[Oshi No Ko]
Reply to squeekeez
Zarutaku said:
I'm just gonna add that "Ruby" already asked "Aqua" to marry him, in their previous lives at the beginning of the 1st episode.
squeekeez said:
yeah I missed where you said manga, so could you tell me the chapter where Ruby supposedly said this?
yeah I missed where you said manga, so could you tell me the chapter where Ruby supposedly said this?
I'm just gonna add that "Ruby" already asked "Aqua" to marry him, in their previous lives at the beginning of the 1st episode.
That was just regular kid stuff, kids say shit like that all the time
| @squeekeez I hope you don't really think that the author implemented this just to fill the story with some random kid banter, this was intended foreshadowing so that the audience would know what to expect from the start: Ruby x Aqua romance at some point. |
| Seems I was wrong, it's TheSuave who burned the topic to a crisp xD |
Reply to SigmaAmarooX
DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX What more arguments do you want?
You claimed that never meeting your siblings makes them strangers, do you know how healthy functional family ties work? Do you know how fast the bond between siblings can be rekindled as if it has been there forever?
The cases you say are "not the same" are cases in which one or both siblings are mentally unwell
@SigmaAmarooX What more arguments do you want?
You claimed that never meeting your siblings makes them strangers, do you know how healthy functional family ties work? Do you know how fast the bond between siblings can be rekindled as if it has been there forever?
The cases you say are "not the same" are cases in which one or both siblings are mentally unwell
at this point I'm starting to believe you're trolling. You started talking about relationships on a spiritual level lmao. Humans are still animals, we're not any special. If you bring two dogs together who never met each other but are actually blood related they won't know it and they'll never find out, assuming that humans are the only species who can hold complex conversations.
Imagine you form a relationship with someone and find out 3 months in that she's your cousin or sister, what are you gonna do about it?
| @SigmaAmarooX And there it is, denial, what i'm saying is not reality it's on a "spiritual level" SigmaAmarooX said: Imagine you form a relationship with someone and find out 3 months in that she's your cousin or sister, what are you gonna do about it? What would i do you ask? For one it wouldn't be a sister cuz i'm not a lesbian For 2, i'm not attracted to anyone who looks remotely like me or my family members But for the sake of the example, let's assume someone closely related who got all their looks from the side of the family i've never seen and nothing whatsoever raises my suspiciones and shit happens, my reaction to finding out we're related would be to vomit |
Reply to SigmaAmarooX
I don't know where you got the denial part from but alright.
I also don't know how you'd not be attracted to someone that has similar features to you because that's basically saying youre not attracted to humans altogether, since talking objectively people are hard to tell apart. It's the subtle changes in our appearance that make us who we are: Nose form, eyebrows, hair, mouth, face shape, etc.
Anyways, there you go, exactly what I thought you would say: You'd be disgusted. Now go search up social constructionism because that's exactly what we're witnessing here. You're acting on societal beliefs.
It seems that we're going in circles tho so I will actually drop the mic this time and will give you the upper hand by letting you be the last one to reply.
I also don't know how you'd not be attracted to someone that has similar features to you because that's basically saying youre not attracted to humans altogether, since talking objectively people are hard to tell apart. It's the subtle changes in our appearance that make us who we are: Nose form, eyebrows, hair, mouth, face shape, etc.
Anyways, there you go, exactly what I thought you would say: You'd be disgusted. Now go search up social constructionism because that's exactly what we're witnessing here. You're acting on societal beliefs.
It seems that we're going in circles tho so I will actually drop the mic this time and will give you the upper hand by letting you be the last one to reply.
| @SigmaAmarooX Last i checked humans aren't all clones of eachother... |
DigiCat said: Deformaties might not be as common, the first symptom to arise from incest is lowered immune system, do you think it's ethical to knowingly concieve a child who will have a higher chance of developing health problems? Does that mean an unrelated couple with one or both having a weak immune system and they conceive a child, that's also unethical because it's more likely to inherit a weak immune system? And should such couples also be forbidden from procreating? |
Reply to Guilmon1
@DigiCat the movie makes 0 sense without anime context, there are 3 incest related subplots in the show and they are ment to show unhealthy attachment and power dynamics, I admit the twins you talked about are the characters I understood the least but their relationship is treated as toxic and obsessive, the other two relationships
the movie is great but without context nothing makes sense
| @Guilmon1 Got it, thanks for the context, will def give Utena series a try :) |
squeekeez said: Zarutaku said: I'm just gonna add that "Ruby" already asked "Aqua" to marry him, in their previous lives at the beginning of the 1st episode. That was just regular kid stuff, kids say shit like that all the time If you didn't understood from this, that a relationship between Aqua and Ruby going to be in the story, then it's just a reading comprehension matter. |
CielordAug 6, 2024 9:26 PM
squeekeez said: Cielord said: If you didn't understood from this, that a relationship between Aqua and Ruby going to be in the story, then it's just a reading comprehension. I didn't know about the reincarnation thing when I saw that scene and I forgot about it later, that's not reading comprehension that's forgetting You said it was a regular kid staff, that's not understanding the significance of it. And sure, if you just forgot, then now you remember. |
squeekeez said: Cielord said: You said it was a regular kid staff, that's not understanding the significance of it. And sure, if you just forgot, then now you remember. I didn't think it'd be so significant, I'm not expecting incest going in so I wouldn't think "is that incest foreshadowing?" There wouldn't be any reason to write it in, if it wasn't going to be used in the future. Especially the more we saw how important their past lives are. |
Reply to Puntosmx
DigiCat said:
I'm sorry, but this is utterly disgusting
Deformaties might not be as common, the first symptom to arise from incest is lowered immune system, do you think it's ethical to knowingly concieve a child who will have a higher chance of developing health problems?
What is contradictory? Socially acceptable means it's decriminalized, not that the majority of people are gonna agree with it
SigmaAmarooX said:
If they've been divorced since forever and the siblings barely meet then romantic feelings are not unlikely to arise
If they've been divorced since forever and the siblings barely meet then romantic feelings are not unlikely to arise
I'm sorry, but this is utterly disgusting
SigmaAmarooX said:
Besides, just as another dude in here said, the problems that come from reproducing are uncommon for the first generation
Besides, just as another dude in here said, the problems that come from reproducing are uncommon for the first generation
Deformaties might not be as common, the first symptom to arise from incest is lowered immune system, do you think it's ethical to knowingly concieve a child who will have a higher chance of developing health problems?
SigmaAmarooX said:
And its funny because you said something quite contradictory, "make people blind to that" blind to what? the thing they accept?
And its funny because you said something quite contradictory, "make people blind to that" blind to what? the thing they accept?
What is contradictory? Socially acceptable means it's decriminalized, not that the majority of people are gonna agree with it
I find it ethically irrelevant because we're talking about anime.
Fiction.
Not real humans.
You all are making a mountain oit of a molehil.
If you can't distinguish between fiction and reality, maybe you need some serious counseling.
| @Puntosmx I'll hand that advice down to the personn i was talking to who seems to not be able to distinguish between fiction and reality as proven by the fact he thinks the incest which only consequence it has in an anime is that not everyone will like it is just as fine irl with all the problems that arise from it :) |
squeekeez said: TheSuave said: The anime community is full of people like me who have proudly turned away from the whole "social acceptance" thing. I support incest both in and out of anime. I have a younger sister I want to screw and she knows it. Henceforth one of the reasons why I haven't seen my mother and sister in a few years. Aside from the fact I hate their guts I flat-out told the two of them that if they want me back in their lives they either have to pay me either with cash or with the pussies. But that's getting off-topic. The point is the anime community is full of disturbed people fed up with the violent pot-smoking douchebaggery of Western civilization and don't give a shit about what the mainstream finds socially acceptable and therefore tend to enjoy shit that many conformist normies would consider weird...or even borderline unacceptable. Regulars here on the forums will know that I'm infamous for glorifying loli hentai. I love it and honestly advocate for more erotic loli content in TV anime, Not just the porn. I legitimately miss the days of anime like Kodomo no Jikan and Dance in the Vampire Bund that didn't mind sexualizing a "younger body type". The reason I can voice that with such openness is that I hate mainstream society and wish to stand apart from it and encourage others to do the same. And I figure the creepy "pedo shit" that anime often portrays is an awesome tool to use in that regard. Not just the incest shit. One of the reasons I love anime so much is because it pisses off annoying conformist moralists like you, whose moral compass is most likely littered with contradictions and double standards. I'm 80% sure that OP is just another hypocrite in the vast ocean of conformist monkeys that would call me a bigot for calling Islam a pedophilic philosophy yet ride my ass for advocating this type of contentious content. If anything I love incest and "pedo" anime because it gives you a reason to keep your pompous unsubstituted moralist attitude away from me. Take my post as a sign. You're in the wrong community!!! I'm going to say the same thing I say to all of the annoying Western moral imperialists who bitch about the unorthodox content that comes out of the medium of anime: Stick to Marvel and DC comics and the Western gaming industry. They abide by the same stupid-ass narrowminded ethical expectations that have been instilled in you and are therefore more your scene. The people in those communities hate the same kind of sexual depravity as you do so you'll never have to worry about being lumped in with us sick and depraved weeaboos. You'll have your social acceptance and we'll have our social isolation. It's win/win for everyone. Jesus Christ wtf is this 😭 Ayo this man is unhinged.. 😂 this cant be real. |
Reply to squeekeez
I wake up MAD I can't put my hands on these internet mfs.
I'm glad this guy won't have his genes passed down. I hope no one has to interact with him again and he dies miserable and realizing how pathetic he was.
| @squeekeez LMAO that guy trippin' for real. I usually join in with the jokes, but this guy's gone too far.. maybe even literally. |
LordKirkisAug 9, 2024 8:30 AM
| Some of you weirdos watch way too much hentai. |
Reply to Puntosmx
DigiCat said:
@Puntosmx I'll hand that advice down to the personn i was talking to who seems to not be able to distinguish between fiction and reality as proven by the fact he thinks the incest which only consequence it has in an anime is that not everyone will like it is just as fine irl with all the problems that arise from it :)
@Puntosmx I'll hand that advice down to the personn i was talking to who seems to not be able to distinguish between fiction and reality as proven by the fact he thinks the incest which only consequence it has in an anime is that not everyone will like it is just as fine irl with all the problems that arise from it :)
You can dislike it.
But you preaching for days that it is bad is you being an ass to everyone who likes it.
If you are going to behave like that, I will point it out.
Nobody is forcing you to watch this anime.
Nobody is forcing you to watch any anime at all.
| @Puntosmx You seem to still misunderstand the conversation, like i said, the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl, that was the part i was saying is wrong, you can say "well this is an anime forum why are you talking about irl?" and fair enough, but i didn't start the irl conversation, i just participated in an existing one And you're right, no one is forcing me to watch Oshi no Ko, i watch it cuz it's an interesting anime which covers a lot of dark topics and does an impeccable job showing them for what they are without glorifying or fetishizing bad behaviour, so i hope when the topic of incest comes up it'll be treated the same way |
DigiCat said: the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl That's misleading, I don't really advocate incest itself, but I advocate its legality, because the criminalization violates basic rights. Zarutaku said: incest shouldn't be encouraged? Yes, I never said it should be encouraged and I'm fine if it's discouraged, but it shouldn't be vilified, ostracized or criminalized. There are many things that aren't advisable to do, but they are legal because they don't violate basic rights of other people, same is the case with incest. |
Reply to Zarutaku
DigiCat said:
the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl
the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl
That's misleading, I don't really advocate incest itself, but I advocate its legality, because the criminalization violates basic rights.
Zarutaku said:
incest shouldn't be encouraged? Yes, I never said it should be encouraged and I'm fine if it's discouraged, but it shouldn't be vilified, ostracized or criminalized.
incest shouldn't be encouraged? Yes, I never said it should be encouraged and I'm fine if it's discouraged, but it shouldn't be vilified, ostracized or criminalized.
There are many things that aren't advisable to do, but they are legal because they don't violate basic rights of other people, same is the case with incest.
| @Zarutaku I wasn't talking about you :) But yes, i also highly disagree with advocating for decriminalizing it Zarutaku said: There are many things that aren't advisable to do Please give some examples |
DigiCat said: Please give some examples Off the top of my head:
|
ZarutakuAug 10, 2024 3:20 AM
Reply to Puntosmx
DigiCat said:
Please give some examples
Zarutaku said:
There are many things that aren't advisable to do
There are many things that aren't advisable to do
Please give some examples
Smoking
Drinking alcohol.
Eating food with exhorbitant calorie count.
Eating or drinking massive ammounts of sugar.
All of extreme sports.
Staying at home all day long with no human contact.
Sleeping all day and being awake at night.
Staring at screens all day long.
Not exercising at all.
Excessive exercising.
| @Puntosmx So in your mind, these things are on the same level as incest irl? |
Reply to Puntosmx
DigiCat said:
@Puntosmx You seem to still misunderstand the conversation, like i said, the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl, that was the part i was saying is wrong, you can say "well this is an anime forum why are you talking about irl?" and fair enough, but i didn't start the irl conversation, i just participated in an existing one
@Puntosmx You seem to still misunderstand the conversation, like i said, the person i was talking to not only likes it in anime, but advocates for it irl, that was the part i was saying is wrong, you can say "well this is an anime forum why are you talking about irl?" and fair enough, but i didn't start the irl conversation, i just participated in an existing one
You still misunderstand.
This is an ANIME site.
You keep on discussing offtopic things like humans and laws and other things that are not anime related.
Is that simple enough for you to understand now?
| @Puntosmx Yes, i don't mind participating in discussions that are born out of the original topic, like i said, i didn't start the conversation, i just have no problem if one topic leads to another |
Reply to Puntosmx
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJA
Stop projecting.
Unlike some people in this topic, I can differentiate between a drawing and a human.
| @Puntosmx Then why are you replying to a question i asked @Zarutaku (who is one of those who doesn't seem so good at diferentiating cartoons and people)? Maybe next time you reply look at the context of the conversation |
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