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Jun 11, 2015 4:53 PM

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sarroush said:
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Well. That was entertaining wasn't it?
Thankfully it was only two people. Thanks for not participating in that entirely unnecessary fight.
Cookies all around because I'm in a good mood.


Praise it.
Jun 11, 2015 5:14 PM

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Heh, I expected worse, but it only came to this after all...

Guess there are not enough material to fuel enough yuetsu in this one.
Jun 11, 2015 5:25 PM

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I could always lock the thread if that makes you feel better :)
Jun 11, 2015 9:17 PM

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She did have to make a decision after Shirou got out of the classroom. And she decided to give him a chance to surrender and hand in his command seals. She was serious, she machine gunned a whole classroom after trapping Shirou in a boundary field. Then she threw a magical grenade.

With Caster's wish, it's pretty clear for the reasons that are in bold now in the quote above. Now you're arguing that it was badly done not that it was not understandable. Two very different arguments that you keep falsely interchanging.

With Shirou, sure I can understand why someone would dislike Shirou until episode 20&21 as I pointed out in the first post that you replied to. That doesn't mean you can't understand his character. Again, two different statements, disliking his character =/= not understanding after a certain point.


Clearly ruthless.... Shooting at walls and shit. And making deals.

Its hard to understand thats why I wanted them to present it differently. Now u gonna say circular reasoning.

I didnt say if u disliked u didnt understand him after a certain point. Only that by then people may still keep the same feelings for him. If not understanding was the reason for disliking him then you are right, they will like him after that.
I think we went too long with this off-topic. Theres nothing you said that changed my view of things so I have nothing more to discuss.


Her being ruthless was a front. That's the whole point. You're agreeing with it now. Again, it's not hard to understand and even if it was, that's not a bad thing. Besides, there were people who didn't read the VN who understood the characters. Are they somehow smarter than you? Were they just paying more attention? Clearly, if it was badly presented, then why did some people understand and not you?

There's no logic to your arguments because at the end of the day, they're either appealing to people ("some of people I know didn't understand") or they end up being circular ("I didn't understand the characters because they were badly presented. Why didn't I understand? Because they were badly presented! ")
Jun 11, 2015 10:12 PM

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i've said it once and i'll say it again. this thread is bullshit, and this poll is bullshit. the OP is one who ceetainly should have known better what kind of shithole of a thread this would have just ended up as. there really needs to be more options on this poll. it was already bait for shitposting. especially from the F/Z fanboys. there are other anime available and with the common argument going around being information the others needs to be included as options as well.
Jun 12, 2015 5:32 AM

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SaintEmiya said:
Well for me personally, and I'm guessing a LOT of others as a lot of people probably started their Fate/Type-Moon/Whatever fandom from beginning with DEEN. Such as me.


That's what I did and I have had a very enjoyable experience.

Jun 12, 2015 7:51 AM
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Maloghurst said:
i've said it once and i'll say it again. this thread is bullshit, and this poll is bullshit. the OP is one who ceetainly should have known better what kind of shithole of a thread this would have just ended up as. there really needs to be more options on this poll. it was already bait for shitposting. especially from the F/Z fanboys. there are other anime available and with the common argument going around being information the others needs to be included as options as well.


Why? F/Z should be watched first if he isn't going to read the VN
The VN fanboys are much worse in my experience
Jun 12, 2015 8:05 AM

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FanEu said:
Maloghurst said:
i've said it once and i'll say it again. this thread is bullshit, and this poll is bullshit. the OP is one who ceetainly should have known better what kind of shithole of a thread this would have just ended up as. there really needs to be more options on this poll. it was already bait for shitposting. especially from the F/Z fanboys. there are other anime available and with the common argument going around being information the others needs to be included as options as well.


Why? F/Z should be watched first if he isn't going to read the VN
The VN fanboys are much worse in my experience


And then we get the "why should F/Z be watched first?" and "F/Z spoils FSN where as FSN only spoils small portions of FZ that you could see from a mile away anyways." comment.
Jun 12, 2015 8:28 AM

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DoubleMangekyo said:

It almost pains me that I agree with this... I felt this show's dialogue was way too lifeless. I mean, like the characters were saying it but nothing more. Or maybe it's just the slow pacing getting to me. I actually prefer the movie now in terms of adaptation...


That's what I have been saying for weeks. The ufoubw feels like some school rehearsal for a play where everyone is just reading the lines. The visual novel is framed from first person perspective, so you get the full thoughts and atmosphere of the said situations( you get to actually see the main character deciding what to do in each moment which increases tension, you get to see his thoughts and observations on other characters like Rin and her mindset, you get to see whole situations like the boundary field incident observed more closely, etc). For some reason they threw all of that away here, resulting in very lifeless portrayal where things just...happen and then stuff moves on?.

The pacing is less of slow and more of uneven - things that should go faster or not be there, are padded out, things that should go slower to have impact they need, go over in a blink of an eye and everything lacks great bit deal of depth that should actually make the situations carry the punch they should pack.

This little comparison on tumblr for Medea alone kind of highlights the problem with the WHOLE show
Jun 12, 2015 11:07 PM

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FanEu said:
Maloghurst said:
i've said it once and i'll say it again. this thread is bullshit, and this poll is bullshit. the OP is one who ceetainly should have known better what kind of shithole of a thread this would have just ended up as. there really needs to be more options on this poll. it was already bait for shitposting. especially from the F/Z fanboys. there are other anime available and with the common argument going around being information the others needs to be included as options as well.


Why? F/Z should be watched first if he isn't going to read the VN
The VN fanboys are much worse in my experience
because asking for a poll to present more anime options for anime onlies that want to check out the franchise is telling them to read the VN apparently. because bringing up other anime that offer information about this expansive world/multiverse seeing how information is one of the biggest reasons if not the biggest as to why people suggest an order over the another inspite of the fact that the info people keep bringing up is not in any way manditory for understanding the stories that they are telling. because people have different tastes and wont all consider F/Z to be the end all to be all like you F/Z fanboys act like. because there are in fact people who would rather view something as "author intended". because weather or not people care about "intended order", "release order", or even "chronological order" they should at least have as many options that is available to them be presented and even explained because not everybody should just go with your F/Z fanboy ignorance because "you say so".

8 months of you F/Z fanboys and your bullshit. 8 months of your shitposting. 8 months of you people making threads just to bash the fans the work and the author. 8 months of your cancer. and now your trying to play like you fanboys "done nothing" but still claim people should do one thing over the other because "you say so"
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