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Sep 30, 8:13 AM
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https://myanimelist.net/anime/58714/Saikyou_no_Shienshoku_Wajutsushi_de_Aru_Ore_wa_Sekai_Saikyou_Clan_wo_Shitagaeru

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Noel longs to be a Seeker like his heroic grandfather, slaying the beasts that emerge from Abysses and exploring far-off lands. Unfortunately, it turns out he's nothing but a measly Talker–a job with no combat skills whatsoever. Undaunted, Noel sets out to establish the strongest clan in all the land, using his silver-tongued Talker skills to unite assassins and heroes under his leadership.

(Source: Seven Seas Entertainment)


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Type: TV
Episodes: Unknown
Status: Not yet aired
Aired: Oct 7, 2024 to ?
Premiered: Fall 2024
Broadcast: Mondays at 23:30 (JST)
Previewed: Oct 1, 2024
Producers: DAX Production, GREE Entertainment
Licensors: None found, add some
Studios: Felix Film, Ga-Crew
Source: Light novel
Genres: Action, Adventure, Fantasy
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Sep 30, 9:36 AM
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Episode 1

To start things off, Noel's backstory about how he became a Seeker, and pretty much he's fulfilling his grandfather's dying wish. But it turns out Noel is all talk and no action as he just doesn't have what it takes to be a Seeker, and instead he's a Talker, the weakest job around. Even so, he uses his tongue to run the clan as he's determined to build the strongest clan ever using his god-tier speaking skills. Things don't exactly get off to the best of starts when Lloyd and Tanya decide to go off on their own. This feels like I'm watching Let This Grieving Soul Retire (which are both by GREE and airing this season), but unlike with that show the MC is a weakling in a position of power by choice, all while this has a more serious feel to it as opposed to a more lighthearted one. Anyway, this show's production values had me skeptical about this show, and indeed that's how I'm feeling about this as I just didn't feel engaged all that much with this show.
Sep 30, 9:57 AM
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"Talker" is right. Way too much inane dialogue. I found this show deeply unpleasant right from the get-go, and I'm not even sure why. I might give it one more episode to change my mind, but I almost dropped this one in the first twelve minutes.
Sep 30, 10:01 AM
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Not a promising start at all...the MC is an edgelord to start out with, before even getting screwed over...then he supposedly gets screwed over at the end.

There was basically nothing compelling about this first episode.

Sep 30, 10:17 AM
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Well, at least it's not a standard D&D style fantasy world, although it has similarities. I was okay with the first episode, but I can't make any commitment until the cast settles in place. The main character certainly isn't going to carry the show for me. The goal of being the strongest edgelord ever (or being a pop idol adventuring group) isn't much of a plot, so something more than that would be nice.
Sep 30, 3:04 PM
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Ah, our edgelord garbage for the season.

All of his edgelord behaviour is undercut but his luscious eyelashes.
Sep 30, 3:30 PM
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The title had me thinking this was going to be a comedy, but no funny business can withstand this level of EDGE.

Still, not terrible so far, though there's a long way to go.

I kind of like that he and the guy he didn't get along with end up on the same side.
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Sep 30, 4:24 PM
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Ok let's see if this title retranslation helps anyone (I think it sheds light on where we're going).

最凶の支援職【話術士】である俺は世界最強クランを従える

Saikyou no Shienshoku "Wajutsushi" de Aru Ore wa Sekai Saikyou Clan wo Shitagaeru

~As The 'Baddest' Support Job "Word-User", I Rule (as in dominate) the World's Strongest Clan

最凶 saikyou 'the evilist' slight wordplay on 最強 saikyou 'the strongest' which appears later.

So yeah.
marklebidSep 30, 4:28 PM
Sep 30, 5:24 PM
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Those eyelashes made me hope he'd turn out to be a girl at some point, which would at least have been interesting, but no, he's shirtless later in the episode.
Oct 1, 6:57 PM
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Ugh. Another "weakest power ever" out to prove everyone wrong and become the strongest, saw the other party skipping out a mile away (since they aren't in the poster art haha). Guess I'll stick around to see if Ms Underboob McBoobwindows isn't just boring eye candy, but man I found it difficult to even make it through this episode.

Also what the hell is he wearing a sleeveless turtleneck sweater? Man if you can't even design reasonable fashion for your characters and I can't imagine you'll do any better on their personalities.
Oct 2, 12:51 AM
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The manga has incredible art and the MC comes up with some pretty convoluted schemes so it's actually quite an entertaining read.

I wish this received the budget that Wistoria had, the designs in this anime look like a budget knockoff of the original.



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So he was cut in half, how could he still talk? o_0
Oct 3, 3:07 AM
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So he was cut in half, how could he still talk? o_0
@MenchiK1 Talking is a free action?
Oct 3, 6:15 PM
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@MenchiK1 Talking is a free action?
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Huh?
Oct 3, 8:39 PM
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@MenchiK1 Until he's officially dead he can keep talking without regard for time.
Oct 3, 9:08 PM

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@MenchiK1 He has to fail 3 death saves.
Oct 3, 11:07 PM

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@MenchiK1 D&D humor
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Oct 4, 10:14 PM
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@MenchiK1 D&D humor
@zkeleton

Oh OK, nerds ;P
Oct 7, 10:49 AM

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This guy makes the torturing rapist from "Redo of a Healer" blush with his edge-lordiness.

I think this one is a drop...
Oct 7, 3:37 PM

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What in the world is this show? ><
Oct 7, 4:06 PM

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Yeah, since the title of this doesn't seem to be The Greatest Former Edgelord Learns Humility And Forgiveness To Save The World And His Immortal Soul, I think it's just gonna be cringey badasserooney all the way down.

I'm out.
Oct 7, 5:53 PM
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Really you're all out? But it just got interesting, this guy got Griffith levels of determination to achieve his goals. (well almost Griffith would have slept with mafia clown guy)Hot girl likes me, no time for love baby, in fact I'm going to sell you into slavery and turn a profit on your ass. And Damn the way she reemed strong guy.If this is only ep 2 can't wait to see how they try to top this much edginess. ;)
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Really you're all out? But it just got interesting, this guy got Griffith levels of determination to achieve his goals. (well almost Griffith would have slept with mafia clown guy)Hot girl likes me, no time for love baby, in fact I'm going to sell you into slavery and turn a profit on your ass. And Damn the way she reemed strong guy.If this is only ep 2 can't wait to see how they try to top this much edginess. ;)
@MenchiK1 I'm still in. If we're this far gone by episode 2 this should reach some truly astounding depths.
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@MenchiK1 I'm still in. If we're this far gone by episode 2 this should reach some truly astounding depths.
runec said:
@MenchiK1 I'm still in. If we're this far gone by episode 2 this should reach some truly astounding depths.
I was half expecting the bottle of liquor he gave to the retiring guy to be instant deadly poison...
Oct 8, 5:03 AM

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marklebid said:
I was half expecting the bottle of liquor he gave to the retiring guy to be instant deadly poison...


I did too. Something like "you didn't back me up 100%, so you are useless to me"
Oct 9, 7:43 PM

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Yeah I'm still in too. Not sure if this will be a hate watch or so bad it's good watch yet.
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Oct 10, 8:06 AM

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Episode 2

Noel is using his sharp tongue to make a deal with the slave trader Finocchio, and yeah, he's throwing everybody under the bus. I don't like the direction this show is going seeing that Noel's mouth is much more dangerous than it should. Anyway, I'll give it one more episode, but seeing that there are several other run-of-the-mill shows that are at least worth my time that I'm not likely to watch beyond that.
Oct 14, 3:14 PM

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There are some serious structural support issues with her outfit. Must be some serious double sided tape going on.

He was more likable this episode because he didn't do any real edgelording.
Oct 14, 3:38 PM

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runec said:
he didn't do any real edgelording
This episode they decided to make him more of a tsukkomi character
Oct 14, 3:58 PM
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There are some serious structural support issues with her outfit. Must be some serious double sided tape going on.

He was more likable this episode because he didn't do any real edgelording.
@runec Pleather dom suits: The traditional garb of assassins everywhere.
Oct 14, 9:16 PM

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Wow that town had a lot of travelers, they must have had to time travel several hundred years to find that hotel room.
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Wow that town had a lot of travelers, they must have had to time travel several hundred years to find that hotel room.
@zkeleton By its design, it looked like a love-hotel room.
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@zkeleton By its design, it looked like a love-hotel room.
@marklebid Nah, everything wasn't covered in plastic.
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Well underboob Alma is fun, I guess she makes this worth watching for a few more episodes. Unlike a couple other recent shows, that's how an overpowered dumb hick should act. Why did it end with him on the bed? Wasn't there only one and didn't he say she could have it?
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Whew! That was close. He almost had a redeeming feature as a character there for a moment. Good thing he reverted to being a sadistic asshole and shattered a child's dreams while dooming her family to death at the hands of the mob.

This guy isn't even a fun edgelord. He's just an asshole.
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runec said:
This guy isn't even a fun edgelord. He's just an asshole.


Yeah, I thought last week they were moving past this...they tripled down on it this week.

I can just see the edge lord lovers saying "well the people he is being an ass to deserved it."....yeah, because the author decided to set up all these situations where everyone is out to get specifically him. Easy enough to justify an edge lord asshole when you make the MC the target for every unscrupulous person in the world....just like Redo of a Healer. Seems like it's likely every episode is going to be set up for someone to wrong him so that he can edge lord out...


fooled me into giving this show a 4th episode before the drop...but now it's dropped
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Easy enough to justify an edge lord asshole when you make the MC the target for every unscrupulous person in the world
And these people were incredibly stupid about it too. They may as well have worn signs around their neck saying "Just kill me."
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Easy enough to justify an edge lord asshole when you make the MC the target for every unscrupulous person in the world
And these people were incredibly stupid about it too. They may as well have worn signs around their neck saying "Just kill me."
@zkeleton Everyone that has crossed him has been an idiot. Which I suppose is fitting as he is also an idiot.

I'd like to see what happens when someone actually competent crosses him and he can't just eye gouge a middle aged man in front of his family to solve the situation.
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Ouch. The edge cut me.
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Ahhh you guys are no fun, of course these people are idiots and just like the people in his party they are all trying to screw him because they know his power and assume he is a weak loser. I mean it's the shows whole premise. And judging by the kick ass seekers who get to fly in airships they would normally be right...except for his edginess of course LOL. Dude's the grandson of the guy who beat Alma's dad so bad he had the kids of the women he raped in some village kill each other until there was only one left. He doesn't have some goody two shoes ambition like those other recent "underestimated hero" shows. This dude is just out to succeed at any cost, kind of refreshing IMO. And Alma, well I came for the boobs but I'll stay for the crazy, and she's definitely a special kind of crazy :P
Also the opening scene in the bed that had to be censored from the manga or something I mean what was she supposed to be wearing a wet towel? And what is he gay? Or Soooooo ambitious women just get in the way? Given with the way he dances in the OP I'm going with gay :D

edit yeah looked it up censored, but given the anime gave her biker shorts over the bikini bottoms of the manga I guess it's no surprise (and dang manga Alma is quite a bit thicker too)

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MenchiK1 said:
And what is he gay? Or Soooooo ambitious women just get in the way? Given with the way he dances in the OP I'm going with gay :D
The edgelords usually are too cool chasing their goals, mostly revenge, to have time for those pesky females. Except for the Arifureta guy, actually having a gf is one of the reasons I almost like him. And the Redo Healer MC doesn't count because screwing every woman he can is part of his revenge.
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And what is he gay? Or Soooooo ambitious women just get in the way? Given with the way he dances in the OP I'm going with gay :D
The edgelords usually are too cool chasing their goals, mostly revenge, to have time for those pesky females. Except for the Arifureta guy, actually having a gf is one of the reasons I almost like him. And the Redo Healer MC doesn't count because screwing every woman he can is part of his revenge.
@zkeleton Yeah, they always have some excuse like actually being a little happier with a gf is such an obstacle to whatever their edgy vengeance goal is. God forbid they have a positive emotion or some companionship it might make him soften up a bit from being a single minded serial killer.

Agreed with Arifureta. Not only does he have a long term relationship with a girl but the story makes sure to remind you here and there that yes they actually have intimate relations off screen and they can acknowledge it without acting embarrassed or shamed about it.
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Dude can't even give spare change to a homeless guy without being a massive asshole about it.
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Episode 5:

"Poor guy probably has hopes and dreams. Here's a silver for you."

2 minutes later...

"You mean I can keep him as a slave and all I gotta do is murder this gnome?!?"
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I don't think even this show is edgy enough for him to have straight up murdered that guy. So far we've only seen him be that horrible to people who have screwed him over somehow.
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I think I'm out. This show has no redeeming qualities and I don't care about any character in it.
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Episode 6:

Translations getting a little loose. Nobody in-universe called the guy a halfling.

Finally a character with a reasonable background is introduced. /s

But hey, Noel actually has to face consequences of his asshat actions this episode. That's something.
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Geez what a background. And yikes how many gallons of blood came out of his stump after having his arm cut off? If he wasn't on drugs he probably would have thought to have it done outside so he didn't have to clean the carpets.
This fight is what he gets for not bringing underboobs along to back him up. That and going soft, letting 3 guys he should have killed this episode.
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Episode 7:

Damn, Noel survived again.

At least he got more consequences (kind of).

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