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Oct 17, 2021 6:53 AM
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I would say that the highs of the arc (Meruem fight, killua godspeed etc) makes up for the arc’s bad pacing.
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I'm not in the mood to write a 20-paragraph essay
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Shonen_6307 said:
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IDK man y people say it is the best shonen arc..........This was slow as f.....it wasnt even the best arc in HxH...........now some people may say there r amzing fights in chimera ant arc........But if we judge an arc only cause of fights then many other shonen arcs like enies lobby arc from one piece are better arcs with better fights than entire HxH ..............for me tooo chimera ant was boring for most of the part cause the pacing was slow as f..........but I agree that Gon vs Pitou and Netero vs Meruem was awesome ........not the best tho
if u have pacing problems with chimera ant arc go watch one piece dressrosa arc and u will know what bad pacing really is


I didnt compared dressrosa with chimera ant arc.........I am not even sayin that chimera ant arc is bad........chimera ant arc is good but one of the problems with it is pacing.......

I was just trying to say that chimera ant arc is good arc but not the best arc........one piece arc like enies lobby have better fights,character and pacing then chimera ant........

and I know what trash pacing is......I admit that one piece pacing was horrible till enies lobby.....100x more slow then chimera ant arc.......I am on one piece ep 360 and I am loving it cause I dont have problem with pacing now .......havent watched dressrosa and wont comment about it now......

again I was just saying chimera ant arc is a good arc but not the best.......I explained it by comparing it with a specific arc that is enies lobby......

maybe u r right about dressrosa having more bad pacing than chimera ant but I was comparing it with enies lobby and saying that it is better than chimera ant arc.......so chimera ant isnt the best shonen arc.........

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Oct 17, 2021 7:35 AM

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Hrybami said:
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Yeah it's useless to talk to them when our taste on which is boring and which is not are different.


I haven't seen Naruto, but I always find it funny how liking Naruto is an indicator of shit taste for HxH fans and yet they fail to realize liking Huntrash x Garbage could be an indicator of shit taste as well for someone else. Seriously, it's the fandom who hard believe their opinions are official facts the most and it leads to some super cringe threads like this one where most arguments thrown is what came out first and which one is the most different. Completely forgetting Huntrash x Garbage didn't invent anything and it's still at its core a generic shounen. Just an edgier generic shounen.

I didn't said anything like that, you probably misquoted me, it should be another person.

But yeah I also think that HXH is clearly better than Naruto. Not saying Naruto is bad, early part was quite fine, but Shippuden is disastrous with fillers on top of that.
I never think of it's especially edgier too, in fact HXH has relatively more"fun" arc like Greed Island. Most battle shonen, if not all, tried to be edgier at some point.

About why I said it's most likely will be useless to try to explain why people like Chimera Ant (CA) arc to a Naruto's fan who said that the arc is boring because of slow pace and fighting, it's because those detailed fights is actually the exact reason why CA fans like CA.
Although fights in Naruto are actually more detailed and slower than fights in say, One Piece or Bleach, if compared to HXH, it is still more flashy and random.

In the end of the day, why OP prefer Naruto, and me for example prefer HXH is only the matter of taste. Which one is boring to me is entertaining to him, and vice versa.
That is actually all I want to said. Although I admit I was also trolling a little by saying indirectly that OP's taste is bad lol.
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I personally liked it, but aside from some really strong points like the new characters, Meruem and Komugi's relationship or Meruem vs Netero, things that were stupidly good, the arc was nowhere near as fun as the Exam arc or the Greed Island arc, even if writing-wise is better than them, and on that regard the best arc is, for me at least, the York City arc. It has all of the things I like of the series, from the original main group actively fighting together to epic character like frickin Chrollo who is just so cool.
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ArArAgl said:
Shonen_6307 said:
if u have pacing problems with chimera ant arc go watch one piece dressrosa arc and u will know what bad pacing really is


I didnt compared dressrosa with chimera ant arc.........I am not even sayin that chimera ant arc is bad........chimera ant arc is good but one of the problems with it is pacing.......

I was just trying to say that chimera ant arc is good arc but not the best arc........one piece arc like enies lobby have better fights,character and pacing then chimera ant........

and I know what trash pacing is......I admit that one piece pacing was horrible till enies lobby.....100x more slow then chimera ant arc.......I am on one piece ep 360 and I am loving it cause I dont have problem with pacing now .......havent watched dressrosa and wont comment about it now......

again I was just saying chimera ant arc is a good arc but not the best.......I explained it by comparing it with a specific arc that is enies lobby......

maybe u r right about dressrosa having more bad pacing than chimera ant but I was comparing it with enies lobby and saying that it is better than chimera ant arc.......so chimera ant isnt the best shonen arc.........
i also am not sayin that it is best just sayin it is one of the best, I like hxh very much cuz this anime proved that fights are not the only way to make a show successful, just sayin that(not comparin) u will know what real shit pacing is after u watch dressrosa, I am on 500 ep one piece but my brother has catched up with it and said that dressrosa was the most :( pacing arc in all the anime he have watched so I just said that to u just watch that arc and u will never have pacing problems in any anime after that
Oct 17, 2021 7:59 AM
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ArArAgl said:
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I found this arc to be pretty boring and long. Half of an episode was based on a guy who was revealed to be dead after his back story. We didn’t see as much of Gon and Killua as we wanted. The narrator commented on useless things and dragged out the fight scenes.

So why do people like it? I am not trying to hate on HxH I just am curious as to why people enjoyed this arc.


IDK man y people say it is the best shonen arc..........This was slow as f.....it wasnt even the best arc in HxH...........now some people may say there r amzing fights in chimera ant arc........But if we judge an arc only cause of fights then many other shonen arcs like enies lobby arc from one piece are better arcs with better fights than entire HxH ..............for me tooo chimera ant was boring for most of the part cause the pacing was slow as f..........but I agree that Gon vs Pitou and Netero vs Meruem was awesome ........not the best tho
and a tip for u to watch one pace- don't watch any other anime when u r watching one pace, I watched konosuba while watchin one piece and this happened-i watched 1 ep of one piece which felt like an hour so I didn't watched anime for 2 whole days and then continued watching it just don't watch any other anime at any cost while watchin one piece
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Shonen_6307 said:
ArArAgl said:


I didnt compared dressrosa with chimera ant arc.........I am not even sayin that chimera ant arc is bad........chimera ant arc is good but one of the problems with it is pacing.......

I was just trying to say that chimera ant arc is good arc but not the best arc........one piece arc like enies lobby have better fights,character and pacing then chimera ant........

and I know what trash pacing is......I admit that one piece pacing was horrible till enies lobby.....100x more slow then chimera ant arc.......I am on one piece ep 360 and I am loving it cause I dont have problem with pacing now .......havent watched dressrosa and wont comment about it now......

again I was just saying chimera ant arc is a good arc but not the best.......I explained it by comparing it with a specific arc that is enies lobby......

maybe u r right about dressrosa having more bad pacing than chimera ant but I was comparing it with enies lobby and saying that it is better than chimera ant arc.......so chimera ant isnt the best shonen arc.........
i also am not sayin that it is best just sayin it is one of the best, I like hxh very much cuz this anime proved that fights are not the only way to make a show successful, just sayin that(not comparin) u will know what real shit pacing is after u watch dressrosa, I am on 500 ep one piece but my brother has catched up with it and said that dressrosa was the most :( pacing arc in all the anime he have watched so I just said that to u just watch that arc and u will never have pacing problems in any anime after that


yes I have heared that some arcs in one piece are just pain to watch and maybe as u said dressrosa is one of them .......but I hope it isnt cause I love one piece I dont want it to get boring again :(.......and yes I can see why some people love chimera ant arc and it actually is the very good arc..........
but not the best arc for me........in the end it depends on U what U like......no one can change that......

and I appreciate u for telling me that dressrosa have slower pacing then chimera ant....ty for that :)

"No one can rewrite the stars
How can you say you'll be mine?
Everything keeps us apart
And I'm not the one you were meant to find
It's not up to you you
It's not up to me
When everyone tells us what we can be
How can we rewrite the stars?"
Oct 17, 2021 8:13 AM

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Shonen_6307 said:
ArArAgl said:


IDK man y people say it is the best shonen arc..........This was slow as f.....it wasnt even the best arc in HxH...........now some people may say there r amzing fights in chimera ant arc........But if we judge an arc only cause of fights then many other shonen arcs like enies lobby arc from one piece are better arcs with better fights than entire HxH ..............for me tooo chimera ant was boring for most of the part cause the pacing was slow as f..........but I agree that Gon vs Pitou and Netero vs Meruem was awesome ........not the best tho
and a tip for u to watch one pace- don't watch any other anime when u r watching one pace, I watched konosuba while watchin one piece and this happened-i watched 1 ep of one piece which felt like an hour so I didn't watched anime for 2 whole days and then continued watching it just don't watch any other anime at any cost while watchin one piece


ahh yes I know....thats y I only watch one piece now tooo.....but with some seasonals like KNY, Takt op and platinum end.....total like 3ep a week of other animes.....anyway ty for the tip too....

"No one can rewrite the stars
How can you say you'll be mine?
Everything keeps us apart
And I'm not the one you were meant to find
It's not up to you you
It's not up to me
When everyone tells us what we can be
How can we rewrite the stars?"
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Jim_Heart said:
Hrybami said:


I haven't seen Naruto, but I always find it funny how liking Naruto is an indicator of shit taste for HxH fans and yet they fail to realize liking Huntrash x Garbage could be an indicator of shit taste as well for someone else. Seriously, it's the fandom who hard believe their opinions are official facts the most and it leads to some super cringe threads like this one where most arguments thrown is what came out first and which one is the most different. Completely forgetting Huntrash x Garbage didn't invent anything and it's still at its core a generic shounen. Just an edgier generic shounen.

I didn't said anything like that, you probably misquoted me, it should be another person.

But yeah I also think that HXH is clearly better than Naruto. Not saying Naruto is bad, early part was quite fine, but Shippuden is disastrous with fillers on top of that.
I never think of it's especially edgier too, in fact HXH has relatively more"fun" arc like Greed Island. Most battle shonen, if not all, tried to be edgier at some point.

About why I said it's most likely will be useless to try to explain why people like Chimera Ant (CA) arc to a Naruto's fan who said that the arc is boring because of slow pace and fighting, it's because those detailed fights is actually the exact reason why CA fans like CA.
Although fights in Naruto are actually more detailed and slower than fights in say, One Piece or Bleach, if compared to HXH, it is still more flashy and random.

In the end of the day, why OP prefer Naruto, and me for example prefer HXH is only the matter of taste. Which one is boring to me is entertaining to him, and vice versa.
That is actually all I want to said. Although I admit I was also trolling a little by saying indirectly that OP's taste is bad lol.


You have a point. I wasn't talking about you precisely. I was more talking about the common trend in HxH fandom to disregard someone's else opinion because they prefer something else and act like it's supposed to be obvious and of common sense.

Again, I have not seen Naruto so I could not tell how the fights compare between those two anime. However, the argument of which one is coming first and which one is the most different isn't helping and doesn't tell a single thing about one's quality. More details does not mean better either. It's all and only a matter of taste at this point so further arguments is completely meaningless. I agree.
Oct 17, 2021 8:50 AM
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i got so bored of it man. it was good but so damn long.
Oct 17, 2021 10:43 AM
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HxH is the type of show where rewatching it only makes the show better. The Chimera ant arc is long, but it's a slow build type of story. The symbolism of a monster god becoming human while a human becomes a monster is still one of the best parallels ever written. The duel character arcs really make the arc. The Chimera ant arc is also the anti shounen arc, hxh on its own was always about subverting shounen tropes, but this arc is where that shines. The heros lose, the villain loses to a cheap underhanded move, the hero transforms but it permanently scars him instead of being a power boost, the morals become grey. Humans are hypocrites for destroying the ants and Netero is framed more as a villain than the hero. Kite was the payoff to an entire arc and just dies. Also the tons of small things like how the only time you hear Killua run is when he runs after gon. At first glance you have the same reaction that many people do, it's similar to a lot of people thinking re:zero season 1 was bad. It's the type of arc a casual anime fan who only watches shounen would hate. There are dozens of great video essays about this arc that i would recommend checking out if you really are curious. It's more similar to literature you study in college where you don't fully understand it the first time you read it.
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Completely agree. They definitely milked Chimera Arc for dear life, and by the end I didn't even care who won or lost anymore. The payoff was great, but not worth the snails pace.

It's like when you tell a snobby wine "connoisseur" that a shitty boxed wine is actually the high shelf stuff, and they act like it's of the gods.
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Because the writing was fantastic
Oct 18, 2021 4:23 AM
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I never minded it being that long, but maybe it's because I enjoyed it. I didn't like it just because those 3 episodes, to me the whole arc was interesting. Episodes without action are as good as the ones with. The Meruem and Komogi fights are amazing in my opinion. But the strongest part is probably the immense character development. if you go back to the beginning, and see how much Gon and Killua have changed, it'd be hard to believe.
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I agree that the chimera ant arc dragged on, but the climax was legendary. I'm guessing the whole arc was supposed to be an introduction to the dark continent arc which Togashi might finish in a few decades at this rate.
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BlueCloud5 said:
I found this arc to be pretty boring and long. Half of an episode was based on a guy who was revealed to be dead after his back story. We didn’t see as much of Gon and Killua as we wanted. The narrator commented on useless things and dragged out the fight scenes.

So why do people like it? I am not trying to hate on HxH I just am curious as to why people enjoyed this arc.


I guess because of all the things it seemed to touch, as a fun thing there wasn't a lot, as the usual fun element was removed and gave way to a lot darker moment, even with all the murders in the other arcs it still seemed somehow bright. But this arc was just pure darkness.

I wouldn't say it commented on useless things, I think it set up for the other chapters very well, there was a depth to characters like it wasn't before, delving into the darker side of Gon and showing how unhinged he really was and the major emotional moments that helped the characters break through a lot.

It was very long and it seemed like things stretched out but I think that worked well because the dark periods of life always seem longer and never ending.

Killua finally breaking free from the needle and Gon going batshit crazy.

A character who was supposed to be born a villain proving that villains aren't born they are made, he was learning the way of life but died before he could end it, the beautiful way Mereum and Komugi connected. And they way they ended together and just the difference between a monster and human, where the monster(Mereum) seems to have more humanity than the human(Gon).

But then again this is me just spitballing, there are some really good videos on the chimera ant arc breakdown and stuff if you wanna watch.
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1. Gave me Goosebumps
2. Spine chilling!
3. Electrifying!

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its one of those anime where, if its one of your first, you think its like the greatest show ever.

but once you have seen a good amount of anime, u realize that this show, and the cimera arc especially, actually falls flat. hard
Oct 20, 2021 12:15 AM
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I also have the same question for hunter x hunter fans
Oct 20, 2021 11:09 AM
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Hm let’s see the human to monster , monster to human parallel done by gon and meruem, the amazing theme of hypocrisy being shown in Gons rage sequence when raging AGAINT Pitou he calls Pitou a lousy killer while threatening a injured 16 year old girl to death making him a total hypocrite, the religious symbolism of Buddhism done with Netero and meruems dynamic and their fight sure it’s slowed paced but it has consistent writing and amazing character development read the manga if you feel this is too long which it really isn’t it all it’s some shitty action filled arc like TOP in dbs.
Oct 21, 2021 12:51 AM
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Overrated arc ,don't know why people like it It's dragged out , bad pacing , dull and fcking long
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BlueCloud5 said:
Half of an episode was based on a guy who was revealed to be dead after his back story.
Who are you talking about?
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Oct 23, 2021 10:55 PM

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you see these bull shit forums everyday idiot s who cant take slow pacing and prefer stuff like attack on mid and demon slayer

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Because "muh deconstruction", a buzzword less than a quarter of all the anime fans who love using it know what it actually means.
Oct 26, 2021 5:59 AM

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Idk, maybe it's because the arc is amazingly written imo, from characters to plot escalation to pretty much anything else regarding this arc. It also properly sets up as a major story impact for future arcs to come. Anyway it's all my opinions about it, feel free to disagree if you want to.

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I like this arc it has some of the best moments in the show including my favorite BUT was way to long and I feel like they did not do a good job transistoning in to the arc.
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