Jackrito said: People leaving Ruu slot is probably the same reason you do too. It's a waste of Day 2 to just focus on her. But well you answered it yourself.Not sure why everyone is leaving Ruu slot alone the moment still pretty sure they are scum but don't plan to waste a day here. Dono in my view is passing through this game at the moment with no actual scum hunting , but just commenting on the game with light jabs at scum reads with no real commitment their day one vote was weak. Not blaming them for lynch because not on but if I knew I was not going to be on I would vote a strong scum read. Thier one on Lucian does not appear strong. Also today they have listed possible scum but not tried to engage any of them which is pretty bad so. vote: aa-Dono Others are also guilty of this but starting here. I know they are busy but I need more here I was a passive player before active. It's really just based on... nothing really. Haha, I'm not sure myself. Sometimes, I like to engage, sometimes, I like to observe. If I can collect reads like this, it's still fine by me. It's true, I have listed possible scum. CP's dead. I asked a question to logic which he did not answer yet, and I didn't check till now. If he wants he can answer it, if not, my suspicions stay. :/ I don't think I did not engage you in a conversation. I did not talk to Penta today though. I have no clue what to ask him. He seems helpful, I like it. I'm just not getting the townvibe from the helpfulness Day 1. |
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Ruu said: Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! I disagree with ur case on lamb completely, tho i am ok with the fact ur scum reading people from gut feeling just dont expect us to follow you for that reason alone |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Jackrito said: "Targeting someone once Will Roleblock them"It is pretty clear they are a 3rd party converter not sure where you got the cop part from, Hence cop. hmm? Its a tpr converter im prettty sure, that win condition is tpr. |
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Coelestin said: Logic340, Grapefruit Lamby, Jack grrr, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco PentaFlare, Carrot, Shinichi-kun aa-dono Ruu Carrot in Orange, and Ruu in tomato-red. I would say thats racist! |
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Qoco said: logic340 said: I was wondering the same thing thought the first few votes of this phase would go directly to Ruu. I don't trust. Ruu is baiting. lmao >_> why didnt u vote ruu |
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This the post that specifically made u do a 180 or just the collection of my night posts in general? |
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grrr said: I got pink :'(Coelestin said: Logic340, Grapefruit Lamby, Jack grrr, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco PentaFlare, Carrot, Shinichi-kun aa-dono Ruu Carrot in Orange, and Ruu in tomato-red. I would say thats racist! Green's my favourite colour though... Lime green is better. But since coel-chan did not write my name in chocolate or yellow, I guess that's she's not racist :D |
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Because I feel like that's what they want. How she's playing reminds me of when what's-her-name was a Jester. Not saying that Ruu is a Jester, but she's baiting for votes imo. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Okay I missed @Qoco posting while working on my posts. Also they apparenlty took like 45 minutes.... Uggh I'm slow Qoco: do you really think there is a jester in a game with a TPR converter? well there def no tpr SK or killing role because both would be unblanaced i think. So a jester actually makes sense or maybe an angel/survivor role. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I'll say it again, if you are town and claim or hint at it in any way other than full claiming in your first 3 posts you're doing it wrong. Thats the same thing im thinking |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Grapefruit21 said: @Oyasumi_Rosie enjoy Persona, but save some time for us or replace out. I'm tired of dead weight slots. You're great, but activity is better. So last night means nothing? if ur compare it to everyone else weight wise no, but content wise yes. |
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Qoco said: Because I feel like that's what they want. How she's playing reminds me of when what's-her-name was a Jester. Not saying that Ruu is a Jester, but she's baiting for votes imo. Idk if baiting is the right word, either way if shes jester i would rather her be lyched actually no matter what i want her lynched cause her miller claim was off. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: But that's bussing. That's taking credit by um falling? your team. Why would she make herself look bad? Or are you suggesting someone else buss Ruu? Isn't that pre-association? What makes you so sure that Ruu's scum?If you get in the mindset of scum would not do this it will cause issues in one of my other games with Ruu, Soren was on thier team and tried to lynch them day one even though Ruu was a power role. I did not see scum doing that, and it could of cost us the game until they claimed badly. Who would you of voted yesterday if not Lucian then since your read on them is not that strong and you think Ruu is town. Not sure how that point on Ruu relates to me either. As I said as well Ruu has history of not voting day one as scum I answered Grape and that was, my vote would have stayed on Lucian. But sure, in perhaps another scenario, I might vote CorruptedPurity. Once I make a vote, it stays regardless whether it's strong or not. I can't remember who asked me, but while I wavered between others, Lucian's reply remained neutral for me. Meaning only the little of his first posts seems ok, and after that nothing convinced me to remove my vote. As for the last point, I wasn't associating you with Ruu. I was saying that's my base when looking into someone. If I saw Ruu as town for making something too weird for scum, then my basis for suspecting you is that you do exactly what scum would do: move on with the flow. I remember one game where you were scum - me and Suzune had a hunch that you were but none of us could prove it because there was no contradictions, and you explained everything perfectly. But the tone is calculative and careful. While town Jack would have been more inquisitive. Since you want to find scum as town, not point scum on whatever scummy. It is a bit different from bussing, bussing is when you kill a weak member for needed town rep Soren in that had no need to it made no sense, so is a good example of scum been strange in actions. I don't get where you got pre association from when I never mentioned that. I think Ruu is scum based off their bad reads and past exp with them, maybe i'm wrong but atm it is their job to convince me otherwise. Why did you suspect CP we know they are now town but what made you scumread at the time, also voting a neu read is not a good idea it will lead to mislynchs and a town loss. I sort of get your last bit but you can't compare one person to the norm of scum each person will react in a differeant way depending on how they are. You can't say scum would not do this because maybe that person does not know what a scum should do. |
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aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: grrr? I didn't want to vote him. You? If you're that desperate, I could point scummy behaviours. Shin-chan, I also didn't want to vote him.I agree, but why Lam-b in particular? @aa-dono There were/are other options to lynch than Ruu/Lucian. And what is wrong with unvoting? Sure my case were weak, but I wouldn't lynch others because I don't read them scum. I doubted CP and Jack, but I had nothing on them except guts, hunches and some not really experience-reliable tonal read. Which was much worse than a weak read on Lucian. I think the reasons you list here are better reasons to vote someone tbh since they would make someone not neu as you saw Lucian. On this why were you ok to Vote Lucian but not others if you had reasons to I need more clarification here |
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aa-dono said: coel-chan No! Don't go there, please! This should never be! |
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aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: I wouldn't say I scumread all of them, but the ones that I'll be looking into later would be Jack, logic, and Penta. Originally there's CP, but since he's confirmed TPR, guess there's no reason to look into him now.How about your wagon mates on Lucian? Who do you feel is most likely scum outside that pool? As for Coel-chan, hnn... Something about her thought process makes me want to put her in town. But it's Coel. I'm worried I'm biased to wanting to believe she's town. But I think yes, just Jack and logic. There's something eerily unsettling about Jack's vote on Lucian, and as of now, I can't pinpoint what's that. So nope to Jack to, this is not really a question for you. Just an answer to Grape. Though this is for @logic340 what about Jack's tone that makes him town to you? Why penta tho? If anything the way he placed his vote and only changing it to prvent a tie seems totally town motivated. If anything i distrust chione vote the most on that train, so i can agree u might be a little biased or over looking something. The jack part i would normally agree on but this game im not getting that feeling which i normally get every game @jackrito he would know lol. |
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Coelestin said: Vote: Lam-B His lack of presence is becoming concerning, now that it is D2 we cannot let this slide. @Lam-B We need a read list from you or at least something similar. how so? Also how is voting him gonna make a difference? |
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aa-dono said: I don't like to explain my townreads in details, but yes, it took one post of yours to get me not to vote you. I didn't unvote because I personally dislike unvoting. And Lucian's train died when I left, so I wasn't expecting anyone to pick it up again. Though if I was there during phase change, I would still leave my vote there. Reason being that I don't think Ruu is scum, whereas even if my read on Lucian wasn't strong, it was still a read I'd follow. Perhaps that's true. I might have decide that Ruu was town before conversing with her. But from how I see it, Ruu explained things horribly. Which is something scum will not do. Contradictions is one thing, but that vote/unvote lucian and changing mind suddenly - not going with the flow is a chance that scum usually would not take. Probably the same base as to why I'm doubting Jack. Always explain your town reads, penta got lynched for townreading followind without giving us any reasons though we learned he had utside game reasons that he couldnt tell us of course. So basicaly u thought lucian was scum cause he was scum reading someone u believe who was town? So now that he flipped town what does that say about ruu's alignment? Also what do u think about her miller claim and the way she presented it? No comment on the last part your letting bad judgement take reign there. |
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aa-dono said: grrr said: Why is grapefruit scum?Ruu is town. Dont lynch Ruu. Chione and CP are good too. Lynch grapefruit! grrr is right lets lynch grapefruit well atleast pressure him i guess. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: People leaving Ruu slot is probably the same reason you do too. It's a waste of Day 2 to just focus on her. But well you answered it yourself.Not sure why everyone is leaving Ruu slot alone the moment still pretty sure they are scum but don't plan to waste a day here. Dono in my view is passing through this game at the moment with no actual scum hunting , but just commenting on the game with light jabs at scum reads with no real commitment their day one vote was weak. Not blaming them for lynch because not on but if I knew I was not going to be on I would vote a strong scum read. Thier one on Lucian does not appear strong. Also today they have listed possible scum but not tried to engage any of them which is pretty bad so. vote: aa-Dono Others are also guilty of this but starting here. I know they are busy but I need more here I was a passive player before active. It's really just based on... nothing really. Haha, I'm not sure myself. Sometimes, I like to engage, sometimes, I like to observe. If I can collect reads like this, it's still fine by me. It's true, I have listed possible scum. CP's dead. I asked a question to logic which he did not answer yet, and I didn't check till now. If he wants he can answer it, if not, my suspicions stay. :/ I don't think I did not engage you in a conversation. I did not talk to Penta today though. I have no clue what to ask him. He seems helpful, I like it. I'm just not getting the townvibe from the helpfulness Day 1. Some people are not doing a lot though is why I asked the first part, but fair point I guess. I just don't want another lurking scum win had too many of them lately. That is a playstyle choice and I have fell into the trap of scumreading you off this before. They are a lot more people in the game then them, your posts just come off as though you don't want to hunt scum but just look, are you even voting atm? |
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logic340 said: I'm sorry I took that opportunity away from you :( yes you did u town murderer :'( you killed best town |
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Karote said: You ask others opinions but I never see you coming forward and suggesting someone. Yesterday too you sheeped both times, on Ruu and Lucian saying ''I can get behind this.'' Vote: Jackrito I remember you saying you would leave Lucian alone until Day 3 because then you can tell their alignment, why did you suddenly decide Lucian over Ruu? oh shit i honestly forgot about that line Gonna keep reading the thread to see how jack responded |
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Jackrito said: Once Chione made their case late on it convinced me that my reasons were very much valid and it was a better choice then Ruu who could just be been a bad town. I said before the vote change I was happy with either but went with my gut. Nope what reasons? Chione didn't convince me at all she did a complete 180 suggested lucian as a lynch so how ere you ok with that. Also you keep stating that you shouldnt let emotions or other stuff cloud judgement yet you keep bringing up that ruu might be bad town. Well now that your gut was wrong who do u suspect on the train? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: Why is grapefruit scum? grrr is right lets lynch grapefruit well atleast pressure him i guess. I would agree from day one, I think Grape has been better today though and actual scumhunting, I was not getting that vibe day one. They are reasons for this one is he was busy, and another been that he rolled scum and was not sure how to approunch day one. I'm sort of neu/town atm but it is not a strong read they are others a lot worse atm. |
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Grapefruit21 said: grrr said: Sounds good to me. Okay I will say yes. That is my claim! Not the straightest answer but close enough for, die scum die. Vote: grrr i cant tell if ur being sarcastic here or not. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I've never killed DenjaX before so that isn't true....lol. logic340 said: I'm sorry I took that opportunity away from you :( yes you did u town murderer :'( you killed best town Shinichi-Kun said: Do I have to do another ISO defending a town read? He reasons weren't just "I can get behind that" as Karote would lead you to believe Shinichi. Karote has done very little and the only reason I am not scum reading him is because this is the way he has always played as town but I find his style detrimental to town which is why I picked at it so much when I was scum in Alcatraz.Karote said: You ask others opinions but I never see you coming forward and suggesting someone. Yesterday too you sheeped both times, on Ruu and Lucian saying ''I can get behind this.'' Vote: Jackrito I remember you saying you would leave Lucian alone until Day 3 because then you can tell their alignment, why did you suddenly decide Lucian over Ruu? oh shit i honestly forgot about that line Gonna keep reading the thread to see how jack responded |
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Grapefruit21 said: @jackrito do you not think Ruu is scum either? Starting your post scratching your head at others ignoring ruu and then voting dono (which is a vote I can get behind) is strange. This what im confused aout some posts he defends her while others he sugegsts we need to lycn her |
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Jackrito said: Because you compared it to a buss scenario. At least I thought it was, so the only way you'd compare it to that was if you knew she was bussing someone, or the other way around. But alright, if that's not what you meant, then sure, my thinking might be flawed on that case. And yeah, it's their job to convince you otherwise, so eh, I'm done talking about why Ruu is not scum.aa-dono said: But that's bussing. That's taking credit by um falling? your team. Why would she make herself look bad? Or are you suggesting someone else buss Ruu? Isn't that pre-association? What makes you so sure that Ruu's scum? I answered Grape and that was, my vote would have stayed on Lucian. But sure, in perhaps another scenario, I might vote CorruptedPurity. Once I make a vote, it stays regardless whether it's strong or not. I can't remember who asked me, but while I wavered between others, Lucian's reply remained neutral for me. Meaning only the little of his first posts seems ok, and after that nothing convinced me to remove my vote. As for the last point, I wasn't associating you with Ruu. I was saying that's my base when looking into someone. If I saw Ruu as town for making something too weird for scum, then my basis for suspecting you is that you do exactly what scum would do: move on with the flow. I remember one game where you were scum - me and Suzune had a hunch that you were but none of us could prove it because there was no contradictions, and you explained everything perfectly. But the tone is calculative and careful. While town Jack would have been more inquisitive. Since you want to find scum as town, not point scum on whatever scummy. It is a bit different from bussing, bussing is when you kill a weak member for needed town rep Soren in that had no need to it made no sense, so is a good example of scum been strange in actions. I don't get where you got pre association from when I never mentioned that. I think Ruu is scum based off their bad reads and past exp with them, maybe i'm wrong but atm it is their job to convince me otherwise. Why did you suspect CP we know they are now town but what made you scumread at the time, also voting a neu read is not a good idea it will lead to mislynchs and a town loss. I sort of get your last bit but you can't compare one person to the norm of scum each person will react in a differeant way depending on how they are. You can't say scum would not do this because maybe that person does not know what a scum should do. I don't trust his tone. It's that weak of a reason that's why I don't pursue it compared to Lucian. I did scumread Lucian. I tried to understand their thought process, but what I get from the subsequent replies were neutral. It doesn't mean my view of him turned neutral. It meant that none of his replies to me changed my opinion of him. Neutral is right now, when I think you/logic could be scum but my vote is not on either because I haven't actually get a reply from logic, and I can't decide if your conversation with me is to read me, or if you've already peg me as scum. The first would indicate that you're town, while the second is scummy. Exactly because she's Ruu that I doubt she'll play a bad scum game. Sure, I probably can't catch her as good as logic or Soren, but she's not a bad scum. |
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logic340 said: What about what Penta said about counters to scum Ascetic though? Is it possible that grrr is actually town here and Lam0B is the scum? possible |
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logic340 said: logic340 said: Also couldn't he be lying as town? Kind of like him in Alcatraz or Claire in Kitty mafia?What about what Penta said about counters to scum Ascetic though? Is it possible that grrr is actually town here and Lam0B is the scum? has he ever lied about his role as scum? Seems like he only makes up roles or claims early as town. |
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PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: There goes any town cred i had on you lol, why wont someone for no reason on day 2 It's not entirely without reason. I didn't want grrr sitting on a vote that was just kind of out there and doing nothing. The options to ensure that doesn't happen are to pressure him to change or to join him so his vote is a leading trains and will create discussion. I chose the latter. Makes sense but why not post that with ur vote that would have competely changed my view point of your vote. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Once Chione made their case late on it convinced me that my reasons were very much valid and it was a better choice then Ruu who could just be been a bad town. I said before the vote change I was happy with either but went with my gut. Nope what reasons? Chione didn't convince me at all she did a complete 180 suggested lucian as a lynch so how ere you ok with that. Also you keep stating that you shouldnt let emotions or other stuff cloud judgement yet you keep bringing up that ruu might be bad town. Well now that your gut was wrong who do u suspect on the train? The reasons that a lot of Lucians posts were commentary/fluff and looked like forced scum hunting, these are the things I notice most when Lucian is scum. I talked to Penta about those reasons early day one. I was always ok with Lucian as a lynch I started the push but then backed off once I did he was very subpar as a player and it looked to me he was trying to go under the radar. I don't understand this next part that stuff is what is making me try to redo my read on Ruu, they are not helping their case though. I already gave you my thoughts on the train the person I suspect most atm is Dono. I can't make my mind up on Logic atm they are both good and bad things he has done but his emotion like I said before just comes off as annoyed townie and paranoid. I know you don't like Chione atm but I still do something about thier approach and play is making me say town, yes they led the mislynch on Lucian but the reasons for it made sense to me so I refuse to scum read off that since town can mislynch. I do like Penta as well but I need a bit more from him a lot of his play atm is coming off a bit passive this whole grr nurse thing is throwing me as well. Penta can be a tricky scum so I'm weary here. I need a Ruu flip to be sure since he has a history of not bussing. He is still one of my better town reads I just need a bit more scum hunting |
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Shinichi-Kun said: From my experience with him as scum he did not claim early. He waited until late and claimed Vanilla. As town I have seen him claim early 2 times out of 3 town games. I don't know enough about roles and what now what are your thoughts on Jack/Penta's conversation about multiple backup roles?logic340 said: Also couldn't he be lying as town? Kind of like him in Alcatraz or Claire in Kitty mafia? has he ever lied about his role as scum? Seems like he only makes up roles or claims early as town. @aa-dono did you tag me or quote me in a post I missed somewhere? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Grapefruit21 said: @jackrito do you not think Ruu is scum either? Starting your post scratching your head at others ignoring ruu and then voting dono (which is a vote I can get behind) is strange. This what im confused aout some posts he defends her while others he sugegsts we need to lycn her Where have I ever defended them just because I say they could be bad town it does not mean I want them to live. I'm just worried of mislynching by been biased you saw my last game with Reynii. I'm worried about doing that again. If I can't get a better read Ruu is dying today, I would of preferred a vig shot. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I guess I should be explicit: Grrr claimed a town backup role. We have mod confirmed proof of a different sort of back up role. That seems to make grrrs claim fake. And given he claimed protective that leads me to believe he's scum here. how do we know lucian wasnt the doctor and grrr is the backup that got his role? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I explain when necessary. What's the point of telling everyone why grape is town to me when he's not on the verge of lynch? And so when you lynch Penta for withholding information, did you catch scum? You would know better than me that it's not an indicator. If I have a good scumread, I'll share it because I would want my scumread lynched. Not the same case with townreads.aa-dono said: I don't like to explain my townreads in details, but yes, it took one post of yours to get me not to vote you. I didn't unvote because I personally dislike unvoting. And Lucian's train died when I left, so I wasn't expecting anyone to pick it up again. Though if I was there during phase change, I would still leave my vote there. Reason being that I don't think Ruu is scum, whereas even if my read on Lucian wasn't strong, it was still a read I'd follow. Perhaps that's true. I might have decide that Ruu was town before conversing with her. But from how I see it, Ruu explained things horribly. Which is something scum will not do. Contradictions is one thing, but that vote/unvote lucian and changing mind suddenly - not going with the flow is a chance that scum usually would not take. Probably the same base as to why I'm doubting Jack. Always explain your town reads, penta got lynched for townreading followind without giving us any reasons though we learned he had utside game reasons that he couldnt tell us of course. So basicaly u thought lucian was scum cause he was scum reading someone u believe who was town? So now that he flipped town what does that say about ruu's alignment? Also what do u think about her miller claim and the way she presented it? No comment on the last part your letting bad judgement take reign there. No, I thought Lucian was scum from the way he focused on grrr. If I was to scumread someone based on their disagreement with me, that'll be a lot of scum :O Him flipping town says nothing about Ruu's alignment. But yeah, that miller claim was bad. But well, you know where I stand on the matter. :/ Alright. |
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logic340 said: Yessu I did.Shinichi-Kun said: From my experience with him as scum he did not claim early. He waited until late and claimed Vanilla. As town I have seen him claim early 2 times out of 3 town games. I don't know enough about roles and what now what are your thoughts on Jack/Penta's conversation about multiple backup roles?has he ever lied about his role as scum? Seems like he only makes up roles or claims early as town. @aa-dono did you tag me or quote me in a post I missed somewhere? "Though this is for @logic340 what about Jack's tone that makes him town to you?" |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: Because you compared it to a buss scenario. At least I thought it was, so the only way you'd compare it to that was if you knew she was bussing someone, or the other way around. But alright, if that's not what you meant, then sure, my thinking might be flawed on that case. And yeah, it's their job to convince you otherwise, so eh, I'm done talking about why Ruu is not scum.It is a bit different from bussing, bussing is when you kill a weak member for needed town rep Soren in that had no need to it made no sense, so is a good example of scum been strange in actions. I don't get where you got pre association from when I never mentioned that. I think Ruu is scum based off their bad reads and past exp with them, maybe i'm wrong but atm it is their job to convince me otherwise. Why did you suspect CP we know they are now town but what made you scumread at the time, also voting a neu read is not a good idea it will lead to mislynchs and a town loss. I sort of get your last bit but you can't compare one person to the norm of scum each person will react in a differeant way depending on how they are. You can't say scum would not do this because maybe that person does not know what a scum should do. I don't trust his tone. It's that weak of a reason that's why I don't pursue it compared to Lucian. I did scumread Lucian. I tried to understand their thought process, but what I get from the subsequent replies were neutral. It doesn't mean my view of him turned neutral. It meant that none of his replies to me changed my opinion of him. Neutral is right now, when I think you/logic could be scum but my vote is not on either because I haven't actually get a reply from logic, and I can't decide if your conversation with me is to read me, or if you've already peg me as scum. The first would indicate that you're town, while the second is scummy. Exactly because she's Ruu that I doubt she'll play a bad scum game. Sure, I probably can't catch her as good as logic or Soren, but she's not a bad scum. Ok my bad on that I see what you mean now, it was more a example of me thinking someone is town off unscummy actions. I can see how it came off as bussing. On Lucian sort of get it but not a normal approach to it, I cant hang you for that though. On last part it is a bit of both I think you are scumish, but it is more because i have not had a strong interaction with you and I know the best way to get it is this. I wanted a more solid view of your game state views. The reasons I have issues is that you seem to only pick certain people and leave others alone. If you think me or Logic are bad by all means vote, it is not bad we don't win unless we vote anyway so don't worry about it. Her last scum game was not the best I think she changed her scum game a bit lately. |
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logic340 said: I've never killed DenjaX before so that isn't true....lol. Shinichi-Kun said: Do I have to do another ISO defending a town read? He reasons weren't just "I can get behind that" as Karote would lead you to believe Shinichi. Karote has done very little and the only reason I am not scum reading him is because this is the way he has always played as town but I find his style detrimental to town which is why I picked at it so much when I was scum in Alcatraz.oh shit i honestly forgot about that line Gonna keep reading the thread to see how jack responded well picking at that is just fine but if u want me to actually vote him i need a solid case not meta reasons lol. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: @Coelestin Not gonna quote that huge post and try to find the stuff just on me lol 2nd vote is prob the worst one out of all my votes ill agree. But the rest of my votes are fine i explained all of them. Also the biggest reason for me unvoting ruu was cause i was not gonna be here for phase change but ya come at me if u think im scum, i love when people get the strange idea that im scum when i play so townlike atleast i thought i did. This last line is a red flag why are you self aware of trying to play townie. That is not a normal town way of thinking it should be natural. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Grapefruit21 said: I guess I should be explicit: Grrr claimed a town backup role. We have mod confirmed proof of a different sort of back up role. That seems to make grrrs claim fake. And given he claimed protective that leads me to believe he's scum here. how do we know lucian wasnt the doctor and grrr is the backup that got his role? Because he said nurse, inheritor sounded like it would of took any role nurse can only take Doc |
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Jackrito said: Because he said nurse, inheritor sounded like it would of took any role nurse can only take Doc Actually I take this back, I'm reading too much into the story, it would make no sense in a bastard game to give a role hint in story it is a chance the role is fake or has a different name and actually was the nurse. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Nope what reasons? Chione didn't convince me at all she did a complete 180 suggested lucian as a lynch so how ere you ok with that. Also you keep stating that you shouldnt let emotions or other stuff cloud judgement yet you keep bringing up that ruu might be bad town. Well now that your gut was wrong who do u suspect on the train? The reasons that a lot of Lucians posts were commentary/fluff and looked like forced scum hunting, these are the things I notice most when Lucian is scum. I talked to Penta about those reasons early day one. I was always ok with Lucian as a lynch I started the push but then backed off once I did he was very subpar as a player and it looked to me he was trying to go under the radar. I don't understand this next part that stuff is what is making me try to redo my read on Ruu, they are not helping their case though. I already gave you my thoughts on the train the person I suspect most atm is Dono. I can't make my mind up on Logic atm they are both good and bad things he has done but his emotion like I said before just comes off as annoyed townie and paranoid. I know you don't like Chione atm but I still do something about thier approach and play is making me say town, yes they led the mislynch on Lucian but the reasons for it made sense to me so I refuse to scum read off that since town can mislynch. I do like Penta as well but I need a bit more from him a lot of his play atm is coming off a bit passive this whole grr nurse thing is throwing me as well. Penta can be a tricky scum so I'm weary here. I need a Ruu flip to be sure since he has a history of not bussing. He is still one of my better town reads I just need a bit more scum hunting I dont understand that tho cause thats normally what lucian does either way tho ur basically stating u voted him cause his meta was different. I must be misinterpeting your posts on ruu because some suggest ur defending her while other are suggesting to lycn her. Dono vote should be one of the least suspect since it was on him all phase and she was gone during the last 5 hours of the phase change. Lucian train lit on fire during the last 2 hours. Your vote seemed more like a sheep once u realized it was posible to get a train going on lucian. While chione dropped her strongest read out of emotion to target someone who i still feel like wasnt doing anything scummy. Scum can mislynch too just saying. Penta is still one of my town reads and yes ive noticed his passiveness. I still think grrr is prob the real doctor who inherited lucian role and is just playing games with us. |
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| Being active, yet don't dare to place a vote: Logic340, Shinichi-Kun, Ruu, Aa-dono, |
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