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I'm ready, praying for 39 episodes
Peak is coming

@mohamedo_abuduru you can only get a consecutive 4 cours if ur sao levels of popularity. I think they will do 2 cours to cover arc 5 and 6 then leave the series on a high note.

Writing quality tanks at arc 7 because tappei doesn't know how to end the story.

@DEMSpirit There is so much wrong with this comment. 39 episodes is 3 cours, not four, and I never said anything about consecutive. Sao isn't that popular anymore compared to other series like JJK and Demon Slayer. Sao never got four consecutive cours. 2 cours isn't enough for arcs 5 and 6 to be adapted fully. Arc 7 isn't even close to the end of the story. I don't see how the writing quality tanked, although I'm not caught up. Tappei definitely knows how to end the story. He already has an ending in mind and has the whole rest of the series vaguely planned out as far as I know.

@mohamedo_abuduru the alicization 4 cours came out within like 2 years within another. It had the ggo cours right before. Tappei said it himself re zero needs 200 episodes to fully adapt the story. Re zero is nowhere near that profitable to go on that long. It will need blockbuster movies, many high end video games, insane circulation.

Re:Zero is still very profitable, if not they wouldn't pump out all those Rem (and Ram + Emilia) figures.

Also something like Monogatari definitely wasn't as popular and still got a full adaptation and a new spin-off has just been announced

@DEMSpirit If they want FREE money, they should start making IF Routes as Movie Adaptation.

@mohamedo_abuduru the alicization 4 cours came out within like 2 years within another. It had the ggo cours right before. Tappei said it himself re zero needs 200 episodes to fully adapt the story. Re zero is nowhere near that profitable to go on that long. It will need blockbuster movies, many high end video games, insane circulation.

@Okeanix movies are not that profitable. Not sure how it worked for konosuba. But tensura underperformed if not flopped. Re zero would need ordinal scale money for their first movie.

@DEMSpirit If movies aren't that profitable, why are more and more studios doing them now? I find it funny you say tensura flipped, considering it made more in box office than the recent Sao progressive movie did.

@mohamedo_abuduru scarlet bond had lower box office than progressive 1 but far more screenings. Progressive 2 had low amount of screenings but packed theatres. Quints beat scarlet bond despite fewer screenings. Gundam hathaway which wasn't even released in the west beated scarlet bond.

Scarlet bond massively underperformed. It had to make big at the box office.

@DEMSpirit I don't understand what you're trying to say. The fact is, tensura had a higher box office than progressive 2, and almost as much as 1. If tensura "massively underperformed" as you say, then what does that say about the Sao movies? I don't know shit about how expensive more movie screenings are compared to less, but I wouldn't think it would have an overly significant effect on profit. And no shit gundam beat tensura, it's gundam. Outside of big names like JJK 0, Mugen Train, and Makoto Shinkai movies, Western theatres are only a fraction of anime movie's box office, so that's not really a major point. And why do you say it "had to make it big at the box office"? As far as I know slime does well in merch sales, blu-ray sales, novel and manga sales, and season 3, which will be 2 cours was confirmed before the movie even aired.

@mohamedo_abuduru 12 million is very low for a box office debut of what is considered the highest selling ln series. Especially one with many episodes and a spinoff. Especially low if Crunchyroll moved fast to give a western release..

Gundam seed had no anime sequel for 20 years and managed to make double that in like a month.

@DEMSpirit once again, you only respond to like 10% my argument, and proceed to make nonsensical points. You say 12 million is very low box office for such a popular series with many episodes and a spin-off, but I can say the exact same thing for the Sao progressive movies, which performed similarly. And again, it's gundam dude. Gundam will always be popular.

Slightly off-topic but does anyone know if it's safe to browse/follow this https://twitter.com/Rezero_official account if I've only watched the anime? Are there spoilers from the novels?

@sucralose_ re zero really does not have that crazy level of spoilers where browsing the forums will ruin your enjoyment of the show. Anime onlies clearly get blinded by internet hype trains yet don't bother to look into the source and want people have said especially arc 7 onwards.

The anime community always hypes newer shows to an extreme. It doesn't always translate to success. The kaguya movie got hyped up extremely only for it to flop. Megumin spinoff got hyped extremely but became the biggest flop of all time.

Like I said before, it takes a big dip in arc 7. Oshi no ko also changed the dynamic for kadokawa since that is their true cash cow now.

@DEMSpirit I don't know what you smoking but anime-only will love Arc 7 & 8 more than previous ones. One Piece should be enough example.

Manga readers hated AoT Ending yet anime-only loved it.

@DEMSpirit I don't know what you smoking but anime-only will love Arc 7 & 8 more than previous ones. One Piece should be enough example.

Manga readers hated AoT Ending yet anime-only loved it.

@Okeanix sales dropped of very heavily going into arc 7
https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/183eral/sales_for_the_ln_are_concerning_spoiler_discussion/
2 of its gacha games have shutdown.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/11dz7ft/game_rezero_lost_in_memories_has_announced_its/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/17gmtqz/game_rezero_infinity_jp_version_has_announced_end/

It's newest gacha looks to be doa with under 100k twitter followers.
https://x.com/re_zero_WitchRe?t=9bYKeEL1a-gd-qrZJSB8bQ&s=09

It is too long.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Re_Zero/comments/n8c4ne/discussion_is_rezero_the_longest_isekai_even_in/

To fully adapt re zero you need more than double the length of aot's but re zero has a fraction of aot's budget. This means only hope is for re zero to have gundam seed/destiny level of disc sales which season 2 doesn't remotely have.

Oshi no ko changed the dynamic completely where kadokawa is no longer reliant on re zero to make money.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Konosuba/comments/15hgqer/i_think_megumin_spinoff_may_be_a_little_success/

@DEMSpirit You have no idea how series make a profit.

Re:Zero is not a manga series. For example, the Fate series doesn't have manga or novel sales, which means it has 0 sales. But it gets over 15+ 20+ anime adaptations. Ask why?

Re:Zero, like other light novels, visual novels, and anime originals, makes its money from views, bd sales, merchandise, gacha games, gambling machines, sponsorships and such. Re:Zero has very strong merchandise and gambling profits, more than any other anime. Re:Zero's anime viewership has always been at the top. If you look at Kadokawa stats, you'll see that even after Re:Zero finished airing, it remained in the top spot until it was dethroned by a new season of another series. It was the number 1 most watched anime on Netflix Japan and such.

Re:Zero light novel sales don't even account for 1% of the money the Re:Zero brand makes. It never has.

You can't claim that novel sales dropped, therefore the anime will get cancelled. While you may not understand it, Re:Zero anime doesn't need novels to continue. It's not a series designed to promote its source material like every manga series; it has its own brand, sponsorships, and such.

@Okeanix streams is irrelevant for re zero profits. This is because the primary producer of re zero is kadokawa. Not TV tokyo, Netflix, or crunchyroll. This is not like shield hero where crunchyroll funds the entire series due to insane streams.

Kadokawa makes money off ln sales (crashing) dropping, bd discs (dropping), as well as merch (no new rem and emilia figs announced at wonfes). The re zero gachas are dead and definitely did not make enough where they can solely fund re zero and take the franchise over from kadokawa. Since no merchandise sales go back to the gacha company. Vs dal where all dal profits go to hot game studio which in turn keeps their game running. Plus they have been active since 2018. If a re zero gacha start doing bad, kadokawa will revoke the license and give it to another company further burning the fans.

Kadokawa is not good at managing anime. They spent big to market the megumin spinoff only to have it be one of the biggest flops of all time.

Kadokawa can also divert re zero funds to oshi no Ko. Nothing stopping them from doing that

@DEMSpirit, Classroom of the Elite or Danmachi have had 10 times more novel sales in recent years, yet Re:Zero gets a 35-40 episode season while they receive low-budget 12-episode seasons.

Novel sales are not IMPORTANT! It has always been like this for every light novel!

So how does Re:Zero get such a huge season and budget while opponents who have 10 times more novel sales don't? Here are the reasons I put it above comment.

https://twitter.com/LoremIpsumVerb/status/1553007216596291585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1553007216596291585%7Ctwgr%5E0837bb2819c8cbbe0b56b4f8ba8cb03b728e57b9%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fwb5ewg%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

@Okeanix cote would have been cancelled back in season 1 due to abysmal streams and bd sales. But since kadokawa is the producer and cote is their highest selling ln right now, they can keep the anime going. Re zero is losing money across the board. Even in merchandising you have seen a noticeable decrease in rem, emilia, ram figures vs newer shows. Heck even konosuba lost and insane amount of merchandising deals after the spinoff flopped. Dal on the other hand seen an exponential increase since they divorced themselves from kadokawa.

Also those are 2022 numbers where kadokawa exclusively depended on overlord. Almost none of the dal and shield hero profits went to kadokawa since they stopped producing them.

This twitter account shows what kadokawa is producing.
https://x.com/KADOKAWAanime?t=3svNsUTJcA0ly5faHABTeg&s=09

I showed you how oshi no ko is now kadokawa's highest performing franchise.

@DEMSpirit If novel sales were actually as 'IMPORTANT' as you said, Tappei would stop writing the web novel and only sell light novels, which would generate 4-5 times more sales without the free web novel that currently outperforms the LN a lot.

Of course, there would be a decrease, considering it's almost 3-4 years after Season 2. However, investing in Season 3 could yield a significant return. Moreover, profit could be made from new merchandise featuring other characters from Re:Zero, which are extensively explored and developed in Season 3. Reinhard figurines would generate hype similar to that of Gojo and others.

Seasons 1 and 2 generated substantial revenue, and the content of Season 3 is likely to replicate this success. With 38 episodes in Season 3, confirmation of Season 4 is practically assured. Production Company wouldn't produce a season of over 30 episodes if Season 4 wasn't going to be confirmed.

In the future, when series like ONE PIECE end, people will move on to series like Re:Zero, which by then will have a significant amount of content.

@Okeanix no one ever confirmed season 3 has 38 episodes let alone season 4 was in the works. Leaks have been proven wrong time and time again.

Making more rem, emilia, ram, echidnu figures is beating a dead horse. They will need a new waifu. Also male light novel figures never sell.

Arc 7 is so long, they pretty much need arc 5 and 6 to sell on levels of gundam seed/destiny. There is a reason the toaru index never tried adapting new testament.

@DEMSpirit


Are you going to accept that you are wrong about everything when Season 3 is confirmed to have more than 25 episodes, which is the usual length?

Leaks that have been proven wrong are leaks made by random people, not trustworthy sources, while the confirmation of Season 3 having more than 25 episodes comes from a leaker who has predicted everything correctly in past years.


They can sell. There wasn't a character like Reinhard before in the light novel series, which gives off the same vibe as Gojo Satoru to female audience of Re:Zero.

New Waifu? Shaula will sell a lot. With scenes adapted in Arc 6, it will be one of the best-selling. Priscilla will also sell a lot; Ram merchandise and sales will increase significantly after Season 3. Anastasia will also sell, among others. There are over 20 characters getting the spotlight in Season 3, unlike previous seasons where Subaru was the only focus.


Arc 3 is 25 episodes long (6 LN Volumes same as S2), yet it was cut down to 14 episodes without even extended duration.

Arcs 7 and 8, with fast pacing and cuts, can easily be covered in 40 episodes, as predicted for Season 3.

@Okeanix Priscilla and Anastasia, reinhard are already in the anime and get no figures. They cannot just take any random character and expect people to eat it up. That character has to so something to earn it. Like best boy or girl.

Ln series do not work like a big shonen that is already planning on adapting it all. They work based on whether the previous season was a success. Kadokawa has never really adapted light novels to the end.

@DEMSpirit Reinhard appears in the anime, but he barely gets any spotlight, just like Priscilla and Anastasia.

In Season 3, Reinhard will receive the spotlight, as he fights alongside the main protagonist against the main antagonists. This season will delve deeper into his character, strengths, and drama, providing a more fleshed-out portrayal.


Because there isn't a series like Re:ZERO. There's not even a need to mention that Re:Zero Season 3 will adapt Volumes 15-25, more than any other LN series has been adapted.

Clearly, you haven't read Re:ZERO. The first two seasons are made for novels, but afterward, it becomes even more enjoyable in the anime format. For instance, Arc 7, as you mentioned, will be much more enjoyable in the anime, similar to Arc 5 will be.

@Okeanix you clearly have never heard of the sao or toaru series if you think re zero is the ONLY series to have adapted as many novels. Sao is handled by aniplex. Toaru stopped at new testament.

All the easy covid money is gone. Where is tappei going to get all the money for 100+ more episodes. All the re zero games have shutdown. Light novel sales collapsed. The next one will be a flop. The figure market is in free fall with most binning. Streaming killed the disc market and even streaming is struggling to be profitable.

@Okeanix you clearly have never heard of the sao or toaru series if you think re zero is the ONLY series to have adapted as many novels. Sao is handled by aniplex. Toaru stopped at new testament.

All the easy covid money is gone. Where is tappei going to get all the money for 100+ more episodes. All the re zero games have shutdown. Light novel sales collapsed. The next one will be a flop. The figure market is in free fall with most binning. Streaming killed the disc market and even streaming is struggling to be profitable.

@DEMSpirit a 10 second search shows that neither Sao nor the index main series have adapted 25 volumes. Sao isn't even close, stop glazing it so hard. The only thing that comes to mind is monogatari, now that off and monster season adaptations are confirmed. It's at 28 volumes now.
I'm not even going to address your second point. You have to be trolling with this shit.

I'm ready, praying for 39 episodes
Peak is coming

@mohamedo_abuduru do ur research. Sao was originally only supposed to be 18 volumes (based on the WN) but kawahara decided to extend it later on. The sao main series was finished in 2008. Sao is still releasing movies and spinoffs until unital ring is finished. Sao is a massive cash cow. No other ln series could make a film that matched ordinal scale in box office. Unitas ring is guaranteed to get adapted. It is not yet finished so a1 is sticking to progressive films.

Toaru has more episodes out of a ln series franchise period.

Re zero is nowhere close to Sao or toaru in franchise growth.

@DEMSpirit mb, didn't realize ordinal scale was five entire volumes, so when you add up that with all of progressive that's been adapted, it's a little ahead. Not that that has anything to do with what you're saying, I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Who asked when the sao main series finished. You say no other LN series could make a film that matched ordinal scale in box office. How tf do you know? The new tensura movie that according to you "flopped miserably" made over half of what ordinal scale did in japan. And considering that people tend to go to the movies less often now, instead pirating, waiting for digital release, etc, I don't think you can accurately compare the two anymore. And even then, I don't feel like ordinal scale is a particularly unsurpassable bar. An actually good, well-marketed movie adaptation of many popular light novels right now could definitely surpass it. And I know that toaru has more total volumes adapted when you include railgun and accelerator. But its also been adapting content for far longer than re zero. And considering studio White Fox's recent difficulties, I don't think it's really surprising that toaru has more content adapted. Same with sao.

@mohamedo_abuduru gundam seed freedom became the highest grossing gundam film despite not having an installment for 20 years. There goes ur excuse for scarlet bond doing so poorly.

Ordinal scale was anime original.

Pirating is a bs excuse since you will go to jail for it in japan vs in the us. Ur just fishing for excuses because newer fans are biased towards tensura since it was a new hit series.

Stop acting like white fox is the only studio with difficulties. Re zero is like the only fandom that complains about their studio. Aot fans don't even complain as much as re zero when mappa had to make an almost impossible deadline.