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Aug 30, 4:52 AM
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agree 100 per cent. for example new bleach the first 1 back was good rewatch and its very str8 forward and very 1 sided. so much emotion interesting match ups and story is good and doesn't have plot holes
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Ki11grave said:
@uwayn In the first arc, they established how destructive Sukuna is and how OP Gojo is, so that villains would come up with the plan to seal him. In Junpei arc, the Mahito plotline was started. In Kyoto arc, Todo was introduced and Mahito stole 6 Sukuna fingers. In Bridge arc, Choso was introduced. In zero movie, Geto died, and in flashback, there was Toji. Everything I just mentioned had a conclusion in Shibuya. And that’s only surface-level stuff: I’m not talking about how Junpei served as an example for Fake Geto’s plan and how Megumi’s sister got involved in it.

Only 2 good guys died in Shibuya. In Shinjuku, there were only 3. You see, one of the best things about Jujutsu Kaisen as a whole is that it supports the doom and gloom feeling without falling into the edginess territory. Following the story, you think that any character can die at any minute, but not a lot of them actually do that. I don’t see how this can be bad.

😂💀Lol, none of that ‘setup’ matters if the payoff is just chaotic action with zero narrative weight. Shibuya doesn’t resolve anything meaningfully—it’s a slaughterhouse spectacle that treats characters as expendable props. Doom-and-gloom doesn’t excuse a story hollowed out by meaningless deaths and overstuffed fight scenes.

Spectacle without substance is nowhere near the « best action arc of all time ». Its lazy writing ironically makes it one of the worst popular battle shonen arcs narratively. Stop glazing garbage. 🤦‍♂️
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Ki11grave said:
@uwayn In the first arc, they established how destructive Sukuna is and how OP Gojo is, so that villains would come up with the plan to seal him. In Junpei arc, the Mahito plotline was started. In Kyoto arc, Todo was introduced and Mahito stole 6 Sukuna fingers. In Bridge arc, Choso was introduced. In zero movie, Geto died, and in flashback, there was Toji. Everything I just mentioned had a conclusion in Shibuya. And that’s only surface-level stuff: I’m not talking about how Junpei served as an example for Fake Geto’s plan and how Megumi’s sister got involved in it.

Only 2 good guys died in Shibuya. In Shinjuku, there were only 3. You see, one of the best things about Jujutsu Kaisen as a whole is that it supports the doom and gloom feeling without falling into the edginess territory. Following the story, you think that any character can die at any minute, but not a lot of them actually do that. I don’t see how this can be bad.

😂💀Lol, none of that ‘setup’ matters if the payoff is just chaotic action with zero narrative weight. Shibuya doesn’t resolve anything meaningfully—it’s a slaughterhouse spectacle that treats characters as expendable props. Doom-and-gloom doesn’t excuse a story hollowed out by meaningless deaths and overstuffed fight scenes.

Spectacle without substance is nowhere near the « best action arc of all time ». Its lazy writing ironically makes it one of the worst popular battle shonen arcs narratively. Stop glazing garbage. 🤦‍♂️
@uwayn Are you rage baiting me? You gave season 2 a 9. If you’re not, then you’re not making sense to me. I gave you my reasonings about pay-offs and deaths, but you ignored them and repeated the same thing. And what do you mean “zero narrative weight” and “without substance”? Maybe it’s subjective and you just didn’t care about the story, but for me Shibuya Incident was like Infinity War. It has a lot of spectacle, yes, but can you say it is unsubstancial?
Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.".
Aug 30, 1:50 PM

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@DarkyBoy_ I guess you just don’t like action anime. If I am to sum up all my points, in Shibuya heroes have to go through a lot of actually ground-breaking stuff, unlike in many other similar arcs, like in Re:Zero S3, for example.
Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.".
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Ki11grave said:
@uwayn Are you rage baiting me? You gave season 2 a 9. If you’re not, then you’re not making sense to me. I gave you my reasonings about pay-offs and deaths, but you ignored them and repeated the same thing. And what do you mean “zero narrative weight” and “without substance”? Maybe it’s subjective and you just didn’t care about the story, but for me Shibuya Incident was like Infinity War. It has a lot of spectacle, yes, but can you say it is unsubstancial?

My MAL ratings are for fun. I gave it a 9 because it was an amazing audiovisual experience, not for storytelling. It’s probably a 4/10 if you evaluate the story objectively in writing terms. The story is a narrative mess and thematically hollow. Literally anyone could make better writing decisions than gege. They were so bad near the end that it almost felt like it was done on purpose just to piss people off. If you really think that thing was good then you just are clueless about what makes a good story. I dont think i overlooked your points, i think *you* overlooked our arguments and are unable to defend jjk’s horrible writing (naturally so). For pure action and hype (spectacle) yes its amazing, but meaningful story ? No need to lie, straight booty cheeks. You know you can admit that lol even jjk fans admit it. That does not mean you dont have the right to like it. I like jjk, just not for its plot/story.
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Not even close, some good action arcs are, raid on onigashima (one piece), entertainment district arc (demon slayer), sung jin woo vs beru (solo leveling)
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Nah fam those don't come close to shibuya arc
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Ki11grave said:
@DarkyBoy_ I guess you just don’t like action anime. If I am to sum up all my points, in Shibuya heroes have to go through a lot of actually ground-breaking stuff, unlike in many other similar arcs, like in Re:Zero S3, for example.

You're right that this isn't really my kind of show. But even when something doesn't align with my preferences, I still try to find something. Be it a thread, a concept, a moment anything that makes the experience feel worthwhile with jujutsu kaisen though I never really found that.

Season 1 actually introduced variables, elements you could build on, develop, even let flourish into something more meaningful. One example off the top of my head would be the Zen in clan. There was so much potential there not just in terms of power dynamics, but in exploring said legacy, bloodline politics, and how sorcerers navigate tradition vs individuality. These were avenues the story could've meaningfully explored. (even post s2. In the manga)

I understand that an arc like Shibuya was always going to happen escalation is inevitable in this kind of story. But it's not about avoiding Shibuya. It's about how we got there and what was prioritized along the way. (not saying season 1 was way better though it is a downgrade to an already pretty meh first season)

Season 2, to me, sidelined the things that gave the world texture and identity. It traded a rather slower burning narrative development for pure spectacle and hype. And while that might work for many, I just felt detached.

And since you brought it up it's similar to how I felt about the latest season of Re:Zero. Not just because of the action, but because of the tonal shift. It moved away from what Re:Zero fundamentally is to me.

But since this isn’t a Re:Zero thread, I'll leave it at that

This is why I can't call it the best action arc ever
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demon slayer alone has like 3 arcs which are better than Shibuya arc
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