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Mar 18, 2022 11:52 PM
#51
SaiboT789 said: Gojo so far is more impressive than Sukuna, but Sukuna is easily 2nd strongest rn. Sukuna cant slice Gojo with his infinity up, infinity protects Gojo 24/7. Gojos domain definitely looses to Sukuna BUT since Sukuna domain is open Gojo can just teleport outta Sukuna domain and have infinity up again. I think Gojo stomps sukuna rn cause sukuna has shown nothing that can bypass infinity other than DE (which gojo can tp out of), so long term or short term if sukuna can't bypass infinity he is done forFaozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D |
Mar 19, 2022 3:18 AM
#52
Faozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Gojo so far is more impressive than Sukuna, but Sukuna is easily 2nd strongest rn. Sukuna cant slice Gojo with his infinity up, infinity protects Gojo 24/7. Gojos domain definitely looses to Sukuna BUT since Sukuna domain is open Gojo can just teleport outta Sukuna domain and have infinity up again. I think Gojo stomps sukuna rn cause sukuna has shown nothing that can bypass infinity other than DE (which gojo can tp out of), so long term or short term if sukuna can't bypass infinity he is done forFaozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D Hmm But The Infinity only slows everything down as it approached Gojo, so maybe Sukuna's slices could be fast enough to still hit him. About the Domain.. I don't know if it was ever stated, but I doubt that Gojo's Teleportation has like no limit.. And Sukuna's Domain is really big so I don't think he could TP out of it at once.. And since Sukuna's Domain slices everything and everyone inside of it, maybe Sukuna would have like a short moment of time to hit him before he gets to leave the Domain.. Despite that Sukuna probably has more Cursed Techniques given what he has done to Jogo.. But ofcourse we don't know much about that yet.. But on the other hand sure, if Gojo can really just TP right out of Sukuna's Domain and his slices don't work, then it won't be easy for Sukuna.. But unless I see it with my own eyes, I highly doubt that the infinity can just fend off Sukuna's slices like any other attack.. I sure we'll get to see it soon though. |
Mar 19, 2022 3:35 AM
#53
SaiboT789 said: infinity slows down everything that's going to hit gojo so even an infinitely fast attack won't be able to bypass infinity, and we have seen Mahoraga adapt and deflect cleave from sukuna so we know he won't be able to bypass gojos infinity with slices, if you still argue against this you are just being ignorant or too much a sukuna fanboy. We know Inumaki was caught in sukuna domain in Shibuya AND he came out alive with just a lost arm, so if Inumaki can survive sukuna barrier, gojo can easily get away from sukuna domain without getting hit, or he can use, yk, a simple domain? And nullify the sure hit? And number of techniques dont matter here if none of them can bypass infinity, there is a reason Kenjaku didn't 1v1 gojo despite having so many CTs (via CSM) or he is the number 1 sorcerer despite Yuta being able to have more techniques than Gojo (for a limited time). Gojo fucks 15F sukuna and everyone else in the series easily rn if you still think Sukuna "has a chance" or "will do some damage" or "long term fight will be hard" then I am just gonna assume you are a sukuna fanboyFaozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Faozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D Hmm But The Infinity only slows everything down as it approached Gojo, so maybe Sukuna's slices could be fast enough to still hit him. About the Domain.. I don't know if it was ever stated, but I doubt that Gojo's Teleportation has like no limit.. And Sukuna's Domain is really big so I don't think he could TP out of it at once.. And since Sukuna's Domain slices everything and everyone inside of it, maybe Sukuna would have like a short moment of time to hit him before he gets to leave the Domain.. Despite that Sukuna probably has more Cursed Techniques given what he has done to Jogo.. But ofcourse we don't know much about that yet.. But on the other hand sure, if Gojo can really just TP right out of Sukuna's Domain and his slices don't work, then it won't be easy for Sukuna.. But unless I see it with my own eyes, I highly doubt that the infinity can just fend off Sukuna's slices like any other attack.. I sure we'll get to see it soon though. |
Mar 19, 2022 4:06 AM
#54
Faozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: infinity slows down everything that's going to hit gojo so even an infinitely fast attack won't be able to bypass infinity, and we have seen Mahoraga adapt and deflect cleave from sukuna so we know he won't be able to bypass gojos infinity with slices, if you still argue against this you are just being ignorant or too much a sukuna fanboy. We know Inumaki was caught in sukuna domain in Shibuya AND he came out alive with just a lost arm, so if Inumaki can survive sukuna barrier, gojo can easily get away from sukuna domain without getting hit, or he can use, yk, a simple domain? And nullify the sure hit? And number of techniques dont matter here if none of them can bypass infinity, there is a reason Kenjaku didn't 1v1 gojo despite having so many CTs (via CSM) or he is the number 1 sorcerer despite Yuta being able to have more techniques than Gojo (for a limited time). Gojo fucks 15F sukuna and everyone else in the series easily rn if you still think Sukuna "has a chance" or "will do some damage" or "long term fight will be hard" then I am just gonna assume you are a sukuna fanboyFaozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Gojo so far is more impressive than Sukuna, but Sukuna is easily 2nd strongest rn. Sukuna cant slice Gojo with his infinity up, infinity protects Gojo 24/7. Gojos domain definitely looses to Sukuna BUT since Sukuna domain is open Gojo can just teleport outta Sukuna domain and have infinity up again. I think Gojo stomps sukuna rn cause sukuna has shown nothing that can bypass infinity other than DE (which gojo can tp out of), so long term or short term if sukuna can't bypass infinity he is done forFaozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D Hmm But The Infinity only slows everything down as it approached Gojo, so maybe Sukuna's slices could be fast enough to still hit him. About the Domain.. I don't know if it was ever stated, but I doubt that Gojo's Teleportation has like no limit.. And Sukuna's Domain is really big so I don't think he could TP out of it at once.. And since Sukuna's Domain slices everything and everyone inside of it, maybe Sukuna would have like a short moment of time to hit him before he gets to leave the Domain.. Despite that Sukuna probably has more Cursed Techniques given what he has done to Jogo.. But ofcourse we don't know much about that yet.. But on the other hand sure, if Gojo can really just TP right out of Sukuna's Domain and his slices don't work, then it won't be easy for Sukuna.. But unless I see it with my own eyes, I highly doubt that the infinity can just fend off Sukuna's slices like any other attack.. I sure we'll get to see it soon though. Hmm okay first of all calm down mate, I like both of them about the same.. You can call me a Sukuna Fanboy or whateve since I like Sukuna a lot but I also like Gojo a lot. About the slicing I think you're right, as long as the infinity is up Sukuna won't be able to slice him. Though Sukuna could Undo his infinity by using a Simple Domain or Domain Amplification and since I'd guess they both have around the same speed, Sukuna has a short window of time in which he could hit Gojo. Also I don't care who has more techniques, but we don't know what other Techniques Sukuna still has and it would be possible for him to have a lot stronger Techniques that could possibly damage Gojo. Ofcourse we don't know that yet, so that argument isn't valid rn, I just wanted to make clear that I don't care who has more Techniques, just that there's a possibility of him having even stronger techniques. Kenjaku is just weaker than Gojo that's for sure, and Yuta has the potential to surpass Gojo but rn that's not the case. |
Mar 19, 2022 4:47 AM
#55
SaiboT789 said: Yea Sukuna can get more techniques when he gets all his 20 fingers which is why I said before that I think gojo will die at the hands of sukuna, 20F sukuna imo will be >gojo but for now sukuna losesFaozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Faozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Gojo so far is more impressive than Sukuna, but Sukuna is easily 2nd strongest rn. Sukuna cant slice Gojo with his infinity up, infinity protects Gojo 24/7. Gojos domain definitely looses to Sukuna BUT since Sukuna domain is open Gojo can just teleport outta Sukuna domain and have infinity up again. I think Gojo stomps sukuna rn cause sukuna has shown nothing that can bypass infinity other than DE (which gojo can tp out of), so long term or short term if sukuna can't bypass infinity he is done forFaozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D Hmm But The Infinity only slows everything down as it approached Gojo, so maybe Sukuna's slices could be fast enough to still hit him. About the Domain.. I don't know if it was ever stated, but I doubt that Gojo's Teleportation has like no limit.. And Sukuna's Domain is really big so I don't think he could TP out of it at once.. And since Sukuna's Domain slices everything and everyone inside of it, maybe Sukuna would have like a short moment of time to hit him before he gets to leave the Domain.. Despite that Sukuna probably has more Cursed Techniques given what he has done to Jogo.. But ofcourse we don't know much about that yet.. But on the other hand sure, if Gojo can really just TP right out of Sukuna's Domain and his slices don't work, then it won't be easy for Sukuna.. But unless I see it with my own eyes, I highly doubt that the infinity can just fend off Sukuna's slices like any other attack.. I sure we'll get to see it soon though. Hmm okay first of all calm down mate, I like both of them about the same.. You can call me a Sukuna Fanboy or whateve since I like Sukuna a lot but I also like Gojo a lot. About the slicing I think you're right, as long as the infinity is up Sukuna won't be able to slice him. Though Sukuna could Undo his infinity by using a Simple Domain or Domain Amplification and since I'd guess they both have around the same speed, Sukuna has a short window of time in which he could hit Gojo. Also I don't care who has more techniques, but we don't know what other Techniques Sukuna still has and it would be possible for him to have a lot stronger Techniques that could possibly damage Gojo. Ofcourse we don't know that yet, so that argument isn't valid rn, I just wanted to make clear that I don't care who has more Techniques, just that there's a possibility of him having even stronger techniques. Kenjaku is just weaker than Gojo that's for sure, and Yuta has the potential to surpass Gojo but rn that's not the case. |
Mar 19, 2022 5:54 AM
#56
Faozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Yea Sukuna can get more techniques when he gets all his 20 fingers which is why I said before that I think gojo will die at the hands of sukuna, 20F sukuna imo will be >gojo but for now sukuna losesFaozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: infinity slows down everything that's going to hit gojo so even an infinitely fast attack won't be able to bypass infinity, and we have seen Mahoraga adapt and deflect cleave from sukuna so we know he won't be able to bypass gojos infinity with slices, if you still argue against this you are just being ignorant or too much a sukuna fanboy. We know Inumaki was caught in sukuna domain in Shibuya AND he came out alive with just a lost arm, so if Inumaki can survive sukuna barrier, gojo can easily get away from sukuna domain without getting hit, or he can use, yk, a simple domain? And nullify the sure hit? And number of techniques dont matter here if none of them can bypass infinity, there is a reason Kenjaku didn't 1v1 gojo despite having so many CTs (via CSM) or he is the number 1 sorcerer despite Yuta being able to have more techniques than Gojo (for a limited time). Gojo fucks 15F sukuna and everyone else in the series easily rn if you still think Sukuna "has a chance" or "will do some damage" or "long term fight will be hard" then I am just gonna assume you are a sukuna fanboyFaozan_ said: SaiboT789 said: Gojo so far is more impressive than Sukuna, but Sukuna is easily 2nd strongest rn. Sukuna cant slice Gojo with his infinity up, infinity protects Gojo 24/7. Gojos domain definitely looses to Sukuna BUT since Sukuna domain is open Gojo can just teleport outta Sukuna domain and have infinity up again. I think Gojo stomps sukuna rn cause sukuna has shown nothing that can bypass infinity other than DE (which gojo can tp out of), so long term or short term if sukuna can't bypass infinity he is done forFaozan_ said: Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken Nah IMO that's way exagerrated. I think what we've seen of Sukuna until now is more impressive than what we've seen of Gojo. I'd even go so far as to say that Sukuna could slice Gojo even with his infinity intact.. Also I don't think Gojo's Domain would overpower Sukuna's Domain as easily as Jogo's. By now, I'd say Gojo could possibly win against 15F Sukuna, but would at least take long-term damage.. But I'm interested to know why you think that Gojo wouldn't take any damage against Sukuna now, if you don't mind telling me your reasoning :D Hmm But The Infinity only slows everything down as it approached Gojo, so maybe Sukuna's slices could be fast enough to still hit him. About the Domain.. I don't know if it was ever stated, but I doubt that Gojo's Teleportation has like no limit.. And Sukuna's Domain is really big so I don't think he could TP out of it at once.. And since Sukuna's Domain slices everything and everyone inside of it, maybe Sukuna would have like a short moment of time to hit him before he gets to leave the Domain.. Despite that Sukuna probably has more Cursed Techniques given what he has done to Jogo.. But ofcourse we don't know much about that yet.. But on the other hand sure, if Gojo can really just TP right out of Sukuna's Domain and his slices don't work, then it won't be easy for Sukuna.. But unless I see it with my own eyes, I highly doubt that the infinity can just fend off Sukuna's slices like any other attack.. I sure we'll get to see it soon though. Hmm okay first of all calm down mate, I like both of them about the same.. You can call me a Sukuna Fanboy or whateve since I like Sukuna a lot but I also like Gojo a lot. About the slicing I think you're right, as long as the infinity is up Sukuna won't be able to slice him. Though Sukuna could Undo his infinity by using a Simple Domain or Domain Amplification and since I'd guess they both have around the same speed, Sukuna has a short window of time in which he could hit Gojo. Also I don't care who has more techniques, but we don't know what other Techniques Sukuna still has and it would be possible for him to have a lot stronger Techniques that could possibly damage Gojo. Ofcourse we don't know that yet, so that argument isn't valid rn, I just wanted to make clear that I don't care who has more Techniques, just that there's a possibility of him having even stronger techniques. Kenjaku is just weaker than Gojo that's for sure, and Yuta has the potential to surpass Gojo but rn that's not the case. No that's not what I meant. You remember what he did with Jogo right? he said "Open" and the suddenly used Flames.. and that's what I'm talking about.. What kind of other Stuff could he do with that "Technique".. What else could he pull out? That's what I meant. |
Mar 19, 2022 5:58 AM
#57
Faozan_ said: infinity slows down everything that's going to hit gojo so even an infinitely fast attack won't be able to bypass infinity, Well, that's wrong. An infinitely fast attack IS the way to overcome infinity. Gege talks about this in one of the volume extras. and we have seen Mahoraga adapt and deflect cleave from sukuna so we know he won't be able to bypass gojos infinity with slices, Normal Cleave and Dismantle won't bypass Infinity. But the sure-hit Cleave in Sukuna's Domain will bypass Infinity. We know Inumaki was caught in sukuna domain in Shibuya AND he came out alive with just a lost arm, so if Inumaki can survive sukuna barrier, gojo can easily get away from sukuna domain without getting hit, Inumaki was on the edge and luckily only lost an arm. or he can use, yk, a simple domain? And nullify the sure hit? A Simple Domain nullifies sure-hit by cancelling out the barrier but Sukuna's Domain doesn't have a barrier so a Simple Domain is useless against it. The sure-hit in Sukuna's Domain cannot be cancelled. That being said, Gojo wins against 15F Sukuna. No doubt about it. |
Mar 19, 2022 9:21 AM
#58
troilus_05s said: naah a simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit CT which you can say the innate technique because that's the only one which is sure hit as Domain is infused with itFaozan_ said: infinity slows down everything that's going to hit gojo so even an infinitely fast attack won't be able to bypass infinity, Well, that's wrong. An infinitely fast attack IS the way to overcome infinity. Gege talks about this in one of the volume extras. and we have seen Mahoraga adapt and deflect cleave from sukuna so we know he won't be able to bypass gojos infinity with slices, Normal Cleave and Dismantle won't bypass Infinity. But the sure-hit Cleave in Sukuna's Domain will bypass Infinity. We know Inumaki was caught in sukuna domain in Shibuya AND he came out alive with just a lost arm, so if Inumaki can survive sukuna barrier, gojo can easily get away from sukuna domain without getting hit, Inumaki was on the edge and luckily only lost an arm. or he can use, yk, a simple domain? And nullify the sure hit? A Simple Domain nullifies sure-hit by cancelling out the barrier but Sukuna's Domain doesn't have a barrier so a Simple Domain is useless against it. The sure-hit in Sukuna's Domain cannot be cancelled. That being said, Gojo wins against 15F Sukuna. No doubt about it. Mechamaru hurting mahito's soul before mahito established his domain from simple domain infused bullets proves it Because in Reggie fight, narrator said simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit attack only |
Mar 19, 2022 9:39 AM
#59
Sanjii_1234 said: naah a simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit CT which you can say the innate technique because that's the only one which is sure hit as Domain is infused with it When did I say otherwise? Mechamaru hurting mahito's soul before mahito established his domain from simple domain infused bullets proves it It is explained by Kenjaku saying all domains leave the opponent vulnerable to attacks. Idle Transfiguration or Infinity cannot protect you in a domain, whether it is an expansion or simple. Because in Reggie fight, narrator said simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit attack only When did I say that simple domains don't nullify sure hit attacks? Simple Domains nullify the sure hit attack by neutralizing the barrier. Same reason Megumi nullified Dagon's sure hit with his Domain Expansion because he broke Dagon's barrier using his Domain. Sukuna's Domain does not have a barrier so how can a Simple Domain nullify the sure hit? |
Mar 19, 2022 9:52 AM
#60
troilus_05s said: Megumi was able to hit Reggie because his domain was incomplete, right??Sanjii_1234 said: naah a simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit CT which you can say the innate technique because that's the only one which is sure hit as Domain is infused with it When did I say otherwise? Mechamaru hurting mahito's soul before mahito established his domain from simple domain infused bullets proves it It is explained by Kenjaku saying all domains leave the opponent vulnerable to attacks. Idle Transfiguration or Infinity cannot protect you in a domain, whether it is an expansion or simple. Because in Reggie fight, narrator said simple domain nuetrailze the sure hit attack only When did I say that simple domains don't nullify sure hit attacks? Simple Domains nullify the sure hit attack by neutralizing the barrier. Same reason Megumi nullified Dagon's sure hit with his Domain Expansion because he broke Dagon's barrier using his Domain. Sukuna's Domain does not have a barrier so how can a Simple Domain nullify the sure hit? And hence simple domain was useless for Reggie But then how mechamaru was able to hurt mahito's soul before mahito established Domain as if there was no domain then simple domain shouldn't nuetrailze mahito's innate technique and shouldn't hit his soul |
Mar 19, 2022 10:09 AM
#61
@Sanjii_1234 What happened in Reggie vs Megumi was that Reggie used a Simple Domain and calmed down that he won't get hit by sure hit attacks now. But was immediately hit by a normal attack and realised that Megumi's Domain is incomplete so Megumi was always going to attack with normal attacks. Reggie just messed up. Also, I don't see how this battle is relevant here. So in Mechamaru vs Mahito, Kenjaku explains that "Domains neutralize opponents' Techniques." He doesn't say Domain Expansion. He just said Domains. So I believe Simple Domains are also included here. Mechamaru's Simple Domain missiles neutralized Mahito's CT when it hit Mahito and thus the explosion was able to damage Mahito. |
Mar 19, 2022 6:55 PM
#62
troilus_05s said: ohh so domains nuetrailze the defensive use of curse technique and sure hit factor of Domain , not the normal attacks@Sanjii_1234 What happened in Reggie vs Megumi was that Reggie used a Simple Domain and calmed down that he won't get hit by sure hit attacks now. But was immediately hit by a normal attack and realised that Megumi's Domain is incomplete so Megumi was always going to attack with normal attacks. Reggie just messed up. Also, I don't see how this battle is relevant here. So in Mechamaru vs Mahito, Kenjaku explains that "Domains neutralize opponents' Techniques." He doesn't say Domain Expansion. He just said Domains. So I believe Simple Domains are also included here. Mechamaru's Simple Domain missiles neutralized Mahito's CT when it hit Mahito and thus the explosion was able to damage Mahito. Thanks for explaining dude ʘ‿ʘ |
Jun 6, 2022 11:26 PM
#63
DonAngelon said: 15 fingers sukuna would be enough for gojo but it won't be an easy fight.Sukuna with 15fingers claps gojo extreme diff and sukuna with 20 fingers destroys gojo mid diff. You're funny you cant justify how Sukuna would be able to get through Gojo's infinity. |
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