Frostbite_ said: Yay. Now I can clear QP quests slightly faster with NP2 Martha...  I'm beginning to think, and I could be wrong, that maybe you dislike having moar Martha. Nah, of course not, that would be ridiculous. Yaoi-Senpai said: Guys, for Noble Phantasm, A++ or EX? Neither, they mean nothing. Look at their damage multipliers in the wiki. |
astroprogsSep 6, 2017 7:15 AM
| Did one yolo roll. Got Nero CE. Okay, I am done with this gacha. |
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| So does this event give any quartz quests or whatever? Because I'm skipping if it doesn't, since I don't have the normal Nero to bother with trying to get the costume anyway. I wish they did an Agrippina (Nero's mum) gacha in one of these Nerofest events if they have to repeat it every year. Seems like a good place to introduce her into the game. Yaoi-Senpai said: Guys, for Noble Phantasm, A++ or EX? Those rankings (A++ or EX) are only lore relevant. They don't really mean anything in the gameplay. |
Yaoi-Senpai said: Oh, so these ranks are nothing right? Like example Artoria Pendragon Noble Phantasm rank is A++ while Gilgamesh Noble Phantasm rank is EX, that means both of them are same right? It's not like Gilgamesh Noble Phantasm is stronger than Artoria Noble Phantasm right? Yes, the ranks mean nothing in gameplay itself. They're entirely lore/story related (in which case, Gilgamesh's EX ranked NP would be much stronger than Artoria's A++ rank NP), and in the gameplay itself they don't hold any meaning what so ever. A lower ranked NP could easily be better than a higher ranked NP in the gameplay. Same goes for Servants' Parameters/Stats (I don't mean ATK or DEF, but the stats in their profiles), they don't do anything in the gameplay itself. I know I should wait but in JP how much did you guys wait for an event and a story? Eh, it's not that consistent, but they tend to release new chapters in 3 to 4 month gaps, while there's usually at least one big event happening per month (2~3 weeks running events) but not necessarily always the case. Oh, and is the story in JP completed? Why there is 1.5 arc? Is it the continuation of the first Arc? The story isn't completed in the JP version, not even close. We're only done with the first story arc, and the 1.5 arc (Epic of Remnant) are chapters that happen in between the first story arc and the second story arc, apparently. They're supposed to serve the purpose of connecting the first story arc with the second one. Not entirely sure how yet as 1.5 arc still has two chapters unreleased and we barely know anything about the second story arc. |
| Sherlock's NP completely trivializes the Siegfried fight. Gil+Merlin buff+Heaven's Feel CE+Artoria Mystic Code one-shots him. |
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Yaoi-Senpai said: The ranks don't matter in game. Anyways, im assuming you are playing the NA version and are wondering which is the strongest in game. Gil has the stronger NP b/w the the two and after his NP intetlude, it'll arguably be the strongest AOE in the game(it is against servants, since it has a damage boost when used on them, except for a select few).@AirConditioner @astroprogs Oh, so these ranks are nothing right? Like example Artoria Pendragon Noble Phantasm rank is A++ while Gilgamesh Noble Phantasm rank is EX, that means both of them are same right? It's not like Gilgamesh Noble Phantasm is stronger than Artoria Noble Phantasm right? |
-MahesvaraSep 6, 2017 1:26 PM
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| Lololol, I got the CE drop on my 5th battle. I am the chosen one. Nice knowing you, fellas. --- I also maxed Nero's 2nd Skill and Alter's Charisma for the Shishou fight, even though it didn't really make a difference. It's ridiculous how much easier everything is. Merlin is complete haxx. |
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| Haven't spend anything on US yet. It helps that I own practically all the old servants in JP. |
| Yeah considering how much i put on the JP version, no way im putting the same amount of money for NA. I plan on only doing it for the paid gachas, otherwise i'll just hoard quartz for my favorites. |
My Queens |
| Man, farming is piece of cake with full Berserker team with Three Legged God CE. 100% atk boost and guts. Its perfect for Berserker. |
Kaiser-chanSep 7, 2017 4:50 AM
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| Lol, second CE drop. Praise Umu. @AirConditioner Saber vs Lancer at same caliber in terms of both tactics, strength skill, etc, will end in the lancer winning, tho. Unless that was a typo. >Lancers usually expertise in mid-ranged combat Spears are more versatile than that, tho. And the Saber managing to get close would be assuming the Saber is automatically stronger than the Lancers. Which works for most Sabers and Lancers becuz Saber is 'best class' but, with that logic, should also work for Archers. And in a normal fight, with two Servants or even normal people of the same caliber, Lancers would be at a natural advantage - spears and such are built in a way which can utilise both mid-range and short-range combat. The length of the weapon allows for more powers in swings and, depending on what weapons, the lance could easily have more attack variations. On the other hand, swords are mostly short-range and can either successfully: jab, like a fencing sword, or swing/cut/slash, like a katana. You'd be very hard pressed to find a sword which specialises in both, whereas a generic polearm, like the ones the Irish Servants use, specialises in both swings and jabs. > Saber vs Archer is mostly a shitty match up for Sabers because Archers fight long-ranged whereas Sabers don't I meant in a non-Servant match between a swordsman and archer. In a normal match, it'd be impossible to fire off arrows fast and accurately enough against someone who's even running full speed in your direction and the attacker would more likely meander in order to avoid more arrows, making it harder for the archer. But even if with Servants, Mordred vs Chiron? Artoria vs EMIYA? I mean, Arjuna is an exception because he's exceptionally stronk, but a proper, textbook Archer vs Saber match(as in, using a sword and arrows) will almost always end with the Saber winning. > essentially sitting ducks at long ranged combat We're talking about experienced fighters here. Servant or not, they wouldn't be hanging around, waiting to be shot(lol). But, anyway, Servants can't really be argued because they face different circumstances depending on who they are. Which is why my original point was talking about a normal, practical, non-Servant match. |
mira-pyonSep 7, 2017 10:01 AM
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mira-pyon said: >Lancers usually expertise in mid-ranged combat Spears are more versatile than that, tho. And the Saber managing to get close would be assuming the Saber is automatically stronger than the Lancers. Which works for most Sabers and Lancers becuz Saber is 'best class' but, with that logic, should also work for Archers. And in a normal fight, with two Servants or even normal people of the same caliber, Lancers would be at a natural advantage - spears and such are built in a way which can utilise both mid-range and short-range combat. The length of the weapon allows for more powers in swings and, depending on what weapons, the lance could easily have more attack variations. On the other hand, swords are mostly short-range and can either successfully: jab, like a fencing sword, or swing/cut/slash, like a katana. You'd be very hard pressed to find a sword which specialises in both, whereas a generic polearm, like the ones the Irish Servants use, specialises in both swings and jabs. Swords are more oriented towards close combat then spears are simply due to the fact that a spear's sharp point sits on the tip of a pole (which is about mid-ranged) whereas you can simply hack and slash up close with a sword. Also what I meant is that Lancers being focused on mid-ranged combat makes them basically sitting ducks if a Saber pushes away their spear and closes in the distance (which is pretty easy to do mid-ranged as opposed to long-ranged) which is likely to happen just because of the Saber class' better physical strength (Not necessarily always the cause obviously, but as we've said, class advantage isn't an important thing in actual battles either way) Spears CAN be used in short-range, but they're less usable in such a combat scenario than swords are, simply due to swings not being as useful in close range anymore (since the tip of the spear would effectively be behind the enemy which would require for the Lancer to step back or pull back the spear as opposed to just simply slashing away with a sword). It's exactly because spears have both adaptability to short-range and mid-range that swords - which put all importance to just short range - can overcome a spear. In RPG terms, think of it like using your points to max different stats for the sake of being versatile vs using up all your points on only one stat and excelling at only that one stat. Of course a capable Lancer can still fight off a Saber decently in close range, which would essentially overcome the ''class advantage'' rather easily. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ > Saber vs Archer is mostly a shitty match up for Sabers because Archers fight long-ranged whereas Sabers don't I meant in a non-Servant match between a swordsman and archer. In a normal match, it'd be impossible to fire off arrows fast and accurately enough against someone who's even running full speed in your direction and the attacker would more likely meander in order to avoid more arrows, making it harder for the archer. Well yeah, I'm talking entirely about Servant-focus here. Of course it'd be impossible to run away and fire accurately at the same time in real life. Servants can only do that exactly because they're literal magical superhumans, whereas we aren't lol. But even if with Servants, Mordred vs Chiron? Artoria vs EMIYA? Well, yeah. As I've said, the whole class advantage thing really only matters if we're talking about a hypothetical blank-face Saber vs Archer Servant fight, without minding the individual talents/strengths of the heroes summoned as said classes. Even if Emiya has the long range vs short range advantage, he can fire all day long and Artoria will still be hacking down his arrows and tanking them like a champ, eventually running him down with either her NP (which has no relation to the class advantage/container itself) or just Mana Bursting (which again is a personal skill rather than a class/container thing) her ass up to him and hacking him down. Chiron vs Mordred is more of a closer fight than that, but yeah, basically goes by the same principles. Mordred and Artoria are just too good of fighters to let the class advantage matter in the first place which brings us back to what I was saying - class advantage doesn't matter in actual fights between Heroic Spirits cuz they're just that good. And yeah fair point about Arjuna > essentially sitting ducks at long ranged combat We're talking about experienced fighters here. Servant or not, they wouldn't be hanging around, waiting to be shot(lol). What I meant by sitting ducks here is that (if you don't count NPs and personal skills) Sabers lack any form of long-ranged attack, which basically leaves them without any legitimate way to counterattack, and having to either constantly defend against long-ranged strikes from Archers (which is likely to result in their defeat) or simply retreat. But, anyway, Servants can't really be argued because they face different circumstances depending on who they are. Which is why my original point was talking about a normal, practical, non-Servant match. What I was thinking of was more in the line of, Servants with their superhuman abilities, but they're blank slates without any personal skills or NPs. Just think of it as class containers themselves fighting it out (since they have base parameters and all) without any influence of a Heroic Spirit's individual strength/talents. |
| I rolled 2 tickets in Nerofest and got Nero. Okay. |
AirConditioner said: Swords are more oriented towards close combat then spears are simply due to the fact that a spear's sharp point sits on the tip of a pole (which is about mid-ranged) Except you have swords like that as well, such as rapiers( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), which still succeed at close combat. whereas you can simply hack and slash up close with a sword. You can do the same with a spear, tho. There's nothing stopping a lancer from adjusting their grip and turning it to a pseudo-sword fight. There's no cross-guard stopping the user from sliding their hands down, and it's not like it's an action which could take a while like pulling out and nocking an arrow. Also what I meant is that Lancers being focused on mid-ranged combat makes them basically sitting ducks if a Saber pushes away their spear and closes in the distance (which is pretty easy to do mid-ranged as opposed to long-ranged) which is likely to happen just because of the Saber class' better physical strength (Not necessarily always the cause obviously, but as we've said, class advantage isn't an important thing in actual battles either way) Yes, it's easy to turn it into a close-range battle, but that doesn't mean the lance is suddenly at a huge disadvantage. Like we see Cu doing pretty much all the time, he can easily jump back - Lancers have the best, if not 2nd best, Agility for a reason. And this is assuming a Lancer would be bad at close combat, which is completely false. A good user of a spear would be as proficient in close combat as they are in mid-combat. Only being good at mid-combat would literally mean the user isn't using the spear for what it was built to do. Spears CAN be used in short-range, but they're less usable in such a combat scenario than swords are, simply due to swings not being as useful in close range anymore (since the tip of the spear would effectively be behind the enemy which would require for the Lancer to step back or pull back the spear as opposed to just simply slashing away with a sword). Pulling back the spear barely takes any efforts tho. A Lancer who can see that their opponent is closing in can easily slide their grip down the pole. There is absolutely nothing stopping them - the pole is smooth for that very reason. And Lancers stepping back is a very common thing. As I said above, Cu does it a lot and he can pull it off BECAUSE he's of Lancer class - his agility is naturally better. After changing the positioning of their grip, it's literally just a pseudo-sword fight from there, which a good lancer shouldn't be overwhelmed in. It's exactly because spears have both adaptability to short-range and mid-range that swords - which put all importance to just short range - can overcome a spear. In RPG terms, think of it like using your points to max different stats for the sake of being versatile vs using up all your points on only one stat and excelling at only that one stat. Lol, I knew you would say this, but actual life doesn't work like RPGs. A spear is meant for both close combat and mid-range. That's in its definition. It'd literally be impossible to only spend 'points' on one action of the spear because both close and mid-range combat are intrinsic parts which naturally come with a spear fight. Again, a good user of a spear will be proficient at both mid-range and close-range combat. And it's not a matter of spending more time/effort developing one part - they both come together. Focusing on the mid-range alone would be like trying to learn physics without maths. It's just not possible - you need to be both good at maths and the scientific method for it to work as a whole. Dunno why this was the first analogy to come to mind. Of course a capable Lancer can still fight off a Saber decently in close range, which would essentially overcome the ''class advantage'' rather easily. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Well yeah, which was my point. >3> > Saber vs Archer is mostly a shitty match up for Sabers because Archers fight long-ranged whereas Sabers don't I meant in a non-Servant match between a swordsman and archer. In a normal match, it'd be impossible to fire off arrows fast and accurately enough against someone who's even running full speed in your direction and the attacker would more likely meander in order to avoid more arrows, making it harder for the archer. Well yeah, I'm talking entirely about Servant-focus here. Of course it'd be impossible to run away and fire accurately at the same time in real life. Servants can only do that exactly because they're literal magical superhumans, whereas we aren't lol. Lololol. But even if with Servants, Mordred vs Chiron? Artoria vs EMIYA? Well, yeah. As I've said, the whole class advantage thing really only matters if we're talking about a hypothetical blank-face Saber vs Archer Servant fight Yeah, exactly. Which is impossible, hence why I leaned more on actual humans. >3> > essentially sitting ducks at long ranged combat We're talking about experienced fighters here. Servant or not, they wouldn't be hanging around, waiting to be shot(lol). What I meant by sitting ducks here is that (if you don't count NPs and personal skills) Sabers lack any form of long-ranged attack, which basically leaves them without any legitimate way to counterattack, and having to either constantly defend against long-ranged strikes from Archers (which is likely to result in their defeat) or simply retreat. Well that's what legs are for. Hacking down attacks + running is an easily achievable task. It should be nothing for a Servant. And long-range should probably be easier than mid-range, as the threat can be tackled in far more ways. But, anyway, Servants can't really be argued because they face different circumstances depending on who they are. Which is why my original point was talking about a normal, practical, non-Servant match. What I was thinking of was more in the line of, Servants with their superhuman abilities, but they're blank slates without any personal skills or NPs. Just think of it as class containers themselves fighting it out (since they have base parameters and all) without any influence of a Heroic Spirit's individual strength/talents. Well even if that's the case, the Saber should still be winning against the Archers. I mean, you said it yourself that they have good physical strength. A Saber should be able to hack down arrows easily. Just from glancing at the FGO wiki, the Sabers and Archers both have, on average, B-rank Agi. That's means it should be ridiculously easy for a Saber to catch up. There're only so many things an arrow can do and it's not like the blank Archer slate can fire multi-arrows of broken phantasms at a time, nor can they act like homing missles. I literally can't see any reason why a Saber wouldn't be able to close in to an Archer. ShinsoPriest said: I rolled 2 tickets in Nerofest and got Nero. Okay. Lol, didn't you already have her? This is basically nothing. And now you've used up your luck. :^) |
mira-pyonSep 7, 2017 3:30 PM
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mira-pyon said: ShinsoPriest said: I rolled 2 tickets in Nerofest and got Nero. Okay. Lol, didn't you already have her? This is basically nothing. And now you've used up your luck. :^) Nah, I had Nero Bride, she's NP2. I just never got the regular Nero. Would've helped 2 years ago. |
| Ah, the Herc fight was more fun than I thought it would be. I went back to see my post about the first run a year ago and, wow, what a difference. This party absolutely murders Herc. No power-up event CEs.  Compared to the one I used last year (2 power-up event CEs): That fight was pretty amazing. Rulers' 1.1x multiplier, Jeanne not stunning herself constantly and finally Merlin and Martha's insane multipliers against Herc made this way WAY easier than it was the first time last year. My Martha (NP4) deals more damage than my J. Alter (NP1) by ~60%, coupled with 100% crit buff, 100% Martha buff against Divine Servants, 50% Merlin Buster buff, ~30% plugsuit ATK buff and I was able to take 3 lives in every single turn I could get an NPBBE chain, which wasn't that rare thanks to Martha's Buster kit.  Yes, I use the superior first ascension model for Martha Ruler. Aside from substituting Jeanne with Mashu and back once to avoid two NPs, I neither lost a Servant nor once felt out of options. Last year, I was a turn away from losing while having used all 3 CSs. But hey, I did it in 10 less turns then, so I'm kinda proud of that. I could win with a very aggressive, very fast team once and with a 2 support + heavy hitter in a more methodical way a year later. I remember this fight being awesome and enjoyable last year because of how authentic it felt with its lore integration into gameplay and how good it felt overcoming that challenge. This year it feels just as good, but for a different reason. Completely stomping while still having to be cautions is a fine line and this challenge, once again, delivered.  Kudos, DW. REALLY looking forward to the Assassin challenge with my newly acquired Nero Caster. On a side note, I wonder if they'll bring back the original Nero fight before the nerf. I really wanna try that one out this time around. ShinsoPriest said: mira-pyon said: Lol, didn't you already have her? This is basically nothing. And now you've used up your luck. :^) Nah, I had Nero Bride, she's NP2. I just never got the regular Nero. Would've helped 2 years ago. Nero is an unkillable Arts machine with very respectable damage and NP. She's still very much usable in the current meta, just max her skills and do her quests. |
astroprogsSep 7, 2017 11:09 PM
| i dont remember how i killed gil last year.... |
| bruh |
kei78 said: i dont remember how i killed gil last year.... Yeah, I went through the pages of that time last year and you don't seem to have posted how you did it. Post it this time, then. Gotta record these memories, man. |
| I finally beat Siegfried. Only Shiki and Support Kintoki can actually deal decent damage with their NP. That was hella annoying. |
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| Screw you Gilgamesh. The quest was actually bugged before so it was more difficult than it should be. |
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| i have to become a F2P player from now on. got a second car accident within 16month. im fine, but my car is not |
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mira-pyon said: Except you have swords like that as well, such as rapiers( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), which still succeed at close combat. Well... true actually, but most swords are intended for hack and slashing so I doubt they put in any thought to rapiers while making that class advantage table. You can do the same with a spear, tho. There's nothing stopping a lancer from adjusting their grip and turning it to a pseudo-sword fight. There's no cross-guard stopping the user from sliding their hands down, and it's not like it's an action which could take a while like pulling out and nocking an arrow. That's not gonna be nearly as useful as a sword though. Mainly because then that ''sword'' would have a meter long handle behind your grip which would prevent the usage of slashing skills in as clean of a manner as with an actual sword. Yes, it's easy to turn it into a close-range battle, but that doesn't mean the lance is suddenly at a huge disadvantage. Like we see Cu doing pretty much all the time, he can easily jump back - Lancers have the best, if not 2nd best, Agility for a reason. And this is assuming a Lancer would be bad at close combat, which is completely false. A good user of a spear would be as proficient in close combat as they are in mid-combat. Only being good at mid-combat would literally mean the user isn't using the spear for what it was built to do. And Lancers stepping back is a very common thing. As I said above, Cu does it a lot and he can pull it off BECAUSE he's of Lancer class - his agility is naturally better. The disadvantage isn't huge but there's STILL a disadvantage, which could mean the world in battles where the opposing sides are equal in strength. A slight advantage could easily give one the win. Also, Lancers are literally the most agile Servant class, not the 2nd. There's no doubt about it. It's the Lancer class' main advantage just as Rider class' advantage is the strength or versatility of their NPs (they usually have 3~5 NPs whereas other class Servants only have up to 3 max. per summoning). They could make use of their agility to jump back, but the Sabers would keep running head on again at them, and keep bringing about the said situation. Which is kinda the point here of why a sword would be better than a lance. Also the point wasn't that Lancers are incapable of short-ranged combat, it's just that the nature of their weapons makes Sabers MORE oriented towards that fighting style than Lancers. Pulling back the spear barely takes any efforts tho. A Lancer who can see that their opponent is closing in can easily slide their grip down the pole. There is absolutely nothing stopping them - the pole is smooth for that very reason. After changing the positioning of their grip, it's literally just a pseudo-sword fight from there, which a good lancer shouldn't be overwhelmed in. Well this I've already addressed above, but as borderline effortless as it is, it's still not as effortless to do it as it is with a sword. A good Lancer would be good enough to just make that slight gap not matter, but that's kinda beside the point which is that we're only talking about class container advantages here and not the talents of individual Lancers. Spears are weapons that are more intended for ramming your opponent with (with good force) and fighting them for a bit of a distance, swords are literally ''get in your face'' style of weapons. Spears can be used in that manner too, but they're not AS intended for it as swords are. Lol, I knew you would say this, but actual life doesn't work like RPGs. A spear is meant for both close combat and mid-range. That's in its definition. It'd literally be impossible to only spend 'points' on one action of the spear because both close and mid-range combat are intrinsic parts which naturally come with a spear fight. Again, a good user of a spear will be proficient at both mid-range and close-range combat. And it's not a matter of spending more time/effort developing one part - they both come together. Focusing on the mid-range alone would be like trying to learn physics without maths. It's just not possible - you need to be both good at maths and the scientific method for it to work as a whole. Dunno why this was the first analogy to come to mind. It doesn't work like RPG but the point here was that spears are versatile. Instead of excelling at one style of fighting, they're jack of all trades, therefore - while they're very good weapons to have if you're talented - they just aren't intended or as useful for a SPECIFIC fighting style as swords are, which excel at that one thing and that one thing only. Hence the whole RPG analogy. Spears aren't really just ''better versions of swords''. They aren't swords on top of having some additional features. They're just more versatile than swords. A spear is inherently better weapon for someone with good agility or someone with good strength which would allow you to ram the point of the spear into the enemy with massive force behind it. As you yourself have said, they are more intended for thrusting than hack and slashing. You can use a normal sword to thrust as well, and you can use a spear to hack and slash, but they just aren't as intended for those fighting styles as each other. Well yeah, which was my point. >3> But I never really disagreed with this lol. The whole point here is that at the end of the day, these class advantages don't mean shit in actual Servant battles, because heroes summoned under these classes can easily overcome the disadvantages presented to them. Karna could easily rape any Saber up to date, despite being a Lancer. Though he might not be that good of an analogy here since Karna's a literal monster, but the point is basically, the class advantage doesn't matter in the big picture and if you start considering it in ''a good Lancer could do x'' it kinda kills the point of the convo since I never disagreed that a good Lancer would overcome the disadvantage of their weapon against a certain other weapon, just that the weapon themselves have some slight drawbacks against one another. Well even if that's the case, the Saber should still be winning against the Archers. I mean, you said it yourself that they have good physical strength. A Saber should be able to hack down arrows easily. Just from glancing at the FGO wiki, the Sabers and Archers both have, on average, B-rank Agi. That's means it should be ridiculously easy for a Saber to catch up. There're only so many things an arrow can do and it's not like the blank Archer slate can fire multi-arrows of broken phantasms at a time, nor can they act like homing missles. I literally can't see any reason why a Saber wouldn't be able to close in to an Archer. Archer has C rank Agi, Saber has B rank. They're faster than Archers by a rank, and while yes, they do have the strength necessary to rock down an arrow despite the force behind it when in Servant battles, it's more of a question of accuracy here. You need to be able to accurately slash an arrow down before it hits you, considering how thin they are. And since there's no stat for accuracy itself, if you consider the argument that Sabers could easily slash an arrow out of midair, we're kinda getting back into the ''the individual's talent'' rather than bow and arrow vs sword, despite all Sabers probably being capable enough to slash down a flying arrow. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Bows and Arrows beat out a Sword because Long Ranged can fight Short Ranged, but Short Ranged cannot fight Long Ranged, and the ability to cut down a flying arrow is considered one's individual talent for accuracy and defense rather than the advantage of using a sword. Though I can't imagine why Lancers are considered > Archers. My best guess is that Lancers being the fastest class allows them to easily close the distance (way easier than a Saber) which would put the Archer at a disadvantage. That and maybe spears are more useful for slamming down projectiles (since not all Archers use arrows) just because they have a longer range so smashing them down from mid air might not pose as big of a threat to the wielder as a sword user, in case the projectile explodes or something (since in Lancers' case, it'd so outside of their body's range). |
| @AirConditioner Lol, I'm tired of this. It's even worse that we're talking about very circumstantial battles with unclear stats. Imma just agree to disagree. I've meandered off my initial point anyway, which has already been sorted. kei78 said: i have to become a F2P player from now on. got a second car accident within 16month. im fine, but my car is not Wow, dude. Don't let your waifus distract you on the road! |
mira-pyonSep 8, 2017 7:48 AM
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| I'm an idiot, without realizing the damage boost CE also works in the exibition quests, i did the first 4 without using it lol |
My Queens |
mira-pyon said: @AirConditioner Lol, I'm tired of this. It's even worse that we're talking about very circumstantial battles with unclear stats. Imma just agree to disagree. I've meandered off my initial point anyway, which has already been sorted. Meh yeah, I agree. It was a p irrelevant thing to discuss about anyway, I guess. Both of us pretty much agree that these class advantages don't matter for shit really. |
| I finally beat all of the 2016 Exhibition Quests. First 4 of them (Hercules, Scathach/Cu, Hassans, and Siegfried) were pretty easy for me without using CSs, and later Medb, Gilgamesh, and Final Exhibition quest were pretty hard but I somehow won against all of them. I only used 2 of CSs on Archuria (100% NP and Full HP) against Nero and Medea before she finally killed them. Now I'll go back to continue farming for more petals or medals. |
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-Mahesvara said: I'm an idiot, without realizing the damage boost CE also works in the exibition quests, i did the first 4 without using it lol Lol, same. Tho I guess the damage CE would only make the Hassan quest harder. |
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| Finally beat AUO Mama Raikou lancer + event Ce and 2 merlin with 2030 Ce got though it Just in casz i had Rock'n'roll Nobu and Tituria lancer in the support team |
| bruh |
| Exhibition quests are more trouble than they're worth. Might skip. |
| Its not about the reward, its about sending a message. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Its not about the reward, its about sending a message. That we're a bunch of nerds with way too much free time on our hands? kei78 said: i have to become a F2P player from now on. got a second car accident within 16month. im fine, but my car is not Oof, sorry to hear that, mate. As long as you're fine yourself, it's okay. Thank god there was no MHX rate-up tho, amirite? |
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| I'm tempted to not even bother with trying to clear out the shop, because the lottery system is just to good not to abuse. |
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| @astroprogs yup u are right |
| bruh |
-Mahesvara said: I'm tempted to not even bother with trying to clear out the shop, because the lottery system is just to good not to abuse. Same. I think I'll get the CEs and the 4* Fous and call it an umu. |
| Say, what's the best quest to spam? It seems the highest level gives the most roses but level 60 gives out everything beside the gold medals which is pretty good too. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Say, what's the best quest to spam? It seems the highest level gives the most roses but level 60 gives out everything beside the gold medals which is pretty good too. Depends on what you're trying to farm: Best Drops: Preliminaries Petal - 40 AP LV 90 Gold - 30 AP or 40 AP LV 80 Silver - 20 AP or 40 AP LV 80 Bronze - 10 AP (40 AP LV 60 also work, but not that much difference) |
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ShinsoPriest said: Exhibition quests are more trouble than they're worth. Might skip. Nevermind, finished them while recharging AP. Hassan is fun with Nero Caster and Medea Lily. |
| Hell yeah, best event. Lottery FP finally got me my 3rd Angry Manjuu. Let's if I can get any more. :D |
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| I start to think i have all the qualification to join the throne of heroes as a lancer. - E-- luck rank (super salty gacha) - Survavibility Ex / invincibility : survive 3mortal car accidents and from being hit by a car while walking within 4 years. Could have really died on the last mentionned. - Yari (spear) user in martial art should i ask for hero création kit and wreck 1000 people? |
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