Higehiro: After Being Rejected, I Shaved and Took in a High School Runaway (light novel)
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Apr 18, 2021 6:46 PM
#31
Raiser00QanT said: No problem dude, that's fine, I also know for sure that later people will split into two side, there are who likes her and not because of the reason she did it, I personally like her as a character she is well built to describe the life of a Japanese homeless girl who are willing to do whatever it takes to survive. ignoring she has had sex with ramdom dude this is my personal opinion Sayu is most worthy end up with Yoshida than other girl you will find out later.after reading that spoilers, I want to say that, thats a weak and dumb reasons to whoring herself. This just eliminate my reason to even like her as main girl at all. like she is not even forced to do it. in Sachi iro One Room, the girl was blackmail and forced rape by her teacher, and she stood herself against him after that... her as main girl never really bother me that much because her circumstance is really strong to justify. while Sayu just..., I dont know, you guys might hate me saying this but, she is a slut. I just hope Yoshida not end up with her, and goes with Gotou or Kouhai, bcuz he deserve better. |
Apr 18, 2021 9:01 PM
#32
I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. |
Apr 18, 2021 9:06 PM
#33
I must say, I'm interested in more complicated issues like this. Unfortunately, it does happen in real life. To mostly women, in worse situations. Abusive parents, or partners,, the prostitutes with low self-esteem maybe feel like they don't have other options to better their situation, and maybe even, get out of a bad one. Or, they find that these services are better and faster ways of making a lot of cash. Also, who has heard of a 17 year old making responsible and good decisions? I mean, come on! It's a time of growing and learning how the world works. Lots of dumb decisions are made during this time. I just feel bad that maybe her first time wasn't as magical or satisfying as it may have been romanticized and dreamed about, beforehand. In summary, please don't judge people for decisions they have to make. Everyone's life is different. There's no instruction book on what to do or say, in several situations. |
Apr 18, 2021 9:19 PM
#34
Koustubh said: I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. I totally understand running away from home and I even support it. But she could've taken better measures to survive instead of prostituting herself. She could have worked part time, went to some kind of rescue place for minors, or found a better person to stay with. cpislndr74 said: I must say, I'm interested in more complicated issues like this. Unfortunately, it does happen in real life. To mostly women, in worse situations. Abusive parents, or partners,, the prostitutes with low self-esteem maybe feel like they don't have other options to better their situation, and maybe even, get out of a bad one. Or, they find that these services are better and faster ways of making a lot of cash. Also, who has heard of a 17 year old making responsible and good decisions? I mean, come on! It's a time of growing and learning how the world works. Lots of dumb decisions are made during this time. I just feel bad that maybe her first time wasn't as magical or satisfying as it may have been romanticized and dreamed about, beforehand. In summary, please don't judge people for decisions they have to make. Everyone's life is different. There's no instruction book on what to do or say, in several situations. Yes, that happens in real life and situations are often far worse. But like I said before, Sayu could have found better ways to make money. 17 is not that young to make such dumb decisions. Also, I don't care whether she's a virgin or not. But the fact she's became a whore makes me really sad and frustrated. |
Apr 18, 2021 9:25 PM
#35
cpislndr74 said: I must say, I'm interested in more complicated issues like this. Unfortunately, it does happen in real life. To mostly women, in worse situations. Abusive parents, or partners,, the prostitutes with low self-esteem maybe feel like they don't have other options to better their situation, and maybe even, get out of a bad one. Or, they find that these services are better and faster ways of making a lot of cash. Also, who has heard of a 17 year old making responsible and good decisions? I mean, come on! It's a time of growing and learning how the world works. Lots of dumb decisions are made during this time. I just feel bad that maybe her first time wasn't as magical or satisfying as it may have been romanticized and dreamed about, beforehand. In summary, please don't judge people for decisions they have to make. Everyone's life is different. There's no instruction book on what to do or say, in several situations. This, I think is the most appropriate way to view these kind of drama. It too easy to judge a person without knowing more context or weight behind their life. Culture and religion also have an huge influence with how an individual view sex. Unfortunately I doubt there will be any change in the slut shaming as many view prostitution as “dirty” or vulgar and many culture kinda have these imprinted. So it takes a lot to become more open minded toward these kind of topic. |
Apr 18, 2021 10:07 PM
#36
Koustubh said: I am neutral here, but I will share my opinion as an LN reader,I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. |
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Apr 18, 2021 11:18 PM
#37
PiyushSan said: Koustubh said: I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. I totally understand running away from home and I even support it. But she could've taken better measures to survive instead of prostituting herself. She could have worked part time, went to some kind of rescue place for minors, or found a better person to stay with. cpislndr74 said: I must say, I'm interested in more complicated issues like this. Unfortunately, it does happen in real life. To mostly women, in worse situations. Abusive parents, or partners,, the prostitutes with low self-esteem maybe feel like they don't have other options to better their situation, and maybe even, get out of a bad one. Or, they find that these services are better and faster ways of making a lot of cash. Also, who has heard of a 17 year old making responsible and good decisions? I mean, come on! It's a time of growing and learning how the world works. Lots of dumb decisions are made during this time. I just feel bad that maybe her first time wasn't as magical or satisfying as it may have been romanticized and dreamed about, beforehand. In summary, please don't judge people for decisions they have to make. Everyone's life is different. There's no instruction book on what to do or say, in several situations. Yes, that happens in real life and situations are often far worse. But like I said before, Sayu could have found better ways to make money. 17 is not that young to make such dumb decisions. Also, I don't care whether she's a virgin or not. But the fact she's became a whore makes me really sad and frustrated. Yes, I completely agree. Sayu should have used different methods to make a living, and not just resort to selling her body. This option should have been the very last resort, when literally no other option worked out. |
Apr 18, 2021 11:22 PM
#38
Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: I am neutral here, but I will share my opinion as an LN reader,I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. Oh, I see. If it does goes the Sayu x Yoshida route, I just hope that it will be convincing, and won't give vibes like Usagi drop lol. I know Usagi drop was kind of different, but it still gives me same kind of vibes. |
Apr 18, 2021 11:22 PM
#39
Raiser00QanT said: Just because she is a former slut, doesnt mean she is not better, she is the most worthy for Yoshida imo, because since being with Sayu, Yoshida again found his happiness he used to admit he always lived in loneliness before Sayu was present in his life, other girls could not necessarily be made Yoshida escape from his loneliness.after reading that spoilers, I want to say that, thats a weak and dumb reasons to whoring herself. This just eliminate my reason to even like her as main girl at all. like she is not even forced to do it. in Sachi iro One Room, the girl was blackmail and forced rape by her teacher, and she stood herself against him after that... her as main girl never really bother me that much because her circumstance is really strong to justify. while Sayu just..., I dont know, you guys might hate me saying this but, she is a slut. I just hope Yoshida not end up with her, and goes with Gotou or Kouhai, bcuz he deserve better. |
Apr 18, 2021 11:31 PM
#40
Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. Oh, I see. If it does goes the Sayu x Yoshida route, I just hope that it will be convincing, and won't give vibes like Usagi drop lol. I know Usagi drop was kind of different, but it still gives me same kind of vibes. I'm always confused. Where do you guys see this is like Usagi Drop or has Usagi Drop vibes?? their age gap is not too far to be considered a father and daughter relationship, Yoshida is literally not a father figure to Sayu, it's clearly different from Usagi Drop where it is shown that Daikichi is indeed a father figure to Rin. he grooming Rin for several years until she grew up. at best their relationship is considered a brother and sister. but after a few events I really couldn't think of it as just a brother and sister relationship. |
Apr 19, 2021 12:27 AM
#41
Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: I am neutral here, but I will share my opinion as an LN reader,I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. Oh, I see. If it does goes the Sayu x Yoshida route, I just hope that it will be convincing, and won't give vibes like Usagi drop lol. I know Usagi drop was kind of different, but it still gives me same kind of vibes. I'm always confused. Where do you guys see this is like Usagi Drop or has Usagi Drop vibes?? their age gap is not too far to be considered a father and daughter relationship, Yoshida is literally not a father figure to Sayu, it's clearly different from Usagi Drop where it is shown that Daikichi is indeed a father figure to Rin. he grooming Rin for several years until she grew up. at best their relationship is considered a brother and sister. but after a few events I really couldn't think of it as just a brother and sister relationship. I mean, it's not exactly similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship', but it's similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. In that sense, HigeHiro is like 'it's a brother-sister relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. I hope I didn't make it that confusing to understand lol 😂 |
Apr 19, 2021 12:57 AM
#42
Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: I am neutral here, but I will share my opinion as an LN reader,I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. Oh, I see. If it does goes the Sayu x Yoshida route, I just hope that it will be convincing, and won't give vibes like Usagi drop lol. I know Usagi drop was kind of different, but it still gives me same kind of vibes. I'm always confused. Where do you guys see this is like Usagi Drop or has Usagi Drop vibes?? their age gap is not too far to be considered a father and daughter relationship, Yoshida is literally not a father figure to Sayu, it's clearly different from Usagi Drop where it is shown that Daikichi is indeed a father figure to Rin. he grooming Rin for several years until she grew up. at best their relationship is considered a brother and sister. but after a few events I really couldn't think of it as just a brother and sister relationship. I mean, it's not exactly similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship', but it's similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. In that sense, HigeHiro is like 'it's a brother-sister relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. I hope I didn't make it that confusing to understand lol 😂 oh i see, it is quite difficult to see that happening because from the start it has a romance tag. So from the start I read LN and Manga before the anime was made, I was able to predict where their relationship would go. |
Apr 19, 2021 2:19 AM
#43
TheAntithesis said: PiyushSan said: TheAntithesis said: PiyushSan said: TheAntithesis said: PiyushSan said: hi_im_pinto said: So in highschool she used to have a good female friend close to her, one day (for reasons that are unknow to me) that friend killed herself and sayu thought that she was the reason for that to happen, and out of fear and desperation she flees to Tokyo. (there's a scene in the manga where she briefly remembers that same friend and rushed to the toilet to literally throw up) Is the reason behind the friend killing herself explained in manga or LN? Also, why did Sayu decide to take the blame on herself? Did she hurt her in some way? Her friend kills herself because Sayu denied a confession and one of the popular girls in her high school who was in love with the guy who confessed to Sayu. This caused the girls to bully Sayu’s friend to the point of suicide. Once Sayu’s connection to the girl was revealed Sayu’s mother blamed it on her. Sayu inadvertently hurt her through denying the guy. There is a lot more in regards to her family situation and I can answer in another post if you would like I got the general idea, but if you could elaborate more... Sayu is by all means an accident and her father wanted to have her aborted, and once her mother decided to keep her he left. This caused her mother to resent Sayu. This leads up to HS to where she becomes friends with an unpopular girl Yuuko. She is then confessed to by a guy whom she then rejects. One of the popular girls who has an interest in that guy is angry and vents by bullying Yuuko because she is Sayu’s friend. This causes her to kill herself. Her mother then suspects that Sayu was the one to drove her to suicide. Rereading my last post it is horrendously worded Thank you for clarifying. I'll link the reddit thread you mentioned. https://www.reddit.com/r/HigeWoSoru/comments/mnrxen/sayu_dark_past/ But I still don't get it, what made her prostitute herself? Couldn't she find some sort of part time job? What happened to the 300,000 Yen she had? She prostituted herself because she ran out of the 300,000 yen her older brother gave her and she did not want to be a burden or involve herself any further with her family. That 300,000 went to paying for a hotel for about 2 months out of the six she’s been gone. Why she did not get a job, honestly I do not know personally she comes from a rich family and work may not have been the first thought to come to her mind, she eventually does get a part time job in the LN/manga so this is more of a plot convenience for her than anything else Being underage and getting a job is probably a hell of a lot harder especially for runaways with no documentation. A lot of things in Japan requires consent and documents. You literally have to have the police measure your parking space just to buy a car. In a hierarchical society, family consent is usually needed for underage work. Thanks for the spoilers. The fact Sayu is super polite, yet is a runaway made me suspicious that her character was just superficial with no real backstory to justify her easygoing behavior so far. Most runaways are a product of dysfunctional upbringing and usually have huge character flaws as well. What is shown so far doesn't make much sense. She's too normal. Knowing the backstory i can see where she'd be somewhat normal, yet still want to flee her home/school situation. |
CirrisApr 19, 2021 2:26 AM
Apr 19, 2021 2:30 AM
#44
Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: Wookim27 said: Koustubh said: I am neutral here, but I will share my opinion as an LN reader,I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. Gotou is really hard to end up with Yoshida after what happened in the latest LN Vol. the author really developed a relationship (love) between Sayu and Yoshida, in LN there is no indication she intends to develop Yoshida's relationship with other girls, I think the last eps will adapth this arc considering they included in the OP, Sayu was picked up by her brother and his told her to return to Hokkaido. Yoshida looks resigned to hear that but on the other hand he doesn't want to lose Sayu, that's why his colleague Hashimoto scolded him and said "you should be honest about your feelings". Finally after hearing that he decided to ask permission to take 3 days off to accompany Sayu back to Hokkaido, at the same time looking for answers to anxiety about who Sayu is for him. 2 days before leaving for Hokkaido, Sayu took Yoshida on a date to a place where they could see the stars in the sky. and they went to a nearby hill to enjoy a very beautiful view of the star sky. Sayu also held hands with Yoshida, then at that time Sayu expressed her gratitude to him. because it was thanks to Yoshida that made Sayu appreciate her life more and be responsible for her own past. Hearing Sayu's expression, Yoshida's view of Sayu immediately changed because he saw that Sayu had grown into an adult woman. then a day before their departure to Hokkaido, Sayu also had time to sleep together with Yoshida, for them it was a moment that was hard to forget. because for the first time they were able to sleep in one bed. Yoshida revealed that tomorrow would be a painful farewell for him. because after Sayu leaves he will return to live in his loneliness. but tomorrow Yoshida is still on duty to supervise Sayu to Hokkaido in order to prevent any unwanted events. I would be very surprised if the author suddenly decided to turn to Gotou or other girl after he made Yoshida admit that Sayu was not just a child to him. now let's wait for Vol 5 to come out and how this story ends. this could possibly be a Happy ending, Sad ending or even a bittersweet ending. Oh, I see. If it does goes the Sayu x Yoshida route, I just hope that it will be convincing, and won't give vibes like Usagi drop lol. I know Usagi drop was kind of different, but it still gives me same kind of vibes. I'm always confused. Where do you guys see this is like Usagi Drop or has Usagi Drop vibes?? their age gap is not too far to be considered a father and daughter relationship, Yoshida is literally not a father figure to Sayu, it's clearly different from Usagi Drop where it is shown that Daikichi is indeed a father figure to Rin. he grooming Rin for several years until she grew up. at best their relationship is considered a brother and sister. but after a few events I really couldn't think of it as just a brother and sister relationship. I mean, it's not exactly similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship', but it's similar in the sense that 'it's a father-daughter relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. In that sense, HigeHiro is like 'it's a brother-sister relationship, and I want it to stay like that and not see it transform to a romantic relationship'. I hope I didn't make it that confusing to understand lol 😂 To be Honest, Sayu did try and seduce Yoshida multiple times early on. And is not a virgin going by the fact she's slept around with creeps for a place to sleep. TBH, this could almost be like a "Pretty Woman" show than "Usagi Drop". Only difference is Yoshida won't let himself get seduced into sex in the beginning, even if he secretly enjoys Sayu's touch every now and then. |
CirrisApr 19, 2021 2:35 AM
Apr 19, 2021 3:22 AM
#45
Koustubh said: Eventhough I'm Sayu Stan, I can't hate Gotou her past makes me feel sorry for her.I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. literally Gotou and Sayu are the same, Gotou has unhappy past, her school life is often ostracized by some of her school friends, so that Gotou often skipped class to avoid trouble. during truancy, Gotou often met the man she loved at school. the man was handsome enough for Gotou. finally Gotou found happiness from this man. but the happiness did not last long, the man will continue his education abroad. Gotou felt hurt that he had to part with the man she loved. Gotou is confused about her life that never found happiness. and finally Gotou decided to run away from home. because she thought, maybe there was something that made her happy outside of her life. during her escape, Gotou still couldn't find anything to make him happy. Gotou was getting tired of her run and resting beside a quiet road. At that place Gotou was visited by 3 foreign men who tried to do a threesome with Gotou. but finally Gotou was saved by an unknown man, the man was acting as Gotou's father, so that the 3 men who bothered Gotou became scared and immediately went away. the man who saved Gotou was named Suzuki. Suzuki invited Gotou to return to his house. because it would be very dangerous to let Gotou roam around at night. Gotou has been staying at Suzuki's house for a month. and it was during this time that Gotou fell in love with Suzuki. but Suzuki already has a wife and children. Gotou thought she didn't want to destroy the Suzuki family. and after a month Gotou returned to her home. that's the reason why Gotou cares about Sayu so much, because she sees herself in Sayu, it's just that Sayu is sadder because she lost her virginity while Gotou was saved by Suzuki. @PiyushSan Also for the OP you asked why Sayu didn't find a part time job?? Sayu herself really lost who she was after losing her virginity she was frustrated because of the problems that always came to her. Even Gotou in high school if not saved by Suzuki might also become a prostitute just like Sayu. You can blame her for the decisions she made. but look at it from the other side if you are in her position. |
Apr 19, 2021 3:36 AM
#46
Snackgamers557 said: Koustubh said: Eventhough I'm Sayu Stan, I can't hate Gotou her past makes me feel sorry for her.I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. literally Gotou and Sayu are the same, Gotou has unhappy past, her school life is often ostracized by some of her school friends, so that Gotou often skipped class to avoid trouble. during truancy, Gotou often met the man she loved at school. the man was handsome enough for Gotou. finally Gotou found happiness from this man. but the happiness did not last long, the man will continue his education abroad. Gotou felt hurt that he had to part with the man she loved. Gotou is confused about her life that never found happiness. and finally Gotou decided to run away from home. because she thought, maybe there was something that made her happy outside of her life. during her escape, Gotou still couldn't find anything to make him happy. Gotou was getting tired of her run and resting beside a quiet road. At that place Gotou was visited by 3 foreign men who tried to do a threesome with Gotou. but finally Gotou was saved by an unknown man, the man was acting as Gotou's father, so that the 3 men who bothered Gotou became scared and immediately went away. the man who saved Gotou was named Suzuki. Suzuki invited Gotou to return to his house. because it would be very dangerous to let Gotou roam around at night. Gotou has been staying at Suzuki's house for a month. and it was during this time that Gotou fell in love with Suzuki. but Suzuki already has a wife and children. Gotou thought she didn't want to destroy the Suzuki family. and after a month Gotou returned to her home. that's the reason why Gotou cares about Sayu so much, because she sees herself in Sayu, it's just that Sayu is sadder because she lost her virginity while Gotou was saved by Suzuki. @PiyushSan Also for the OP you asked why Sayu didn't find a part time job?? Sayu herself really lost who she was after losing her virginity she was frustrated because of the problems that always came to her. Even Gotou in high school if not saved by Suzuki might also become a prostitute just like Sayu. You can blame her for the decisions she made. but look at it from the other side if you are in her position. Hey, thanks a lot for the much needed explanation on Gotou. Gotou's behaviour which I observed in the manga finally makes sense to me now. I finally understand why she said that she gave tips on happiness to Sayu, but didn't feel happy herself. That was interesting though. One girl was saved, while the other wasn't. The dichotomy here feels quite interesting to be honest. I'll read the manga and then analyze more on this. |
Apr 19, 2021 4:20 AM
#47
@Snackgamers557 Oh, I never knew Gotou went through a similar experience as well. Now that I know Sayu's complete backstory, I can somewhat sympathize with her. Thank you for your clarification. |
Apr 19, 2021 7:15 AM
#48
Koustubh said: no problem, also sorry if some words are wrong, English is not my first language, so sometimes I have to use google translate.Snackgamers557 said: Koustubh said: I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. literally Gotou and Sayu are the same, Gotou has unhappy past, her school life is often ostracized by some of her school friends, so that Gotou often skipped class to avoid trouble. during truancy, Gotou often met the man she loved at school. the man was handsome enough for Gotou. finally Gotou found happiness from this man. but the happiness did not last long, the man will continue his education abroad. Gotou felt hurt that she had to part with the man she loved. Gotou is confused about her life that never found happiness. and finally Gotou decided to run away from home. because she thought, maybe there was something that made her happy outside of her life. during her escape, Gotou still couldn't find anything to make her happy. Gotou was getting tired of her run and resting beside a quiet road. At that place Gotou was visited by 3 foreign men who tried to do a threesome with Gotou. but finally Gotou was saved by an unknown man, the man was acting as Gotou's father, so that the 3 men who bothered Gotou became scared and immediately went away. the man who saved Gotou was named Suzuki. Suzuki invited Gotou to return to his house. because it would be very dangerous to let Gotou roam around at night. Gotou has been staying at Suzuki's house for a month. and it was during this time that Gotou fell in love with Suzuki. but Suzuki already has a wife and children. Gotou thought she didn't want to destroy the Suzuki family. and after a month Gotou returned to her home. that's the reason why Gotou cares about Sayu so much, because she sees herself in Sayu, it's just that Sayu is sadder because she lost her virginity while Gotou was saved by Suzuki. @PiyushSan Also for the OP you asked why Sayu didn't find a part time job?? Sayu herself really lost who she was after losing her virginity she was frustrated because of the problems that always came to her. Even Gotou in high school if not saved by Suzuki might also become a prostitute just like Sayu. You can blame her for the decisions she made. but look at it from the other side if you are in her position. Hey, thanks a lot for the much needed explanation on Gotou. Gotou's behaviour which I observed in the manga finally makes sense to me now. I finally understand why she said that she gave tips on happiness to Sayu, but didn't feel happy herself. That was interesting though. One girl was saved, while the other wasn't. The dichotomy here feels quite interesting to be honest. I'll read the manga and then analyze more on this. |
Apr 19, 2021 8:30 AM
#49
Snackgamers557 said: Koustubh said: no problem, also sorry if some words are wrong, English is not my first language, so sometimes I have to use google translate.Snackgamers557 said: Koustubh said: Eventhough I'm Sayu Stan, I can't hate Gotou her past makes me feel sorry for her.I have read manga till the latest chapter, and I was itching for Sayu's past so much. This thread clarifies almost all doubts for me, so thanks for that. I believe that rather than hating Sayu so much, it would be better to put the blame on those stupid girls who bullied Yuuko, and Sayu's mother. The girls who bullied Yuuko are pure shit, and one of the main reasons for Sayu's such decisions. Sayu's mother just hit the nail in the coffin when she started doubting Sayu, which forced her to take such a drastic decision as to never come home. I am still a Gotou stan, so I would like Yoshida to end up with Gotou, but such developments are screaming major red flags for their relationship lol. I just hope that if there is even a glimmer of hope, then please let Yoshida end up with Gotou. literally Gotou and Sayu are the same, Gotou has unhappy past, her school life is often ostracized by some of her school friends, so that Gotou often skipped class to avoid trouble. during truancy, Gotou often met the man she loved at school. the man was handsome enough for Gotou. finally Gotou found happiness from this man. but the happiness did not last long, the man will continue his education abroad. Gotou felt hurt that she had to part with the man she loved. Gotou is confused about her life that never found happiness. and finally Gotou decided to run away from home. because she thought, maybe there was something that made her happy outside of her life. during her escape, Gotou still couldn't find anything to make her happy. Gotou was getting tired of her run and resting beside a quiet road. At that place Gotou was visited by 3 foreign men who tried to do a threesome with Gotou. but finally Gotou was saved by an unknown man, the man was acting as Gotou's father, so that the 3 men who bothered Gotou became scared and immediately went away. the man who saved Gotou was named Suzuki. Suzuki invited Gotou to return to his house. because it would be very dangerous to let Gotou roam around at night. Gotou has been staying at Suzuki's house for a month. and it was during this time that Gotou fell in love with Suzuki. but Suzuki already has a wife and children. Gotou thought she didn't want to destroy the Suzuki family. and after a month Gotou returned to her home. that's the reason why Gotou cares about Sayu so much, because she sees herself in Sayu, it's just that Sayu is sadder because she lost her virginity while Gotou was saved by Suzuki. @PiyushSan Also for the OP you asked why Sayu didn't find a part time job?? Sayu herself really lost who she was after losing her virginity she was frustrated because of the problems that always came to her. Even Gotou in high school if not saved by Suzuki might also become a prostitute just like Sayu. You can blame her for the decisions she made. but look at it from the other side if you are in her position. Hey, thanks a lot for the much needed explanation on Gotou. Gotou's behaviour which I observed in the manga finally makes sense to me now. I finally understand why she said that she gave tips on happiness to Sayu, but didn't feel happy herself. That was interesting though. One girl was saved, while the other wasn't. The dichotomy here feels quite interesting to be honest. I'll read the manga and then analyze more on this. Haha that's fine dude. What matters is that I understood what you were trying to say. |
Apr 19, 2021 8:37 AM
#50
pinto-kun said: So in highschool she used to have a good female friend close to her, one day (for reasons that are unknow to me) that friend killed herself and sayu thought that she was the reason for that to happen, and out of fear and desperation she flees to Tokyo. (there's a scene in the manga where she briefly remembers that same friend and rushed to the toilet to literally throw up) I read the manga, but that's dark |
Apr 19, 2021 9:55 AM
#51
Wow. Also wondered about that ... and though it as something with the parents. And after episod 3 I wondered a bit more. Cause it seemd like she did not lie - when talking to Yoshida's coworker. But the explanation here given in the spoilers above ... seems pretty weak. At least - from what I have heard - the novel will end soon. (Last volume soon.) Then the plot won't drag on too long. Would feel weird to drag it on too long. This reason really is something that should be easy to solve. Or at least possible to solve in a way where the turns to her parents to get emotional support regarding this. So she could stay at home again. |
Apr 19, 2021 10:37 AM
#52
Luthandorius said: Would feel weird to drag it on too long. This reason really is something that should be easy to solve. Or at least possible to solve in a way where the turns to her parents to get emotional support regarding this. So she could stay at home again. It might sound easy to solve the problem. BUT, the hardest part is Sayu's mom absolutely hates her from the inside and Sayu doesn't have anyone to help her at that time. Her big brother working too much and he even admits by himself that he doesn't take care of Sayu much enough. And the breaking point between Sayu and her mom is when her mom blamed Sayu that Sayu is the one who kills her best friend, Yuko. The situation at her school was very bad already and no one at her home going to help her and her own mom even blamed her instead. That's why Sayu decided to runaway from home. And remember that Sayu is just a highschool student, she can't cope with all of these problems by herself. |
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Apr 19, 2021 9:13 PM
#53
Luthandorius said: Would feel weird to drag it on too long. This reason really is something that should be easy to solve. Or at least possible to solve in a way where the turns to her parents to get emotional support regarding this. So she could stay at home again. That's the hardest part, actually Sayu's mother hates her. So far, only her brother is shown to care about her, but her brother is too busy because he is the CEO of a big company. and the relationship between Sayu and her mother becomes more complicated after her mother blames Sayu for Yuuko's death. |
Apr 19, 2021 9:28 PM
#54
@Lguanlin92 I was wondering why didn't Sayu's brother support her financially every month? It would not have been a big problem for him since he is probably fairly rich. Also did he know that Sayu was prostituting herself? |
Apr 19, 2021 9:41 PM
#55
PiyushSan said: @Lguanlin92 I was wondering why didn't Sayu's brother support her financially every month? It would not have been a big problem for him since he is probably fairly rich. Also did he know that Sayu was prostituting herself? He supports Sayu financially. he gave 300,000 yen to Sayu. and the money was used by Sayu to stay at the hotel, then after the money was used up she decided not to bother her brother, that might also be her way of running away from her problem, and did her brother know she was prostituting herself?? Nah, her brother didn't know, but her brother told people to find Sayu's location and finally he got information about Sayu's whereabouts and immediately met Sayu at Yoshida's house then told her to return to Hokkaido. |
Apr 19, 2021 9:44 PM
#56
Lguanlin92 said: PiyushSan said: @Lguanlin92 I was wondering why didn't Sayu's brother support her financially every month? It would not have been a big problem for him since he is probably fairly rich. Also did he know that Sayu was prostituting herself? He supports Sayu financially. he gave 300,000 yen to Sayu. and the money was used by Sayu to stay at the hotel, then after the money was used up she decided not to bother her brother, that might also be her way of running away from her problem, and did her brother know she was prostituting herself?? Nah, her brother didn't know, but her brother told people to find Sayu's location and finally he got information about Sayu's whereabouts and immediately met Sayu at Yoshida's house then told her to return to Hokkaido. That makes me a little mad at Sayu for not accepting her brother's help. |
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Apr 19, 2021 9:50 PM
#57
PiyushSan said: Lguanlin92 said: PiyushSan said: @Lguanlin92 I was wondering why didn't Sayu's brother support her financially every month? It would not have been a big problem for him since he is probably fairly rich. Also did he know that Sayu was prostituting herself? He supports Sayu financially. he gave 300,000 yen to Sayu. and the money was used by Sayu to stay at the hotel, then after the money was used up she decided not to bother her brother, that might also be her way of running away from her problem, and did her brother know she was prostituting herself?? Nah, her brother didn't know, but her brother told people to find Sayu's location and finally he got information about Sayu's whereabouts and immediately met Sayu at Yoshida's house then told her to return to Hokkaido. It makes me a little mad at Sayu for not accepting her brother's help. Yeah I know she took the wrong decision, but remember that Sayu is just a highschool student, she can't cope with all of these problems by herself. but when she needed it she didn't get it from her mother. She really just needed parental love that she never got. |
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Apr 19, 2021 10:19 PM
#58
Sayu is a girl who is mentaly unstable, with trauma and who hates herself for what happened to her friend. Its not that Sayu is a slut, more like the girl is just broken. She didnt just decide one day to whore herself out, there were things that drove her to do that. Also, Gotou is toxic as fuck. MC deserves better than that. Kouhai is a good girl though |
Apr 22, 2021 6:33 PM
#59
Lguanlin92 said: PiyushSan said: Lguanlin92 said: PiyushSan said: @Lguanlin92 I was wondering why didn't Sayu's brother support her financially every month? It would not have been a big problem for him since he is probably fairly rich. Also did he know that Sayu was prostituting herself? He supports Sayu financially. he gave 300,000 yen to Sayu. and the money was used by Sayu to stay at the hotel, then after the money was used up she decided not to bother her brother, that might also be her way of running away from her problem, and did her brother know she was prostituting herself?? Nah, her brother didn't know, but her brother told people to find Sayu's location and finally he got information about Sayu's whereabouts and immediately met Sayu at Yoshida's house then told her to return to Hokkaido. It makes me a little mad at Sayu for not accepting her brother's help. Yeah I know she took the wrong decision, but remember that Sayu is just a highschool student, she can't cope with all of these problems by herself. but when she needed it she didn't get it from her mother. She really just needed parental love that she never got. I think she can't keep borrowing her brother. Since her location would be known to him and would drag her home. Her brother company is by extension her father company. She really hates it having something that relate to her shitty parents. Also Sayu has a high value of self-sacrifice(in a wrong way), so she also doesn't want to bother her brother too much. |
Apr 26, 2021 2:22 PM
#60
Her mother must be blamed for everything that happened to Sayu, if her mother would sit together and listen to Sayu maybe Sayu would never be like this, also other characters who deserve to be cursed are the girls who bullied Yuuko they are not human, and also middle-aged bastards who take advantage by tricking plain high school girls who are hit by a lot of trouble. |
Apr 27, 2021 6:21 AM
#61
Was Sayu raped? Has any guy ever raped or tried to do so? |
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Apr 27, 2021 11:32 AM
#62
@Raiser00QanT you sir have spoken the right thing.....I get why people sympathise with her....but she is just slutting around with a lame ass reason ... And then later admitting that sex and all was good .. that's just an icing on the cake . |
May 26, 2021 10:30 PM
#63
I think the first guy tried to do it or atleast made advancement toward sayu but I think sayu accepted that |
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May 26, 2021 10:30 PM
#64
I think the first guy tried to do it or atleast made advancement toward sayu but I think sayu accepted that |
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May 26, 2021 10:46 PM
#65
Damn, after reading the spoiler I think. Nothing wrong in being a slut to earn some cash. Desperation to survive can force you to do anything. But now I think we all can agree that she is no complicated character, just a slut who wanted to survive on her own. My guy yoshida is putting himself at risk for such a useless reason |
May 26, 2021 11:21 PM
#66
Thanks to all for the great info to understand better this series. I feel glad for Gotou and thankfull to Suzuki. I feel bad for Sayu, also I think she was pretty stupid for doing what she did but as a kinda rich teenager, I understand how she wanted to be able to live by her owns. I hate Mishima, she pisses me off a lot, she says good stuff but not in a good way, maybe because I always think on the best way to say what I want to say, expecting how the person Im talking will react Hope ma boy Yoshida can get a happy ending |
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May 27, 2021 3:56 AM
#67
Sayu is also dumb enough to lead a blackmailer to her - and Yoshida's - house, which put Yoshida in danger and was guaranteed to end badly anyway. She could at least tell Yoshida there was a guy at work who knew her just in case, and then he would probably knew to forbid her to bring him over when she asked. She's really not the sharpest tool in the shed, even for teenager. Compare her to Asami. I don't liker Gotou backstory much, not because I dislike Gotou but because it seems very redundant. It's like Goutou is a mish-mash of Sayu and Sayu's friend |
May 31, 2021 9:03 AM
#68
May 31, 2021 9:07 AM
#69
After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
May 31, 2021 9:24 AM
#70
PiyushSan said: well they didn't miss anything about her past, it was her decision not to go home because she was not strong enough with her mother's restraint, especially her mother who started accusing Sayu as the cause of Yuuko's death, she wants to feel being wanted by others, being appreciated by other, and by having sex with those bastard, she achieve that feeling. It's more like she sees herself in third person view, that's why she doesn't hesitate to use her body as bargain tools since she also hates her looks. that's the reason why Yoshida wanted to fix Sayu but in the end living together seemed to make Yoshida develop feelings for Sayu and vice Versa.After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
May 31, 2021 9:53 AM
#71
Yukino_chan99 said: Oh, I see. Thanks for providing an explanation.PiyushSan said: well they didn't miss anything about her past, it was her decision not to go home because she was not strong enough with her mother's restraint, especially her mother who started accusing Sayu as the cause of Yuuko's death, she wants to feel being wanted by others, being appreciated by other, and by having sex with those bastard, she achieve that feeling. It's more like she sees herself in third person view, that's why she doesn't hesitate to use her body as bargain tools since she also hates her looks. that's the reason why Yoshida wanted to fix Sayu but in the end living together seemed to make Yoshida develop feelings for Sayu and vice Versa.After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
May 31, 2021 4:31 PM
#72
PiyushSan said: they didn't missing anything but the studio cut too much content so the impact was lost. If you check the LN, the feeling that this part conveys is extremely different.After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
May 31, 2021 7:26 PM
#73
Takumi_usui77 said: I was wondering the same thing. According to the LN readers Sayu's backstory was really sad. I guess the studio wanted to finish the show it one season. But it is quite unfortunate that they decided to cut out content.PiyushSan said: they didn't missing anything but the studio cut too much content so the impact was lost. If you check the LN, the feeling that this part conveys is extremely different.After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
May 31, 2021 9:40 PM
#74
PiyushSan said: The studio really wants to adapt the whole LN in one season even since they removed Kanda Ao (Yoshida ex Girlfriend) in the anime because she didn't really affect the storyline, but for Sayu's past part they made a fault so the impact was lost, so we really didn't feel sad for Sayu's past, this is different from reading LN. but indeed the decision that Sayu made to become a tool for all those bastards was stupid but on the other hand we feel how depressed she is.Takumi_usui77 said: I was wondering the same thing. According to the LN readers Sayu's backstory was really sad. I guess the studio wanted to finish the show it one season. But it is quite unfortunate that they decided to cut out content.PiyushSan said: After watching today's episode I'm starting to think that Sayu's just dumb. Can LN readers tell if anything was left out in the episode. |
Jun 3, 2021 2:38 AM
#75
Raiser00QanT said: yes you are right bro I agree with you👍.after reading that spoilers, I want to say that, thats a weak and dumb reasons to whoring herself. This just eliminate my reason to even like her as main girl at all. like she is not even forced to do it. in Sachi iro One Room, the girl was blackmail and forced rape by her teacher, and she stood herself against him after that... her as main girl never really bother me that much because her circumstance is really strong to justify. while Sayu just..., I dont know, you guys might hate me saying this but, she is a slut. I just hope Yoshida not end up with her, and goes with Gotou or Kouhai, bcuz he deserve better. |
Jun 3, 2021 3:26 AM
#76
RebelPandaSFan said: yeah bro you are right 😂😂. She is spoil child of a rich family . So she don't want to do a part-time job . And I laugh so hard when I found the reason of her escape from home. Instant of escape she would have face the reality and explain everything to media it would solved all . And also she is not a child her age is 17 she know all things about society . And one more thing her brother also give her 300000 yen escape time .and what she did she just enjoy it in hotel for 2 months . In those 2 months if she want she can found a job for her place and food . But what she did she just want to a slut for easy money without any struggle 😂😂. What a sad story bro 😂😂😂 . Now I am crying 😂😂😂so hard 😂😂😂Damn, after reading the spoiler I think. Nothing wrong in being a slut to earn some cash. Desperation to survive can force you to do anything. But now I think we all can agree that she is no complicated character, just a slut who wanted to survive on her own. My guy yoshida is putting himself at risk for such a useless reason |
Jun 3, 2021 3:38 AM
#77
no bro she accepted it because he was so frustrated and want to have sex so she did it . And also no one raped her she did it because she want it . Because it's a easy way too get food and home . What a useless girl instant of struggle by having a part-time job she choose bed . She is a spoil child of rich family so why did she want a job . just because it's was easy to earn in bed for her so she did it and after some months she feel dumb regret for it . |
Leader001Jun 3, 2021 3:45 AM
Jun 7, 2021 7:20 AM
#78
So recently, i have read a few questionable spoilers about Sayu being sexual harassed by her father. I finished the WN 2 years ago and i dont rememeber there was such detail. It might be because the WN was translated from Jap to Eng so i might have missed something. So anyone have finished the WN, please help me to confirm this information. From what i recall, there was no such detail |
Jun 8, 2021 4:40 AM
#79
She was not abused by her father, her father left his wife when she was pregnant with Sayu |
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