| I have this horrible feeling sightless is scum right now :( |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: I'll respond tommorrow this. This taabblet sucks.SightlessReality said: Im not scum you. Can believe otherwise if you want tho Can you provide reads of sorts before the end of the phase? Not declaring you as scum but I rather have some indication where your mindset is at in this game. |
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| The funny thing is when Sightless was scum he actually played the game. Which is making me lean towards him being town here, but if he is actually scum I will never live it down. |
| @SoulEaterQUEEN: I can buy your points on Lucian. The state of "perpetual catch-up, never engaging with others in the thread" plus the vote on Shinichi does raise my hackles a bit. There are worlds where both Lucian and followind are scum, I think? Every time I play this game I never assume things are this easy, though. Togs and Shinichi are decent town reads at least (Shinichi more than Togs, Togs can plausibly fake a lot of this). I kind of want to take a look at aa-dono again (yeah, shoot me). It's just that Soren's continued participation made me really doubt that he should have been the lynch while dono just up and disappeared. Plus the Arrisu kill, while WiFOMy, does slightly point to dono. |
| My problem with sightless is he tried to fish for the big before ni lynching which is what he wanted to do :/ That is wrong to me :/ |
| Why is shinichi town .-. |
| Oh wait I remember now carry on. |
Crossbell said: @SoulEaterQUEEN: I can buy your points on Lucian. The state of "perpetual catch-up, never engaging with others in the thread" plus the vote on Shinichi does raise my hackles a bit. There are worlds where both Lucian and followind are scum, I think? Every time I play this game I never assume things are this easy, though. Togs and Shinichi are decent town reads at least (Shinichi more than Togs, Togs can plausibly fake a lot of this). I kind of want to take a look at aa-dono again (yeah, shoot me). It's just that Soren's continued participation made me really doubt that he should have been the lynch while dono just up and disappeared. Plus the Arrisu kill, while WiFOMy, does slightly point to dono. Hmm, aa-dono should definitely not be forgotten about, but don't use all your resources to make her your primary target is all I ask. I'd like to see how aa-dono reacts in a "natural" environment (one involving much less pressure) before making another assessment on her though, this will give me a better read on her. |
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| Now I must sleep before this game takes over my life (again). |
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| I was disconnected most of the time. I hate uni's connection. I'll be busy till night but I'll be back at around 1500 GMT (My 11pm GMT+8 *in case I calculated it wrong). Sorry. |
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Togs said: Lets claim in this order, or as close to this order as possible. If you are vanilla, claim your flavor as well. If you are a power role, ONLY claim that you are a PR without flavor. If you want to claim your full power role for whatever purpose, please wait to do so until at least the first half of the list has claimed. I'll go first since I might not be able to post until later. I'm TK, town vanilla. 1. @Togs 2. @followind 3. @LucianRoy 4. @Shuuka 5. @Jackrito 6. @aa-dono 7. @SightlessReality 8. @Bee-Boy 9. @SoulEaterQUEEN 10. @Crossbell 11. @Shinichi-kun Do I need to continue this? |
Togs said: Crossbell said: I suggest we massclaim, but power roles only need to say they are power roles without any more info. We should then lynch 2 from the pool of vanillas.Mass claim would be good to narrow the PoE pool, given that we are in lylo. Double lynching is also good today since we will lose regardless. I was just thinking from a mafia perspective and I think scum will try to claim PR? This might then lead to confusion among town... or am I wrong about this? |
followind said: Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... @aa-dono Can you please answer this... I don't like my questions being ignored.. |
| @Bee-Boy Why do you suspect Jack? I think he's pretty town cause he tries to scum hunt by asking questions while caring for its answers and also trying to find information |
| We shouldn't worry too much on who is the Vig that tried to kill Bioshade or Arri IMO.. Since there are 2 kills then it's pretty much WIFOM... Although making a connection from both of them is good and I agree with this... We should focus more on gathering information and scum hunting... |
Crossbell said: followind said: I could be confirmation biasing this, but this seems like a decent case of "caught for the wrong reasons". followind is angry at being scumread over being inactive.Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... Well I was out with my friends the whole day and came back to find people scum reading me just because of my inactiveness... Why wouldn't I be.. |
| Well atm, the best choice for us will be to have a No Lynch then lynching someone which is a neutral read.. I agree with this.. But I feel like it's taking a bet since a PR will probably die since some of us will claim PR But if we have a confirm scum read on someone, we should do that instead since we can play without the pressure from lylo |
| Stupid Bee-Boy <-< |
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SightlessReality said: Stupid Bee-Boy <-< lol? Oh yeah, forgot to vote.. I would rather lynch a scum than not lynching today but oh well... Vote:No Lynch atm |
followind said: Togs said: Lets claim in this order, or as close to this order as possible. If you are vanilla, claim your flavor as well. If you are a power role, ONLY claim that you are a PR without flavor. If you want to claim your full power role for whatever purpose, please wait to do so until at least the first half of the list has claimed. I'll go first since I might not be able to post until later. I'm TK, town vanilla. 1. @Togs 2. @followind 3. @LucianRoy 4. @Shuuka 5. @Jackrito 6. @aa-dono 7. @SightlessReality 8. @Bee-Boy 9. @SoulEaterQUEEN 10. @Crossbell 11. @Shinichi-kun Do I need to continue this? Yes you do I can pretty much guess your answer though |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: @Jackrito I summon you when you wake up/have a moment to give your thoughts to the game when you can. I can't give full thoughts until after work but as things stand if I would Lynch anyone it would be Lucian he is playing the way he does as scum like you pointed out. A lot of backtracking and questions but no signs of scum hunting. |
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Vote Count 2.2: No lynch (4): Bee-Boy, Crossbell, SoulEaterQUEEN, followind Players not voting: (Togs, Jackrito, SightlessReality, LucianRoy, aa-dono, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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I'm a PR |
Not what I was expecting intresting |
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I'm not going to comment on this.. |
Crossbell said: I do not think the vig should claim at this point. We already have a fair number of vanillas claimed and if the vig claims then all the mafia has to do is shoot them at Night and voila, we've lost a confirmed townie. This makes me slightly suspicious of Sightless for that reason. I think it's worth looking into Arrisu's reads since the scum were compelled to kill Arrisu even though she claimed vanilla (or they wanted to test her bluff?). It's possible that they killed her mostly for WiFOM purposes/incriminate aa-dono, but I'm struggling to see the mindset of a mafia team who intentionally kills Arrisu knowing that she is vanilla. At this point I guess I'm fine with saundering into a third Day and hoping the mafia kills some random vanilla over a power role, mostly because most of this Day has been used up already on lurking and such. If they do kill a PR, though, then that will be disappointing. Going to do some rereading. Think u make a good point but too bad with don't have a watcher that make it worth while for the vigilante to claim cause it make him immune since mafia wouldn't risk giving away themselves to kill a pr. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Crossbell said: I do not think the vig should claim at this point. We already have a fair number of vanillas claimed and if the vig claims then all the mafia has to do is shoot them at Night and voila, we've lost a confirmed townie. This makes me slightly suspicious of Sightless for that reason. I think it's worth looking into Arrisu's reads since the scum were compelled to kill Arrisu even though she claimed vanilla (or they wanted to test her bluff?). It's possible that they killed her mostly for WiFOM purposes/incriminate aa-dono, but I'm struggling to see the mindset of a mafia team who intentionally kills Arrisu knowing that she is vanilla. At this point I guess I'm fine with saundering into a third Day and hoping the mafia kills some random vanilla over a power role, mostly because most of this Day has been used up already on lurking and such. If they do kill a PR, though, then that will be disappointing. Going to do some rereading. Hmm, we can't be so sure that mafia kill Ari at this point though. I'd hope Ari was the mafia kill since I don't see any reason for the vig to shoot Ari unless Kaito/aa-dono were really stuck on the Ari scum read but even then I don't think either one would have that much confidence to shoot straight away without thinking for another day especially not aa-dono since she's incredibly cautious as a player. My other thought process is that scum don't want to deal with Ari's aggressive playstyle. When her mind is set to a lynch she will keep on pushing hard. This is where the reads will come into handy. The loss for the vig to not claim is that town will waste time trying to figure out who killed who and for what reason. All in all, we don't know for sure who killed who, and I think tomorrow I need to spend time reading the thread with a fresh mind. Especially want to read over LucianRoy's posts and Followind's. I apologize for my lack of contribution this phase but in all honesty my brain has been dead today. Smh lol I don't night 1 shoot as vigi for any reason unless im 100% my scum read is accurate >_>. I will will most likely look over the voting and she whois been picking/bringing up who might be able to get some connections. SoulEaterQUEEN said: SightlessReality said: Im not scum you. Can believe otherwise if you want tho Can you provide reads of sorts before the end of the phase? Not declaring you as scum but I rather have some indication where your mindset is at in this game. Same something would help cause i wanna read you as town still but i need something to work with. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: I do not think the vig should claim at this point. We already have a fair number of vanillas claimed and if the vig claims then all the mafia has to do is shoot them at Night and voila, we've lost a confirmed townie. This makes me slightly suspicious of Sightless for that reason. I think it's worth looking into Arrisu's reads since the scum were compelled to kill Arrisu even though she claimed vanilla (or they wanted to test her bluff?). It's possible that they killed her mostly for WiFOM purposes/incriminate aa-dono, but I'm struggling to see the mindset of a mafia team who intentionally kills Arrisu knowing that she is vanilla. At this point I guess I'm fine with saundering into a third Day and hoping the mafia kills some random vanilla over a power role, mostly because most of this Day has been used up already on lurking and such. If they do kill a PR, though, then that will be disappointing. Going to do some rereading. Think u make a good point but too bad with don't have a watcher that make it worth while for the vigilante to claim cause it make him immune since mafia wouldn't risk giving away themselves to kill a pr. Imo they is little need to kill a viglante, they are a two edged sword so as mafia sometimes keeping them alive is better. More deaths is a good thing for scum after all |
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followind said: Togs said: I suggest we massclaim, but power roles only need to say they are power roles without any more info. We should then lynch 2 from the pool of vanillas. I was just thinking from a mafia perspective and I think scum will try to claim PR? This might then lead to confusion among town... or am I wrong about this? Doubt they would do that espically with the vigilante and invest roles still in play be too risky. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Think u make a good point but too bad with don't have a watcher that make it worth while for the vigilante to claim cause it make him immune since mafia wouldn't risk giving away themselves to kill a pr. Imo they is little need to kill a viglante, they are a two edged sword so as mafia sometimes keeping them alive is better. More deaths is a good thing for scum after all Well if the vigilante has multiple shot she/he better not shoot recklessly again. |
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| -Shrugs- I don't like it but I gave Bee-Boy plenty of hints by now. And frankly Scum have probably caught on. I'm Otonashi Yuzuru the Role Cop. Last night I paid a visit to Bee-Boy to figure out their role due to their shady voting at EoD. I got the Vigilantly Role as my result. If Bee-Boy had just claimed when I called them out I wouldn't have had to do this. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: followind said: I was just thinking from a mafia perspective and I think scum will try to claim PR? This might then lead to confusion among town... or am I wrong about this? Doubt they would do that espically with the vigilante and invest roles still in play be too risky. Really they is not all they need to do is fool us today and then RB the viglante and then they will win. So this is the perfect time to do it this is not a norml game riskes like that can pay off if they have faith they can win the RC battle. |
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SightlessReality said: -Shrugs- I don't like it but I gave Bee-Boy plenty of hints by now. And frankly Scum have probably caught on. I'm Otonashi Yuzuru the Role Cop. Last night I paid a visit to Bee-Boy to figure out their role due to their shady voting at EoD. I got the Vigilantly Role as my result. If Bee-Boy had just claimed when I called them out I wouldn't have had to do this. Why did you do this, they was a chance scum would of tried to fake claim it. You also revealed a power role so mafia will just RB them now and it makes it easier to figure out the others since you claimed as well . Part of me feels you are lying on this because this is a bad move. |
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Didn't expect this either, the fact that he brought up mafia claiming Pr's then he claim's a pr makes me think hes not lieing @Jackrito what do you think? |
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Jackrito said: SightlessReality said: -Shrugs- I don't like it but I gave Bee-Boy plenty of hints by now. And frankly Scum have probably caught on. I'm Otonashi Yuzuru the Role Cop. Last night I paid a visit to Bee-Boy to figure out their role due to their shady voting at EoD. I got the Vigilantly Role as my result. If Bee-Boy had just claimed when I called them out I wouldn't have had to do this. Why did you do this, they was a chance scum would of tried to fake claim it. You also revealed a power role so mafia will just RB them now and it makes it easier to figure out the others since you claimed as well . Part of me feels you are lying on this because this is a bad move. Well to bad your wrong about me lying. I gave Bee-Boy more then enough chances to role reveal and instead they keep claiming I'm role fishing. |
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followind said: They're welcome to try, they'll be caught out when the claim completes and the numbers don't add up.Togs said: I suggest we massclaim, but power roles only need to say they are power roles without any more info. We should then lynch 2 from the pool of vanillas. I was just thinking from a mafia perspective and I think scum will try to claim PR? This might then lead to confusion among town... or am I wrong about this? @LucianRoy you're up next, where you at man ? |
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SightlessReality said: -Shrugs- I don't like it but I gave Bee-Boy plenty of hints by now. And frankly Scum have probably caught on. I'm Otonashi Yuzuru the Role Cop. Last night I paid a visit to Bee-Boy to figure out their role due to their shady voting at EoD. I got the Vigilantly Role as my result. If Bee-Boy had just claimed when I called them out I wouldn't have had to do this. Ok cool i was right then, that's what I was thinking too. Also Now i have a slight idea of who could be scum might be wrong tho not sure yet. |
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| Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus |
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Jackrito said: SightlessReality said: -Shrugs- I don't like it but I gave Bee-Boy plenty of hints by now. And frankly Scum have probably caught on. I'm Otonashi Yuzuru the Role Cop. Last night I paid a visit to Bee-Boy to figure out their role due to their shady voting at EoD. I got the Vigilantly Role as my result. If Bee-Boy had just claimed when I called them out I wouldn't have had to do this. Why did you do this, they was a chance scum would of tried to fake claim it. You also revealed a power role so mafia will just RB them now and it makes it easier to figure out the others since you claimed as well . Part of me feels you are lying on this because this is a bad move. Why u think hes lieing? |
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Togs said: Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus I would have, had they not tried to put pressure on me and claim I'm role fishing and make me look worse then I actually am. |
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Togs said: Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus Well either way since the cat's out of the bag no use crying over spilled milk if sightless is telling the truth I wanna hear from bee boy on his decisions. |
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Togs said: Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus Also whats with this defensive reaction? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Didn't expect this either, the fact that he brought up mafia claiming Pr's then he claim's a pr makes me think hes not lieing @Jackrito what do you think? I doubt it since if Sightless is not lying they is 2 left. and that post before it was strange to me more like a presetup to fakeclaim in my view not something you mention and then do it anyway if town. But I'm clearly off my game |
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SightlessReality said: Are you really that insecure ? You have a power role claim dude, you're never ever gonna get lynched. Seriously if you don't want to contribute reads fine but you gotta think these things through !Togs said: Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus I would have, had they not tried to put pressure on me and claim I'm role fishing and make me look worse then I actually am. |
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SightlessReality said: Jackrito said: Why did you do this, they was a chance scum would of tried to fake claim it. You also revealed a power role so mafia will just RB them now and it makes it easier to figure out the others since you claimed as well . Part of me feels you are lying on this because this is a bad move. Well to bad your wrong about me lying. I gave Bee-Boy more then enough chances to role reveal and instead they keep claiming I'm role fishing. Because you were rolefishing if you know they are town, why push them into a claim espically if a power role, This makes no sense it is thier choice to keep it hidden and if not scum pressure why do it. |
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| Not defensive, he sounds annoyed. He basically outed two confirmed PRs. And now Mafia are free to kill who they want now. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Didn't expect this either, the fact that he brought up mafia claiming Pr's then he claim's a pr makes me think hes not lieing @Jackrito what do you think? I doubt it since if Sightless is not lying they is 2 left. and that post before it was strange to me more like a presetup to fakeclaim in my view not something you mention and then do it anyway if town. But I'm clearly off my game Wait so u think wind is lieing or you dont? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Togs said: Sightless what the fuck. If you know that beeboy is confirmed town and doesn't want to claim yet, let him do his own thing jesus Also whats with this defensive reaction? They are right to be, this was a bad move all round it revealed sightless and Bee-boy so 2 power roles are known. so now scum can kill or RB them and we can't do a lot |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: I doubt it since if Sightless is not lying they is 2 left. and that post before it was strange to me more like a presetup to fakeclaim in my view not something you mention and then do it anyway if town. But I'm clearly off my game Wait so u think wind is lieing or you dont? I think it is possible that he is could be wrong though |
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| Is anyone else still getting bad vibes from followind like he's behaving like some robot that's performing from a script wrote for him? |
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