Sword Art Online (light novel)
Smooched said: So I am automatically a hater for pointing out that the SAO light novels are of the same quality as the anime. How amusing and cute. You need work on your interpretation skills...and grammar. You look like a dude that just discovered the semicolon. Show it off to the world young one! Sure i don't mind being called young, real ages regardless i rather act young and immature then old and snobbish. That said your statement has no basis; if you did a breakdown of how they were the "same quality" you would be ripped to pieces by something you lack and that is called reason. Frankly people like you are amusing because you feel that everything must be spelled out for you, i bet you even say a show that hasn't finished yet has plot holes. Better yet you likely even post retarded points that were just explained earlier in the very same forum. Before you start running with your ignorance perhaps you should learn to walk because with that kind of reasoning you aren't going to get anywhere. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: ShiroX said: InfiniteDestiny said: Smooched said: What I can't understand is why people rave about the novels, when the anime and the novels are essentially the same thing. LOL; you people say stuff like this then expect people to take you seriously ssjokg said: Eh no not at all. From the best anime adaption(Fate zero) to SAO and from SAO to the worse adaption Tsukihime the source material was ALWAYS better be it LN,VN or manga. This, i enjoy SAO but that said its nothing compared to the novels; the character development got shot in the anime; that isn't the case in the novels; its been said many times over but you people don't care to listen, well whatever; like i said before the hate you bring to the forums is pointless, you hating it will not change its popularity; it will only bring unneeded animosity that contains not reason nor purpose; you are wasting your time watching something you hate; heck some morons even make reviews hating on the series wasting even MORE time; you hate something yet you spend soooooooo much time on it; the irony is truly amusing. it would be incredibly stupid and one-sided if only people who liked a series wrote reviews also, hating is fun not a good thing, but that's just the way it is You know you made my point all by yourself right? Its not a good thing. However i do agree with you, there are two sides to every coin after all. People shouldn't misunderstand, i don't care if you dislike or hate this series, i really really don't. You are entitled to your own opinion, but the way you express it and the reason for it is stupid. As has been pointed out, the popularity of the series makes it more hated then it would be if one took a step back and looked at it normally. Also the way the hate is described just brings unneeded conflict and makes the forums almost intolerable. If one wants to hate this series because they dislike the plot, the characters, the whatever, thats one thing but to hate a series because of its popularity and then simply use one line sarcastic insult remarks is pathetic and redundant. Also like i said before i find it completely pointless to watch something you hate, why watch something that you hold no hope for; is it truly time well spent just to make fun of something? that is seeking conflict and that is what i have a problem with. Only one semicolon used- it's a record! ./Sorry I just had to And, trust me, a lot of people, me included, continue watching something we hate even though it pisses us off. It's just fun to hate sometimes. With that being said, it's the same case with SAO. Not necessarily a bad anime at all, but the drama fans add by exaggerating is what sadly disapproves most. |
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FailAtLife said: Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn What flavor? ./Trolling on the sidelines |
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Kurimu-chan said: FailAtLife said: Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn What flavor? ./Trolling on the sidelines That's trolling? |
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Candor said: FailAtLife said: Guys, save it for tomorrow, there's a fishing episode tomorrow, it's probably gonna be a long night here.Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn I like how you arent absolutely sure about that.It will definitely be a long night. |
Candor said: Kurimu-chan said: Guys, save it for tomorrow, there's a fishing episode tomorrow, it's gonna be a long night.FailAtLife said: Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn What flavor? ./Trolling on the sidelines Go Kirito! Go! |
Kurimu-chan said: InfiniteDestiny said: ShiroX said: InfiniteDestiny said: Smooched said: What I can't understand is why people rave about the novels, when the anime and the novels are essentially the same thing. LOL; you people say stuff like this then expect people to take you seriously ssjokg said: Eh no not at all. From the best anime adaption(Fate zero) to SAO and from SAO to the worse adaption Tsukihime the source material was ALWAYS better be it LN,VN or manga. This, i enjoy SAO but that said its nothing compared to the novels; the character development got shot in the anime; that isn't the case in the novels; its been said many times over but you people don't care to listen, well whatever; like i said before the hate you bring to the forums is pointless, you hating it will not change its popularity; it will only bring unneeded animosity that contains not reason nor purpose; you are wasting your time watching something you hate; heck some morons even make reviews hating on the series wasting even MORE time; you hate something yet you spend soooooooo much time on it; the irony is truly amusing. it would be incredibly stupid and one-sided if only people who liked a series wrote reviews also, hating is fun not a good thing, but that's just the way it is You know you made my point all by yourself right? Its not a good thing. However i do agree with you, there are two sides to every coin after all. People shouldn't misunderstand, i don't care if you dislike or hate this series, i really really don't. You are entitled to your own opinion, but the way you express it and the reason for it is stupid. As has been pointed out, the popularity of the series makes it more hated then it would be if one took a step back and looked at it normally. Also the way the hate is described just brings unneeded conflict and makes the forums almost intolerable. If one wants to hate this series because they dislike the plot, the characters, the whatever, thats one thing but to hate a series because of its popularity and then simply use one line sarcastic insult remarks is pathetic and redundant. Also like i said before i find it completely pointless to watch something you hate, why watch something that you hold no hope for; is it truly time well spent just to make fun of something? that is seeking conflict and that is what i have a problem with. Only one semicolon used- it's a record! ./Sorry I just had to And, trust me, a lot of people, me included, continue watching something we hate even though it pisses us off. It's just fun to hate sometimes. With that being said, it's the same case with SAO. Not necessarily a bad anime at all, but the drama fans add by exaggerating is what sadly disapproves most. You know thats another thing that is truly ironic. I think its safe to say that hype in general puts a lot of pressure to a series, which many times destroys it due to failing to meet expectations (Guilty Crown) then answer me this, how is hype created? By people saying its good, here and there right? Now this is where you blame LN fans but in reality the fault really lies with you; instead of waiting and seeing for yourself what the series really was you allowed deluded expectations to twist your perception of what the show really is, and in all likelihood i doubt even if SAO was flawless (which it isn't) that people wouldn't hate on it; hype brings that kind of malice. Then to top it off it creates a chain reaction; hype many times creates popularity and then that proceeds to create even MORE hate with people calling it overrated, its a stupid cycle you should at least realize this. |
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Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: |
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eldon2 said: FailAtLife said: Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn Whoppers sound great right now. Can I get some of those? Join the sidelines and enjoy the show! |
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Paul said: Candor said: Kurimu-chan said: Guys, save it for tomorrow, there's a fishing episode tomorrow, it's gonna be a long night.FailAtLife said: Kurimu-chan said: I prefer potato chips../Brings Popcorn What flavor? ./Trolling on the sidelines Go Kirito! Go! It's ok, I wasn't Planning on sleeping tonight. |
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Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. And it definitely isnt the reason SAO anime is ranked so high. Space brother's first ep was better than all of SAO's ep till now. |
ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. What if I told you that not all people who watch SAO have an MAL account? Not to mention the intense hype over the series in Japan alone. |
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ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. And it definitely isnt the reason SAO anime is ranked so high. It's because it's a MMO based anime. |
ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. And it definitely isnt the reason SAO anime is ranked so high. Are you telling me that the ones who have only watched the anime can´t be considered part of the fanbase because they haven´t read those stupid novels? *shrug* |
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Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. |
Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. What if I told you that not all people who watch SAO have an MAL account? Not to mention the intense hype over the series in Japan alone. I am talkng about the MAL here.I have no idea whats going on on other site but I doubt it affects the ranking here. |
Paul said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. And it definitely isnt the reason SAO anime is ranked so high. It's because it's a MMO based anime. Agreed- the minute someone sees that it's MMO, it appeals to them and justifies ranking it 10/10 from episode 1 alone. Got to give a hand for the author if the LN, he was smart enough to realize that an MMO story would get him all the money and fame. |
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ssjokg said: I am talkng about the MAL here.I have no idea whats going on on other site but I doubt it affects the ranking here. In ANN it´s highly ranked too. So it´s easy to tell that the hype is everywhere. |
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Karura_Jiinsaru said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. And it definitely isnt the reason SAO anime is ranked so high. Are you telling me that the ones who have only watched the anime can´t be considered part of the fanbase because they haven´t read those stupid novels? *shrug* A lot of people blame the LN fanbase for SAO being so overrated so here I am talking ONLY about the LN fanbase. |
ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. What if I told you that not all people who watch SAO have an MAL account? Not to mention the intense hype over the series in Japan alone. I am talkng about the MAL here.I have no idea whats going on on other site but I doubt it affects the ranking here. I was not talking about the ranking, but the fact that someone mentioned SAO being the best anime of 2012 (: |
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Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. |
Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Tsundereppoi said: Best series of the year at the very least, since everyone's making a big deal out of it, haters, fanboys, who cares. It's BIG in all senses of the word. What else could one ask for? Less whiners, that's what! IMO, just because a series has a huge fanbase doesn't necessarily make it the Best Anime of The Year, just probably the most talked about. If SAO is the best anime of the year, I wonder what anime like Uchuu Kyoudai and Kuroko no Basket rank (: 3916 readers isnt a huge fanbase at all.Even if you add 2000 more people that probably didnt update their list with the SAO LN it isnt anywhere near a huge fanbase. What if I told you that not all people who watch SAO have an MAL account? Not to mention the intense hype over the series in Japan alone. I am talkng about the MAL here.I have no idea whats going on on other site but I doubt it affects the ranking here. I was not talking about the ranking, but the fact that someone mentioned SAO being the best anime of 2012 (: Maybe he didnt watch anything else that aired this year.I hope... Or maybe he is a 12 year old that started with SAO instead with Naruto. |
Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of it's theme. Then what about .hack//SIGN? It´s better produced than SAO and there´s no need to say the rest. |
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Karura_Jiinsaru said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of it's theme. Then what about .hack//SIGN? It´s better produced than SAO and there´s no need to say the rest. MMO's weren't nearly as popular back then as they are now. |
| Anyone who hates SAO and thinks it's overrated should just move to 4chan. It's a lot better there for SAO haters since there are SAO troll threads almost daily. Plus they have actual taste (imo of course). That way, we won't have as many circlejerk threads like this one. |
Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. |
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Karura_Jiinsaru said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of it's theme. Then what about .hack//SIGN? It´s better produced than SAO and there´s no need to say the rest. MAybe everyone is new in the anime world so SAO was right in front of them.... I have been watching anime since 2008 and while I know the .hack series I havent watch any yet. |
Kurimu-chan said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. SAO was supposedly written around the same time as the .hack series started. It became popular much later. |
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Candor said: ssjokg said: QFT... Space brother's first ep was better than all of SAO's ep till now. I know right? Just because I like SAO(both LN and anime,with LN>>anime) it doesnt mean I cant see the differences with other series. |
Uberchu said: Anyone who hates SAO and thinks it's overrated should just move to 4chan. It's a lot better there for SAO haters since there are SAO troll threads almost daily. Plus they have actual taste (imo of course). That way, we won't have as many circlejerk threads like this one. But it's fun to hate ;( Anyway, forums are where people discuss their opinions, be it good or bad- so I see nothing wrong with these threads appearing on MAL. |
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Karura_Jiinsaru said: Kurimu-chan said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. SAO was supposedly written around the same time as the .hack series started. It became popular much later. The time they were animated makes a big difference though. I never read the 'original' version of SAO but the current light novel was 'revised' and modified IIRC. |
Karura_Jiinsaru said: Kurimu-chan said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. SAO was supposedly written around the same time as the .hack series started. It became popular much later. Thanks fot correcting me then (: I'm just wondering when and how SAO gained all this attention when it was relatively unknown just a few years ago.. |
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Paul said: Karura_Jiinsaru said: Kurimu-chan said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. SAO was supposedly written around the same time as the .hack series started. It became popular much later. The time they were animated makes a big difference though. I never read the 'original' version of SAO but the current light novel was 'revised' and modified IIRC. From what I see SAO was popular even before the Anime adaption. Still wondering when the fanbase actually appeared. |
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Paul said: Karura_Jiinsaru said: Kurimu-chan said: Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. Totally agree with you there. Author of the LN was probably aware that that's where the money's at during these times. SAO was supposedly written around the same time as the .hack series started. It became popular much later. The time they were animated makes a big difference though. I never read the 'original' version of SAO but the current light novel was 'revised' and modified IIRC. As far as I know from people that read the original,it's not that different.According to what someone said(i think it was in UTW's site) about Lizbet's original story it sounded to me that SAO truly was a harem before the revision. |
Karura_Jiinsaru said: Japanese Editorials and Baka-Tsuki, maybe? That'd be my guess as well. I'm not really into light novels. |
Karura_Jiinsaru said: Japanese Editorials and Baka-Tsuki, maybe? I'm also referring to the sales in Japan- when did SAO suddenly become so widespread? I never noticed. You can't enter one book store in Japan without being swarmed with SAO novels and related matchandise/posters. Same goes for the weekly sales ranking.. |
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Kurimu-chan said: Karura_Jiinsaru said: Japanese Editorials and Baka-Tsuki, maybe? I'm also referring to the sales in Japan- when did SAO suddenly become so widespread? I never noticed. You can't enter one book store in Japan without being swarmed with SAO novels and related matchandise/posters. Same goes for the weekly sales ranking.. well SAO was first posted in the author's site in 2002.Then in 2009 it was published as a LN. |
| Acording ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Karura_Jiinsaru said: Japanese Editorials and Baka-Tsuki, maybe? I'm also referring to the sales in Japan- when did SAO suddenly become so widespread? I never noticed. You can't enter one book store in Japan without being swarmed with SAO novels and related matchandise/posters. Same goes for the weekly sales ranking.. well SAO was first posted in the author's site in 2002.Then in 2009 it was published as a LN. That surely gives the author (it was also prized by the editorial) plenty of time to attain more popularity than what could have gained from his site. |
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ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: Karura_Jiinsaru said: Japanese Editorials and Baka-Tsuki, maybe? I'm also referring to the sales in Japan- when did SAO suddenly become so widespread? I never noticed. You can't enter one book store in Japan without being swarmed with SAO novels and related matchandise/posters. Same goes for the weekly sales ranking.. well SAO was first posted in the author's site in 2002.Then in 2009 it was published as a LN. Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying. Though it seems to me like the novel only gained widespread attention during late 2011 - 2012. Probably due to the Anime announcement and us people who have not read the original novels.. |
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Uberchu said: Anyone who hates SAO and thinks it's overrated should just move to 4chan. It's a lot better there for SAO haters since there are SAO troll threads almost daily. Plus they have actual taste (imo of course). That way, we won't have as many circlejerk threads like this one. >/a/ >good taste IMO, Everything /a/ likes is shit and everything /a/ hates is good, that's it. But I agree with you, these people should just move to 4chan .-. |
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