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Nov 20, 2016 10:39 AM

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Would you be willing to vote duos?
Nov 20, 2016 10:40 AM

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Fo said:
Vote: Duos tbh
It isn't likely that he happens to have the exact same role as flipped scum and also be an arson who can never seem to prove that he's an arson.


Did you even read grrr's role description? He's literally a copy/paste of Cerberus. The only difference is that I have Arsoning abilities and he doesn't, because why would he need it when he has Mafia kills?
Nov 20, 2016 10:42 AM

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Okay but the point you seem to be missing here is; you haven't shown me any bodies yet.
Nov 20, 2016 10:44 AM

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Fo said:
Okay but the point you seem to be missing here is; you haven't shown me any bodies yet.


You won't be seeing some either anytime soon.
Nov 20, 2016 10:50 AM

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N1 I chose to block Rinto, and the message there was that I failed to surround the target. N1 was also the phase that PentaFlare blocked me. This phase it's worded differently though.
Nov 20, 2016 10:53 AM

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Duos said:
N1 I chose to block Rinto, and the message there was that I failed to surround the target. N1 was also the phase that PentaFlare blocked me. This phase it's worded differently though.


It doesn't make sense for Mafia to have two role blockers. I don't think PentaFlare is the remaining Mafia.
Nov 20, 2016 10:53 AM

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Fo said:
Would you be willing to vote duos?

Hmm.. I don't suspect him as much as the others on my list, tbh.
I'm not opposed to lynching him, but I'd rather pressure people who haven't claimed yet.

What is it that makes you scum-read Duos more than Phraze or Jack?
Because I'm leaning more towards him being town, based on how Rinto voted during D1.

Nov 20, 2016 10:53 AM

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Duos said:
N1 I chose to block Rinto, and the message there was that I failed to surround the target. N1 was also the phase that PentaFlare blocked me. This phase it's worded differently though.


You are an arson and a RB that is a bit OP tbh.
Nov 20, 2016 10:54 AM

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Duos said:
Fo said:
Vote: Duos tbh
It isn't likely that he happens to have the exact same role as flipped scum and also be an arson who can never seem to prove that he's an arson.


Did you even read grrr's role description? He's literally a copy/paste of Cerberus. The only difference is that I have Arsoning abilities and he doesn't, because why would he need it when he has Mafia kills?


Mafia haveing multi kills is not that strange in my exp they are normally delayed kills to do with poison or something else though or are 1 shot limited ablities.
Nov 20, 2016 10:55 AM

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Jackrito said:
Duos said:
N1 I chose to block Rinto, and the message there was that I failed to surround the target. N1 was also the phase that PentaFlare blocked me. This phase it's worded differently though.


You are an arson and a RB that is a bit OP tbh.


Not really. I can't collect cards and the Arsoning comes with a catch.
Nov 20, 2016 10:59 AM

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I should really re-read the last couple of pages.. I'll be back in an hour or so.

Nov 20, 2016 11:00 AM

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Jackrito said:
Duos said:


Did you even read grrr's role description? He's literally a copy/paste of Cerberus. The only difference is that I have Arsoning abilities and he doesn't, because why would he need it when he has Mafia kills?


Mafia haveing multi kills is not that strange in my exp they are normally delayed kills to do with poison or something else though or are 1 shot limited ablities.


It is strange if you take into consideration the other abilities mentioned and not just the killing portion. Generalizing a special scenario isn't good.
Nov 20, 2016 11:02 AM

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Jackrito said:
Duos said:
N1 I chose to block Rinto, and the message there was that I failed to surround the target. N1 was also the phase that PentaFlare blocked me. This phase it's worded differently though.


You are an arson and a RB that is a bit OP tbh.
Have you seen some of the cards in this game. Some are crazy powerful and some are not so much...

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Nov 20, 2016 11:08 AM

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Suzune-chan said:
Jackrito said:


You are an arson and a RB that is a bit OP tbh.
Have you seen some of the cards in this game. Some are crazy powerful and some are not so much...


He has got both of these without cards though and look at scumteam so far would you say they are powerful, the last one would have to be pretty OP to equal some of the roles of town . I still think they are town based off thier role makes sense when compared to grr and if they knew cerbaus was not in play it would make more sense for grr to claim it since he has the same ablities, but it still bothers me a bit.
Nov 20, 2016 11:10 AM

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coromandel said:
When Rinto claimed, I realized that he wasn't Nadeshiko Kinomoto. I can't tell you who is, though.
So circling back to this; if you don't know who nadeshiko is then how did you know it wasn't rinto?
Nov 20, 2016 11:16 AM

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Also,

Vote: Jackrito
Nov 20, 2016 11:21 AM

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I'm sick of Karote going under the radar and him been confirmed only by a fortune card that I have no belief in, since I can't see a outside influence giving confirmation so easily, espically since I'm getting nothing off mine fortune's. His ablity just seems really scummy imo and his lack of input this game is not helpful to anyone.

Vote Karote
Nov 20, 2016 11:31 AM

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Vote: Phraze

It's either Jackrito or Phraze. It has to be. There is no way that it's not.
Nov 20, 2016 11:31 AM

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Vote Count 4.1

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Phraze coromandel, Duos
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Nov 20, 2016 11:36 AM

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Duos said:
Vote: Phraze

It's either Jackrito or Phraze. It has to be. There is no way that it's not.


I really doubt it is Phraze, they would have to be the best actor ever to pull off a confused townie this good.
Nov 20, 2016 11:44 AM

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Jackrito said:
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Vote: Phraze

It's either Jackrito or Phraze. It has to be. There is no way that it's not.


I really doubt it is Phraze, they would have to be the best actor ever to pull off a confused townie this good.


Phraze is weird, but Zymf was also weird. It'd be fine if one of both were weird but two is too much.
Nov 20, 2016 12:07 PM

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Jackrito said:
Suzune-chan said:
Have you seen some of the cards in this game. Some are crazy powerful and some are not so much...


He has got both of these without cards though and look at scumteam so far would you say they are powerful, the last one would have to be pretty OP to equal some of the roles of town . I still think they are town based off thier role makes sense when compared to grr and if they knew cerbaus was not in play it would make more sense for grr to claim it since he has the same ablities, but it still bothers me a bit.
yes but are they both powers of the person. How can you be sure? Someone has to be sealing those sun cards.

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Nov 20, 2016 12:11 PM

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coromandel said:
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vote: coro

I'll explain my vote later

Nobody used their abilities during the night? :/

Reason?

And which character did you claim? (*If* you claimed)



To be honest PoE...

Ruu said:
Town:
Me
Karote - confirmed by my fortune card
Duos - believable claim
Jack - watery card
Fo - confirmed by pudding ( I don't remember who got it thou)
Doughkey - confirmed claim by her card "the song" (Suzune told us)
Suzune ( 3rd party but she likes us so town xD)
Penta - cop confirmed by Shana *
Shana - confirmed by penta *

possible scum: **
coro
Phraze

* only one scum left so now I believe they are telling the truth.

** I think coro is more likely to be scum but I can't remember if Phraze claimed or not so for now I can't say she is town.


I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/
I think that the "real" Nadeshiko should claimed now to prove your claim.
You can't tell us who she/he is because that would be bad for you?
Nov 20, 2016 12:14 PM

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Ruu said:
I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.
Nov 20, 2016 12:22 PM

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Duos said:
Ruu said:
I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.


not really, you said you had an active ability but you haven't been able to prove it
Nov 20, 2016 12:23 PM

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Ruu said:
Duos said:


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.


not really, you said you had an active ability but you haven't been able to prove it


I'm not going to be able to prove it for a while either. Whoever messed with my actions last night screwed me up good. Figure that out first and then talk to me.
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Duos said:
Ruu said:
I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.
All it means is that you also noticed the pattern of moon and sun cards.

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Nov 20, 2016 12:37 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Duos said:


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.
All it means is that you also noticed the pattern of moon and sun cards.


+1 I can also tell that and I don't have the ability.
Nov 20, 2016 12:42 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Duos said:


Proving myself is as simple as Suzune telling you if today's card is under the Sun's jurisdiction or the Moon's.
All it means is that you also noticed the pattern of moon and sun cards.


Exactly. Spinnel Sun is the counterpart of Cerberus, and we have the same abilities. Me being able to tell when there are Sun cards in play is a method to confirm my role.
Nov 20, 2016 12:43 PM

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Ruu said:
Suzune-chan said:
All it means is that you also noticed the pattern of moon and sun cards.


+1 I can also tell that and I don't have the ability.


You do not get messages informing you about the cards. You guessing is one thing, but having the information at hand is another.
Nov 20, 2016 12:47 PM

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ummmm..
Jack said I never cc'd Duos when Shin said so, that could be why he died.
Jack also gave attention to reiynii as scum, which caused a vig to shoot her.
both deaths on N2 lead back to him.
(ignoring advanced mechanics, Shin was the only one who said anything about cc'ing Duos and Jack replied to that)

D3 I said reiynii was a vig shot. vig confirmed it
there starts the salty exchange with he who was apparently involved in both deaths. Jack clearly had plenty of towncred and 'framed' reiynii for lynch, so if anything, he was mafia's best target on N2, with reiynii for D3 lynch. for him to survive now, it's what gave him away.

Jackrito said:
I really doubt it is Phraze, they would have to be the best actor ever to pull off a confused townie this good.
I won't be confused if Duos just kept quiet about something worth cc'ing him for. in fact, that was the point everything turned crazy when mafia triggered me :o
I never would've cc'd if Duos just kept quiet, but he alrdy gave himself away by claiming Kero lol... but still ur scumplay needs work. 2 deaths on 1 phase lead back to u >.>
on 2nd thought, I have a counter theory to myself that if Duos can be fake then all the claims so far are fake, which means only those who didn't claim are the real ones? x.x but if we exclude this stupid game mechanic, and if ur an honest scum player, u still used the doublekill technique. either way, claim or no claim, it leads back to u =.=

Vote: Jackrito
Nov 20, 2016 12:52 PM

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@PentaFlare
Your invest result from last night?

Fo said:
coromandel said:
When Rinto claimed, I realized that he wasn't Nadeshiko Kinomoto. I can't tell you who is, though.
So circling back to this; if you don't know who nadeshiko is then how did you know it wasn't rinto?

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I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/
I think that the "real" Nadeshiko should claimed now to prove your claim.
You can't tell us who she/he is because that would be bad for you?


Maybe Nadeshiko can't talk? >.>

I'm not allowed to share what exactly I know, because it'd have a negative effect on me. But I will say that I *may have* lied a bit when I called out Rinto. I did not ivnestigate a living player, or anything like that.

It's possible that Rinto thought he could claim Nadeshiko without there being a counter-claim.
And you may be right about Duos, idk. I still need to back-read.


/edit: just edited fo's quote.
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Nov 20, 2016 12:58 PM

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omg for Coro to vote for me.. and when I narrowed it down to Jack too. that totally means he's lying. since if he was town then my reasoning will make sense.
which means Coro is scum and setting me up =3= Grrr was the one who started me talking, followed by Jack lol.. I have plenty of counter theories to not vote for Jack lol, none for u tho

Unvote. Vote: coromandel
Nov 20, 2016 12:58 PM

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Phraze said:
ummmm..
Jack said I never cc'd Duos when Shin said so, that could be why he died.
Jack also gave attention to reiynii as scum, which caused a vig to shoot her.
both deaths on N2 lead back to him.
(ignoring advanced mechanics, Shin was the only one who said anything about cc'ing Duos and Jack replied to that)

D3 I said reiynii was a vig shot. vig confirmed it
there starts the salty exchange with he who was apparently involved in both deaths. Jack clearly had plenty of towncred and 'framed' reiynii for lynch, so if anything, he was mafia's best target on N2, with reiynii for D3 lynch. for him to survive now, it's what gave him away.

Jackrito said:
I really doubt it is Phraze, they would have to be the best actor ever to pull off a confused townie this good.
I won't be confused if Duos just kept quiet about something worth cc'ing him for. in fact, that was the point everything turned crazy when mafia triggered me :o
I never would've cc'd if Duos just kept quiet, but he alrdy gave himself away by claiming Kero lol... but still ur scumplay needs work. 2 deaths on 1 phase lead back to u >.>
on 2nd thought, I have a counter theory to myself that if Duos can be fake then all the claims so far are fake, which means only those who didn't claim are the real ones? x.x but if we exclude this stupid game mechanic, and if ur an honest scum player, u still used the doublekill technique. either way, claim or no claim, it leads back to u =.=

Vote: Jackrito


You never CC Duos to Counterclaim you both need to have the same role, why would Shin saying you did make me want to kill him, he said himself he was skimreading, they is no logic there in me killing him.

I can't believe you are still blaming me for Reynii death the viglante, Doki and Fo have all said they were a bigger cause, Also even if somehow both of these are true it would not mean I'm scum

I have no idea where this towncred I had on night 2 has came from I was firmly in the POE and always have been because I refuse to claim and keep doubting others claims. As I told you 3 times as well because of people suspecting me I'm not a good target, the people who are basically confirmed and have good roles are. You can not use me been alive as a valid reason.

I'm sick of explaining these points to you and how they make no sense. By all this logic Fo is just as likely scum as me.
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coromandel said:
@PentaFlare
Your invest result from last night?


Ruu said:
I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/
I think that the "real" Nadeshiko should claimed now to prove your claim.
You can't tell us who she/he is because that would be bad for you?


Maybe Nadeshiko can't talk? >.>

I'm not allowed to share what exactly I know, because it'd have a negative effect on me. But I will say that I *may have* lied a bit when I called out Rinto. I did not ivnestigate a living player, or anything like that.

It's possible that Rinto thought he could claim Nadeshiko without there being a counter-claim.
And you may be right about Duos, idk. I still need to back-read.


oh! I get it, I think... what do you think about Phraze? did she claim?

for now... unvote
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coromandel said:
@PentaFlare
Your invest result from last night?

Fo said:
So circling back to this; if you don't know who nadeshiko is then how did you know it wasn't rinto?

Ruu said:
I'm Mihara Chiharu btw. Now that you claimed Idk what to think. Also Duos never proved that he was Kero right? so maybe he got lucky and claimed an unused role? :/
I think that the "real" Nadeshiko should claimed now to prove your claim.
You can't tell us who she/he is because that would be bad for you?


Maybe Nadeshiko can't talk? >.>

I'm not allowed to share what exactly I know, because it'd have a negative effect on me. But I will say that I *may have* lied a bit when I called out Rinto. I did not ivnestigate a living player, or anything like that.

It's possible that Rinto thought he could claim Nadeshiko without there being a counter-claim.
And you may be right about Duos, idk. I still need to back-read.


/edit: just edited fo's quote.


If Nadeshiko can''t talk who could they be out of people left because everyone is active but Karote and they claimed.
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omg for Coro to vote for me.. and when I narrowed it down to Jack too. that totally means he's lying. since if he was town then my reasoning will make sense.
which means Coro is scum and setting me up =3= Grrr was the one who started me talking, followed by Jack lol.. I have plenty of counter theories to not vote for Jack lol, none for u tho

Unvote. Vote: coromandel

I find it really hard to follow your thought process. Here, and in your D3 posts too.

Why exactly do you think I'm scum?

Nov 20, 2016 1:04 PM

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and again...if this is Coro who's setting me up, then this says Penta is lying. and Duos is real @.@
Nov 20, 2016 1:06 PM

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@Jackrito
my mind is good at playing tricks on me ;3;

[edit: lol this game is funny xDD]
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Who would kill Doughkey?
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Jackrito said:
coromandel said:
@PentaFlare
Your invest result from last night?




Maybe Nadeshiko can't talk? >.>

I'm not allowed to share what exactly I know, because it'd have a negative effect on me. But I will say that I *may have* lied a bit when I called out Rinto. I did not ivnestigate a living player, or anything like that.

It's possible that Rinto thought he could claim Nadeshiko without there being a counter-claim.
And you may be right about Duos, idk. I still need to back-read.


/edit: just edited fo's quote.


If Nadeshiko can''t talk who could they be out of people left because everyone is active but Karote and they claimed.

There's a hint in my other post. I can't tell you more than that.


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and again...if this is Coro who's setting me up, then this says Penta is lying. and Duos is real @.@

What do you mean?

If I was setting you up, Penta wouldn't have a reason to lie about anything. Because there's only 1 scum player left.

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I'm sick of Karote going under the radar and him been confirmed only by a fortune card that I have no belief in, since I can't see a outside influence giving confirmation so easily, espically since I'm getting nothing off mine fortune's. His ablity just seems really scummy imo and his lack of input this game is not helpful to anyone.

Vote Karote


I have another ability which I didn't claim yet.
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Karote said:
Jackrito said:
I'm sick of Karote going under the radar and him been confirmed only by a fortune card that I have no belief in, since I can't see a outside influence giving confirmation so easily, espically since I'm getting nothing off mine fortune's. His ablity just seems really scummy imo and his lack of input this game is not helpful to anyone.

Vote Karote


I have another ability which I didn't claim yet.


I like you.
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@coromandel omg another headache coming. painkillers plz

1. u still vote for me when I outruled u in my deduction. my calculations makes sense to any townie. if u were town and outruled in my calculations, then u would think I have a point and vote Jack. for u to disbelieve/vote me(and yey even Jack/Doki can't argue with me) that means u are lying. [if there's one thing I can pull off as scum or town, it's how convincing my theories can be lmao]

2. besides u and Jack, no one can pull off such a confusing thing about sun cards. if that ability is real, grrr was prob a sacrifice to lynch Duos.

3. my fortune mentioned Jack and Doki protected Penta on N2, that was the confusing part.

this means it's either Jack/Duos or Coro/Penta who is scum. I choose to believe the former x.x
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Karote said:
Jackrito said:
I'm sick of Karote going under the radar and him been confirmed only by a fortune card that I have no belief in, since I can't see a outside influence giving confirmation so easily, espically since I'm getting nothing off mine fortune's. His ablity just seems really scummy imo and his lack of input this game is not helpful to anyone.

Vote Karote


I have another ability which I didn't claim yet.


Karote is confirmed by me, our roles are "related", we are both town. You were also confirmed with a card btw :/

@Karote have you use your ability?
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vote: Phraze

your theories don't make sense, my head hurts after reading all your post @__@ xD
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Phraze said:
@coromandel omg another headache coming. painkillers plz

1. u still vote for me when I outruled u in my deduction. my calculations makes sense to any townie. if u were town and outruled in my calculations, then u would think I have a point and vote Jack. for u to disbelieve/vote me(and yey even Jack/Doki can't argue with me) that means u are lying. [if there's one thing I can pull off as scum or town, it's how convincing my theories can be lmao]

2. besides u and Jack, no one can pull off such a confusing thing about sun cards. if that ability is real, grrr was prob a sacrifice to lynch Duos.

3. my fortune mentioned Jack and Doki protected Penta on N2, that was the confusing part.

this means it's either Jack/Duos or Coro/Penta who is scum. I choose to believe the former x.x


1. I don't just blindly believe people's deductions. Especially not when they're on my PoE scum list.
I also suspect Jack, though.

2. I.. don't understand. What is the "confusing thing about sun cards" you're talking about? And how was grrr a sacrifice?

3. hm.


@Jackrito
What do you have to say about #3 here - did you target Penta during N2?

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coromandel said:
Phraze said:
@coromandel omg another headache coming. painkillers plz

1. u still vote for me when I outruled u in my deduction. my calculations makes sense to any townie. if u were town and outruled in my calculations, then u would think I have a point and vote Jack. for u to disbelieve/vote me(and yey even Jack/Doki can't argue with me) that means u are lying. [if there's one thing I can pull off as scum or town, it's how convincing my theories can be lmao]

2. besides u and Jack, no one can pull off such a confusing thing about sun cards. if that ability is real, grrr was prob a sacrifice to lynch Duos.

3. my fortune mentioned Jack and Doki protected Penta on N2, that was the confusing part.

this means it's either Jack/Duos or Coro/Penta who is scum. I choose to believe the former x.x


1. I don't just blindly believe people's deductions. Especially not when they're on my PoE scum list.
I also suspect Jack, though.

2. I.. don't understand. What is the "confusing thing about sun cards" you're talking about? And how was grrr a sacrifice?

3. hm.


@Jackrito
What do you have to say about #3 here - did you target Penta during N2?


I did not target anyone on night 2, also did not Penta not claim he could make anyone who visited him vanilla so why would Doki go as well.
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Phraze said:

3. my fortune mentioned Jack and Doki protected Penta on N2, that was the confusing part.
Well think about the cards that Coro claimed to have that I stole. I think that might provide insight into this problem.

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Nov 20, 2016 1:38 PM

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Jackrito said:
coromandel said:


1. I don't just blindly believe people's deductions. Especially not when they're on my PoE scum list.
I also suspect Jack, though.

2. I.. don't understand. What is the "confusing thing about sun cards" you're talking about? And how was grrr a sacrifice?

3. hm.


@Jackrito
What do you have to say about #3 here - did you target Penta during N2?


I did not target anyone on night 2, also did not Penta not claim he could make anyone who visited him vanilla so why would Doki go as well.
No he said that was his fortune not his ability.

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