_Claire_ said: Crossbell said: Yeah, I am. I think there's a good chance that I'm wrong somewhere though as I think there is scum on the Beeboy wagon. If anything, I would say Pentaflare or Soren is scum. Pentaflare seems like he has a lead from aa-dono but we don't know if Pentaflare is bluffing or not. I couldn't imagine him bluffing like this in Day 2, I remember he did it in Harry Potter game but it was because he was desperate as a scum. If he truly is scum, I dont think he will play this way in this game. I think we should give this lead some merit. I think Soren is town personally the case he did on Shinchi even though he was town was something I don't think Soren would do as scum and he appears to have an active intrest and questioning people maybe a bit narrow minded at times but that is just me. I feel a lot less strong on Penta this is not his scum game, but I know he is changing it a bit some of his actions in day one worry me and how he suspected someone with no vote then left is as well I have a slight idea why though I want to see what he says when he comes back. |
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aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: So he was null? Well no, it is an opinion since it alerts the rest of the players that people may be tunnelling into their bias (like me). I just find that you are being inconfident with voicing your thoughts and asking a lot of questions to "look busy" in retrospect. I ask questions because I ask questions :/ If I'm confident, I would try to get everyone to vote with me. So not gonna defend my confidence. Labelling huh... Can't really say he's a null because my opinion on him jump up and down. But he's not town or scum so if you need a label, yes he was null then. It's more like I ask questions after questions, and then Karote posts showed up. I focused on him, but his defense made me think he might not be scum, so I dropped it. And then the train on Bee-boy happened and I noticed Penta's vote. So I was hoping that everyone was right, and Bee-boy was scum, and Penta be town to me so that I could vote for him as captain. Well, that goes down the drain. Can I ask you why the votes only in itself that determines your confidence in figuring out a player's alignment? What about the activity that each player is making to find the answers, probing approaches, pressure, questioning/interrogating, etc.? Also why is it that only by the Bee-Boy vote that Penta would be town to you, what about Lamby, Jack, me, Soren, Kaito before he died, if he had flipped as scum? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: I ask questions because I ask questions :/ If I'm confident, I would try to get everyone to vote with me. So not gonna defend my confidence. Labelling huh... Can't really say he's a null because my opinion on him jump up and down. But he's not town or scum so if you need a label, yes he was null then. It's more like I ask questions after questions, and then Karote posts showed up. I focused on him, but his defense made me think he might not be scum, so I dropped it. And then the train on Bee-boy happened and I noticed Penta's vote. So I was hoping that everyone was right, and Bee-boy was scum, and Penta be town to me so that I could vote for him as captain. Well, that goes down the drain. Can I ask you why the votes only in itself that determines your confidence in figuring out a player's alignment? What about the activity that each player is making to find the answers, probing approaches, pressure, questioning/interrogating, etc.? Also why is it that only by the Bee-Boy vote that Penta would be town to you, what about Lamby, Jack, me, Soren, Kaito before he died, if he had flipped as scum? All of you will still do that even when you're scum. :/ I explained why I thought Penta would be town if Bee-boy flipped scum. You commented on that. Don't go forgetting it~ I think activity=fun game. Not activity=alignment Same goes for effort. |
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Jackrito said: Do you think he will explain it? Do you want him to explain it? Is there some sort of expectation attached?_Claire_ said: If anything, I would say Pentaflare or Soren is scum. Pentaflare seems like he has a lead from aa-dono but we don't know if Pentaflare is bluffing or not. I couldn't imagine him bluffing like this in Day 2, I remember he did it in Harry Potter game but it was because he was desperate as a scum. If he truly is scum, I dont think he will play this way in this game. I think we should give this lead some merit. I think Soren is town personally the case he did on Shinchi even though he was town was something I don't think Soren would do as scum and he appears to have an active intrest and questioning people maybe a bit narrow minded at times but that is just me. I feel a lot less strong on Penta this is not his scum game, but I know he is changing it a bit some of his actions in day one worry me and how he suspected someone with no vote then left is as well I have a slight idea why though I want to see what he says when he comes back. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: Do you think he will explain it? Do you want him to explain it? Is there some sort of expectation attached?I think Soren is town personally the case he did on Shinchi even though he was town was something I don't think Soren would do as scum and he appears to have an active intrest and questioning people maybe a bit narrow minded at times but that is just me. I feel a lot less strong on Penta this is not his scum game, but I know he is changing it a bit some of his actions in day one worry me and how he suspected someone with no vote then left is as well I have a slight idea why though I want to see what he says when he comes back. I feel he will, but they is a reaosn why he did not straight away, won't say because it ruins the intent of what he is doing. I like what he has done though if I'm right. |
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aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Can I ask you why the votes only in itself that determines your confidence in figuring out a player's alignment? What about the activity that each player is making to find the answers, probing approaches, pressure, questioning/interrogating, etc.? Also why is it that only by the Bee-Boy vote that Penta would be town to you, what about Lamby, Jack, me, Soren, Kaito before he died, if he had flipped as scum? All of you will still do that even when you're scum. :/ I explained why I thought Penta would be town if Bee-boy flipped scum. You commented on that. Don't go forgetting it~ I think activity=fun game. Not activity=alignment Same goes for effort. Hmm yes but why JUST Penta is the point being driven here. Also, are saying you are scum reading all of us except Soren? If so, why have you not casted your vote yet so you can dig deeper? Activity is null. But effort put in the game should still giving you clues on the alignment since effort should lead to quality posts filled with game thoughts. If you want to know what I think, I think you are hesitating on pointing figures and I want to know WHY you are. |
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Transience said: Hello everyone~ I hope the game is going well and that we have fun c: This is my first game in a closed setup o.o Also, is it still day (as the op says)? Isn't phase change at 00:00 GMT+8? Welcome, enjoy the read-fest. |
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Soren said: @Transience hey, you replaced togs, there was a really heated debated that got very personal which lead to togs getting really angry and claimed scum, then he never showed up anymore after that. What do you got to say for yourself? Really? |
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SightlessReality said: hail, this is your Captain speaking. How goes the journey? Oh Captain please lead us to glory and destroy the evil in our crew. You better anyway since you have the power now. |
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_Claire_ said: One at a time.Soren said: Everyone sign your posts with a mention to magicalofmagic. We're going to annoy her to the point that she will have to play the game. @magicalofmagic Soren, why just magical? How about deepinthelair and Togs? |
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_Claire_ said: You have scum reads but are not pressuring them nor voting them. Why?Crossbell said: Yeah, I am. I think there's a good chance that I'm wrong somewhere though as I think there is scum on the Beeboy wagon. If anything, I would say Pentaflare or Soren is scum. Pentaflare seems like he has a lead from aa-dono but we don't know if Pentaflare is bluffing or not. I couldn't imagine him bluffing like this in Day 2, I remember he did it in Harry Potter game but it was because he was desperate as a scum. If he truly is scum, I dont think he will play this way in this game. I think we should give this lead some merit. |
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Soren said: Hmm, I haven't read all of what happened yet Actually, I'm still on page 1 :c. The only thing I've got to say is that I'm most definitely town.@Transience hey, you replaced togs, there was a really heated debated that got very personal which lead to togs getting really angry and claimed scum, then he never showed up anymore after that. What do you got to say for yourself? |
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Transience said: The need to stress the fact that you are town highly suggests a guilty conscience and therefore you must be scum. I caught scum once simply because they said "I am definitely definitely definitely not mafia". Your predecessor claimed scum and your actions only reinforces that claim. Soren said: Hmm, I haven't read all of what happened yet Actually, I'm still on page 1 :c. The only thing I've got to say is that I'm most definitely town.@Transience hey, you replaced togs, there was a really heated debated that got very personal which lead to togs getting really angry and claimed scum, then he never showed up anymore after that. What do you got to say for yourself? Vote: Transience |
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Soren said: @Transience hey, you replaced togs, there was a really heated debated that got very personal which lead to togs getting really angry and claimed scum, then he never showed up anymore after that. What do you got to say for yourself? Now both have replied to this and so the trap won't work, can you stop pulling this stuff it is really unfair on new players by trying to catch them off guard, It is not scum hunting it is just a cheap way to get info and not something I'm a fan of. |
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Soren said: Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_-Transience said: The need to stress the fact that you are town highly suggests a guilty conscience and therefore you must be scum. I caught scum once simply because they said "I am definitely definitely definitely not mafia".Hmm, I haven't read all of what happened yet Actually, I'm still on page 1 :c. The only thing I've got to say is that I'm most definitely town. Vote: Transience He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Possibility of both, but I'd say the first one is more common than the 2nd. It would depend on the make up of the scum team on how they choose to do their night kills WIFOM applied here won't necessarily give us concrete reasoning, so take this idea as a grain of salt. I already know what Penta/Jack as killers would probably do, and they would go for the more inactives to give town the least information. Yay! Another day phase another accusation. God I love this. Jokes aside nope I am not mafia and I would nott kill Izaya even if I was. My first choice would be an experienced player. I know Izaya is experienced but the fact that he protected me would put me at the spot light that is why I would kill an experienced player that would not bring attention to me. I would find 3 players dangerous this game if I was mafia 1- Soren 2- Izaya 3- Jackrito Izaya is out of question since he protected and suspected me. Soren is a no go either since I always vote him but I might have gone with that too since that would be a WIFOM situation I could play around with. Then again the most obvious choice would be Jack since he is so good at catching scum I am sure that I would not be able to hide long with him in the game especially considering our last games together. Back to the subject no I did not kill Izaya and I would kill Jack if I was mafia. |
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Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum fabricating a reaction. Soren said: Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_-The need to stress the fact that you are town highly suggests a guilty conscience and therefore you must be scum. I caught scum once simply because they said "I am definitely definitely definitely not mafia". Vote: Transience He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. |
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Soren said: Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum.Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_- He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. Soren said: Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum.Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_- He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. Soren said: Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum.Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_- He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. Soren said: Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum.Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_- He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. Soren said: Excuse me? What are you even talking about in here? I do know how to react - I claim town, which is what I am.Transience said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum.Seriously? How else am I supposed to react when someone who probably wasn't thinking straight and was maybe even angry at town (considering the argument was heated but then again, I haven't really read what went on), claims scum? -_- He set out to ruin the game and his plan is working ._. This is a very pointless conversation, and I have no idea why you're dragging it Soren. No one in their right mind would ever claim scum. Of course there are exceptions, like when the person in question is a jester (in which case, I'd try and get you to kill me, which is not what I'm doing rn), or when the end of the game is near and the mafia get to benefit from teaming up with a third party or so (which is not where we're at). |
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Transience said: Good. Your response is level headed, stands your ground and doesn't show me that you are a worried scum. I was slightly town reading you from your second response but wanted to push it a bit further to see if your mindset remains consistent or if it falters in order to verify that slight town read. The former is evident here, which strengthens my initial town impression on you.Soren said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum. Soren said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum. Soren said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum. Soren said: Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum. Soren said: Excuse me? What are you even talking about in here? I do know how to react - I claim town, which is what I am.Not knowing how to react tells me that you are caught scum. This is a very pointless conversation, and I have no idea why you're dragging it Soren. No one in their right mind would ever claim scum. Of course there are exceptions, like when the person in question is a jester (in which case, I'd try and get you to kill me, which is not what I'm doing rn), or when the end of the game is near and the mafia get to benefit from teaming up with a third party or so (which is not where we're at). |
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| Installment # 2 aa-dono said: I skimmed through the pages and from what I read, almost everyone is leaning to town? Jackrito said: Unvote Shinchi-kun He is coming across as a lot more honest and giving his actual thoughts on the game and even willing to vote people he is whiteknights sort of worried how easy he turned on Kasai a person he says gets lynched too much but Kasai does not help his case. Either way I like this approuch from him and I can only see it from a townie Shinchi since I doubt he could fake this well. I need to think on this before I vote , they are too many people not doing enough which makes this a lot harder then it should be I don't want to be stuck in a cycle of looking at actives while scum lurk safely. Sadly I will be at work until phase change, so I can't go into the depth of reread I would normally, but I will try my best to be active when I can but this will not be my best and sorry for that. During the night I will do a proper reread on day one and collect m thoughts and give a readlist then. When you remove your vote, Claire becomes the only leading vote. Do you think Shinichi is more genuine than Claire? ----- @Karote What I get from #808 and #810 is that you speak to more people when you're town so that you could get a read on them but when you're mafia, your posts are mostly replies and justifications. I don't understand how relevant the comparison to Claire came into play here. A naked unvote does not imply he won't use his vote again on someone else. aa-dono said: Also, Crossbell train was dissolve before he returns to the game. If Crossbell is mafia, -> Someone on his earlier train is scum together -> jumped in and out to avoid association? Sounds like info to dish out, why not vote Crossbell to confirm this yourself? aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: I'll vouch for Lamby here but is not abnormal coming from him. His playstyle is vastly different, and difficult to get a grasp on since he prides himself on being subtle about it. But from what I saw from his scum game, he sure is hell good at replicating his town game. -_- Are you vouching his playstyle or making him suspicious? I was pushing on a null here. aa-dono said: Jackrito said: He's leaning scum to me. (replies and justification)I would say both ae pretty genuine in their actions or at least appear to be. I would not like either to be lynched at the moment since I feel they are better options elsewhere. Out of the two though I would pick Claire since Shinchi is looking at the game as a whole more and actiely scumhunting and giving reasons for what he thinks. while Claire just comes off as paranoid and scared which can come from either town or scum. I like the way they are not scared to ask questions with both Karote and Kasai who were both not that active before. Intresting outlook on Karote by the way. which do yoU think he is doing this game? I'm backreading 17 to 1 and when I'm bored 1 to 17 so I've only seen him react to Claire in much later pages. I don't know if he probed anyone before reacting to Claire. Still, I remember Karote from my first game (UAS) and he likes to call out players that others don't give attention to. Gonna check if he has done that. Your vote still on RVS, why hesitate on the commitment, why did you wait to cast your vote here? aa-dono said: Jackrito said: He did not react to anything mostly posted fluff from memory until pushed by Claire and I think he overreacted personally, He has not called out anyone from memory either so I need to recheck this.I really don't like how many early town reads he got imo since I think he got strong town reads far too easy. Early town reads = strong town reads? What do you think about Soul then? You didn't give Shinichi a town read that quick but you were all yes yes with Soul. Do you read her posts as town? I don't see how asking this question was important since you already knew the answer to it based on commentary. Again lack of your own thoughts here. These questions should have been answered from your own end as well, imo. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: #292 One of the evidence that people are trusting Soren, Pentaflare and Jack out of nowhere. It is even written in bold that he has no concrete evidence but he still thinks they are town. #307 #307 Soren pushing into Shinichi. If I remember correctly, afterwards Soren also pushed Shinichi’s lynch, I wonder if he is a 3rd party. His play reminds me of Exe’s game in skype mafia even though it is probably not reliable since this isn’t skype mafia lol. #313 “so town-aligned” when I cant see yet what makes Soren so “town-aligned”…. #2 evidence for trusting the veterans. #319 Are you reading everyone as town? He has not yet posted anything, a null-read is the best you could get. You read Queen as scum but read him as town…? At this point, of course. #322 Bee-boy, the three musketeers veterans are at the top list. Jack I could understand from his posts and such but Soren, has not actually provided anything (even now). I have not played much with Soren in the past, and I remember in HP game he was town and he didn’t say much either until he was pressured later on.. I am not going to meta-read veterans though, I know it is going to be baseless to use that against a veteran. Soren’s attitude right now makes me think he could be walking a bit tad too “carefully” in this game. 322 …. Really? I thin you are Bee-boy are agreeing together in a lot of things, I wonder. 361 Just making sure, are you town-reading someone based on whether he is agreeing with you or not? So if Penta is playing differently and not playing according to your view, you will deem him scummy? Soren asked, he still has not commented anything yet. 629 To be fair, from all people youre listing, Soren does not actually engage as much and being critical as much. I would say from all, Queen is the one I am pretty sure is town at this point because of her contribution and also her meta-play. For one, Queen’s meta does not change I don’t know why you guys keep on saying this… She is playing her usual town-self. I cannot understand your deepinthelair reasoning, also you are agreeing too much with Beeboy, I don’t know why this makes me cautious for some reason. 632 Rather than “I don’t know how to read Claire” I think it is better to read me rather than, you know. Voting for me because Pentaflare says my meta is the same as the one I played as a mafia. Also later on you are agreeing with Queen’s explanation of me, decided to unvote me and such. This reminds me of that one game when Arrisu was a mafia, and she was just complying with everything. Vote him? Yes. Vote her? Yep. (insert a read here) oh ya I think so too! – I get this kind of attitude from you. To be fair up until now, I cannot remember much of your own contribution, rather it is just agreeing with opinions and throwing one or two new sentences. Edit: I was doing the messed up linking >.> With all these, are you still going to stay your pressure vote on Kasai? You don't like townread on Penta or Soren. Are you suspecting Crossbell and Beeboy for their reads? More questions on irrelevant matters from your scum read. why not take the time to pursue your scum read? aa-dono said: Vote Karote First vote on Soul, prompted by Beeboy (If Karote's scum, I doubt Bee-boy would flip scum as well) Then questioned Shinichi for a bit. Then he went all Claire. A bit late with this vote. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: First of all, Soren has not posted that much. If anything, I should say he is slightly scummy because of him pushing on Shinichi's lynch even later on. Need to be noted that I would rather say he is leaning towards 3rd party role rather than scum. Not enough to raise my alertness atm. Jack is more leaning towards town, but I should not trust him too much, but at this point it is not enough to read him badly. He is playing like his usual game in Lucian's game where he was town, even though I haven't seen him playing scum yet. He has been actively asking questions to different people and giving his own opinions in general. I dont have objection that some people are townreading him, but problem is in this game many are so sure of him being town. I would say Penta has a good contributions to the game, including him meta-reading me. As a player who meta-read a lot, I could get it when someone's meta-play changes and such. I know as a scum he is very good, and that is why I cannot read him. He keeps on saying his townread is weak and such, but this can just be a reason. Another is, I think Penta only pressures those who he is voting. He does not ask questions of people in "general" as in everyone. That is what I am feeling. I couldn't read Penta though clearly, for some reason I couldnt remember how he plays in forum mafia. I am not saying that we need to be very weary of them. I am just saying, before town-reading them, could you guys please give a reason why. Not just giving town-credit in day 1 for nothing, and not even try to pressure them at all. I dont remember when one of them is even pressured. To be fair, I couldn't remember a game where one of them is pressured day 1. Are you townreading Penta here? Again she moves away from her scum read and asking more questions, oh the sense of urgency before deadline is still not here. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: His last vote is on Lamby. If I recall right, he's the first to vote Lamb. Can you still say he's sheeping?I think I have already commented directly on that. I said that he should read my posts properly. Anyway, after rereading and looking through, one person has caught my attention the most. Vote: Crossbell Bee-boy too, to be honest, but Crossbell is.. well.. too much agreeing. And he only likes people who have similar views of him. Sheeping vote and changing vote also looks like he is following certain people. Defending Crossbell instead of pursuing her scum read again. Why are you making your scum read so quiet in the thread? aa-dono said: Karote said: Oh right. Misa misa. You weren't town D:Then you must have remembered that I was 3rd party in that game too. I only did it to seem town, lol. Well, I remember you call out to others coz you're the first to vote me out of the blue >///< Anyway, what do you think of players that townread you very quickly? There's no pressure when questioning her scum read. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: I dont have clear idea of Penta atm. He can be a really good scum pretending to be a good townie. You should know I am totally paranoid of Penta, I know how well he does as mafia so no comment on absolutely what I think of him atm. After day 2-3 I should know better of his alignment. First he sheeps me because of Penta's comment on my meta change. He was like "oh yeah i agree with you. Think so too" and then he unvotes me because Queen seems to be persuading him. He doesnt seem like someone who knows what he is thinking and just following around. I feel like he does not want to be directly related to someone, in case it is used against him. You're paranoid of everyone. I can understand that though I don't have that high level of paranoia. I think Crossbell play is similar to his play in Angelbeats. He was certain in voting me then because Ari provided my meta (which was wrong anyway) and he believes in his strong townreads, I'm not surprised that he changes vote. Why do you think he settle his vote on Lamby? @Crossbell Also, when you started to post, you said you want to hear more from seemingly-innocent me. Did you back away from that thought? Sounds like you are town-reading Crossbell, and even defending them here. But does not like their vote on Lamby for whatever reason. Were you trying to fish for a town read on Claire by asking why she lost interest in you? Also when you did this post what was your read on Claire here? aa-dono said: Jackrito said: I would agree on this since I don't have the time to look into it in more detail either as said before. if you can back it up however I may lynch her but this stuff is what she does when town hate people been town read it is beyond annoying she mistrusts vets more then Shinchi and hates me espically. They are a lot of examples of this in past games. On lynches today I'm not sure they are a lot of null reads still who would be a wasteful lynch. If I was going to lynch anyone now it would be Kasai since that would give good info in my view on others, but i feel like this is too easy of a lynch and I feel he is town his actions do make sense in sone was but maybe i just feel guilt because i lynch him too much. I would also consider Cross. I feel cross is been a lot more passive then normal. I know he prefers to Townread then scum but he just feels off this game compared to his other games imo. I feel like he is just giving out town reads for the sake of it at times. Beeboy is another intesting one because they pushed Queen a lot in my view and I feel it was more them twisting stuff to make her scummy then actual normal scum hunting. I also don't like how much he wants you or him to be captain so his flip gives me info on you. Since I'm really not sure on you at the moment you are making sense but I feel like you are tunneling people too hard and not looking more widely. I really need to do that reread since I have little to back these views up currently but just the way I feel gut I suppose. This phase change really sucks for me and I wish they was more people here. What info will you get from Kasai? Do you mean to say that if Beeboy is mafia, then Penta is too? More questions, no analysis was made here. aa-dono said: Jackrito said: It gives me a bit of info based off the trains at the start of the game and anyone that has defended him so far. Also the people who vote him if they had good reason or not. If Beeboy is mafia it increases Penta's chances because he has defended him a lot and even wanted him to be captain, but wanted no one else If they were both mafia, why would he be so bold as to do that? This makes me feel that if one is scum, the other is not. I see. This makes sense to your recent post now. aa-dono said: Gonna read up on Crossbell. Tbh, I don't get what you meant by passive. I think he plays like how he did when he was town. The only thing about his vote that I'm curious of is the vote on Lamb. Crossbell seemed to believe his townreads but even when Soul vouched for Lamby, he didn't remove his vote. You make comment on the meta here, but you mentioned that you don't like to use meta. What's with the change? Are you scum reading Crossbell here? Do you still scum read him if you are? aa-dono said: You shouldn't have a guilty on anyone yet at that point. Even so you didn't remove your rvs vote until: Were you just trying to get off Crossbell train? Why? Why would you list Crossbell in acceptable vote if you don't find him guilty? (I'm assuming guilty=scummy) SO much interest in Crossbell here, it's almost like you have a crush on him. I'm also getting wish-washy dancing around Crossbell one moment you are suspicious/interested, the other seems like you are defending him. aa-dono said: Crossbell said: I don't understand this. If you want to watch/monitor Soul, why are you voting for Lamb?Catchup. I'm using a different keyboard so apologies for any typos (I normally type in Colemak) What are you hoping to gain out of asking this question, and how does it help you divine Narote's alignment? (I recognize that this is pretty much a carbon copy of your post from Angel Beats) Why are you voting no lynch in RVS? Believe it or not, I am actually town. Reasoning? I don't think post 25 is strong enough to confidently declare unaligned pairs with Soul and Penta. This wagon on me is great, there's likely to be at least one scum in the five people who are voting me, so we can keep track of it as the game goes on. Crossbell (4)// Togs, Shinichi-kun, SoulEaterQUEEN, Bee-Boy :/ Why did you do this? Jackrito asking the question I had above here and Soren giving a reasonable answer reflects well on both of them. Bee-Boy is also noticing what I saw with SoulEaterQUEEN. If you think Jack is nervous, would that be more natural coming from scum!Jack or town!Jack? If scum!Jack is more nervous, then why aren't you voting for him? Why are you so worried about 3rd parties so early in this game? SoulEaterQUEEN is scintillating between caring about her questions and behaving as though as she just rolled scum again. I'm glad PentaFlare is town though. Vote: Lamby I want to watch and monitor SoulEaterQUEEN. She feels /different/ but I'm just not sure if my brain just wants her to be scum, or it's because we're in a different game. What don't you like about Soul's vote on Kasai? From these posts on interest in Crossbell, I expect to see a pursue on Crossbell but the vote is still on Karote :/ someone who she is scum reading isn't really get a lot of attention. aa-dono said: No. I can't remember playing games with Karote other than UAS. Anyway I observed that from his long reference quote in #808 and #810 I'm waiting for him to elaborate on his Penta vote. Seems out of nowhere. But they are still your main scum read, but yet I detect some uncertainty even though you vote to lynch them today - was that not your intention? aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: You left out Crossbell. Why?Hmm, looks like people are interested in Karote/Bee-Boy. If I had to pick between them, I rather Bee-Boy to be honest. They carry more information based on their interaction and push throughout the phase. So much Crossbell interest, it's too real. ===== Placeholder page, finished pg 18 |
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Kasai said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Possibility of both, but I'd say the first one is more common than the 2nd. It would depend on the make up of the scum team on how they choose to do their night kills WIFOM applied here won't necessarily give us concrete reasoning, so take this idea as a grain of salt. I already know what Penta/Jack as killers would probably do, and they would go for the more inactives to give town the least information. Yay! Another day phase another accusation. God I love this. Jokes aside nope I am not mafia and I would nott kill Izaya even if I was. My first choice would be an experienced player. I know Izaya is experienced but the fact that he protected me would put me at the spot light that is why I would kill an experienced player that would not bring attention to me. I would find 3 players dangerous this game if I was mafia 1- Soren 2- Izaya 3- Jackrito Izaya is out of question since he protected and suspected me. Soren is a no go either since I always vote him but I might have gone with that too since that would be a WIFOM situation I could play around with. Then again the most obvious choice would be Jack since he is so good at catching scum I am sure that I would not be able to hide long with him in the game especially considering our last games together. Back to the subject no I did not kill Izaya and I would kill Jack if I was mafia. Wow. I didn't even really suspect you >.> but thanks for the info even though I didn't even directly ask. |
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| Vote: aa-dono I'm tired of her lack of interest in finding scum. |
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| Ok this is my thoughts on day one, and all the actions in that day, this will be pretty long so I will do a spoiler for those who don't care and have a simple read list under it like in the Angel beats game. End of part 1 at page 11 Not going to lie I'm really lacking the moviation to do this like I normally would and I don't blame anyone for not reading this. Strong town- Queen,,Soren slight town- Kasai,Penta(I could go either way with Penta),Claire Nulll- Magic/Denja,Togs/transicence, Sightless Slight scum aa-dono, Crossbell, no_chode_name, Karote,Deepinthelair This is far from my best work, and I'm sorry for it I feel a bit burnt out perhaps. That readlist is a mix of my overview of the game and reread so far. |
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_Claire_ said: PentaFlare said: I have two minutes of wifi time before I will be gone all afternoon. You want a lead to go off? I think Dono is scum. Take it or leave it. Can you explain, or you have a reason for this? I have a reason for this, I'll explain after I catch up. |
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_Claire_ said: @PentaFlare if you have a lead on her and you are convinced of it why are you not voting for her? I was crunched for time. Let me catch up before doing anything. |
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| After reading, I think I agree with explanation and after thinking I think Penta wouldn't take risk in such second day. I would trust him atm, if this is a mislynch I know I am going for Penta in day 3. If aa-dono is scum then Penta is confirmed town. vote: aa-dono This is the best way for me to determine if Penta is scum or town and stop being paranoid of him in the game. |
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_Claire_ said: After reading, I think I agree with explanation and after thinking I think Penta wouldn't take risk in such second day. I would trust him atm, if this is a mislynch I know I am going for Penta in day 3. If aa-dono is scum then Penta is confirmed town. vote: aa-dono This is the best way for me to determine if Penta is scum or town and stop being paranoid of him in the game. I definitely agree with this being a good way to alleviate suspicion on him if aa-dono flips scum. Also think Crossbell might have some association with aa-dono since I am reading a lot of interest in Crossbell which who has bit of a less impact on this game so far. |
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| Ok since now I have stopped my reread from hell and read through this properly and looked into dono some more Thanks to Queen for that it makes it a lot easier when you get most of the info and also commented on it. I would agree she is doing little scumhunting and danceing around it too much and asking too many questions like they did in Angel beats game. It just reads of someone scumhunting but can't because have nothing real to hunt so are been careful and can't commit. Thier points about Crossbell are very intresting as well it mixes up a lot. If penta says what I think he will that may add to it as well. Vote aa-dono |
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| Okay. I'm caught up. I did not have a really solid read on aa-dono. I thought she seemed just a little bit off, but I wasn't confident in my ability to read her. What really bothered me was that she had been moving almost completely under the radar and that most people seemed to be ignoring her or had forgotten about her. My main goal in calling her out was to try and make other players think about her actions this game. I'm glad it worked out as I was hoping and that I'm not the only one who found herher behaviour odd. I didn't have a special reason for not voting. I was just rushed and forgot. I'm glad I didn't though because her reaction which focused on my lack of vote was very interesting. Vote: aa-dono |
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| I'm really sorry, had things on. Will try to be VERY active. I guess the point im trying to get across is this: I impulsively join games, even though I suck at them. I really need to, in a sense, git gud. |
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deepinthelair said: Nice meme! Now, who's scum?I'm really sorry, had things on. Will try to be VERY active. I guess the point im trying to get across is this: I impulsively join games, even though I suck at them. I really need to, in a sense, git gud. |
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| Catching up. Vote dono |
| Me! I am the scummiest person, in this scum world. I am scum, for not being active, Scummy-diddly scum scum~ |
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| Vote: Deepinthelair |
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deepinthelair said: What do you think about the aforementioned points about aa-dono being scum?Me! I am the scummiest person, in this scum world. I am scum, for not being active, Scummy-diddly scum scum~ |
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Vote Count ★ 2.2 Magical DenjaX (1)// no_chode_name aa-dono (7)// SoulEaterQUEEN, Karote, Soren, _Claire_, Jackrito, PentaFlare, Crossbell deepinthelai (1)// deepinthelair Not voting // Kasai, SightlessReality, DenjaX, aa-dono, Transience › Time until Night 2 ‹ |
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| Vote magicalofmagic I counterclaim her role!! Edit: oops I believe Claire is scum and if she is, Kasai should be her scum buddy. At first I thought Penta might be scum but then his current reveal makes me question Claire's interrogation. I ll wait and see if Penta claim is legit. |
DenjaX said: Elaborate on your claire scum read and the kasai scum partner association tell please.Vote magicalofmagic I counterclaim her role!! Edit: oops I believe Claire is scum and if she is, Kasai should be her scum buddy. At first I thought Penta might be scum but then his current reveal makes me question Claire's interrogation. I ll wait and see if Penta claim is legit. |
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DenjaX said: Vote magicalofmagic I counterclaim her role!! Edit: oops I believe Claire is scum and if she is, Kasai should be her scum buddy. At first I thought Penta might be scum but then his current reveal makes me question Claire's interrogation. I ll wait and see if Penta claim is legit. Firstly nope secondly where do you get the connection. I want to know how I am scum buddies with her. I am used to being called scum but this is the first time somebody said I am scum with someone and I want to know how. Edit: Looks like soren beat me to my question -_- |
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Soren said: I cant post it atm since Im on phone but there was Penta suspecting Kasai even though Kaito was definitely acting suspicious and then Claire seemed to defend Kasai with her line of questioning which is weird. I initially thought Penta was scum and was ready to vote him when I catch up because hed knew Kaito is not mafia and Kaito flipped town that is why he ddnt vote for him. But he was confident about his vote on aadono so I should leave it for now. Ill get back to it when I get the post. I cant regurgitate exactly what they said and I feel like I ddnt explain it properlyElaborate on your claire scum read and the kasai scum partner association tell please. The only thing Im worried about is the possibility of an Executioner but aadono will get lynched today. Vote: Claire |
DenjaX said: Soren said: I cant post it atm since Im on phone but there was Penta suspecting Kasai even though Kaito was definitely acting suspicious and then Claire seemed to defend Kasai with her line of questioning which is weird. I initially thought Penta was scum and was ready to vote him when I catch up because hed knew Kaito is not mafia and Kaito flipped town that is why he ddnt vote for him. But he was confident about his vote on aadono so I should leave it for now. Ill get back to it when I get the post. I cant regurgitate exactly what they said and I feel like I ddnt explain it properlyElaborate on your claire scum read and the kasai scum partner association tell please. The only thing Im worried about is the possibility of an Executioner but aadono will get lynched today. Vote: Claire Nah Claire never defended me. She found Izaya[Kaito] defending me weird and suspected me and him being scum buddies. |
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