That NTR tho SHEEEESH!

thunderkitten13 said:

I don’t even know anything about bleach except Clorox. Let’s see how many more useless messages I’ll receive from whiny children…

Kaasfondue said:
People who don't think it's NTR are completely delusional. It's the MC's love interest getting railed by the boss. They even make him witness it on the job and he continues loving her despite it, resulting in being cucked again when he goes to her house to confess but then sees they were banging even there. It was all to make you feel for the MC and be happy when he gets to leave his life of cuckoldry behind. 

The author clearly loves hentai and it's what inspired him to write a MC like this. People see the high production value and think it means the anime can't actually be this degenerate.

csmfan069 said:
cant fool me kid, you're a bleach fangay who used to shit on csm when both were airing  at same time, now looks like you've moved on to aot. what an insecure brat lol. funny you say you dont know bleach when you have given it a 10 ( now dont change the score lol). now go watch your fav show which was cancelled by shonen jump for poor sales and  ditched by studio pierrot for boruto all these years

Kaasfondue said:
People who don't think it's NTR are completely delusional. It's the MC's love interest getting railed by the boss. They even make him witness it on the job and he continues loving her despite it, resulting in being cucked again when he goes to her house to confess but then sees they were banging even there. It was all to make you feel for the MC and be happy when he gets to leave his life of cuckoldry behind. 

The author clearly loves hentai and it's what inspired him to write a MC like this. People see the high production value and think it means the anime can't actually be this degenerate.

thunderkitten13 said:

NTR is not having your crush stolen from you. It’s pretty black and white, and all that other nonsense you spouted has nothing to do with what it means to Akira and the overall theme. It’s obvious Akira going to confess his feelings was because he felt he couldn’t for the longest time, either due to fear or exhaustion from overworking. Now that he has confessed, he’s free of all the baggage from his past life.

Kaasfondue said:

That is exactly what NTR is. If the author didn't want the NTR part, he could've just not included the MC's love interest being fucked by the boss, and instead have the MC confess to her without realizing she's a zombie or see her get eaten by zombies during or after confessing. Again, completely delusional. It couldn't be more straightforward, a kind vulnerable girl being forced upon by the boss (a married man, SO disgusting!) making the MC even more powerless and pathetic with no control over his life.

Your post is nonsense just like everything else you've written in this thread :)

thunderkitten13 said:

It’s not NTR lol, netorare has a very specific definition. You’re just being ignorant. How can it be cheating if they were never together? My God, dumb people so determined to remain dumb. And Akira actually goes and confronts his feelings instead of running away…he’s actually being the opposite of powerless and a coward!

Kaasfondue said:

You must be a high effort troll or genuinely be oblivious. NTR does not have have a strict definition, it's just the feeling of being cucked in general. It doesn't have to be a couple in an official relationship.

Again the author could've not included it an tell the same story.

thunderkitten13 said:

I’m confused why you are so adamant about it being NTR. And again…how can you have a feeling of cheating IF THEY WERE NEVER TOGETHER? That is a schizo mentality if someone is feeling anguish over someone else having sex that they aren’t even with. You seem really consumed by the author and his fetishes so I’ll just end this here. If you really want it to be NTR to satisfy you since maybe you really like NTR, then whatever lol. I’m tired of trying to reason with insane logic.

Kaasfondue said:

Feeling of being cucked because... the story points out how he views her as the love of his life. It obviously hurt him when he saw them going at in the office. And feeling bad after seeing your crush with someone else is hardly schizo mentality, that's perfectly normal. It's maybe even worse when it's not clear how much say your crush had in the matter (another NTR staple, blackmail and rape etc.)

Are you okay? I'm just pointing out how everyone in this thread that says it's not NTR is wrong. And you're the one who's trying the hardest to argue it isn't for some reason. It's fine if you really enjoyed the borderline hentai subplot.

thunderkitten13 said:

Please look up the definition of NTR.

No, everyone is not wrong.

You are wrong.

If you’re too stupid to realize that, then that’s your own fault.

And you are completely missing why his unrequited feelings are even a part of the beginning, which means you probably enjoy anime on a surface/tourist level because you are probably too shallow of a thinker to understand why writer’s place characters in certain situations, and how those situations build characters through conflict. I’m not gonna explain it to you because you’re probably 12. Stay in school and pay attention in your literature class!

Macky0613 said:
How is it ntr, he's not in a relationship with the girl or anything.

Kaasfondue said:

You should look it up, considering you were wrong before about it having a strict definition.

How can anyone miss the MC screaming he feels freed and is going to do everything he always wanted to? This is why I believe you're trolling, so I'm out before I embarass myself even further.

thunderkitten13 said:

Here you go.

Congratulations, you look like a fool.

Kaasfondue said:

There's no way you pointed to Wikipedia as a reliable source of information... 

Congratulations, you outed yourself to be the coom-brain you hate.

thunderkitten13 said:
Coom-brains so focused on the “NTR” instead of the symbolism of what it represents. These people are the same people that probably think Chainsaw Man or Attack in Titan are super “deep” and “philosophical”.

STSayeb said:
how ff are you bringing aot and chainsaw man here ?

STSayeb said:
how ff are you bringing aot and chainsaw man here ?

thunderkitten13 said:

I was making a point. I don’t know how I could’ve been any more clear.

STSayeb said:
like you had to make a point and out of all the point you could have made , you just straight decided to get two of the most controversial popular anime in this unrelated/irrevelant thread just so you could bash them ! Seijng your comments ; all you did was just talking about an unrelated anime in a completely different topic whilst your comparison doesn't even make sense !

Gazz said:
Can you spoiler me what is that NTR theyre talking for? I'm so pathetic to NTR after watching Otome Dori. 

Kpoppa said:
Since a retarded zoomer is keep spreading misinforamation about the deinition of NTR by posting some links from  questionable sites II thought we should have a true definition of NTR from a reliable source
https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2018/01/netorare.html

"Although the term netorare can be quickly translated as "cuckolding," its definition is much more broad than that. That's because, in English, "cuckolding" only refers to a man's wife cheating on him with another guy. The cheated man labelled "cuckold."
In Japanese, netorare refers the act of someone "being taken (...to someone else's bed)." The genre can include a man's wife cheating on him, a woman's husband cheating on her. It can be their girlfriend, boyfriend. They don't even need to be actually dating: it could be somebody's childhood friend whom they never mustered the courage to ask out."

In short, the scene we saw here is actually NTR and those who deny it don't really know what NTR means.

STSayeb said:
like you had to make a point and out of all the point you could have made , you just straight decided to get two of the most controversial popular anime in this unrelated/irrevelant thread just so you could bash them ! Seijng your comments ; all you did was just talking about an unrelated anime in a completely different topic whilst your comparison doesn't even make sense !

Kaasfondue said:
@thunderkitten13

Thanks for another screenshot. But hey, at least here they add a bit more context. So if you actually read the page, they translate ''netorare'' to ''to be taken off'' and say it can be loosely translated to ''cuckolding'' as well, which should make it obvious it doesn't have a strict definition. They also explain the genre's emphasis of feeling cheated on. A protagonist's love interest being taken instills the same feelings, hence it being a form of NTR. It does not have to be an official relationship or marriage for it to be NTR.

Kpoppa said:

Thanks for provimg you are an idiot and I was right.

thunderkitten13 said:

I don’t know how to make it any more clear for you, you might have a learning disability that needs to be checked out by a doctor.


You can’t be cheated on if you aren’t with someone else.

Akira wasn’t feeling pain because he was being cheated on.

He felt pain because of the regret he held not being honest with his own heart for all the years he knew Ohtori-San. That’s why the beginning is so powerful: he decided to actually go against his own anxiety and fear to confront those feelings head own. We are witnessing a man breaking the chains of regret and pursuing all his heart’s desires. I doubt you’d understand that without someone spoon feeding you it like I am. The whole purpose of Akira’s unrequited feelings being presented to us is because that will leave the strongest impression of what motivates Akira moving forward.

thunderkitten13 said:

Here you go, dummy. Learn to read the full page, you might learn something!

Kaasfondue said:

It's not the exact same feeling as cheating, however, the term NTR fits, as NTR does not even mean ''cheating'' in the first place but your love interest getting stolen. It's a similar feeling to cheating.

The idea that he felt no pain from seeing the love of his life being forced upon by the boss is laughable. They literally show him walking like a zombie afterwards. Why do you talk as if the NTR part is irrelevant? It's obviously added in to make you feel even worse for the MC. 

And please, stop writing down the premise in 10 different ways, everyone gets it you look absolutely ridiculous going on about how it could be hard to understand.

Kaasfondue said:

Here you go dummy, from the same site you used, read the last sentence :)



Wait, there's no way someone else referred you to this site and quoted what I just screenshotted but you chose to ignore it and went over to the netori vs netorare part as a last effort to make it seem like you had a point... 

So you're either actually trolling or super insecure...

thunderkitten13 said:

“Two of the most controversially popular”
Yes, that’s precisely why I brought them up. Because they are popular because it appeals to the most basic tropes that people can appreciate, but overall their stories are only surface level philosophically and lack any true meaning worthy of a detailed dissection. I don’t know why you are so upset, lol. My whole point was (and still is, judging from how many people are so driven to declare the anime is NTR despite not knowing the discrepancy between NTR and netori) that Akira actually shows greater depth of growth than most of the characters in both series, and we get a better context for his struggling than we do with either stories as well. There’s a reason this series is so highly rated despite being a vastly smaller series.

UnfunnyKing said:

Bro don’t even start with this feminist, it’s impossible to win an argument against an idiot 😂

STSayeb said:
why talking about this series now suddenly and character development ? Tired of dissing aot and cm ? Keep going on 👍

STSayeb said:
how tf are you bringing aot and chainsaw man here ?

DGemu said:

The guy makes strawmans all the time. Just ignore his dumbass. You should see the bad takes he posts on 9anime. Same username and all lmfao...

thunderkitten13 said:

NTR means Netorare. This has been explained like 5 times by now with evidence. You are just wrong.

God, are you like really sensitive with anything NTR and just refuse to digest what you are enjoying properly because you’re so affixed on it? Akira was upset over his unrequited love. He was upset he never professed to her and possibly missed out on marriage/children. He even says that he doesn’t care if she is with someone else; although, at this point he is deciding to be honest with his feelings not to actually be with her but to finally live for himself completely. If you actually felt bad watching the unrequited love you completely ignore the type of development Akira went through with the first episode.

thunderkitten13 said:

Netorare is not Netori. That website is just wrong…that’s why we have different words; because there lies different meanings! Lol you are so silly.

insistence on focusing on the supposed “NTR” instead of why Akira bothered going to go confess in the first place: to be bold and free. The poster was obsessed with the vulgarity of the situation instead of how it was driving Akira”s will towards true liberty and deliverance.

has nothing to do with what it means to Akira and the overall theme. It’s obvious Akira going to confess his feelings was because he felt he couldn’t for the longest time, either due to fear or exhaustion from overworking. Now that he has confessed, he’s free of all the baggage from his past life.

Akira actually goes and confronts his feelings instead of running away…he’s actually being the opposite of powerless and a coward!

And you are completely missing why his unrequited feelings are even a part of the beginning, which means you probably enjoy anime on a surface/tourist level because you are probably too shallow of a thinker to understand why writer’s place characters in certain situations, and how those situations build characters through conflict.

Akira wasn’t feeling pain because he was being cheated on. He felt pain because of the regret he held not being honest with his own heart for all the years he knew Ohtori-San. That’s why the beginning is so powerful: he decided to actually go against his own anxiety and fear to confront those feelings head own. We are witnessing a man breaking the chains of regret and pursuing all his heart’s desires. I doubt you’d understand that without someone spoon feeding you it like I am. The whole purpose of Akira’s unrequited feelings being presented to us is because that will leave the strongest impression of what motivates Akira moving forward.

Akira was upset over his unrequited love. He was upset he never professed to her and possibly missed out on marriage/children. He even says that he doesn’t care if she is with someone else; although, at this point he is deciding to be honest with his feelings not to actually be with her but to finally live for himself completely. If you actually felt bad watching the unrequited love you completely ignore the type of development Akira went through with the first episode.

Kaasfondue said:



No shit NTR means netorare? How was that ever a point of contention. You're the one who refuses to acknowledge the fact that NTR isn't just a genre that focuses on cheating but that it's about the feeling of your love interest getting taken in general. So calling this NTR fits, and for some reason you're mad about it.

Oh, so you just ignore the anime explicitly showing the MC's pain when he sees twice how she was being used by the boss and make shit up. 


Netori is not even relevant to this conversation. You're the one not understanding the meaning of netorare, the focus on the feeling of your love interest being taken.

Bonus section: thunderkitten13's obsession with ignoring NTR

DGemu said:

The guy makes strawmans all the time. Just ignore his dumbass. You should see the bad takes he posts on 9anime. Same username and all lmfao...

thunderkitten13 said:

I’m done talking to you trying to explain it because you’re obviously too differentiate meanings between words. Just ask your English teacher, we’ve been going in circles at this point due to your own naivety.

Kaasfondue said:

Hahahaha, you're literally being hypocritical about whether the site provides reliable information because you can't admit you're wrong

People who are based: YOOO they hit this mfker with the NTR, that's crazy ROFLMAO! They really went there to show how shitty his life is!

thunderkitten13: NOOOOOOO you don't get it!!! It was a profound exploration of freedom!!! Because he couldn't confess but then he could!!!

the anime: silly comedy where a dude who's been feeling like a zombie feels alive again after a zombie apocalypse 

thunderkitten13 said:

I showed you like three screen shots of different sites that proved you wrong. You need help, your brain lacks the ability to acknowledge reality.

Kaasfondue said:

Only one, Wikipedia, gave you the definition you wanted. It also happens to be the least reliable one and provided no context. Are you genuinely this insecure or are you trolling? Maybe you should look up some NTR hentai because you might fit the target audience and find out that characters do not have to be in a relationship for it to be NTR as well.

thunderkitten13 said:

I already went over this LOL like there was never any relationship IN ANY CAPACITY, how can it be NTR if the relationship is NONEXISTENT. That’s the point of the unrequited love in the first point: to show that Akira’s job takes so much of his energy and time he does not have the courage nor has the time to confess. The confession was so important because it was his FIRST to-do on his bucket list. Are you even watching the anime or just coming back to this thread to argue about NTR? Go watch Otome Dori and feel better lmao.