Why Episode 1(prologue) was so underwhelming for me- can I expect more for next ones?

JamesNuts said:
bro really judged a show with 1 EP. Omegalul

Chris7o said:
If you're looking for that kind of realism then this just isnt for you, but I agree with your points about the dialogue. Most anime are pretty bad in that regard but it was pretty distracting how exposition heavy it was, especially that last scene of Ai and the stalker felt very heavy handed

Impctz said:
very slight spoilers to the manga

i have to completly disagree: 1 the doctors backstory and why he loves idols is explaint in the first episode and also covert a little bit more later on in the story
I also think you have no idea how actual showbizz works because even tho i cant say a lot about the movie production (wich in the part of the anime we saw so far was mostly small indi productions) i am in a bizz covert later in the story and have to say its pretty much realistic (atleast for that part) compared to my experience even tho slightly exaggarated.
the thing with idols is exactly what the story tells you about pretty lies just because a few girls are to getter in a small group and spend a lot of time because of work dose t make them automaticly friends or dosent make it so they get good along thogether in reality sure some are gonna like each other or get along decently but theres also always gonna be hatred and envy between group members.
Now about the manager sure its not usual for a manager to drive an idol around and co but it is pretty realistic. first if she wants to keep her romance secret its probaly not gonna be very hard for her. Also if you are the manager and one of your idols gets pregnant wich could destroy your whole small company then you bet you driver her around personaly as to not let any of your employs find out because s we saw with his wife it is tempting to just sell that Information for a lot of money.
The scenen where ai gets stabed is in my opinion has a decent length and the conversation with the guy is just a bizzare reaction from her but thats the whole thing getting stabbed is a pretty bizzare senario.

nushrathumaira said:
I do see somehow my pointing out a list of criticism would make anyone think I am asking for realism in every part. I wasn’t though, specially because I knew it has supernatural theme, but when they started portraying idol circumstances, it brought more reality than I expected.

nushrathumaira said:
Frankly speaking, to understand the core message we probably need to see the whole thing through.

nushrathumaira said:
As for bait posts, I didn’t have much idea. I read posts more in manga forums than anime. I post when I want to discuss with others, the reason why I joined MAL after not having an account for so long. I don’t see the fun in bait posts either, maybe some do

NECOdes said:


Well yea, every single point you made about idol industry can have exceptions. You watched anime for years, you should also know that anime tends to take a problem and exaggerate or understate in portraying it.



Then I guess judging it just from the first episode is a bit soon? They'll get into idol/acting stuff more later on.

But, it's a revenge story, they needed to make it as convenient as possible to set Aqua ready for the main goal.
You were already not happy about it being dialogue heavy about idol realities, and wanted to cut it short. Not many people care/know and want to know about idol industry and are here for the revenge part. They hardly sing in this series, it should be obvious that it's not even made for the avid idol fans (a lot of them hate to talk about the dark part of the industry they're enthusiastic about). It should be just the right amount, for idol fans to sympathize a bit and for the revenge story fans to not get bored (tho I still got bored after finishing Akane's arc).



It's ok, I just have paranoia, I got baited a lot in the past.

nushrathumaira said:
I overthought this first episode lot more than I ought to, because I have been waiting for quite a while. Exaggerations are what makes Anime special after all, I will stop trying to nitpick idol industry realism and just enjoy. But I can still judge a first episode though, i dont rate any first episode however but I can judge otherwise why did I even watch it in the first place, to not think and forgetting about it promptly is not my thing. Judging can be done in positive and negative sense. In this case, I was negative but going forward I am hoping to become more positive. As I said in my original post and other replies, I am invested in the mystery and revenge part. As a first episode, it didn’t meet my expectations, underwhelm ME, not others of course. In the next 12 episodes, it may become my favorite too.

nushrathumaira said:
I think you slightly misunderstood what I said. I was saying where is the manager in the first place, we only see the President. So we don’t see any manager let alone driving her or monitoring her activities, that is my question. I guess the President just kept his wife as manager who was slacking. Let’s leave it at that then.
Idol members are not necessarily friends or enemies, yes, either way they would ask or poke around more. Maybe the President shut them up somehow, and they turned blind eye. Let’s accept that too.
I wasn’t questioning doctors love for Ai, his sole focus on Ai and idols in general to the point that before and after death, that’s all he cares about. That happens to people I guess who pretty much have given up on rest of things and focus on the only thing they love.
The last part with Ai can maybe chalked up to Ai having a different kind of mindset in general, she is a bit weird as commented by doctor/aqua.

NECOdes said:


You right, we can only judge the first episode right now.
Hope it turns out to your liking in future episodes (this phrase was Ai generated, pls don't mind it if it's not a correct English sentence ).

NECOdes said:


You right, we can only judge the first episode right now.
Hope it turns out to your liking in future episodes (this phrase was Ai generated, pls don't mind it if it's not a correct English sentence ).

nushrathumaira said:
About the time the manga was released in English, I learned about the anime coming soon. I managed to not get spoiler much, except the reincarnation which pretty much the synopsis revealed already. I went in blind about the rest of story, including the fact that this was a prologue. That being said, I wasn’t expecting to feel this much underwhelmed about the whole episode and worried what am I not seeing that rest of the fans see ( questioning if the fandom comes largely from kaguya sama)

Here are the points that I am critical about:

1. I do not often question realistic portrayal in anime( watching anime for 20 years will do that), but an idol, won’t have a personal manager is not possible. No matter how small the agency, President won’t drive the idol, organize meetings, handle backstage issues etc. Idols can’t hide their personal relationships from managers, not for long. Ai’s partner flying under radar seems too convenient. Where are the paparazzi in this whole situation. She disappeared to recuperate and no one started sniffing?
   
2. Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 
   
3. Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry, could have been cut short or demonstrated rather than using in monologues by Aqua. Was it supposed to be eye opening for viewers? Everyone knows how idol industry, heck most of entertainment industry works? Who thinks that entertainers are telling truth through their performance? It’s a comforting lie for everyone.
   
4. How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance. And how everyone supposedly got mesmerized when she suddenly started singing. Seriously? Seemed like any other idol performance.
   
5. Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together. None of the band members questioned the long absence? 
   
6. What’s the past story of doctor? He seemed awfully invested in idols in general, even before reincarnation and beyond just loving his oshi. Seemed to go on and on about how unfair idol industry is.
   

Last but not the least, I will say I was not expecting


I rarely drop anime, and this has potential I believe. At least I am hoping for mystery or some twists to hook me in and keep me there. After waiting this long for this first episode, I don’t know what to do with my disappointment.

daiotaku said:

Bro what are you talking about with #1?  For a SMALL idol group they barely make any money at all.  Watch The Anime Man's interview with someone who was an idol:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRBV41izmUI - she barely got paid anything and and all her management was from the company boss, who she hated. There is no way they would be able to afford individual managers for each of them.  Not all idol groups in Japan make a ton of money, they certainly can't afford individual managers for each girl in the group.

>  Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow.

Bro it's a fantasy element. Also if a baby started talking to you all smart you would just think "huh, what a smart baby," and probably just go with it.  You wouldn't think "Is this baby reincarnated????" lol. 

>  Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry,

Whatever, a ton of Anime is like that. Look at Sono Bisque Doll, tons of dialog an exposition about how to make cosplay. Also obviously not "everyone" knows all about this stuff. 

>  How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance.

Whatever it's just a day job for them.  Do you think the people working at McDonald's don't make fun of the customers behind their back. 

>  Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together.

Lol, that's literally the lie they're selling bro.  It's a job, they are co-workers.  Of course they pretend to be the best of friends while doing promotional material. 

- Also, as far as the spoiler: 

nushrathumaira said:
don’t know why but found your AI generated joke quite hilarious. How would llm generate bait or troll comments, I want to try out and see how they are.

nushrathumaira said:
About the time the manga was released in English, I learned about the anime coming soon. I managed to not get spoiler much, except the reincarnation which pretty much the synopsis revealed already. I went in blind about the rest of story, including the fact that this was a prologue. That being said, I wasn’t expecting to feel this much underwhelmed about the whole episode and worried what am I not seeing that rest of the fans see ( questioning if the fandom comes largely from kaguya sama)

Here are the points that I am critical about:

1. I do not often question realistic portrayal in anime( watching anime for 20 years will do that), but an idol, won’t have a personal manager is not possible. No matter how small the agency, President won’t drive the idol, organize meetings, handle backstage issues etc. Idols can’t hide their personal relationships from managers, not for long. Ai’s partner flying under radar seems too convenient. Where are the paparazzi in this whole situation. She disappeared to recuperate and no one started sniffing?
   
2. Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 
   
3. Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry, could have been cut short or demonstrated rather than using in monologues by Aqua. Was it supposed to be eye opening for viewers? Everyone knows how idol industry, heck most of entertainment industry works? Who thinks that entertainers are telling truth through their performance? It’s a comforting lie for everyone.
   
4. How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance. And how everyone supposedly got mesmerized when she suddenly started singing. Seriously? Seemed like any other idol performance.
   
5. Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together. None of the band members questioned the long absence? 
   
6. What’s the past story of doctor? He seemed awfully invested in idols in general, even before reincarnation and beyond just loving his oshi. Seemed to go on and on about how unfair idol industry is.
   

Last but not the least, I will say I was not expecting

I rarely drop anime, and this has potential I believe. At least I am hoping for mystery or some twists to hook me in and keep me there. After waiting this long for this first episode, I don’t know what to do with my disappointment.

nushrathumaira said:
About the time the manga was released in English, I learned about the anime coming soon. I managed to not get spoiler much, except the reincarnation which pretty much the synopsis revealed already. I went in blind about the rest of story, including the fact that this was a prologue. That being said, I wasn’t expecting to feel this much underwhelmed about the whole episode and worried what am I not seeing that rest of the fans see ( questioning if the fandom comes largely from kaguya sama)

Here are the points that I am critical about:

1. I do not often question realistic portrayal in anime( watching anime for 20 years will do that), but an idol, won’t have a personal manager is not possible. No matter how small the agency, President won’t drive the idol, organize meetings, handle backstage issues etc. Idols can’t hide their personal relationships from managers, not for long. Ai’s partner flying under radar seems too convenient. Where are the paparazzi in this whole situation. She disappeared to recuperate and no one started sniffing?
   
2. Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 
   
3. Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry, could have been cut short or demonstrated rather than using in monologues by Aqua. Was it supposed to be eye opening for viewers? Everyone knows how idol industry, heck most of entertainment industry works? Who thinks that entertainers are telling truth through their performance? It’s a comforting lie for everyone.
   
4. How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance. And how everyone supposedly got mesmerized when she suddenly started singing. Seriously? Seemed like any other idol performance.
   
5. Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together. None of the band members questioned the long absence? 
   
6. What’s the past story of doctor? He seemed awfully invested in idols in general, even before reincarnation and beyond just loving his oshi. Seemed to go on and on about how unfair idol industry is.
   

Last but not the least, I will say I was not expecting

I rarely drop anime, and this has potential I believe. At least I am hoping for mystery or some twists to hook me in and keep me there. After waiting this long for this first episode, I don’t know what to do with my disappointment.

nushrathumaira said:
About the time the manga was released in English, I learned about the anime coming soon. I managed to not get spoiler much, except the reincarnation which pretty much the synopsis revealed already. I went in blind about the rest of story, including the fact that this was a prologue. That being said, I wasn’t expecting to feel this much underwhelmed about the whole episode and worried what am I not seeing that rest of the fans see ( questioning if the fandom comes largely from kaguya sama)

Here are the points that I am critical about:

1. I do not often question realistic portrayal in anime( watching anime for 20 years will do that), but an idol, won’t have a personal manager is not possible. No matter how small the agency, President won’t drive the idol, organize meetings, handle backstage issues etc. Idols can’t hide their personal relationships from managers, not for long. Ai’s partner flying under radar seems too convenient. Where are the paparazzi in this whole situation. She disappeared to recuperate and no one started sniffing?
   
2. Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 
   
3. Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry, could have been cut short or demonstrated rather than using in monologues by Aqua. Was it supposed to be eye opening for viewers? Everyone knows how idol industry, heck most of entertainment industry works? Who thinks that entertainers are telling truth through their performance? It’s a comforting lie for everyone.
   
4. How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance. And how everyone supposedly got mesmerized when she suddenly started singing. Seriously? Seemed like any other idol performance.
   
5. Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together. None of the band members questioned the long absence? 
   
6. What’s the past story of doctor? He seemed awfully invested in idols in general, even before reincarnation and beyond just loving his oshi. Seemed to go on and on about how unfair idol industry is.
   

Last but not the least, I will say I was not expecting

I rarely drop anime, and this has potential I believe. At least I am hoping for mystery or some twists to hook me in and keep me there. After waiting this long for this first episode, I don’t know what to do with my disappointment.

nushrathumaira said:
About the time the manga was released in English, I learned about the anime coming soon. I managed to not get spoiler much, except the reincarnation which pretty much the synopsis revealed already. I went in blind about the rest of story, including the fact that this was a prologue. That being said, I wasn’t expecting to feel this much underwhelmed about the whole episode and worried what am I not seeing that rest of the fans see ( questioning if the fandom comes largely from kaguya sama)

Here are the points that I am critical about:

1. I do not often question realistic portrayal in anime( watching anime for 20 years will do that), but an idol, won’t have a personal manager is not possible. No matter how small the agency, President won’t drive the idol, organize meetings, handle backstage issues etc. Idols can’t hide their personal relationships from managers, not for long. Ai’s partner flying under radar seems too convenient. Where are the paparazzi in this whole situation. She disappeared to recuperate and no one started sniffing?
   
2. Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 
   
3. Dialogue heavy, like too much. Long dialogues that discuss and delve into harsh realities of idol industry, could have been cut short or demonstrated rather than using in monologues by Aqua. Was it supposed to be eye opening for viewers? Everyone knows how idol industry, heck most of entertainment industry works? Who thinks that entertainers are telling truth through their performance? It’s a comforting lie for everyone.
   
4. How unprofessional everyone in the studio was being before Ai’s performance. And how everyone supposedly got mesmerized when she suddenly started singing. Seriously? Seemed like any other idol performance.
   
5. Idol members are usually very close, often spending lot of time secluded together. None of the band members questioned the long absence? 
   
6. What’s the past story of doctor? He seemed awfully invested in idols in general, even before reincarnation and beyond just loving his oshi. Seemed to go on and on about how unfair idol industry is.
   

Last but not the least, I will say I was not expecting

I rarely drop anime, and this has potential I believe. At least I am hoping for mystery or some twists to hook me in and keep me there. After waiting this long for this first episode, I don’t know what to do with my disappointment.

Crimsonshade_ said:
Here is a serious thought from me.
Do you often judge "a book by it's cover"? I mean seriously? It's the first episode that came out. Instead of analyzing this one episode to the smallest detail, how about a Pro Tip here. Just sit back and enjoy the entertainment!
I mean, and now just hear me out,

1. you are talking about "realistic portrayal in anime". Realism, in a TV show, is the LEAST thing you should expect. EVERY show you can watch, isn't realistic. Everything in the field of film and television is always drawn up in such a way that a certain thread can be drawn through the story.
Best example for this. Ever thought about how often the characters in action movies have to reload? Let alone how many of them even hold their guns? Or how often they get hit? Most of these things are not possible, or are simply overdone, so that the viewer is at his best, and can experience the story, or the action, or whatever the author wants to express.
And yeah, I hear you, that in real life, this would never happen, that a 16 year old star gets pregnant by a stranger, and the hole paparazzi society doesn't know about it. But this part of the story HAS to be told like that, because the Doctor HAS to experience all of that, and to die at the end just to be reincarnated.

2., I don't quite understand what you're trying to say.

3. not everyone knows how the show biz works. Many people may even only know the show business from America with the big Hollywood blockbusters. That the relationship in Japan/Korea is completely different, where this idol culture is much bigger than in the western countries (Europe, America), is not as well known as one might think. Just best to see how much animators actually earn on anime. (Good to see, at this article from the AnimeNewsNetwork).

And especially in the film industry, I have to quote the anime here "Pretty lies are what fans want" - 1:05:24
I don't want to see the truth, because I already have enough of that in my life, I want to feel entertained.

4. that's the truth. I'm not a professional when it comes to film business, but I have experience with stage performances in both acting and music, and it's very different when you watch a performance on stage from a video, or you can see a performance live. Something like that blows your mind more than you would like it to.
At least that was the case at all the concerts I've been to.

5. I guess sometimes, it's just a business. It's not really a friend, it's just a coworker. And if you are the lonely person, or you just don't want to share your life with these people, your other team members have to accept it I guess.

6. The Doc's back story is more that he felt obligated to follow this idol group because his, presumably dearest patient and now sister, Sarina, was a big fan, and since she died, he also started to take more interest because he felt "guilty" in a way? At least that's how I understood the story.

Now some final words,
I don't like this talk like, "I rarely drop anime" or "I am hoping for [...] some twists to hook me and keep me there". If you like it, it's good, if you don't it's also good. Everyone has it's own taste. You don't have to watch it. I don't care if you drop it or not. It's just very frustrating, that a lot of people are watching the newest hype anime or series in general, just to complain about it, and say what they don't like about it. I would bet, even though you had a lot to complain about it, there would still be something, that might was fun to watch for you. And if not, I would recommend, to maybe switch the genre, if you don't feel joy in watching shows like that. (I mean, there is a reason, why you decided to watch it apart from "let's see where it goes")

AnKenWSG said:
1. Nothing to discuss here. Note that it could actually happen though, but it IS convenient tbh. 
2. Comedy. But if 2 newborns started talking to you in perfect english idk it's difficult to know how you'd react.
3. Personally, I think it's necessary dialogue, we as the viewers learn from aqua's perspective who is learning as well, you can be a fan but that doesn't necessarily mean you know exactly what happens behind the scenes. I also do think it's very important to build Ai's character and make you empathize with her.
4. They have probably done this so many times they just don't care who's performing and just look for the most profitable ones. But the whole point of the scene is kinda to show how good Ai is as an idol.
5. I mean, not necessarily, (doesn't go with Ai's character) but either way pretty valid point.
6. That was explained in like the first 10 minutes.

That said, as a manga reader I personally think this is one of the highest peaks in the story, so if it didn't get you hooked by now, please consider it may not be for you.

Enmanuelc92 said:
I really dont know how to quote so sorry.

I want to say in regards of your point no. 4 that, maybe its something hard for the anime to show it without context but the reaction of the crew to her performance makes sense if you apply the in-universe logic that Ai has perfected how to fake being an idol, she says it, she practices every movement, the way she smiles, when she smiles, everything she is on the stage is cautiously selected by her for people to like her.

This is further seen when she sees the reactions to her smile whenRuby and Aqua do the fan dance thingie, she understands what people like and work hard to deliver it.

Pifge2 said:

Firstly: I'm usually somebody who doesn't think much about what happens and just enjoys watching it, so perhaps this answer doesn't really fit.
Secondly: Please excuse, if my English isn't that good. I'm German.
About your first point: I'm not sure anymore, but wasn't Ai adopted by her manager or something like that? Perhaps I made something up, but I thought this since I first read the Manga.
And about your sixth: Does his past matter for why he likes Idols? One of his patients liked them and when she died he started to like Ai, who was her favourite, because she reminded him of her. And if you like one it wouldn't be unnatural to make a deep dive into the whole media, I think. (At least this was how I got into Anime.)
For the rest I can't really say anything, but from what you said I think you probably wouldn't like the rest of the show if you didn't like the prologue. But for a definite answer I would need to read the first volumes of the Manga again, so I would recommend to watch a few more episodes and then drop it, if you still don't like it.

boolinonmars said:
i didn't enjoy this dog shit either. this is definitely gonna be one of those garbage animes that retarded tiktok weebs praise as a masterpiece. 


the point about realistic portrayal though is valid because this show takes place in a mundane real world setting so it should have a bit of realism but it doesn't. like the creepy main character reincarnating into ai's son doesn't even make sense and is way too convenient. if ai was already bout to deliver the twins the embryos souls should've already been developed so the mc would've reincarnated into another woman's baby who just got pregnant. also when the babies were dancing at ai's show no one really questioning how they were dancing that coordinated was really stupid even if they're just babies. and yea your last point about ai getting killed and trying to explain that she really loves her fans to the guy that just killed her is why i'm dropping this imbecilic garbage. that moment was too melodramatic for me 

TaifSux said:
1. President's wife acted as her personal manager and for a obivous reason ( Ai having kids). You clealry missed that part where she was on a computer organizing a schedule.

2. They acted completely childike in front of everyone..Aqua only seriously talked with the director and director did took him as bit of  creepy for his age..Thats why he was after Aqua.

3.Thats a subjective take, I guess this show is not for you. For me dialiuges were one of the best parts of this show.

4.When AI was out of the buiness they didn't performed a single show for months...I was mentioned too somwhere in the show.

5. This thing was explained at the beginning , Doctor wasn't a idol fanatic rather than He is Ai fanatic. Becuase when Rubys previous self died saying she wan't to be like Ai in the future that speech hitted him. he followed Ai since then to see Ai grow, Doctor sawed ruby's previous self into Ai, a paitent he failed to save.
if you follow a person for years after years its obivous you will from a emotional bond with that person , thats why Doctor was Ai fanatic.


My suggestion is to pay attention while watching rather than trying to find flaw into every single thing...

nushrathumaira said:
Brain may have past memory and cognizance of adult, body is too ? It’s more ridiculous than boss baby somehow. All adults readily accepting everything was too much for me. 

Lightsrevenge said:

I was thinking about the paparazzi when I watched it as well. But after watching other anime I assumed that the manager or the production company had a plausible explanation to keep them away. As far as the long explanation about idol industry it’s setting up the story as well as how Ai feels about it and it makes sense if you watch to the end. I think the comedy early on in the story works well . The audience lets their guard down so the emotion is stronger in the later parts.

Orbakun said:
1: it’s a little bit of a stretch but this anime also had reincarnation, you need to suspend your disbelief a little bit.
2:yeah miyako believing the babies is absurd, but she was also stupid enough to marry the president with the intention of remarrying a pretty young guy without expecting to have to have any marital responsibilities
5: read Aka’s side story 45510 if you really want to see how Ai was with others. But Ai was a liar, she always was and the other members knew this and were envied that Ai, who was always lying, was always the star of the show. She stayed aloof and keeper quiet and that made the other members dislike her
6: this was explained in the episode. He had a patient, serina, who was a huge fan of Ai and died and that made him get very invested as a fan. I think the unique perspective of a doctor trying to help cover up the kids lead him to realize some things about the industry
7: I think Ai was trying to talk down Ryousuke so he wouldn’t go after the kids. She was protecting them by using her words to get him to drop the knife. though that is just my interpretation of it

I skipped 3 and 4 because 3 was an hard to argue on an objective front since dialogue is pretty subjective (ofc there is objectively bad dialogue like everything in the starwars prequels) and 4 is a legitimate criticism

to answer of this gets better, the answer is: kinda. Imo the prolouge was very good and the rest of it slightly dips in quality but if you disliked the prolouge idk if you’d like it more or less. if your primary complaint with the first episode is having to suspend your disbelief an absurd amount then there are a couple things that might piss you off in the upcoming episodes but for the most part i’d say you have so suspend your disbelief a lot less.

around the end of S2 though the series will be at its peak if you stick around that long.

nushrathumaira said:

My words are going to come off as confrontational, just a heads up. Feel free to ignore. I am replying to acknowledge that you read the post and decided to write a reasonable reply.
First episode is not a cover though, there is an anime cover poster, synopsis and most of all, a manga that I knew about the time it was decided to be licensed in English. Everyone judges something, you maybe judged it to be really good, I didn’t but I am reserving mine until I finish it. The post title said “underwhelm” me, not everyone.

There is no pro tip for watching anime, or any piece of media, unless this is related to my work.
The realistic portrayal of idols getting pregnant is what I was frustrated, but as you said(several others too) it had to happen this way for the plot to move along. I see the point there , doesn’t mean I like it.
For the fourth point, I felt it was overselling the appeal of Ai to general, how she seemed to mesmerize everyone, even staff who seen hundreds of idols and was just criticizing her moments earlier.
For fifth point, everyone seems to misunderstand what I wrote. Close as in close proximity, not someone with close bond. Fir sixth, yes you are right, I do see the doctors pov in different light after much thought.
Again I am saying I am not watching oshi no ko because its hyped, you shouldn’t assume that for everyone, specially when the manga is there. Oshi no ko isn’t representative of any genre for me to decide if I like or dislike particular genre.
All those people that complain, maybe they have reasons or just doing bait, as other commentators said. Either way, it’s still their opinion to express.

Eldencheese said:
Reincarnation is unrealistic

Hindu people: dude wtf we do to you

Crimsonshade_ said:
Just to be clear, my words were not meant to be confrontational either. (Well, the last was possibly a bit over the top and I apologize for that).
It was more on the opposite.
I just had the feeling, because I read this not only from you but also from other people, that they classify the anime as "worth to drop" after the first episode, which in my eyes is the same as judging a book by its cover. (Even though you're right that this episode was less of a cover, and more of a cover poster. But still, it's like reading the first chapter of [enter a book-title here], and saying "Yup. It's crap.")
In my point of view, an opinion should be made up of the big picture.
The reason I responded to your points was not to make a statement, but to clarify, that some of the points you mentioned may not be as they seem.

To go back to number 4, I have to agree with you that it was too much advertised how much the employees were suddenly taken with Ai's appearance. The fact that they already had dozens of other idols standing in front of them was something I hadn't considered.
For point 5, I have to say that the anime doesn't tell us very much in this case. We don't get to see how the relationship between her and the other band members is, but I also think that it might have just been "made to fit". However, people with a close bond should get behind it sooner than people from close proximity. But still, if someone wants to hide something, even from his friends, then I think that he will somehow manage. Especially when even the manager is worried about it.
But also here I must say, was possibly misunderstood by me.
And last but not least, thank you for accepting my answer to point 6, and thinking about it.
That was the real reason of my message, and not to offend you or anyone else.
I also have to agree with the last paragraph you wrote. The anime is not representative of any genre.
However, I'd also like to say that by "hype anime" I didn't mean that you watched it, because of that, but more like that I've also noticed this with several anime that have just been trending, where, right after the first episode, negative comments have popped up.
By that I didn't mean that I don't accept these comments, or don't accept people's opinions, but that I just noticed this "attitude" that is becoming more and more common (or it's just striking me more and more) that people are just complaining to complain.

So all in all, I have to say, thanks for your response, and accepting the dialog.
And sorry, if might have attacked you with something.