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Nov 17, 2016 8:21 PM
#1951
Shanashan said: Duos said: Please keep in mind that I am not a Vigilante. I am an Arsonist. When I target someone at night, they do not die that same phase. They slowly burn and die at the end of the next phase. But both our result will make the person die / no effect. which means both are killer card. (they are almost the same in some way) I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:24 PM
#1952
Nov 17, 2016 8:26 PM
#1953
Duos said: Shanashan said: Duos said: Please keep in mind that I am not a Vigilante. I am an Arsonist. When I target someone at night, they do not die that same phase. They slowly burn and die at the end of the next phase. But both our result will make the person die / no effect. which means both are killer card. (they are almost the same in some way) I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive. Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:28 PM
#1954
Shanashan said: Doughkey said: Shanashan said: Lol. .. T_T im so confused now.. what do you think is the probability of having Duos's claim about having ability to burn 2-3 ppl + other card having ability to vig shot 2 ppl? @Doughkey , @Jackrito , @Fo Edit: other players can answer too lol. This game is whack, I wouldn't be surprised. Duos seems irrational enough to vig kill Reiynii last night- checks out for me. I do not think there would be 2 vigs so the real vig should have countered Duos if it really was fake. With no counter in sight I will choose to believe Duos. While scary to have him as Vig atleast it isn't Grr. I was the one who possess Duos to kill Reiynii lol >_> Why did you choose me anyway? You can't simply possess me and kill someone, then use your actions as evidence that I am lying. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:30 PM
#1955
Shanashan said: Feeling bad now. I don't know anymore.. -__- Gonna wait to see what others have to say about the possibility :( Whenever you feel bad about your play in mafia always remember my run in Lord of The Rings Mafia that Pyro hosted. Got subbed in 15 minutes before phase change - I was Frodo, I was a hider who held the ring and was probably the most important role. Pyro tells me I need to submit my action in the next 15 minutes so I skim through the game at mach speed and decide to hide behind Jack. Jack got shot and I was taken down with him. I was in the game for 25 minutes before ruining town. I had 2 posts, one saying hello, another stating I would catch all the scum by next phase. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:36 PM
#1956
Doughkey said: Duos said: Shanashan said: Duos said: Please keep in mind that I am not a Vigilante. I am an Arsonist. When I target someone at night, they do not die that same phase. They slowly burn and die at the end of the next phase. But both our result will make the person die / no effect. which means both are killer card. (they are almost the same in some way) I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive. Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real. I don't think this game is broken. There are many ways to counter kills and at least one has been mentioned; PentaFlare's roleblocking ability. If up to now I've been getting double votes and investigative buffs, I don't doubt the addition of fortune cards that can interfere with kills. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:41 PM
#1957
Duos said: Shanashan said: Doughkey said: Shanashan said: Lol. .. T_T im so confused now.. what do you think is the probability of having Duos's claim about having ability to burn 2-3 ppl + other card having ability to vig shot 2 ppl? @Doughkey , @Jackrito , @Fo Edit: other players can answer too lol. This game is whack, I wouldn't be surprised. Duos seems irrational enough to vig kill Reiynii last night- checks out for me. I do not think there would be 2 vigs so the real vig should have countered Duos if it really was fake. With no counter in sight I will choose to believe Duos. While scary to have him as Vig atleast it isn't Grr. I was the one who possess Duos to kill Reiynii lol >_> Why did you choose me anyway? You can't simply possess me and kill someone, then use your actions as evidence that I am lying. Bcos Fo said his ability can block card effects and other ppl mentioned about protective ability and shit. I choose Reiynii bcos many scumreading her and I also suspecting her. (but I did it on her expecting it to fail seeing how my kill on Jack failed and N1 kill failed) I choose you bcos at that time I was believing that your claim was real, so I was afraid if I pick someone else (that have similar ability to Fo), then my card effect would have failed to kill Reiynii. Also after Jack asked me about this , it makes me suspect my theory I made up earlier in the game a little. So I just thought I can possess you to make a kill while testing if you have another ability that you are hiding. But I was really expecting the kill to fail to be very the superb honest -_- Then when the kill goes thru, it caused the theory I made on 2 ppl having same killing abilities earlier on to crack.... just my own thought process.. and a very newbie kind so i hope you can understand what i mean.. but then it doesn't have to make sense to you since it is just my own thought process that i came up with.. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:52 PM
#1958
I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential. When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time. I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim. The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 8:56 PM
#1959
Duos said: I'm conflicted. My vote from yesterday resulted on Ruu being a card captor. I don't understand what you were trying to say, can you explain please? I know I'm town but I want to know how did your vote confirm that. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:58 PM
#1960
You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does. |
Nov 17, 2016 8:59 PM
#1961
Suzune-chan said: Okay that is a moon card too. I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky. Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice... |
Nov 17, 2016 9:01 PM
#1962
Ruu said: Duos said: I'm conflicted. My vote from yesterday resulted on Ruu being a card captor. I don't understand what you were trying to say, can you explain please? I know I'm town but I want to know how did your vote confirm that. Day 2 I was allowed to learn what faction a lynch candidate belonged to. When I voted for you I broadened up the list, and you ended up being the lucky winner. |
Nov 17, 2016 9:04 PM
#1963
Ruu said: Nope, it was for Coro. See what they would do. They had two moon cards and I took them. The Voice for example is a sun card. So I would not have been able to take it.Suzune-chan said: Okay that is a moon card too. I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky. Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice... |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:08 PM
#1964
Suzune-chan said: I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential. When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time. I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim. The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything. I understand your passage but I don't get is that supposed to relate to my question about Duos's card? o_O If yes, I don't really know how to connect the case you gave to Duos's case >_> |
Nov 17, 2016 9:13 PM
#1965
Shanashan said: It was not directed at you directly. It was more of a comment. I noticed above someone was talking about the kind of abilities that had been claimed. It made me realize that way you claimed versus what you might actually have it the divide here. In other words, I want to open a closed door on the idea that people who claimed are more likely townie or that their abilities are somehow confirmed when you can half them. Suzune-chan said: I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential. When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time. I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim. The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything. I understand your passage but I don't get is that supposed to relate to my question about Duos's card? o_O If yes, I don't really know how to connect the case you gave to Duos's case >_> Sorry, it was inserted into the conversation at the wrong point. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:16 PM
#1966
Vote Count 3.2 ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ Heh-heh-heh grrr ☒ Ruu, Doughkey, coromandel, Jackrito, Phraze Duos ☒ Shanashan Not Voting PentaFlare, Suzune-chan, Fo, Karote, grrr, Duos ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ ✪✪ Mod Note(s) - ❧ Countdown to Night 3 Mayhem ☙ |
Nov 17, 2016 9:23 PM
#1967
grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be? |
Nov 17, 2016 9:24 PM
#1968
Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: Nope, it was for Coro. See what they would do. They had two moon cards and I took them. The Voice for example is a sun card. So I would not have been able to take it.Suzune-chan said: Okay that is a moon card too. I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky. Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice... Ah okay ^^ I want to say that I will not change my vote because I just reread my fortune and it says that if I have doubts something bad will happen (o_o) [s]@aa-dono can we have a vote count please? (≧∇≦)[\s] |
Nov 17, 2016 9:25 PM
#1969
Duos said: You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does. It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this. |
Nov 17, 2016 9:28 PM
#1970
Ruu said: My fortune says that actions based on rationality and courage will gain me supporters. But actionsmade in haste will attract enemies. So I kind of see it as reading a fortune cookie, mine inspires me to look back and reflect.Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: Suzune-chan said: Okay that is a moon card too. I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky. Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice... Ah okay ^^ I want to say that I will not change my vote because I just reread my fortune and it says that if I have doubts something bad will happen (o_o) [s]@aa-dono can we have a vote count please? (≧∇≦)[\s] |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:30 PM
#1971
Duos said: I would say 80% of the time in anime possession is abad thing. But it is that other twenty percent thet gets you. Usually anime have a counter weight, if one possession is bad there is usually a good one. So what's the balance in card captors.Duos said: You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does. It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:30 PM
#1972
Duos said: grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be? Rinto was the same xD Poor rei we didn't believe her and now she is dead D: We should be careful because rei was really scummy and she ended up being cc We need to reevaluate our reads I think |
Nov 17, 2016 9:32 PM
#1973
Ruu said: I do not feel like I would have ever voted rei, because she seemed townie to me, especially early game.Duos said: grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be? Rinto was the same xD Poor rei we didn't believe her and now she is dead D: We should be careful because rei was really scummy and she ended up being cc We need to reevaluate our reads I think |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:34 PM
#1974
Nov 17, 2016 9:37 PM
#1975
Nov 17, 2016 9:40 PM
#1976
@shanashan Karote and I confirmed each other through my fortune card so why Am I 60% T^T |
Nov 17, 2016 9:41 PM
#1977
Duos said: Duos said: You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does. It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this. I actually hinted my card name or even my character if you have knowledge of what card in CCS has the ability of direct kill/ possession lol. I just couldn't help typing everything out bcos feeling very confused >_> |
Nov 17, 2016 9:42 PM
#1978
My phone is dying and I don't have my pc with me so... Night night everyone !!!! |
Nov 17, 2016 9:43 PM
#1979
Ruu said: @shanashan Karote and I confirmed each other through my fortune card so why Am I 60% T^T xD i dunno.. I put Karote in higher percentage based on how Rinto was keep going after Karote by saying Karote is hiding behind the shade of Fo's claim earlier in the game. That makes me feel Karote shouldn't be scumbuddy of Rinto. Then Karote helped confirm you so I put you in lower percentage lol |
Nov 17, 2016 9:45 PM
#1980
Shanashan said: Duos said: Duos said: You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does. It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this. I actually hinted my card name or even my character if you have knowledge of what card in CCS has the ability of direct kill/ possession lol. I just couldn't help typing everything out bcos feeling very confused >_> I will look into it when I wake up in a couple of hours |
Nov 17, 2016 9:45 PM
#1981
@Shanashan now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate.. about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all] I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too... aa-dono said: Heh-heh-heh or maybe I'm being overly paranoid |
Nov 17, 2016 9:49 PM
#1982
@Shanashan oh yes and.... I can confirm Doki is town, followed by Ruu and Karote for having the fortune in play. if anyone wants to throw doubt on them..sheesh lynch me first |
Nov 17, 2016 9:54 PM
#1983
I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. |
Nov 17, 2016 9:57 PM
#1984
Phraze said: @Shanashan now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate.. about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all] I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too... aa-dono said: Heh-heh-heh or maybe I'm being overly paranoid lol guess so.. after you mentioned me posting fluff and i started thinking that night then it is possible bcos i was too eager to find scums > town compared to other game i played lol Based on the interaction I posted earlier on about Rinto, it just felt grrr is town lol.. but after Reiynii flipped town it made me want to reconsider everything.. As for Jack for the "lol at the possible scum slip", I didn't think much about it when he said that, but after Reiynii flipped I start to think back about it a little. But then I would have kill Reiynii even without Jack's post about that ,bcos I was suspecting her since D1 ended ;--; plus all the attention she is getting for scumread ;--; I would never want to get the ability to kill anymore Suzune declared her immunity to NK on D2, so I don't really think Suzune is the NK1 target >_> |
Nov 17, 2016 9:59 PM
#1985
Duos said: I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. From what I remembered : Karote - Ruu Duos - Ruu Suzune - Doki (for The Song card) Phraze - Doki (which just happened) Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2) |
Nov 17, 2016 10:32 PM
#1986
Nov 17, 2016 10:39 PM
#1987
Shanashan said: Phraze said: @Shanashan now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate.. about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all] I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too... aa-dono said: Heh-heh-heh or maybe I'm being overly paranoid lol guess so.. after you mentioned me posting fluff and i started thinking that night then it is possible bcos i was too eager to find scums > town compared to other game i played lol Based on the interaction I posted earlier on about Rinto, it just felt grrr is town lol.. but after Reiynii flipped town it made me want to reconsider everything.. As for Jack for the "lol at the possible scum slip", I didn't think much about it when he said that, but after Reiynii flipped I start to think back about it a little. But then I would have kill Reiynii even without Jack's post about that ,bcos I was suspecting her since D1 ended ;--; plus all the attention she is getting for scumread ;--; I would never want to get the ability to kill anymore Suzune declared her immunity to NK on D2, so I don't really think Suzune is the NK1 target >_> a killer's confession in-game is very emotional, esp when it's the product of betrayal, much like irl! *hits self* Jack u evil villain... uhhhh what am I saying.. Jack didn't know who was the vig, if he knew it was u then he might not have advertised. it's possible he left it out there for whoever's vig and had doubts to kill reiynii instead of grrr Suzune said immune on D2, but it was alrdy passed N1 kill. maybe mafia wanted to know if it was a 1 time block or not. |
Nov 17, 2016 11:41 PM
#1988
Shanashan said: Duos said: I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. From what I remembered : Karote - Ruu Duos - Ruu Suzune - Doki (for The Song card) Phraze - Doki (which just happened) Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2) I believe that someone confirmed Fo too. |
Nov 18, 2016 12:37 AM
#1989
Duos said: I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. +1 We need an overview. Phraze > "Doughkey, Karote and Ruu are town" Duos > "Ruu is town" Karote > "Ruu is town" PentaFlare > "Shanashan is town" Suzune > Penta has the moon-aligned card "The Time", Coro had 2 moon-aligned cards "The Jump", "The Illusion" Someone said he'd received pudding from Fo - who was that? Also, no one is confirmed just because they have a sun-aligned card! I started with a moon-aligned Card and I'm town. |
Nov 18, 2016 12:37 AM
#1990
Duos said: Shanashan said: Duos said: I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. From what I remembered : Karote - Ruu Duos - Ruu Suzune - Doki (for The Song card) Phraze - Doki (which just happened) Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2) I believe that someone confirmed Fo too. I think Doki used his ability on Fo here , but I didn't pay much attention to what it means lol. >_> |
Nov 18, 2016 12:40 AM
#1991
@Shanashan Do you think Rinto would want Duos lynched the first day if they were scum buddies together? |
Nov 18, 2016 12:43 AM
#1992
@Shanashan Why did you try to kill Jack during N1? |
Nov 18, 2016 1:18 AM
#1994
coromandel said: @Shanashan Do you think Rinto would want Duos lynched the first day if they were scum buddies together? That is what I was thinking on N2 based on interactions. but I'm just very confused with Duos as explained lol :( and then Rinto's last second vote change to grrr is weird as well and it feels like it was a bit on purpose. and when I look back the readlist Rinto provided: #479 - grrr, Karote, Duos #535 - Duos, grrr, Zymf, Shinichi, Suzune Shinichi is town, Suzune is tpr, then that left grrr, Karote, Duos, Zymf mentioned. Karote - I want to take out Karote from the list as well, bcos Rinto was keep asking Karote about how Karote's ability work and act like attempting to discredit Karote's claim - #195 , #199 , #471 and that left grrr, Duos, Zymf Zymf - was neutral reading him but he voted grrr to save Shinichi in #220 where Shinichi that time was showing healthy town vibe so Zymf is neutral-positive ; and Phraze replaced in so don't really feel like saying much yet >_> And then not sure why Rinto would mention Duos and grrr twice in his readlist. >_> Also, Rinto's vote process here: #24 Shinichi (RVS) -> Unvote -> #573 Duos -> #578 Unvote -> #590 Duos -> #608 (wanted to vote grrr but then phase had changed) -> #1316 Penta -> #1575 grrr -> #1677 Coro Duos and grrr are also the one that stands out the most >_> Seriously I don't know what I'm talking. I need to buy a lie detector *check wallet* *oh no nvm I have walls* *head slam* I just feel Duos and grrr stand out alot in Rinto's interaction and stand out until Fo and you and someone else(?) including me thinking either one or both Duos and grrr might be town. And when my reads on Reiynii failed, I just figured I should start to rethink what I believed in.. *slam wall* |
Nov 18, 2016 1:20 AM
#1995
Shanashan said: Duos said: I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other. From what I remembered : Karote - Ruu Duos - Ruu Suzune - Doki (for The Song card) Phraze - Doki (which just happened) Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2) This is where one of my key issues with this game is coming, from this much confirmation on roles on day 3 is actually insane and broken beyond belief. Let me add in how characters are easy to claim because game is semi open and roles are connected by flavor. Add that with scum seeming to lack confirmed fake claim based off Rinto's failure. This can not be right and they must be some lies in there no host should make it that easy. Add that with Shana having 2 night kills as town and Duos also having multiple t klld hat ruins the balance even more, I understand that a lot of us seem to have some counter to been killed. But they is far too many it would be nearly impossible for scum to make a kill. All this info makes no sense this is rolemadness but they needs to be a certain level of balance. Going to game mod a bit here but I feel a need to I know the two people who approved this and I can not see it been this protown. Maybe I'm been mad here but I can't be the only one thinking this, one of the people confirmed must be scum and one of Duos or Shana seems likely, I would lean more towards Duos since Penta cop checked Shana and got town back. I can't see scum having 2 godfather roles. I need to look at things again because none of this makes sense, so someone has to be lying here, |
Nov 18, 2016 1:24 AM
#1996
I actually TRIED to do a vote count analysis on D1 and I feel that Jack and Reiynii 's votes stand out the most. So I just pick both of them on N1 and then aa-dono told me I can only pick 1 ability at 1 time lol.. I knowwww I was just rushing to scumread and pick the two bcos my last 2 games dead too fast so I just rush myself to do as much as I can but I actually survive quite long this game which made me kind of surprised myself lmaooo. I think in long run I'm going to be so dead bcos I threw too much shit and made too many mistakes by rushing myself doing shits early game lol.. But then Jack is still in my neutral reads. I'm just so scared of him every game I play. and dinner time. im sorry if what i typed doesn't make sense. i just rushed to type bcos going dinner. i will answer better later if u still have questions |
Nov 18, 2016 1:26 AM
#1997
Phraze said: @Shanashan now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate.. about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all] I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too... aa-dono said: Heh-heh-heh or maybe I'm being overly paranoid What the hell is this shading attempt on me, I did not even know Shana was a vig, if I knew they were and tried to kll me night one, I would not of been as nice to them this game. Also I still can't believe you see that grr thing as fishing, they was no way he knew Suzune would respond with that. Also chances of scum going for a 3rd party who can possibly help them over town claims is really low. |
Nov 18, 2016 1:42 AM
#1998
Shanashan said: I'm getting impatient waiting for answer lol >_> I will just tell straight out my abilities card along with my thought process in this game to help you understand where I'm coming from ..and the reason why I suspect Duos again. Remember how D1 how I was deciding between Penta/Duos? They were my first 2 scumreads based on the observations I made (going to ignore Penta in my thought process here bcos I'm believing her ability now as explained before lol) The reason of my action which I will explain below is I had the ability to kill ppl too... My abilities were direct kill + possess 1 ppl to kill.. (which is total 2 shots) N1 - I used direct kill on Jackrito (sorry Jack, you are just scary to me >_>) N2 - I used Possession on Duos to kill Reiynii (as explained before why I suspecting Reiynii + a few were suspecting her too so I pick her lol.. gomen ;--;) My thought process about Duos's claim during last few hours of D1 end of phase End of D1 - After Duos claimed and I still pretty unwilling to switch my vote and asking Duos more about his ability: #572 - I asked this bcos my 2-shot ability allow me to kill during Night phase #591 - I was unsure whether to believe him bcos I know I had the ability , but when Duos claimed then it means the game have 2 ppl having vig shot in the same game?!?! #598 - I was unwilling to switch but then I don't want to vote grrr bcos grrr was just inactive that time and neutral read for me.. and I voted Penta bcos she was my 2nd suspect and I misunderstood the meaning of her fortune card ..my bad ;--; .. but after spamming f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 it seems like ppl were believing Duos's claim and I was already pretty panic that time bcos I'm inexperience with balance of a game so I just switched to Penta last minute out of panic. >_> #614 - Then I asked Duos again about his ability bcos it looks very powerful. (mine already can kill 2, then he said his one can kill 2-3), but then Duos never answered me and Fo called me role fishing so I stopped lol.. How I convinced myself about Duos's claim After N1 ended with no kill: 1) I know I used my kill on Jackrito (sorry Jack) , but a message saying "No effect" was returned to me. 2) Assuming mafia had used their night kill, but nobody was killed. ^ the 2 points above made me think this game have a few players with protective ability. Also, when nobody was really questioning about Duos's ability, so I just auto convinced myself that when a game has a few players with protective ability = a game should have kill ability too. So I just tell myself alrighty~ it is pretty normal for Duos to have same ability with me or else the game will move like snail~ Also I kind of explained this in #1877 , #1881 when Jack questioned me about my thought process. Jackrito said: Not sure why a lack of night kill makes it more likely for town to have a kill, it should be less if anything if town can stop kills, I really don't get this thought pattern. Also, Jack's question here made me start to think hmmm.. is the theory I came up with myself above wrong? but Jack didn't reply me after that so I didn't really think much after that. Assuming no reply = my theory is correct in some sense? (bcos Jack is kind of like a lecturer in game so when I see him no reply, I just assume he kinda agree with it idk..) Reason why I start to suspect about Duos's claim again Come back to Reiynii, .. I kill her bcos she is in most ppl's suspect list (Also, I kill her while expecting the kill to fail actually..) The way how the kill go thru and she flips Town made my thought process goes %@# haywire. The theory I came up with about ability to kill which I mentioned above starts to break. "when a game has a few players with protective ability = a game should have kill ability too. So I just tell myself alright, it is pretty normal for Duos to have same ability with me or else the game will move like snail~" Reason why the theory I thought of start to break Seeing how my kill on Reiynii to be success - made me think the protective ability on players aren't as much as I imagined this game to have. So the theory I came up with kind of just scattered into pieces.. which means now, there is actually not much people with protective ability = there shouldn't be that much ability to kill available in this game(?) The question I asked the host about abilities card When I got my card I was so shocked and asked aa-dono a few questions: 1) When my card will expire? - "aa-dono replied it could get stolen / run away on its own." My reaction was I was too scared to tell ppl I have this card bcos I scare it would get stolen lol... 2) Also, I asked if after using up my abilities will the card be recycled into the thread? - "aa-dono replied yes and the card may be thrown back to the game" So the point no.2 : if after I used up my ability, my card might be thrown back to the game, doesn't that makes it even weirder for this game to have 2 abilities card to kill? If you understand what I mean~.. My conclusion is I think Duos is lying about himself having ability card to kill. Not sure about his ability to check Sun cards tho, but that is not the topic here anyways Vote: Duos Can I ask why you tried to kill me on night one if your scum reads were Penta and Duos, You say here you did not believe Duos at all so why keep them alive, even grr would of been a good option since they should of died already. Picking someone who you have no negative read on makes little sense. I'm just lucky my skill pulled through. |
Nov 18, 2016 1:45 AM
#1999
Duos said: grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be? If it is not Grr who is it then. Pick two people that are left. |
Nov 18, 2016 1:51 AM
#2000
Duos said: Doughkey said: Duos said: Shanashan said: Duos said: Please keep in mind that I am not a Vigilante. I am an Arsonist. When I target someone at night, they do not die that same phase. They slowly burn and die at the end of the next phase. But both our result will make the person die / no effect. which means both are killer card. (they are almost the same in some way) I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive. Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real. I don't think this game is broken. There are many ways to counter kills and at least one has been mentioned; PentaFlare's roleblocking ability. If up to now I've been getting double votes and investigative buffs, I don't doubt the addition of fortune cards that can interfere with kills. Everything you have just said here equals a broken game, they needs to be a fair balance between teams, if they are ways to stop kills, town should not be getting scum hunting buffs as well and have more killing roles. If town has high protection a host will give a scum team higher killing potential to swing balance back be this straight up strongman kills, or delayed kills and your arson ablity fits firmly in that area. |
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