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Mar 6, 2013 5:49 PM

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No problem. I kind of agree though on it not making much sense.
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Genjutsu and Fuuinjutsu

Can you update that so we can have a better understanding of how they work since the whole posts thing makes it seem confusing so would be nice for better clarity and maybe some example battles to work from...
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Mar 27, 2013 4:48 AM
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Right now it seems we only have Talia, Psynergi and Baxter as active admins with occasional visits by Shadow and MotionBlue...

We need more active admins, or atleast give some of the other admins some small duties like, a dedicated thread grading for Shadow maybe, who knows but anyways... we need to do something , we have 617 Members of which only 8 are active 3 admins are active , other admins visit and the other 600 either are not on MAL, died from old age , gave up anime(shudders to think) or just left for a more active RP area?, although we are probably the most active RP club in the whole of MAL...with Flirt RP Club gaining many followers (shudders again then shoots self in head to remove that image)
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Mar 27, 2013 5:47 PM
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I have a good idea I think you should have a certain amount of ninjutsu skill needed to summon a animal that way not just everyone can be summoners
Mar 27, 2013 9:45 PM
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VisionZA said:
Right now it seems we only have Talia, Psynergi and Baxter as active admins with occasional visits by Shadow and MotionBlue...

We need more active admins, or atleast give some of the other admins some small duties like, a dedicated thread grading for Shadow maybe, who knows but anyways... we need to do something , we have 617 Members of which only 8 are active 3 admins are active , other admins visit and the other 600 either are not on MAL, died from old age , gave up anime(shudders to think) or just left for a more active RP area?, although we are probably the most active RP club in the whole of MAL...with Flirt RP Club gaining many followers (shudders again then shoots self in head to remove that image)

We actually have about 25 active members, some of which are currently MIA due to RL stuff:
Kaos, hoshi, jyenh, haissum, billzor, kant, motion, kyo, psy, bax, me, tali, shadow, panda, syrai, you, ruseo, miku, mei, sound, and a few other's who's names are currently slipping my mind. As for assigning duties, that was once tried in another club--one piece--where shadow and I got stuck grading (mostly because everyone else was lazy) it failed, because shadow and I got tired of grading everything. Plus, shadow is often times busy with RL stuff, as is a majority of the other admin's :)

◦It feels so close to me, yet i can't grasp it even if i extend my hands. Even so ... Even if i cant reach it ... there are things that will stay in my heart. Being in the same time and looking up at the same sky, If i can remember that, then even when we are apart from each other, I believe that we can be together. I will run forward now. If i set my goal far enough, then someday .. I'll be able to reach what I aimed for.
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Mar 27, 2013 9:48 PM
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MikuIzumi said:
I have a good idea I think you should have a certain amount of ninjutsu skill needed to summon a animal that way not just everyone can be summoners


I believe this was tried once before, and failed epically. The idea of this club, is anyone and everyone can achieve things, if propperly earned. I believe (though I might be mistaken,) that Kyo, psy, and one of the old admins (hai maybe?) astablished a way to become a summoner:
1) Go through a signing process by an admin lead NPC
2) be chunin rank or higher
3) not be a dumbass :P

Getting sage mode was harder, only because I was used for the origenal template--being first to actually earn sage mode (out side of administration) that process is discribed in one of the threads some wares ^.^

◦It feels so close to me, yet i can't grasp it even if i extend my hands. Even so ... Even if i cant reach it ... there are things that will stay in my heart. Being in the same time and looking up at the same sky, If i can remember that, then even when we are apart from each other, I believe that we can be together. I will run forward now. If i set my goal far enough, then someday .. I'll be able to reach what I aimed for.
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Mar 28, 2013 9:24 AM

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VisionZA said:
Right now it seems we only have Talia, Psynergi and Baxter as active admins with occasional visits by Shadow and MotionBlue...

We need more active admins, or atleast give some of the other admins some small duties like, a dedicated thread grading for Shadow maybe, who knows but anyways... we need to do something , we have 617 Members of which only 8 are active 3 admins are active , other admins visit and the other 600 either are not on MAL, died from old age , gave up anime(shudders to think) or just left for a more active RP area?, although we are probably the most active RP club in the whole of MAL...with Flirt RP Club gaining many followers (shudders again then shoots self in head to remove that image)

We actually have about 25 active members, some of which are currently MIA due to RL stuff:
Kaos, hoshi, jyenh, haissum, billzor, kant, motion, kyo, psy, bax, me, tali, shadow, panda, syrai, you, ruseo, miku, mei, sound, and a few other's who's names are currently slipping my mind. As for assigning duties, that was once tried in another club--one piece--where shadow and I got stuck grading (mostly because everyone else was lazy) it failed, because shadow and I got tired of grading everything. Plus, shadow is often times busy with RL stuff, as is a majority of the other admin's :)


How could you forget my name from this list. i'm hurt
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Mar 30, 2013 12:12 AM
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An Idea

Anyways I have an ideas of a stat rework and wanna know what you think of it.

Firstly the stats are unbalanced cause you can either go 2000genjutsu 2000 intelligence some chakra and maybe speed to catch them and bam Permagenjutsu.. this probably why tsukiyomi had to be banned, but the genjutsu system itself was OP not the technique

Secondly you could just go 2000 Taijutsu(is actually an agility stat) 2000 strength and 2000 speed. You are too fast for anyone to touch and your strength is so insane you could pretty much beat anyone up before they can even blink...

The stats do not all together make sense since the stats in my eyes should be seperated...

Now that the lecture is done let me introduce my idea to you
Anything in bold has more or less stayed the same

6 Base Stats...
Strength : How strong you are
Agility : sub-stat - Hand Seals : perform hand seals faster
- Limb Movements : Punch kick and hit fast
- Weaving : Ability to evade better
you either put stats into one or spread them out
( prevents taijutsu users from perma hitting people )
Speed : How fast you move your whole body
Intelligence : Basically boosts genjutsu medical jutsu etc. (you get it?)
Also makes you smarter
Chakra : Increases your chakra total
Chakra Control : Reduces CP costs (formally ninjutsu) also allows
use of certain abilities or skills which require this.
You also require points in this inorder to gain Nature
and Form Manipulation.

Those are base stats , they would then feed off of SP which you would probably have to reduce the total on...

Skills Stats
I really believed your capabilites and your focus are totally different. Not everyone with great chakra control is going to be medical shinobi or sealing specialists etc... also not every strong person will use taijutsu.. but every taijutsu user must have strength as well as agility.

Skill stats work on a rank dependant on your current level be that Genin Chunin Special Jonin Jonin ANBU or Kage. This would actually work out and i can already restat accordingly in a way that would make sense.

And all E-rank skills can be learnt someway or somehow by all regardless of rank in Skill stats , but will still require the base stats needed for it to be used.

You have the option of having one skill a rank above you at the price of having no secondary skill on your current level
Example : Chunin has B-rank Ninjutsu , however can only use D-rank Taijutsu..
Example 2: Chunin can use C-rank Ninjutsu,Taijutsu and Genjutsu
Example 3: Chunin can use all styles at D-rank (extreme case)
but you get the idea

ninjutsu : After reaching A-rank you may use secondary element up to B-rank, however if you have a third element it will be A - C - C . you may not have any secondary B-rank if you have S-rank for an element , you have the option of having 2 A-ranks at this time or A B B for three elements

( this helps relate to people having multiple elements whether they specialise in one with low ranks of others or have a few semiranked for variety. ) Chikusa would at minimum be at B-rank for this stat, while Raysha might actually qualify for A-rank since she only has one element and no other strengths to fall back on.

Ninjutsu atleast requires some points in chakra control and agility handseals.

Taijutsu : Used for physical combat in hand to hand. Requires Strength Agility and Speed at least. Total of these affects how high you you can rank this up.

Genjutsu : Used to place opponents in illusions. Requires points in chakra,intelligence and chakra-control.

Fuuinjutsu : Sealing techniques , requires intelligence and chakra control. May need speed to be effective as you may need to forcefully place seals upon people.

Puppet Jutsu : the control and use of puppets. Requires agility limb movements( later switched to handseals when using fingers ) chakra control and intelligence. User also requires weapon skills in order to let puppets use weapons and ninjutsu to let them use jutsu skills as well as requiring and other skills.

Medical Jutsu : healing and medical techniques . Requires chakra control , intelligence and later on chakra(S-rank requires a good chakra supply )

Doujutsu : Eye techniques , everyone using an eye technique requires this inorder to be more effective. Also requires some intelligence, chakra.. depending on doujutsu may require chakra control as well .
The sharingan could be graded as D-1tomoe C-2tomoe B-3tomoe , A-rank would be if you allowed genjutsu. S-rank would be Mangekyo, and would basically retard your other skills at the price of having high level techniques with your eyes only.
EMS : would have to be nerfed no matter how badly we fight for it , since this technique goes beyond the level of a mere S-rank( sometimes i think this is Saiyan rank lol) anyways therefor, EMS along with Rinnegan would be SS-rank meaning you either become an admin or earn it by become the Kage or some insane thing like that. If you fail your character dies forever...

Weapon Skills : Long Range ( bows, daggers , kunai etc)
Mid Range ( polearm's , shuriken, daggers etc)
Short Range ( swords, daggers etc...)

Kunai is useful at all ranges lol... Long range requires skill though

anyways tell me what ya think
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Mar 30, 2013 10:49 AM

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Not really sure how all of this would help with what you said at the beginning with the chance of all of them being OP. It is still there in this system.
For Nin, you still only need 3 stats (agil. hand seals, chakra, chakra control). If anything nin got nerfed the most since before you really only needed to put SP into chakra and nin to be a power house.
For Gen, still just need to put in only 3 stats just like you are saying they need to now (intel, chakra, chakra control).
With Tai, same thing. Only need to put in 3 again (agil limb, strength, and speed).

Agility limb movements and weaving should really be the same thing in my opinion. I can kick fast, but I can't move my leg out of the way in time with that same agility?

We've already talked about intelligence making a character smarter and we all opposed it because none of us are going to make our characters stupid unless we actually want to. So a stat isn't going to determine that.

There are going to be borderline OP stats when you take the most extreme cases like those no matter what. That's what is going to happen when you have different styles of combat that use different stats to become good at those. The only way it could ever be an even playing field is if every style of combat had to put SP in the same stats. But when they all use different stats, they are going to have disparity.


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Mar 30, 2013 2:39 PM

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Thank you Loki for summing it up rather eloquently.
Apr 1, 2013 9:46 AM

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No problem Tali ^^ I don't have anything to say at this point about the skill stats part though. Still trying to wrap my head around it. Though I do have to say that I was alright with this statement below until the very end.

"I really believed your capabilites and your focus are totally different. Not everyone with great chakra control is going to be medical shinobi or sealing specialists etc... also not every strong person will use taijutsu.. but every taijutsu user must have strength as well as agility."

Conventionally, tai users probably do need strength and/or agility. However, that is not a law or even a rule even in the real world that they need both. If you are super strong and a tank, then you don't necessarily need agility. If you are really quick and agile, you don't need to be strong. That can be replaced by speed and using the opponent's momentum against them.

Saying Tai must have strength AND agility is like saying Nin users MUST have sp in Chakra to be good. They really don't, it just lets them have the ability to use more ninjutsu. They don't necessarily need a bigger chakra pool to be better. Someone with less chakra can take down someone with massive chakra. Just like someone who is agile can take down someone with strength and vice versa.

Should someone going into tai at least specialize in one of the two stats to be good (strength and agility)? Of course. If you don't have at least one, then you probably won't be too successful. But you don't really need both. (Especially when they have an ability like Saeko's XD) That's just how I see it.


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Apr 17, 2013 3:25 PM

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i don't believe there to be a true place to state created techniques and bloodlines, i recommend a list of useable non-created bloodlines (personal bloodlines could also be put there, though it would need to be stated if there okay for others to use as well) and a tab for all created justu. When a jutus is done being ranked, it could be put with the others in the tab (the admin that ranks it should also state if the jutsu can be used by others as well).


The link we go to for jutsu is okay, but its outdated and jutsu keep being repeated, its boring, its more fun to use created techniques but with the limit of 2 for genin (though wise) ,your stuck using the boring basic jutsu that everyone else knows, i belive this would make the game more fun and add a wider range of skills.
Apr 18, 2013 6:38 AM
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I agree, but i dont think the created jutsu should be limited. Even if it would, 2 is not enough.5 created jutsus would be good, i think
I am the bone of my sword
Steel is my body, and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades,
Unknown to death, nor known to life.
Have whitstood pain to create many weapons,
Yet, these hands will never hold anything,
So, as I pray: Unlimited Blade Works
And though I had slain a thousand foes less one,
The thousandth knife found my liver;
The thousandth enemy said to me,
'Now you shall die,
Now none shall know.'
And the fool, looking down, believed this,
Not seeing, above his shoulders, the naked stars,
Each one remembering.
Apr 18, 2013 12:24 PM

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no. then you would be stuck reading all the created jutsu for an hour. you want more? work for it, cus as a genin you can only use E and D ranks. at 500 sp you can use C ranks. Then you go rank up and get 2 more created jutsu
Apr 19, 2013 4:43 AM
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But my character practically uses only created jutsu :((
I am the bone of my sword
Steel is my body, and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades,
Unknown to death, nor known to life.
Have whitstood pain to create many weapons,
Yet, these hands will never hold anything,
So, as I pray: Unlimited Blade Works
And though I had slain a thousand foes less one,
The thousandth knife found my liver;
The thousandth enemy said to me,
'Now you shall die,
Now none shall know.'
And the fool, looking down, believed this,
Not seeing, above his shoulders, the naked stars,
Each one remembering.
Apr 19, 2013 10:57 AM

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no, lightning palm is a created technique but all palm attacks are a branch of the hyuuga taijutsu fighting style
Jun 3, 2013 4:01 PM

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i recommend stat perks that we can base are skills off of instead of saying your fast then someone just because of 20 points. level the playing field out a little more and make fights more enjoyable. it would also give member a goal to work tord that is much lower then the already very high bar there is.
Jun 6, 2013 7:49 AM
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I suggest that people stop running away or running around and comeback and keep the threads moving
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