird when there is no resistance on Rinto at all lol :S


i think hes silenced.


he can't be.
Nov 15, 2016 6:18 AM

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Shanashan said:
Ruu said:

I say we lynch rin today and ask @PentaFlare to use his powers on Suzu. She dies we can win first place and we finally confirmed Penta.

Why Suzu tho. she is just a third party.
There are other better candidates to be experimented on..
why are you agreeing with grrr to do Suzu first when you don't trust grrr :S

tho i don't think it will be that easy lol :| when you see how N1 ended with no kill. means there were protective kind of thing around which could block reads and kills or etc blabla


because is sad getting second place lol
Nov 15, 2016 6:19 AM

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Jackrito said:
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I no longer suspect shinishi but I will keep my vote on him because of my fortune card bonus. I have no problems with lynch on rinto.


Now I know your scum you always suspect Shinichi no matter what.


thats the dumbest reasoning ever jack lol


Nov 15, 2016 6:20 AM

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Ruu said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


is it linked to a card because i remember seeing a card that has somehting to do with protection


maybe


I say we lynch rin today and ask Kero ( I don't remember what user has this role) to use his powers on Suzu. She dies we can win first place and we finally confirmed Penta.


Edit: wrong person lol

tho i don't think it will be that easy lol :| when you see how N1 ended with no kill. means there were protective kind of thing around which could block kills or etc blabla

if you gonna rely on this experiment to believe Duos and let's say Duos uses his ability on someone with blocking ability then Duos will straight away get scumread LOL
Nov 15, 2016 6:21 AM

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u guys are putting too much trust in penta and suzune just saying lol

Also the fact that so many people are on rinto's wagon worries me alot.


Nov 15, 2016 6:23 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:


Did anyone cc him?

uhmm what is cc? lol
after i typed that the word counter claim came to my mind so it is that i guess

nop, nobody counterclaim yet. you can start reading from here if you interested.
Nov 15, 2016 6:24 AM

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coromandel said:
@suzune-chan
how were you able to check the cards of 3 players, when it's only day 2?

i'm still suspicious of you - it's possible that the guardian isn't even in the game and you're mafia instead.


oh i didnt even think of this

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Shanashan said:

but i really did received a message that someone checked on me. how do you explain that then? asking bcos im the one who received the message so it makes me hard to believe she is not cop unless it is possible for mafia to have an ability to poke me saying someone checking on me or etc...? :|


A mafia cop is a actual thing as well, they are normally roles cops so can learn a person's role. It is rare for a cop to have a way to prove they checked someone and seems a bit strange as town it gives too much confirmation, which is not needed since claims are so easy already because of flavor.

If I was a host I would more likely give it to mafia to trick people. The added confirmation with Penta's ablity to selfheal and RB mixed in with his 2 fortune cards which benefit only him. It just seems so unbalanced so rest of town would need to suck,Or mafia have some great skills in play but if so I doubt they would mess up a night kill.

I may just be a bit biased as well since Penta loves a fake claim and done it as cop in other games. But paranoia is my forte Look at it this way he was under mass pressure but now is clear it all just seems too easy. This been said I have others I want gone first before I lynch a potential cop.


Thats what im trying to saying penta is like the master of disguise he knows no one ever bats an eye at his claims ecept a select few.


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Shanashan said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Did anyone cc him?

uhmm what is cc? lol
after i typed that the word counter claim came to my mind so it is that i guess

nop, nobody counterclaim yet. you can start reading from here if you interested.


serously how are their no counter claims what is going on.


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Announcement
Zymf requested replacement.
Looking for one atm

Nov 15, 2016 6:31 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Shanashan said:

uhmm what is cc? lol
after i typed that the word counter claim came to my mind so it is that i guess

nop, nobody counterclaim yet. you can start reading from here if you interested.


serously how are their no counter claims what is going on.


Most likely because it is either their real roles, or scum know the roles not in play so are just picking them. The more claims they are the more I think the scum have safe claims.
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Announcement
Zymf requested replacement.
Looking for one atm


>.>

new user to scum read >.>
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Jackrito said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


serously how are their no counter claims what is going on.


Most likely because it is either their real roles, or scum know the roles not in play so are just picking them. The more claims they are the more I think the scum have safe claims.


Syaoran is one the main characters that's why I don't think the host decided not to use it :/ Also I think is weird that, if they created a 3rd party why wouldn't they use it?
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Ruu said:
Jackrito said:


Most likely because it is either their real roles, or scum know the roles not in play so are just picking them. The more claims they are the more I think the scum have safe claims.


Syaoran is one the main characters that's why I don't think the host decided not to use it :/ Also I think is weird that, if they created a 3rd party why wouldn't they use it?


Stuff like this is what hosts can do, I explained this earlier on but if a host wants to make something like this they will sometimes do stuff like not use main characters to mess with players.
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Shinichi-Kun said:


Also the fact that so many people are on rinto's wagon worries me alot.


I want to lynch grrr but nobody wants to join the wagon ;-;
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Ruu said:
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Also the fact that so many people are on rinto's wagon worries me alot.


I want to lynch grrr but nobody wants to join the wagon ;-;


I'm fine with either, why do you think Rinto is more town then grr? Both have been pretty bad and offering nothing.
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as i reread and the way the train built so fast on Rinto made me feel like i want to think twice ..

do you guys think the indecisiveness during the phase change that Rinto is behaving is town-ish? by following the flow and looks confused like that. (at least i haven't seen a scum behaving like that yet, so i feel the panic is pretty real in town way lol)

❧ Rinto-kun ☙ - #24 Shinichi (RVS) -> Unvote -> #573 Duos -> #578 Unvote -> #590 Duos -> #608 (wanted to vote grrr but then phase had changed)

#573 – voted Duos and ask if anybody want to counterclaim Duos and said: “I just hope I haven't made the wrong decision. ;_;”
#578 – unvoted Duos bcos Coromandel said Rinto shouldn't do that when Duos had claimed.
#590 – then voted Duos again with weak reason but then i think it is actually pretty town? lol..*headslam*. His reason was: “I'm already pretty doubtful on everything that happened this past day phase. I want to test Duos' claim. If he is right and has double voting power, he'll save himself, if not he'd have lied. Also in the case if he's right, we will have a (almost) confirmed town and no-lynch which is the best case scenario. Then again I don't like risking >_<”
#608 - wanted to change vote again maybe bcos Shinichi suggests Duos should be town bcos it is too risky to claim a scummy ability. (but he was too late to switch.) coincidence or purposely idk..

but then the way he confuse who to vote feels pretty town? lol.. *headslam*
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Ruu said:
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Also the fact that so many people are on rinto's wagon worries me alot.


I want to lynch grrr but nobody wants to join the wagon ;-;

may i know who else are in your suspect list? o.o
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I just want to burn two or three for playing dense. I'm giving out good information, literally, but it's going over their heads. I really want to burn them.

which part of information that you gave are good which i haven't realized yet? o_O
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@Jackrito I think they are buddies. I really don't care who dies first but I'm scared that if we don't kill grrr today he will kill me during the night ;-;

@Shanashan Rinto, grrr

I still need to find the 3rd scum but I think penta will be on the list soon.
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I just want to burn two or three for playing dense. I'm giving out good information, literally, but it's going over their heads. I really want to burn them.

Can you burn Penta please >_>

may i know why would you suggest to burn Penta here? when she had not appeared in your suspect list previously and (if my memory didn't fail me) you didn't mention her name before this too

Edit: to attach your readlist during the last few hours of phase change - here
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Shanashan said:
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I want to lynch grrr but nobody wants to join the wagon ;-;

may i know who else are in your suspect list? o.o


My list atm is Rinto/grr both are on a similar level atm, then zymf comes after he is getting replaced though so I want to feel out replacement, Reynii and then coro.

Suzune needs to die somewhere in this as well we still don't know how anti town they are.

After that I go into my distrust on Penta, Duos and Karote, but they come later down the line though we need more info before I push on them more.
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@Jackrito I think they are buddies. I really don't care who dies first but I'm scared that if we don't kill grrr today he will kill me during the night ;-;

@Shanashan Rinto, grrr

I still need to find the 3rd scum but I think penta will be on the list soon.


Why would he kill you?

What are your thoughts on Reynii, coro and zymf,
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Jackrito said:
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@Jackrito I think they are buddies. I really don't care who dies first but I'm scared that if we don't kill grrr today he will kill me during the night ;-;

@Shanashan Rinto, grrr

I still need to find the 3rd scum but I think penta will be on the list soon.


Why would he kill you?

What are your thoughts on Reynii, coro and zymf,


because I'm trying to lynch him? :/

I'm reading Reynii's posts at the moment. I will tell you in a bit :P

zymf asked for a replacement so I think I'm going to wait for the new rep before deciding - neutral for now

Did coro claimed something? I can't remember. @Fo read him as town idk why... - I will also read his posts later.
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may i know who else are in your suspect list? o.o


My list atm is Rinto/grr both are on a similar level atm, then zymf comes after he is getting replaced though so I want to feel out replacement, Reynii and then coro.

Suzune needs to die somewhere in this as well we still don't know how anti town they are.

After that I go into my distrust on Penta, Duos and Karote, but they come later down the line though we need more info before I push on them more.
I am merely an independent, not anti town.

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Ruu said:
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Also the fact that so many people are on rinto's wagon worries me alot.


I want to lynch grrr but nobody wants to join the wagon ;-;


Is this related to your fortune / ability? or personal ?
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Shinichi-Kun said:
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my barrier ability is not passive. And of course I need help to confirm it.


is it linked to a card because i remember seeing a card that has somehting to do with protection


It is my ability not my card. I am not aware of a card directly related to my ability but I dont know the cards so who knows. By the way I have not used any cards and currently I own no cards.
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