| Why is there no Gender Bender genre? There are many anime's and manga's that the primary theme is based around a character that changes sex/gender the problems social interactions and concepts involved. Yet my anime list has no category for it. There are many out there but it can be hard to find good ones I thought myanime list might be an excellent choice as it has a constantly expanding list of mangas and anime that people have added to your database but alas nope. Some popular and or good gender benders... off the top of my head.... Ranma 1/2 / Futuba can change / Pretty Face / Gacha Gacha the next.. / Kampfer etc etc. I would gladly point out animes that need the genre added if you added the genre to the list. Also fyi about me as this is my first post I am an administrator over at www.rpgrevolution.com A site dedicated to the rpgmaker programs that let you make your own rpg game with the program. I also manage / moderate the chat and gallery for the site aside from doing art logos and other stuff as needed of me feel free to let me know if you guys ever need some art done for here I'll see what I can do. |
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| +1 i rather not have traps in the gender bending category because sometimes being a trap is a spoiler. |
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| by trap are you referring to a gender bender? do you mean it as the word is defined in the urban dicionary here? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trap&defid=2566975 if so I'd personally prefer that yo didn't use that word as it's extremely degrading to transgender people. I myself am transgender. |
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| when you do advanced search there is no genre tag for gender bender. you can search by tags but its really more a genre thing and more appropriate as a genre |
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| under advanced search for anime there isno gender bender genre maybe th manga has it but not the search function for anime |
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| lol, this reminds me of the time when someone asked for a loli genre. the better question would be, why do we have a dementia genre? |
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Metroid_Ex said: What does that even mean. Does Chihiro from Ef Tale of Memories qualify?lol, this reminds me of the time when someone asked for a loli genre. the better question would be, why do we have a dementia genre? While we're discussing new genres, I'd propose cutting down on them instead; many seem useless. What is the difference between Action and Adventure? What is the difference between Magic, Supernatural and Super Powers? What is the difference between Thriller, Horror, Psychological and Drama? why is there a genre for cars? This should be a discussion on its own, but I'll raise it here anyway. I don't think Gender Bender should be a genre, as it isn't all too hard to find gender bender anime (recommendations?), on the other hand I think the genre listing should be fixed to make it easier to search for anime you want. |
Sohei said: Metroid_Ex said: What does that even mean. Does Chihiro from Ef Tale of Memories qualify?lol, this reminds me of the time when someone asked for a loli genre. the better question would be, why do we have a dementia genre? While we're discussing new genres, I'd propose cutting down on them instead; many seem useless. What is the difference between Action and Adventure? What is the difference between Magic, Supernatural and Super Powers? What is the difference between Thriller, Horror, Psychological and Drama? why is there a genre for cars? This should be a discussion on its own, but I'll raise it here anyway. I don't think Gender Bender should be a genre, as it isn't all too hard to find gender bender anime (recommendations?), on the other hand I think the genre listing should be fixed to make it easier to search for anime you want. there is a difference between Action and Adventure mind you. Spice and Wolf Season 1 and Kino's Journey are adventure and while on might put the action tag on Kino's Journey I doubt they would for Spice and Wolf. Action: Adventure: Cars: To specific, if its racing it might as well be under the Sports genre. Comedy: Dementia: To specific, and you hardly see it. See Psychological genre. Demons: See Horror and or Supernatural Drama: Ecchi: Fantasy: Game: See sports (Chess and Mahjong can be considered sports, but oh well. Card games, ok, fine keep this tag But if I see this tag under another anime adaption of a video game, I'll sue.) Harem: Hentai: Historical: we need more historical anime, not anime that take place in the past but actual historic anime. Horror: Kids: I'd rather not categorize anime by sex or age intention Magic: See supernatural, oh fuck wait, I allowed Mecha, so I need to have my Magical girl genre. Martial Arts: Wait wut? We have action, whats this for? Mecha: See Sci-fi, Oh wait, nvm this is anime we're talking about here. Military: Music: la-la-la-la-la Mystery: Parody: would say see comedy but that genre is so fuckin big that this sub-genre is needed Police: To specific and unneeded. Also, see Mystery in most cases. Psychological: Samurai: I lol'd, at the idiocy of this so called genre. Way to specific. See Action. Romance: School: Uh, thats in the majority of anime and it's really not a genre Sci-Fi: Shoujo: I'd rather not categorize anime by sex or age intention Shoujo Ai: See Yuri Shounen: I'd rather not categorize anime by sex or age intention Shounen Ai: See Yaoi Slice of Life: Space: Sports: See Game Supernatural: Super Power: No, just no Vampire: Way to specific, we have the Supernatural genre for this. Yaoi: Yuri: Thriller: Seinen: I'd rather not categorize anime by sex or age intention Josei: I'd rather not categorize anime by sex or age intention |
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| http://myanimelist.net/manga.php?genre[]=44 Here's your manga Gender Bender genre. (copy/paste it since the [] screws up the link but is necessary for the link to work properly) Now I'm no expert in this, but is Shoujo Ai = Yuri and Shounen Ai = Yaoi? I thought Yuri and Yaoi were more sexual whereas Ai was romance. |
CaMaVanDec 12, 2009 4:31 PM
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CaMaVan said: I know, but do we really, need 2 gay genres and 2 lesbian genres. No, just put Yaoi/Yuri + Romance genre to get the point across.http://myanimelist.net/manga.php?genre[]=44 Here's your manga Gender Bender genre. (copy/paste it since the [] screws up the link but is necessary for the link to work properly) Now I'm no expert in this, but is Shoujo Ai = Yuri and Shounen Ai = Yaoi? I thought Yuri and Yaoi were more sexual whereas Ai was romance. |
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Metroid_Ex said: CaMaVan said: I know, but do we really, need 2 gay genres and 2 lesbian genres. No, just put Yaoi/Yuri + Romance genre to get the point across.http://myanimelist.net/manga.php?genre[]=44 Here's your manga Gender Bender genre. (copy/paste it since the [] screws up the link but is necessary for the link to work properly) Now I'm no expert in this, but is Shoujo Ai = Yuri and Shounen Ai = Yaoi? I thought Yuri and Yaoi were more sexual whereas Ai was romance. This confuses me too. The explanation for it is that yaoi/yuri are considered by MAL to be terms that mean "sexually explicit." But then, we do have a hentai tag. o_O So why not merge all of yaoi with shonen-ai and all of yuri with shojo-ai and then use the hentai tag for pornography? Sounds sensible, right? Although I will say, bara needs its own tag. Bara is homoerotica that is written by men, for men (whereas yaoi is by women, for women), so the subject matter and the way the stories are written are totally different. It also annoys bara artists when their work is labeled as "yaoi." Which, on MAL, it is. Anyway, we started a bara club as a way to tag bara (by adding it to the club's relations), but it would be better to have a genre tag. |
| Not that I really see it happening (and there's at least 3 other genre threads here too), but if you merge those, yuri and BL should be the terms used since that's what they are actually called (although girl's love is also used.. I don't follow percentage of what's favored :-p). I despise the ones currently used, but I'm guessing they were put in that way to follow the western manga market which still uses the outdated terms. Bara would be nice too. |
| I think there shouldn't be so many genres when it all mean the same thing: yuri and BL. However, to change all of the duplicate genres into these two will probably take a lot of time considering how large the anime and manga database are. Might as well leave it as it is unless the moderators are willing to waste their time.. |
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| Well if there's a manga gender bender genre then we need an anime genre for it too. Gender bender is a distinct kind of story all to it's own it definitely deserves it's own category... Gender benders give an inside look into the lives of girls and boys and often coming of age. They also explain how the world is different for girls vs boys. The same exact daily experiences that a boy and girl both have are different. I don't just mean sex but literally everything how they interact with people how strangers treat them, what is socially expected of them etc. Trust me I should know> :) As far as the two "gay" and 2 "lesbian" categories one is for more kinda romantic not so explicit love like romance between 2 girls or 2 guys and the other is more to the point of actual love affairs relationships and sex. Only someone that has never read the mangas would ever mistake them for being the same thing. If your looking for the flirty fun romance and love triangles the lighter one is what you want for actual close relationships and sex it's the harder version. combining them would be like combining romance ecchi and hentai which I think everyone here can admit there is a difference between those three. Roamnce is just the love games. Ecchi is mangas usually romance based but not always that have fan service in the form of lots of excuses for body shots and semi nude scenes. Hentai is just sex. The matter is that it seems they accidentally left out gender bender for the anime and not the manga so we need that fixed. |
From_ArielDec 13, 2009 2:16 PM
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shinkeikaku said: Not that I really see it happening (and there's at least 3 other genre threads here too), but if you merge those, yuri and BL should be the terms used since that's what they are actually called (although girl's love is also used.. I don't follow percentage of what's favored :-p). I despise the ones currently used, but I'm guessing they were put in that way to follow the western manga market which still uses the outdated terms. Bara would be nice too. Yaoi is definitely outdated (as a term), however, the western market still uses it almost exclusively. (Although it seems like scanlators prefer BL, and MAL caters more to people that read scanlations.) As for "girl's love," my understanding is that it is only used in the west, and in Japan it is used as a synonym for loli-con. From_Ariel said: As far as the two "gay" and 2 "lesbian" categories one is for more kinda romantic not so explicit love like romance between 2 girls or 2 guys and the other is more to the point of actual love affairs relationships and sex. Only someone that has never read the mangas would ever mistake them for being the same thing. If your looking for the flirty fun romance and love triangles the lighter one is what you want for actual close relationships and sex it's the harder version. But isn't that covered under shojo and josei? (What you refer to as "shonen-ai" would be BL tagged as "shojo", while what you are calling yaoi would be BL tagged as "josei") As with the "hentai" genre tag, I think we could use two tags (such as BL and shojo) to designate that difference, instead of shonen-ai/yaoi which is more subjective. |
ScrumYummy said: Yeah, that's why I don't think it will ever be changed. There's "Yaoi Press" after all! And things marketed as "shounen ai." If you go to other corners of the internet, you get readers who don't know what BL stands for even though they're reading BL works due to this.Yaoi is definitely outdated (as a term), however, the western market still uses it almost exclusively. (Although it seems like scanlators prefer BL, and MAL caters more to people that read scanlations.) As for "girl's love," my understanding is that it is only used in the west, and in Japan it is used as a synonym for loli-con. You do see some emerging use of girl's love (GL) in Japanese (they use the actual English words, not shoujo ai which is different). Yuri is still the main one, but I don't follow it as much as BL. So you have boy's love, girl's love, and men's love, all in English. Makes it sound cool or something. :3 |
| ...but more to my topic how do we get the anime genre fixed so there's the gender bender??? Who needs to be notified to fix it? I mean the fact that there's a manga bender bender cat and not for anime means it was clearly left out on accident right? |
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