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Dec 4, 2010 10:52 PM

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They just look like swimsuit pics too me,when the person in the pic grows up they probably wont even give a fuck.
The only thing i find messed up is people masturbating to that stuff,but they're keeping that shit to themselves atleast. (hopefully)
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Dec 5, 2010 3:21 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
skankfish said:
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Drawings don't have human rights.


Nor emotions or even self awareness. However, this has been brought up before, but some people either disagree, or directly relate lolicon to child molestation without any credible proof of some sort.


I think their point of view is more that when it isn't clear if one leads to other, it's better to stay on the side of caution.

The idea that masturbating over fictional images of children (or in this case, real ones) indicates the type of person who wants to do it "in the flesh" is often combatted with "yeah well violent films don't make people violent, do they?". I think they probably do, but that link isn't good enough to ban them. However, someone masturbating over people being killed on film seems to me to be the kind of person who may be dangerous to society. So I guess the link is a bunch of wankers.


So by your logic everybody who plays violent video games or watches lolicon is a murderer or a rapist.


No. My point was only that to defend something by saying most people who consume it aren't potential criminals is skirting round the issue. Not sure where your reading of it came from.
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Dec 6, 2010 7:54 AM

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skankfish said:
Chavez said:
Sonic_Moronic said:
Drawings don't have human rights.


Nor emotions or even self awareness. However, this has been brought up before, but some people either disagree, or directly relate lolicon to child molestation without any credible proof of some sort.


I think their point of view is more that when it isn't clear if one leads to other, it's better to stay on the side of caution.

The idea that masturbating over fictional images of children (or in this case, real ones) indicates the type of person who wants to do it "in the flesh" is often combatted with "yeah well violent films don't make people violent, do they?". I think they probably do, but that link isn't good enough to ban them. However, someone masturbating over people being killed on film seems to me to be the kind of person who may be dangerous to society. So I guess the link is a bunch of wankers.


skankfish said:


No. My point was only that to defend something by saying most people who consume it aren't potential criminals is skirting round the issue. Not sure where your reading of it came from.


There's no skirting around the issue. Since lolicon isn't child porn it isn't as bad as most people make it seem. People who watch it are not just going to go out and rape somebody. Violent media is the same. It doesn't make people go out and kill somebody.
Dec 6, 2010 9:27 AM
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I prefer to stay on the safe side. As long as there is no empirical evidence of lolicon transforming ppl into pedofiles, Id rather not speculate.
Dec 6, 2010 10:09 AM

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they need a better religion maybe xD

Dec 6, 2010 3:22 PM

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xilam said:
they need a better religion maybe xD


Religion has nothing to do with it.
Dec 9, 2010 8:35 PM

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Aren't we lucky that you have the answer to everything.
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Dec 9, 2010 10:01 PM

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skankfish said:
Aren't we lucky that you have the answer to everything.


I know. I'm great like that.
Dec 10, 2010 6:35 AM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
xilam said:
they need a better religion maybe xD


Religion has nothing to do with it.

I don't know about that. Yes, some people who don't believe in religion are guided by morals and would be opposed to this sort of thing, but sometimes it is religious people who make the biggest fuss. I don't have any concrete proof, so my argument can just be thrown away, but it would seem like it makes sense. Why do you think it has nothing to do with it? They are the group who starts most of the fuss, aren't they?
Dec 10, 2010 6:51 AM

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prismheart said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
xilam said:
they need a better religion maybe xD


Religion has nothing to do with it.

I don't know about that. Yes, some people who don't believe in religion are guided by morals and would be opposed to this sort of thing, but sometimes it is religious people who make the biggest fuss. I don't have any concrete proof, so my argument can just be thrown away, but it would seem like it makes sense. Why do you think it has nothing to do with it? They are the group who starts most of the fuss, aren't they?


I assumed xilam was talking about the people who watch lolicon and stuff and not people bitching about it.
Dec 28, 2010 8:57 PM

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Gogetters said:
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it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
lol @ img bbcode not working, mal is such a great site
Dec 28, 2010 9:10 PM

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xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!
GogettersDec 29, 2010 11:04 AM
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I'm sorry to burst your fuckin tiny ass bubble, but it's life. I know its sick as fucking hell, but it's the truth. Posting won't make it any better, all it will do is make it so that we share your agony in noticing one head-shaking thing, only to divert our attention to another head-shaking shame of humanity. Sorry, I feel the same way you do, but fuck it all, there isn't much you nor I can do to stop this fucked up world where it's heading.

On another note, Happy New Years! Wishing everyone to turn a new leaf for 2011.
Jan 1, 2011 1:58 AM

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Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?
Jan 1, 2011 2:31 PM

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nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?
I'm not implying anything like that.
GogettersJan 1, 2011 2:46 PM
Jan 1, 2011 7:50 PM

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Gogetters said:

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.
Lolicon all the way!!!

nubmonk said:

Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?

Gogetters said:

I'm not implying anything like that.

Mhm.
lol @ img bbcode not working, mal is such a great site
Jan 1, 2011 9:10 PM
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Oh,I can´t watch Japanese porn
That girls screming are soo......disturbing
(somebory agree with me?)
Jan 3, 2011 5:11 PM

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nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?
Jan 3, 2011 5:35 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?


Because they're drawings of little girls doing sexual things? I have no problem if people want to like it because it doesn't involve real people getting hurt, im just saying don't say you're not a pedo if you like it, cos you are.
Jan 3, 2011 5:58 PM

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nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?


Because they're drawings of little girls doing sexual things? I have no problem if people want to like it because it doesn't involve real people getting hurt, im just saying don't say you're not a pedo if you like it, cos you are.


Yay! More ignorance! Just because a person likes lolicon does not mean they like real children. Since lolicon is not real they cannot be pedos for liking it.
Jan 3, 2011 6:11 PM
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Maybe if you dream doing it(sex with children) with ´´drawings`` you don´t do it in real life...OR not
Jan 3, 2011 6:26 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?


Because they're drawings of little girls doing sexual things? I have no problem if people want to like it because it doesn't involve real people getting hurt, im just saying don't say you're not a pedo if you like it, cos you are.


Yay! More ignorance! Just because a person likes lolicon does not mean they like real children. Since lolicon is not real they cannot be pedos for liking it.


A pedophile is a person who is attracted to young children, even if its a drawing, you're still attracted to a young child. Therefore you are a pedo.
Jan 3, 2011 9:00 PM

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nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?


Because they're drawings of little girls doing sexual things? I have no problem if people want to like it because it doesn't involve real people getting hurt, im just saying don't say you're not a pedo if you like it, cos you are.


Yay! More ignorance! Just because a person likes lolicon does not mean they like real children. Since lolicon is not real they cannot be pedos for liking it.


A pedophile is a person who is attracted to young children, even if its a drawing, you're still attracted to a young child. Therefore you are a pedo.


Wrong once again. Since it is a drawing it is not a child because it is not real.
Jan 3, 2011 9:02 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
nubmonk said:
Gogetters said:
xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:
octopuss said:
it's better to look at an animated toddler getting turned out than a real one, i daresay
Toddlercon isn't all that good... Lolicon is better...

Lol,isnt all that good?
I understand its a drawing and all but i never got how its ''good'' at all its fucking nasty. (toddlercon i mean)
Well yeah... I think i should have said "Toddlercon sucks/ is gross... Lolicon is better" now that i think about it...

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.

Lolicon all the way!!!


Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?


How would he be a pedo for liking drawings?


Because they're drawings of little girls doing sexual things? I have no problem if people want to like it because it doesn't involve real people getting hurt, im just saying don't say you're not a pedo if you like it, cos you are.


Yay! More ignorance! Just because a person likes lolicon does not mean they like real children. Since lolicon is not real they cannot be pedos for liking it.


A pedophile is a person who is attracted to young children, even if its a drawing, you're still attracted to a young child. Therefore you are a pedo.


Wrong once again. Since it is a drawing it is not a child because it is not real.
QUOTE PYRAMID
Jan 3, 2011 9:06 PM

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nubmonk said:
A pedophile is a person who is attracted to young children, even if its a drawing, you're still attracted to a young child. Therefore you are a pedo.

I think it depends on the level of attraction because the higher the level then the more likely the case they might like real children and then they are a pedo, but that's just what I think. So, I have to say he is not necessarily a pedo for liking the drawings.
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xxangelchanxx said:
Gogetters said:

Toddlercon is just way too young looking and makes me feel all pedoish.
Lolicon all the way!!!

nubmonk said:

Lol are you seriously implying that you're not a pedo because you like lolicon over toddlercon?

Gogetters said:

I'm not implying anything like that.

Mhm.
"makes me feel all pedoish" was meant to be a joke but you took it serious, apparently...
Just like you not liking lolicon, i don't like toddlercon, but i guess that really depends on the art style of the artist drawing it. I remember reading this one manga with a character that could be considered a toddler, but yeah... Lolicon is better than toddlercon imo.

Liking lolicon does not make anyone a pedo, it make them a lolicon :3
Yeah, sure. There are those few who may like children after seeing lolicon, but that same logic can be applying to everything, not just lolicon.


Drawings are drawing and real is real. Try not to get them mixed up. :)

Also not everything lolicon is sexual.
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Drunk_Samurai said:

Wrong once again. Since it is a drawing it is not a child because it is not real.

I think if you're attracted to that body type i don't see why you wouldn't be considered a pedophile even if its just drawings.
I think i'll have to agree with prismheart though,depends on the level of attraction too it.
lol @ img bbcode not working, mal is such a great site
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xxangelchanxx said:
Drunk_Samurai said:

Wrong once again. Since it is a drawing it is not a child because it is not real.

I think if you're attracted to that body type i don't see why you wouldn't be considered a pedophile even if its just drawings.
I think i'll have to agree with prismheart though,depends on the level of attraction too it.


Just because somebody likes lolicon does not mean they like real children.
If they are attracted to the body type of a lolicon drawing then that just means they are a lolicon.
Jan 5, 2011 8:45 AM

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xxangelchanxx said:
Drunk_Samurai said:

Wrong once again. Since it is a drawing it is not a child because it is not real.

I think if you're attracted to that body type i don't see why you wouldn't be considered a pedophile even if its just drawings.
I think i'll have to agree with prismheart though,depends on the level of attraction too it.


Pretty much like:

I like anime with guns so I'm a redneck.
I like Pokemon so I'm a potential animal abuser.
I like Hellsing so I'm a nazi.

Which is ridiculous of course. So no, it does not make you a pedophile. The relation between the fictional characters and real life children go as far as the supposed age. Nothing more.
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it's pretty obvious what would be mentioned about this, it goes without saying. applying to Hentai, ecchi, yaoi and whatever else their are, fantasying from visual content are equally the same. They have the same purpose, it's technically porn with an imagination.
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