| Just a thought. . . and if there aren't any silent boys, why not? |
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| lol no of course we dont care. lol at least in this club. |
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| Yeah, I suppose that makes sense . . . |
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| I could care less, even as a female. Silent Girl Moe is way better :/ |
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| Well Silent boys are... too many things... they could be too many things... A silent boy can be: a Pervert, Silent person, emo person, dead person, thinker, nerd... Not that these things are bad... its just that when you see a silent boy, he could be anything... When you see a silent girl... she's moe!!!... :D and she freaking pwns... :) nothing more than that :D |
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| Girls are much more win<3 But there is Hanajima's brother in Furuba, who just sits in the cupboard. xP |
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| can they catch our ears with the same soft voice our girls use to captivate our hearts ? if the answer is can't, then NO. |
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| I care too. I think silent girls are a bit more intriguing. But it does kind of work for both sides. When a person who talks a lot says something we all listen, but when someone who doesn't talk a lot says something its MONUMENTAL. I think a great example of a silent guy who only says things upon occasion that inflict females with moe is Kaname from Vampire Knight. |
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| There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. |
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Wind-UpBird said: There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. Males aren't moe? O_O Have you seen Ouran High School Host Club? Maybe i can understand that males aren't SILENT moe, but they definitely have their own moe moments XD |
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Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. Males aren't moe? O_O Have you seen Ouran High School Host Club? Maybe i can understand that males aren't SILENT moe, but they definitely have their own moe moments XD Keep in mind that this is from a heterosexual male's point of view. |
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Wind-UpBird said: Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. Males aren't moe? O_O Have you seen Ouran High School Host Club? Maybe i can understand that males aren't SILENT moe, but they definitely have their own moe moments XD Keep in mind that this is from a heterosexual male's point of view. Ok...But i'm a heterosexual female and its fine for me to say that females can be moe... |
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| Okay, so at the moment I seem to have developed an opinion on this matter, so I'll share it... There sure as hell is. Just look at many of the guys that try to have a tough silent guy appearance but are just pained on the inside. I may even dare to say that it is quite similar to silent girl moe. Harima from school rumble comes to mind, though perhaps not the most silent. Obviously there aren't that many to mention, with a lot of anime focused on the male audience and lacking presence of moe male characters in favour of GAR male characters or female archetypes. (Keeping in mind I haven't travelled too far into the world of shoujo anime) |
Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. Males aren't moe? O_O Have you seen Ouran High School Host Club? Maybe i can understand that males aren't SILENT moe, but they definitely have their own moe moments XD Keep in mind that this is from a heterosexual male's point of view. Ok...But i'm a heterosexual female and its fine for me to say that females can be moe... Males and females have always been different. Anyone can look at an attractive girl and think that she is attractive, but many males (I included) have a difficult time distinguishing the unattractive from the attractive among other males. Obviously the outliers I can tell, but the I can't differentiate between the shades of gray. Also, like asandari, I haven't really delved into the shoujo genre. I can say that it seems that females aren't looking for a moe (shotacon is an exception for some) in a male character. I don't think cool is moe, which seems to be the most attractive to girls. Younger ones at least. By the way, what is GAR? |
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Wind-UpBird said: Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: Hinata020 said: Wind-UpBird said: There are silent boys, but usually they are thought of as cool. It isn't worthy of this group. Males aren't moe. Males aren't moe? O_O Have you seen Ouran High School Host Club? Maybe i can understand that males aren't SILENT moe, but they definitely have their own moe moments XD Keep in mind that this is from a heterosexual male's point of view. Ok...But i'm a heterosexual female and its fine for me to say that females can be moe... Males and females have always been different. Anyone can look at an attractive girl and think that she is attractive, but many males (I included) have a difficult time distinguishing the unattractive from the attractive among other males. Obviously the outliers I can tell, but the I can't differentiate between the shades of gray. Also, like asandari, I haven't really delved into the shoujo genre. I can say that it seems that females aren't looking for a moe (shotacon is an exception for some) in a male character. I don't think cool is moe, which seems to be the most attractive to girls. Younger ones at least. By the way, what is GAR? Fair enough :) I can understand where you're coming from with that. Alot of my guy friends are the same. Where they refuse to say whether or not they think a guy is god looking because people with automatically think the're 'gay' which is ashame, but oh well... And sorry for assuming you'd seen shoujo anime's. I just thought you had since you were part of this club and its hard to find good moe out side of shoujo. GAR:" A term used towards male characters and individuals who are so overwhelmingly manly that your own masculinity is absolutely *buried*, leaving you naught but a whimpering, swooning girl-child before them." or so they say, it was the first time i'd heard the term too :D |
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| OK, the quoting business has gone on too long. I'll just start fresh. It isn't that I am homophobic, I just have a difficult time. Honestly, I'm not just making excuses. It is and has always been a very sexist society that we have built. We have divided up males and females in a variety of ways. We have come up with many words that objectify females, so it is really quite a bit easier to do than males. asandari said: Obviously there aren't that many to mention, with a lot of anime focused on the male audience and lacking presence of moe male characters in favour of GAR male characters or female archetypes. With the new knowledge of GAR in mind, that really makes a lot of sense. The Japanese have words like Tsundere. That's all you need to know. |
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Wind-UpBird said: With the new knowledge of GAR in mind, that really makes a lot of sense. The Japanese have words like Tsundere. That's all you need to know. Tsundere?...Now where have i heard that before...That means a cold person who is all lovey-dovey in front of their lover...correct? Oddly enough, after seeing GAR in this thread, I've been seeing it everywhere...they was a whole To-Love-Ru episode featuring it. |
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| Pretty much. Any word used to sum up a personality is quite depersonalizing. I have kinda given up on the To-Love-Ru anime. I have read the manga up to the most recent chapter, so it is kinda disappointing. Though I like Lala and Mikan's voice actresses, I would much rather listen to the voice I assigned to Rito in my head than his voice actress' one. I know of GAR, but I don't have any concrete examples in mind. |
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| Actually, most (female moe) characters are in shonen series, for the exact reason that they're moe. Female moe appeals more to guys than does male moe, even by definition in some cases. (Some people define moe as "turn ons"). Avoiding referencing any deviant sexual preferences, since someone who is homosexual will obviously have different preferences. Of course, other ways people define moe are by "The intense urge to cuddle, hold, or hug a character" or "The urge to protect or help a character" In these cases, either gender is fair game for anyone of any sexual preference. An example may include Satou from NHK who is trapped by his own fear of pain, but shows obvious inward struggle (versus shinji from NGE who has a great fear of pain, but whose mind is not explored as much by the anime, thus gaining him the arguable title of "most hated anime character"). You might come to think that the heroine of the story, Misaki, had felt 'moe' towards satou because of NHK end of anime spoilers |
| Is desperation really moe? Welcome to the NHK is one of my favorite anime shows and I don't really agree that it would be an example of male moe. Misaki only wanted to help him because she felt that Satou was a terrible person. She didn't have the highest self-esteem was desperate for someone to need her. Basically, the only reason why she helped Satou was that she herself was screwed up. |
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| I realise that, however, I'll disagree with you fundamentally. Because personally, I find mentally screwed up characters very moe. (Asuka (NGE), Mai (Kanon), Misaki, Eri (SR), Mamimi... etc) |
| Ah, well. It all comes down to a matter of opinion there. I still stand my ground, but I can't force my opinion on you, can I? |
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| I don't think Sasuke from Naruto would have so many fangirls if he was wild and talkative like Uzumaki Naruto. I can't think of any better examples right now at this time of night and Sasuke isn't a very good example because he's not moe, but I'm sure this applies to guys as well. Well actually Sasuke has had a few "moe" moments. I think that's why everyone calls him emo. Or something. Sasuke is more of a Tsundere that hasn't been breached yet. I've seen silent guys in anime before that I wanted to just hug them and make things all better. Yet I can't remember them right now.:/ |
ukonkiviAug 2, 2008 12:54 AM
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| Hum Karasuma Oji from School Rumble xD ? |
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| Maybe Shizuka Doumeki from XXXHolic. |
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| Sorry for quoting some random old post, but this is something that deserves my remark. Palimpsest said: I know of GAR, but I don't have any concrete examples in mind. Kamina. WHO TEH F*K DO YOU THINK HE IS?!?! Just to avoid being a bit off topic. Just a bit. ukonkivi said: (1.)I don't think Sasuke from Naruto would have so many fangirls if he was wild and talkative like Uzumaki Naruto. I can't think of any better examples right now at this time of night and Sasuke isn't a very good example because (2.)he's not moe, but I'm sure this applies to guys as well. Well actually Sasuke has had a few "moe" moments. (3.)I think that's why everyone calls him emo. Or something. (4.)Sasuke is more of a Tsundere that hasn't been breached yet. I've seen silent guys in anime before that I wanted to just hug them and make things all better. Yet I can't remember them right now.:/ (1.) Of course. For unknown reasons girls tend to like guys that just like to be quiet. Thats not actually something bad. Only strange in my point of view. (2.) Of course! (3.) Its not because some moments, and Moe is for girls ONLY. Just like tsundere. (There is no tsundere guy, just a dense moron). BTW He IS fuking emo. (4.) Just like moe, tsundere can only be used for girls. Guys can't be moe neither tsundere. That would mean that he turned into a girl or something even more scary. If you want to use terms with same meaning for guys you could use: Cool instead of Moe. (It feels so weird thinking that a girl would say some guy is moe. If you knew the very meaning of moe, maybe you will notice that it feels somehow just plain wrong.) Asshole instead of Tsundere. (No, really, its somehow acceptable a girl being tsundere, but a guy who treats a women acting like tsundere is just an asshole, or gay.) |
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| I'm not sure I agree that a guy can't be moe or tsundere. And if moe becomes this sort of gendered thing, I'm not so sure I like it anymore. I don't like gendered terms and concepts. |
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| Labeling Sasuke emo is just a lame way for people who are sick of him to bash him without just saying he's overrated. No one ever makes an argument for it, because there is none, but that's beside the point. And I've never liked the term GAR because it's gender polarizing and silly. I only ever use it in a silly light, as it should be, to make fun of masculinity. And as for a moe guy, I can now think of one. Mytho from Princess Tutu is most DEFINITELY moe. And silent guy moe as well. |
ukonkiviSep 30, 2008 2:43 AM
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| Tsundere CAN be applied to a male, Arima Soichiro from Kare Kano is the first to come to mind. However, the label of tsundere is most often used to apply to a female. However, just as most female tsunderreko or whiny b1tches, most male tsunderreko are stuck up assholes Labeling Sasuke emo is just a lame way for people who are sick of him to bash him without just saying he's overrated. No one ever makes an argument for it, because there is none Hmm a Naruto debate? I think the label emo is somewhat misleading... people cite his goal of killing his brother, and then SHIPPUDEN SPOILER as a sign of him being emo, which isn't true. Actually, it's a sign of him being a psychotic bastard. Sasuke was given everything and was hero-worshipped. Hell, Sakura threw herself at him and he still ran away to join roachi-chan... *deep breath* anyways, to answer the question, sure there are silent guys. Do I care? Not one bit |
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| probably there are silent boys but I can remember only Near from death note |
| It's very hard for a boy to be that silent, almost emotionless perfection in anime. For some reason, anime directors want to make male characters incredibly outspoken. I'm a bisexual female, and I have several types of boys that I like, but only, really, one or two types of 2D girl. (I'm less picky with 3D girls, oddly enough. O.o) |
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| Don't care especially since this club has the word "girl" in it's title...? And yeah, they probably exist who knows, I just don't view men with those eyes... |
| okay, for some weird reason i see this thread on the verge of turning into a thread about sexism, instead of silent Moe guys. I will keep it simple a say that everyone has their preferences, the people arguing against this thread are just not used to even seeing a lot of characters like that. The silent Moe guys are usually the ones no one cares about because of their quiet personality. |
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| I have my moments of outcasted silent moe |
| I don't care about silent boy types in anime(unless he gives of a funny aura) if there are "ME NOT GAY!!" said that because mostly girls care about silent boy types(well if there are) |
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| Ryuu Sanada of Kimi Ni Todoke. Really quiet. xDD |
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