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Nov 17, 2016 8:21 PM

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Shanashan said:
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Please keep in mind that I am not a Vigilante. I am an Arsonist. When I target someone at night, they do not die that same phase. They slowly burn and die at the end of the next phase.

But both our result will make the person die / no effect.

which means both are killer card.

(they are almost the same in some way)


I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive.
Nov 17, 2016 8:24 PM

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Feeling bad now. I don't know anymore.. -__-

Gonna wait to see what others have to say about the possibility :(
Nov 17, 2016 8:26 PM

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Duos said:
Shanashan said:

But both our result will make the person die / no effect.

which means both are killer card.

(they are almost the same in some way)


I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive.


Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real.
Nov 17, 2016 8:28 PM

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Shanashan said:
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This game is whack, I wouldn't be surprised. Duos seems irrational enough to vig kill Reiynii last night- checks out for me. I do not think there would be 2 vigs so the real vig should have countered Duos if it really was fake. With no counter in sight I will choose to believe Duos. While scary to have him as Vig atleast it isn't Grr.

I was the one who possess Duos to kill Reiynii lol >_>


Why did you choose me anyway? You can't simply possess me and kill someone, then use your actions as evidence that I am lying.
Nov 17, 2016 8:30 PM

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Shanashan said:
Feeling bad now. I don't know anymore.. -__-

Gonna wait to see what others have to say about the possibility :(


Whenever you feel bad about your play in mafia always remember my run in Lord of The Rings Mafia that Pyro hosted. Got subbed in 15 minutes before phase change - I was Frodo, I was a hider who held the ring and was probably the most important role. Pyro tells me I need to submit my action in the next 15 minutes so I skim through the game at mach speed and decide to hide behind Jack. Jack got shot and I was taken down with him. I was in the game for 25 minutes before ruining town. I had 2 posts, one saying hello, another stating I would catch all the scum by next phase.
Nov 17, 2016 8:36 PM

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Doughkey said:
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I don't understand what that has to do with anything. You are forgetting that this is a Role Madness game. There is no such thing as anything excessive.


Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real.


I don't think this game is broken. There are many ways to counter kills and at least one has been mentioned; PentaFlare's roleblocking ability. If up to now I've been getting double votes and investigative buffs, I don't doubt the addition of fortune cards that can interfere with kills.
Nov 17, 2016 8:41 PM

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Duos said:
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I was the one who possess Duos to kill Reiynii lol >_>


Why did you choose me anyway? You can't simply possess me and kill someone, then use your actions as evidence that I am lying.

Bcos Fo said his ability can block card effects and other ppl mentioned about protective ability and shit.

I choose Reiynii bcos many scumreading her and I also suspecting her. (but I did it on her expecting it to fail seeing how my kill on Jack failed and N1 kill failed)

I choose you bcos at that time I was believing that your claim was real, so I was afraid if I pick someone else (that have similar ability to Fo), then my card effect would have failed to kill Reiynii.

Also after Jack asked me about this , it makes me suspect my theory I made up earlier in the game a little. So I just thought I can possess you to make a kill while testing if you have another ability that you are hiding.

But I was really expecting the kill to fail to be very the superb honest -_-
Then when the kill goes thru, it caused the theory I made on 2 ppl having same killing abilities earlier on to crack....

just my own thought process.. and a very newbie kind so i hope you can understand what i mean.. but then it doesn't have to make sense to you since it is just my own thought process that i came up with..
Nov 17, 2016 8:52 PM

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I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential.

When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time.

I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim.

The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything.

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Nov 17, 2016 8:56 PM

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Duos said:
I'm conflicted. My vote from yesterday resulted on Ruu being a card captor.


I don't understand what you were trying to say, can you explain please? I know I'm town but I want to know how did your vote confirm that.
Nov 17, 2016 8:58 PM

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You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does.
Nov 17, 2016 8:59 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Okay that is a moon card too.

I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky.


Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice...
Nov 17, 2016 9:01 PM

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Ruu said:
Duos said:
I'm conflicted. My vote from yesterday resulted on Ruu being a card captor.


I don't understand what you were trying to say, can you explain please? I know I'm town but I want to know how did your vote confirm that.


Day 2 I was allowed to learn what faction a lynch candidate belonged to. When I voted for you I broadened up the list, and you ended up being the lucky winner.
Nov 17, 2016 9:04 PM

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Ruu said:
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Okay that is a moon card too.

I caught you hording moon cards. That was very sneaky.


Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice...
Nope, it was for Coro. See what they would do. They had two moon cards and I took them. The Voice for example is a sun card. So I would not have been able to take it.

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Nov 17, 2016 9:08 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential.

When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time.

I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim.

The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything.

I understand your passage but I don't get is that supposed to relate to my question about Duos's card? o_O

If yes, I don't really know how to connect the case you gave to Duos's case >_>
Nov 17, 2016 9:13 PM

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Shanashan said:
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I want to bounce and idea off of you. It will make the game harder to figure to but I think it will provide perspective. Now that I have two clow cards, I will weight in on what i would have done if I was mafia in order to get you to understand the potential.

When we were playing final fantasy mafia, my limit break was to commute. So when I needed a fake claim, since poisoning people is not exactly townie, I framed it around the limit break and that is how I chose Larsa as my fake claim. Now if I wanted a fake claim in this game, I would build it around my card. The card is easy to make the answer and the possibility because you just extrapolate an ability that sounds like the card or if my card was terrible I would only build it on my personal ability. This gives you the ability to both tell the truth and lie at the same time.

I am holding both of Coro's cards. THE ILLUSION is obviously a bad choice to build a role around because of the obvious mafia element of it of falsifying information, plus since Suzune outted the ability of it day phase 2. So you have to build around THE JUMP. However, until recently it was really unknown how that works. Therefore, it is the easy one to use for a true/ yet false claim.

The problem is not that people are claiming abilities that they do not have. It is that they are probably only claiming half abilities because that protects them. It gives the mafia a safe claim without having to really do anything.

I understand your passage but I don't get is that supposed to relate to my question about Duos's card? o_O

If yes, I don't really know how to connect the case you gave to Duos's case >_>
It was not directed at you directly. It was more of a comment. I noticed above someone was talking about the kind of abilities that had been claimed. It made me realize that way you claimed versus what you might actually have it the divide here. In other words, I want to open a closed door on the idea that people who claimed are more likely townie or that their abilities are somehow confirmed when you can half them.

Sorry, it was inserted into the conversation at the wrong point.

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Nov 17, 2016 9:16 PM

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grrr Ruu, Doughkey, coromandel, Jackrito, Phraze
Duos Shanashan

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Nov 17, 2016 9:23 PM

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grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be?
Nov 17, 2016 9:24 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
Ruu said:


Suzu are you talking to me? I told you before the cards I had :/ the glow, the sand, the voice...
Nope, it was for Coro. See what they would do. They had two moon cards and I took them. The Voice for example is a sun card. So I would not have been able to take it.


Ah okay ^^
I want to say that I will not change my vote because I just reread my fortune and it says that if I have doubts something bad will happen (o_o)

[s]@aa-dono can we have a vote count please? (≧∇≦)[\s]
Nov 17, 2016 9:25 PM

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Duos said:
You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does.


It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this.
Nov 17, 2016 9:28 PM

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Ruu said:
Suzune-chan said:
Nope, it was for Coro. See what they would do. They had two moon cards and I took them. The Voice for example is a sun card. So I would not have been able to take it.


Ah okay ^^
I want to say that I will not change my vote because I just reread my fortune and it says that if I have doubts something bad will happen (o_o)

[s]@aa-dono can we have a vote count please? (≧∇≦)[\s]
My fortune says that actions based on rationality and courage will gain me supporters. But actionsmade in haste will attract enemies. So I kind of see it as reading a fortune cookie, mine inspires me to look back and reflect.

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Nov 17, 2016 9:30 PM

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Duos said:
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You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does.


It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this.
I would say 80% of the time in anime possession is abad thing. But it is that other twenty percent thet gets you. Usually anime have a counter weight, if one possession is bad there is usually a good one. So what's the balance in card captors.

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Nov 17, 2016 9:30 PM

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Duos said:
grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be?


Rinto was the same xD
Poor rei we didn't believe her and now she is dead D:
We should be careful because rei was really scummy and she ended up being cc
We need to reevaluate our reads I think
Nov 17, 2016 9:32 PM

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Ruu said:
Duos said:
grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be?


Rinto was the same xD
Poor rei we didn't believe her and now she is dead D:
We should be careful because rei was really scummy and she ended up being cc
We need to reevaluate our reads I think
I do not feel like I would have ever voted rei, because she seemed townie to me, especially early game.

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Nov 17, 2016 9:34 PM

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100% confirmed
Suzune-chan

90% confirmed
PentaFlare

80% confirmed
Fo, Doughkey

70% confirmed
Karote

60% confirmed
Ruu

50.000001% (abit confused)
Duos, Phraze

49.99% (unsure)
coromandel

Possible based on POE >_>?
grrr, Jackrito/someone else
Nov 17, 2016 9:37 PM

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I don't know where to put Jackrito every time I play lol..
Nov 17, 2016 9:40 PM

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@shanashan Karote and I confirmed each other through my fortune card so why Am I 60% T^T
Nov 17, 2016 9:41 PM

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Duos said:
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You know, I actually believe the possession thing. I remember I got a PM earlier saying that I wasn't feeling like myself. At first it didn't make sense but now it does.


It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this.

I actually hinted my card name or even my character if you have knowledge of what card in CCS has the ability of direct kill/ possession lol.

I just couldn't help typing everything out bcos feeling very confused >_>
Nov 17, 2016 9:42 PM

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My phone is dying and I don't have my pc with me so... Night night everyone !!!!
Nov 17, 2016 9:43 PM

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Ruu said:
@shanashan Karote and I confirmed each other through my fortune card so why Am I 60% T^T

xD i dunno..

I put Karote in higher percentage based on how Rinto was keep going after Karote by saying Karote is hiding behind the shade of Fo's claim earlier in the game. That makes me feel Karote shouldn't be scumbuddy of Rinto.

Then Karote helped confirm you so I put you in lower percentage lol
Nov 17, 2016 9:45 PM

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Shanashan said:
Duos said:


It's kind of weird though. Possession makes me think of evil demons and killing more so. I need to think about this.

I actually hinted my card name or even my character if you have knowledge of what card in CCS has the ability of direct kill/ possession lol.

I just couldn't help typing everything out bcos feeling very confused >_>


I will look into it when I wake up in a couple of hours
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now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate..
about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all]

I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too...
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Heh-heh-heh

or maybe I'm being overly paranoid
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oh yes and....
I can confirm Doki is town, followed by Ruu and Karote for having the fortune in play. if anyone wants to throw doubt on them..sheesh lynch me first
Nov 17, 2016 9:54 PM

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I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other.
Nov 17, 2016 9:57 PM

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now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate..
about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all]

I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too...
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Heh-heh-heh

or maybe I'm being overly paranoid

lol guess so.. after you mentioned me posting fluff and i started thinking that night then it is possible bcos i was too eager to find scums > town compared to other game i played lol

Based on the interaction I posted earlier on about Rinto, it just felt grrr is town lol.. but after Reiynii flipped town it made me want to reconsider everything..

As for Jack for the "lol at the possible scum slip", I didn't think much about it when he said that, but after Reiynii flipped I start to think back about it a little.
But then I would have kill Reiynii even without Jack's post about that ,bcos I was suspecting her since D1 ended ;--; plus all the attention she is getting for scumread ;--; I would never want to get the ability to kill anymore

Suzune declared her immunity to NK on D2, so I don't really think Suzune is the NK1 target >_>
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Duos said:
I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other.

From what I remembered :

Karote - Ruu
Duos - Ruu
Suzune - Doki (for The Song card)
Phraze - Doki (which just happened)
Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2)
Nov 17, 2016 10:32 PM

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Feels like the thread getting even more dead by dayssss..

tying a rope to hang myself to make this place a 100% graveyard
Nov 17, 2016 10:39 PM

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Shanashan said:
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now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate..
about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all]

I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too...

or maybe I'm being overly paranoid

lol guess so.. after you mentioned me posting fluff and i started thinking that night then it is possible bcos i was too eager to find scums > town compared to other game i played lol

Based on the interaction I posted earlier on about Rinto, it just felt grrr is town lol.. but after Reiynii flipped town it made me want to reconsider everything..

As for Jack for the "lol at the possible scum slip", I didn't think much about it when he said that, but after Reiynii flipped I start to think back about it a little.
But then I would have kill Reiynii even without Jack's post about that ,bcos I was suspecting her since D1 ended ;--; plus all the attention she is getting for scumread ;--; I would never want to get the ability to kill anymore

Suzune declared her immunity to NK on D2, so I don't really think Suzune is the NK1 target >_>

a killer's confession in-game is very emotional, esp when it's the product of betrayal, much like irl! *hits self* Jack u evil villain... uhhhh what am I saying..

Jack didn't know who was the vig, if he knew it was u then he might not have advertised. it's possible he left it out there for whoever's vig and had doubts to kill reiynii instead of grrr

Suzune said immune on D2, but it was alrdy passed N1 kill. maybe mafia wanted to know if it was a 1 time block or not.
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Shanashan said:
Duos said:
I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other.

From what I remembered :

Karote - Ruu
Duos - Ruu
Suzune - Doki (for The Song card)
Phraze - Doki (which just happened)
Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2)


I believe that someone confirmed Fo too.
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Duos said:
I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other.

+1
We need an overview.

Phraze > "Doughkey, Karote and Ruu are town"
Duos > "Ruu is town"
Karote > "Ruu is town"
PentaFlare > "Shanashan is town"
Suzune > Penta has the moon-aligned card "The Time", Coro had 2 moon-aligned cards "The Jump", "The Illusion"



Someone said he'd received pudding from Fo - who was that?

Also, no one is confirmed just because they have a sun-aligned card!
I started with a moon-aligned Card and I'm town.

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Duos said:
Shanashan said:

From what I remembered :

Karote - Ruu
Duos - Ruu
Suzune - Doki (for The Song card)
Phraze - Doki (which just happened)
Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2)


I believe that someone confirmed Fo too.

I think Doki used his ability on Fo here , but I didn't pay much attention to what it means lol. >_>
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Do you think Rinto would want Duos lynched the first day if they were scum buddies together?

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Why did you try to kill Jack during N1?

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Why are we not lynching coro?
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Do you think Rinto would want Duos lynched the first day if they were scum buddies together?

That is what I was thinking on N2 based on interactions. but I'm just very confused with Duos as explained lol :(

and then Rinto's last second vote change to grrr is weird as well and it feels like it was a bit on purpose.

and when I look back the readlist Rinto provided:
#479 - grrr, Karote, Duos
#535 - Duos, grrr, Zymf, Shinichi, Suzune

Shinichi is town, Suzune is tpr, then that left grrr, Karote, Duos, Zymf mentioned.
Karote - I want to take out Karote from the list as well, bcos Rinto was keep asking Karote about how Karote's ability work and act like attempting to discredit Karote's claim - #195 , #199 , #471

and that left grrr, Duos, Zymf
Zymf - was neutral reading him but he voted grrr to save Shinichi in #220 where Shinichi that time was showing healthy town vibe so Zymf is neutral-positive ; and Phraze replaced in so don't really feel like saying much yet >_>

And then not sure why Rinto would mention Duos and grrr twice in his readlist. >_>
Also, Rinto's vote process here:
#24 Shinichi (RVS) -> Unvote -> #573 Duos -> #578 Unvote -> #590 Duos -> #608 (wanted to vote grrr but then phase had changed) -> #1316 Penta -> #1575 grrr -> #1677 Coro
Duos and grrr are also the one that stands out the most >_>
Seriously I don't know what I'm talking. I need to buy a lie detector *check wallet* *oh no nvm I have walls* *head slam*

I just feel Duos and grrr stand out alot in Rinto's interaction and stand out until Fo and you and someone else(?) including me thinking either one or both Duos and grrr might be town. And when my reads on Reiynii failed, I just figured I should start to rethink what I believed in.. *slam wall*
Nov 18, 2016 1:20 AM

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Duos said:
I'd like to see a list of confirms. Everyone is confirming each other.

From what I remembered :

Karote - Ruu
Duos - Ruu
Suzune - Doki (for The Song card)
Phraze - Doki (which just happened)
Me - Penta (bcos I get the message of getting checked on D2)


This is where one of my key issues with this game is coming, from this much confirmation on roles on day 3 is actually insane and broken beyond belief. Let me add in how characters are easy to claim because game is semi open and roles are connected by flavor. Add that with scum seeming to lack confirmed fake claim based off Rinto's failure. This can not be right and they must be some lies in there no host should make it that easy.

Add that with Shana having 2 night kills as town and Duos also having multiple t klld hat ruins the balance even more, I understand that a lot of us seem to have some counter to been killed. But they is far too many it would be nearly impossible for scum to make a kill. All this info makes no sense this is rolemadness but they needs to be a certain level of balance. Going to game mod a bit here but I feel a need to I know the two people who approved this and I can not see it been this protown.

Maybe I'm been mad here but I can't be the only one thinking this, one of the people confirmed must be scum and one of Duos or Shana seems likely, I would lean more towards Duos since Penta cop checked Shana and got town back. I can't see scum having 2 godfather roles.

I need to look at things again because none of this makes sense, so someone has to be lying here,
Nov 18, 2016 1:24 AM

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@Shanashan

Why did you try to kill Jack during N1?

I actually TRIED to do a vote count analysis on D1 and I feel that Jack and Reiynii 's votes stand out the most. So I just pick both of them on N1 and then aa-dono told me I can only pick 1 ability at 1 time lol..

I knowwww I was just rushing to scumread and pick the two bcos my last 2 games dead too fast so I just rush myself to do as much as I can but I actually survive quite long this game which made me kind of surprised myself lmaooo. I think in long run I'm going to be so dead bcos I threw too much shit and made too many mistakes by rushing myself doing shits early game lol..

But then Jack is still in my neutral reads. I'm just so scared of him every game I play.

and dinner time. im sorry if what i typed doesn't make sense. i just rushed to type bcos going dinner. i will answer better later if u still have questions
Nov 18, 2016 1:26 AM

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@Shanashan
now I see where things add up. acting like fluff cuz u got a killer ability xD I told u the game won't be that rigged. u didn't believe me and tested a kill... grrr was the best vig candidate..
about ur confusion, ppl usually bluff their claims as more offensive than it usually is. common knowledge for selfdefense lol. I have my doubts about Duos tho, for him to be targeting Suzune [lynching tpr doesn't help us at all]

I'm starting to suspect Jack... he was the one who pointed the 'scum slip' for u to vig reiynii. also said grrr must've been trolling.. and grrr asking Suzune to be NK'd did achieve the result of knowing that NK won't work on her. means I'm pretty sure Suzune was NK1 target. grrr fished out the info, and Jack protected him, besides giving the vig a target. it makes this sentence have sense too...
aa-dono said:
Heh-heh-heh

or maybe I'm being overly paranoid


What the hell is this shading attempt on me, I did not even know Shana was a vig, if I knew they were and tried to kll me night one, I would not of been as nice to them this game. Also I still can't believe you see that grr thing as fishing, they was no way he knew Suzune would respond with that. Also chances of scum going for a 3rd party who can possibly help them over town claims is really low.
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Can I ask why you tried to kill me on night one if your scum reads were Penta and Duos, You say here you did not believe Duos at all so why keep them alive, even grr would of been a good option since they should of died already. Picking someone who you have no negative read on makes little sense. I'm just lucky my skill pulled through.
Nov 18, 2016 1:45 AM

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Duos said:
grrr seems too easy. If grrr were to be Clow's Judgement, where would his pal be?


If it is not Grr who is it then. Pick two people that are left.
Nov 18, 2016 1:51 AM

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Duos said:
Doughkey said:


Role madness should still be balanced. Cody and I spent months and thousands of exchanged messages to balance UAS2 with its 30 unique power roles. Saying a game is role madness does not give it a pass to be broken. Mafia Society has Game Managers for a reason as well, between the two of you there are, what, 6 town kill shots? That's whack. But from everything else witnessed in this game I am defeated in saying your claim is probably real.


I don't think this game is broken. There are many ways to counter kills and at least one has been mentioned; PentaFlare's roleblocking ability. If up to now I've been getting double votes and investigative buffs, I don't doubt the addition of fortune cards that can interfere with kills.


Everything you have just said here equals a broken game, they needs to be a fair balance between teams, if they are ways to stop kills, town should not be getting scum hunting buffs as well and have more killing roles. If town has high protection a host will give a scum team higher killing potential to swing balance back be this straight up strongman kills, or delayed kills and your arson ablity fits firmly in that area.
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