| Veil potion has been brought kupo o/ Updated shop. This is a redirection of post 644  Item List Phoenix Down x 1 (150 gil): revive one player of your choosing. Paralyze Potion x 1 (65 gil): roleblock a player of your choosing. Disguise Potion x 1 (40 gil): investigated as town. Antidotes x 1 (50 gil): removes poison. Holy Water x 1 (50 gil): removes oil. Gold Needle x 1 (50 gil): removes petrification. Turbo Ether x 1(120 gil): allows you to perform your limit break once more (if you have the exp). Megalixer x 1 (100 gil): perform your night action without being stopped. Elixer x 1 (50 gil): perform your night action without being stopped (50 % accuracy). Hi-Potion x 1 (50 gil): makes any action that is targeted on you have 75 % accuracy. X-Potion x 1 (75 gil): makes any action that is targeted on you have 50 % accuracy. Magnify Glass x 1 (35 gil): you are able to learn how much gil/exp another player has. Veil Potion x 1 (50 gil): you will hide a player's role when they die. This are the only stock available this phase kupo. I'm sorry, but there isn't any time to collect more stocks that are needed. Maybe perhaps next time kupo o/ |
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| @coromandel why would you lynch Holo if you trusted my claim? Your actions were contradictory. You said that Holo is innocent since nobody attempted to savehim D1 and then you still lynch him anyways in order to save CP. I also do not see how CP is innocent. |
DenjaX said: @coromandel why would you lynch Holo if you trusted my claim? Your actions were contradictory. You said that Holo is innocent since nobody attempted to savehim D1 and then you still lynch him anyways in order to save CP. I also do not see how CP is innocent. Because when CorruptedPurity said that he's an Odd-Night Miller I knew he's telling the truth. Now if you can't figure out what I'm trying to say, then so be it. >.> Just re-read what happened during day 2.. people weren't voting/changing their votes so I didn't have many options: Voting for you or CP, or Holocaster. I could have voted for Gwendolly instead, but people literally started voting for her in the last minute. And I dislike lynching someone without giving them the chance to defend themselves. Holocaster had been voted for the whole day, he could have claimed but decided not to do it in the end. Also, I quickly believed he was innocent based on your claim. But someone (I think aa-dono or Claire) asked me at least twice (?) why I thought he was innocent, they didn't understand how I made the connection between your claim and Holo's innocence. I started questioning my thought from earlier - even if no mafia member was on on his train, Holo could still be mafia himself. Maybe lots of townies voted for reiynii in the end, and they (=mafia) thought "hey, we don't even have to hammer reiynii, let the others appear scummy instead of us"..? So all in all, I wasn't town-reading Holocaster by the end of day 2, and I believed the other people who had votes on them were town. So I saw it as my only option to vote for Holo. |
Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: A mafia doesn't have to claim when they're in danger. They can claim in order to clean themself from suspicion, I already said it, and it has indeed happened in previous games I played. So no, you're assuming a mafia would act only when in danger, which isn't necessarily the case.I explained why I trust you - the timing wouldn't make sense for scum. You were not in danger of being lynched when you claimed, and no one else was at that time. So who were you trying to save with this claim? Therefore I think you're telling the truth. I get it - you don't trust anyone. If everyone's just paranoid and doesn't cooperate, mafia has an easy game. I think it's more likely Denja is telling the truth. I made assumptions based on claims, and that reduced my pool of suspects from ~20 to 11: To me it's obvious that the mafia is hiding here ^. Voting for one of them tomorrow means having a 45% chance of hitting scum. |
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DenjaX said: @coromandel why would you lynch Holo if you trusted my claim? Your actions were contradictory. You said that Holo is innocent since nobody attempted to savehim D1 and then you still lynch him anyways in order to save CP. I also do not see how CP is innocent. I still don't follow how Holocaster is innocent in her opinion either. Also it isnt unusual that scums claim Miller so they have abili when investigated. |
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| I don't understand why people trust CP/ A mafio could easily claim miller. That way if anyone has an investigative ability, they would be in the clear. @coromandel did you think about this when you changed your vote the other day? Or are you still willing to believe CP's claim? |
Holocaster said: I don't understand why people trust CP/ A mafio could easily claim miller. That way if anyone has an investigative ability, they would be in the clear. @coromandel did you think about this when you changed your vote the other day? Or are you still willing to believe CP's claim? Read like 4-5 posts above you |
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| I feel like people aren't even reading my posts. -__- Holocaster said: @coromandel did you think about this when you changed your vote the other day? Or are you still willing to believe CP's claim? CP is innocent. When he claimed to be Odd-Night Miller, I knew he was telling the truth - because i'm an Even-Night Miller, and it makes sense that there are two of us. |
| Whatever. |
| I'm really pissed right now. I did my best during day 2, but it was a waste of time apparently. Don't think I'll put the same amount of effort into day 3. Why bother making observations when people aren't even reading my posts? |
| @Holocaster @Lord_Sithis You've done absolutely nothing to solve the game so far. |
I'm reading your posts though...and made an observation about these claims lol and why are you just pointing us out? There are many who have been much more inactive and unhelpful i.e. Karote and Sightless and the others that just make enough posts to not get kicked and leave. And I have made my own observations during D2, or did you not read those posts? I am sorry I have been slightly inactive, but as I stated before, I have had a bad stomach virus and haven't been up to par. |
+1 Neither has Gwendolly, Lamb, grrr, thegoliath(ok he is replaced so im expecting sth this day phase). Lets see if I have any luck tonight to get something from the host. I dont seem to have luck with probability. coromandel said: I feel like people aren't even reading my posts. -__- Holocaster said: @coromandel did you think about this when you changed your vote the other day? Or are you still willing to believe CP's claim? CP is innocent. When he claimed to be Odd-Night Miller, I knew he was telling the truth - because i'm an Even-Night Miller, and it makes sense that there are two of us. Fair enough, I believe him as I slightly townread coromandel (as in, she is my most townread at the moment). Even so, I am a bit perturbed about last day phase no lynch. |
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Holocaster said: I'm reading your posts though...and made an observation about these claims lol and why are you just pointing us out? There are many who have been much more inactive and unhelpful i.e. Karote and Sightless and the others that just make enough posts to not get kicked and leave. And I have made my own observations during D2, or did you not read those posts? I am sorry I have been slightly inactive, but as I stated before, I have had a bad stomach virus and haven't been up to par. True but if anything, I am wary that you were saved by someone last day phase, sth to do with the vote count being tampered. Also, I dont really think your opinion is consistent, especially last night when you were about to be lynched. |
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| Well, sorry for being useless and inactive, hmph. |
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_Claire_ said: Holocaster said: I'm reading your posts though...and made an observation about these claims lol and why are you just pointing us out? There are many who have been much more inactive and unhelpful i.e. Karote and Sightless and the others that just make enough posts to not get kicked and leave. And I have made my own observations during D2, or did you not read those posts? I am sorry I have been slightly inactive, but as I stated before, I have had a bad stomach virus and haven't been up to par. True but if anything, I am wary that you were saved by someone last day phase, sth to do with the vote count being tampered. Also, I dont really think your opinion is consistent, especially last night when you were about to be lynched. Holo said they themselves didn't do it, so I don't believe a townie would do it if most people agreed on Holo at the last second. Unless someone has passive to save townie or something, but very well mafia could've done that. Either way, it smells fishy. Unless person himself confirms they saved Holo, we've no way of figuring it out. |
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Karote said: _Claire_ said: True but if anything, I am wary that you were saved by someone last day phase, sth to do with the vote count being tampered. Also, I dont really think your opinion is consistent, especially last night when you were about to be lynched. Holo said they themselves didn't do it, so I don't believe a townie would do it if most people agreed on Holo at the last second. Unless someone has passive to save townie or something, but very well mafia could've done that. Either way, it smells fishy. Unless person himself confirms they saved Holo, we've no way of figuring it out. Due to my passive, I said yesterday that the vote was tampered with. It probably contributes to the no lynch. |
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_Claire_ said: Karote said: Holo said they themselves didn't do it, so I don't believe a townie would do it if most people agreed on Holo at the last second. Unless someone has passive to save townie or something, but very well mafia could've done that. Either way, it smells fishy. Unless person himself confirms they saved Holo, we've no way of figuring it out. Due to my passive, I said yesterday that the vote was tampered with. It probably contributes to the no lynch. But your vote was on Gwen. Are you suggesting they used your single vote against Holo train? or they made it count for 2 or something? or they secretely moved it on another train? perhaps, it was just simply rended useless? I could believe if they made your vote count as 2 or more. When did you receive message? Did it seem they would expect Holo to be lynched at the time? I'd rather believe somebody saved Holo on purpose, even phase change implies it: shadroxx2810 said: Holocaster was supposingly lynched! As he stand on the battlefield, in grave danger, a goddess came to rescue him, resulting in.... No death occur today |
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Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: I've provided town my reads and thoughts, and questioned people. Btw, I asked you some questions and you still haven't answered.@Holocaster @Lord_Sithis You've done absolutely nothing to solve the game so far. And you haven't lynched a mafia or anything, you've done the same thing as me, giving reads and opinions. I've answered all your questions. |
Karote said: _Claire_ said: Due to my passive, I said yesterday that the vote was tampered with. It probably contributes to the no lynch. But your vote was on Gwen. Are you suggesting they used your single vote against Holo train? or they made it count for 2 or something? or they secretely moved it on another train? perhaps, it was just simply rended useless? I could believe if they made your vote count as 2 or more. When did you receive message? Did it seem they would expect Holo to be lynched at the time? I'd rather believe somebody saved Holo on purpose, even phase change implies it: shadroxx2810 said: Holocaster was supposingly lynched! As he stand on the battlefield, in grave danger, a goddess came to rescue him, resulting in.... No death occur today The message is incredibly vague. Something along: A vote has been tampered with. 2 Hours before phase change, but I didnt realize there was a message until 40 mins prior to the phase change. It didnt say who or how it is tampered. I agree based on that, it does seem like someone saves him. The message indicates "goddess" so she might be a town based on that but why would a town save holo? |
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Goddess could mean a lot of things: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Goddess Or none of these ^ idk x3 Maybe someone with more ff experience has an idea what happened yesterday. |
_Claire_ said: Karote said: But your vote was on Gwen. Are you suggesting they used your single vote against Holo train? or they made it count for 2 or something? or they secretely moved it on another train? perhaps, it was just simply rended useless? I could believe if they made your vote count as 2 or more. When did you receive message? Did it seem they would expect Holo to be lynched at the time? I'd rather believe somebody saved Holo on purpose, even phase change implies it: The message is incredibly vague. Something along: A vote has been tampered with. 2 Hours before phase change, but I didnt realize there was a message until 40 mins prior to the phase change. It didnt say who or how it is tampered. I agree based on that, it does seem like someone saves him. The message indicates "goddess" so she might be a town based on that but why would a town save holo? There are evil goddesses in Final Fantasy. I'd say it's a neutral term in the FF universe. And Holo himself said he doesn't know why he was saved, implying that it wasn't his ability/role. And you're right, it's unusual for a town player to intervene with a lynch on day 2 - why would they save Holo out of all people? If it was scum, then he's either scum himself or they're just trying to confuse us. |
coromandel said: Goddess could mean a lot of things: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Goddess Or none of these ^ idk x3 Maybe someone with more ff experience has an idea what happened yesterday. Cannot recal any Goddess who is worth to be in this game (As in, not important/as famous as the others). |
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coromandel said: _Claire_ said: The message is incredibly vague. Something along: A vote has been tampered with. 2 Hours before phase change, but I didnt realize there was a message until 40 mins prior to the phase change. It didnt say who or how it is tampered. I agree based on that, it does seem like someone saves him. The message indicates "goddess" so she might be a town based on that but why would a town save holo? There are evil goddesses in Final Fantasy. I'd say it's a neutral term in the FF universe. And Holo himself said he doesn't know why he was saved, implying that it wasn't his ability/role. And you're right, it's unusual for a town player to intervene with a lynch on day 2 - why would they save Holo out of all people? If it was scum, then he's either scum himself or they're just trying to confuse us. But I cant recall any that can be any importance.. There is Goddess Etronin Ff13 but she is just a side character, A Goddess boss in FF6 but if I am Shad I would have Kefka/Terra/Celes (which is why i didnt question Denja claim much). But idk how he will stand for 3rd party. |
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_Claire_ said: coromandel said: There are evil goddesses in Final Fantasy. I'd say it's a neutral term in the FF universe. And Holo himself said he doesn't know why he was saved, implying that it wasn't his ability/role. And you're right, it's unusual for a town player to intervene with a lynch on day 2 - why would they save Holo out of all people? If it was scum, then he's either scum himself or they're just trying to confuse us. But I cant recall any that can be any importance.. There is Goddess Etronin Ff13 but she is just a side character, A Goddess boss in FF6 but if I am Shad I would have Kefka/Terra/Celes (which is why i didnt question Denja claim much). But idk how he will stand for 3rd party. Maybe this was an ability? And it belongs to a character who's in control of a goddess? Idk.. But it's weird that Holo was saved and doesn't know why. |
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Lord_Sithis said: coromandel said: No. If you trusted Denja's claim so much that you read Holo as town because of that, why did you suddenly changed your opinion and voted for Holo? Didn't you trust Denja? You're contradicting yourself.I've answered all your questions. I've ALREADY answered this. -_- https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1555461&show=800#msg47945409 |
| Gold and exp is counting right now, it will take some time for the PM to reach you |
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| What happened to the vote song? It was a tie right? |
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| Yes it was a tie, therefore no one is getting extra |
Thanks to vanitystar for making it |
wen294 is killed! He is....? aa-dono is killed ! She is....? DenjaX is killed ! He is....? There is no hate, only joy For you are beloved by the goddess Hero of the dawn, Healer of worlds Dreams of the morrow hath the shattered soul Pride is lost Wings stripped away, the end is nigh  During the day, everyone may vote for a player or for "no lynch" to happen. Use format: Vote: Username / No lynch (please bold it) You can change your vote throughout the day: Change Vote: Username or Unvote At the end of the day, the player with the most votes dies and their character, role and alignment are revealed. Tied votes will result in "no lynch". You have 24 hours to decide the outcome of the lynch. › Time until Night 3 ‹ |
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| Wtf. 3 deaths? Are you telling me there is an SK or Arsonist or sth? Look at Denjax's role. |
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| wow lame... Just how lucky is scum gonna get this game :\ well rip me and all that, good luck guys. Now to continue with my manga. |
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| So many dead people! oO Now I have a bad feeling for doubting Denja. But looking at this ability, does that mean he got killed the night before? |
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Gwendolly said: So many dead people! oO Now I have a bad feeling for doubting Denja. But looking at this ability, does that mean he got killed the night before? I suppose so... Now he is dead and he was bluffing, we are back to square 0 again. |
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| I realised if a townie bought this: Magnify Glass x 1 (35 gil): you are able to learn how much gil/exp another player has. They could potentionally get scum who has awfully low gil but lots of exp. (Choosing somebody from Poems and FF songs) Too late though. |
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_Claire_ said: Gwendolly said: So many dead people! oO Now I have a bad feeling for doubting Denja. But looking at this ability, does that mean he got killed the night before? I suppose so... Now he is dead and he was bluffing, we are back to square 0 again. Nah, I think this will actually help. Just gotta backtrack properly now. |
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| But what bothers me more is who covered for wen? Or who WOULD actually cover him and WHY. The potion was bought, so Im assuming it was used or was it some kind of ability. But it makes me think he was scum nonetheless. |
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| D: How on earth did so many people die :< this is getting scary v.v Not only do we have mafia to worry about, but from the shop list it looks like we have a lot of scary third parties, too. Also I wonder why Denja decided to bluff about the Reichan train? None of his abilities looks like it could could do that, so I have no clue. |
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