| Here are some remedies I can think of. 1. Re-read your favorite NTR-free hentai. 2. Read more manga that fall under your favorite genres. For my part, harem manga are always hilarious and soothing. I have a long, long plan-to-read list that never seems to run out of stock. XD 3. Try to discover great artists who never or rarely came up with an NTR plot. For your reference, my favorite hentai artists are as follows. http://myanimelist.net/people/15043/Myuuto_Akatsuki http://myanimelist.net/people/13665/Arsenal http://myanimelist.net/people/12481/Aruchu_Kizuki http://myanimelist.net/people/15023/Saburou http://myanimelist.net/people/10907/TakayaKi Also several precautions are available. 1. Avoid NTR-oriented authors such as Linda, Jin, Yuzuki N', etc. 2. Avoid reading on-going (unfinished) manga. 3. Before starting to read a manga series, remember to check out "Categories" section on corresponding mangaupdates.com entry and make sure Netorare/Adultery is not there. |
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| Read vanilla hentai. Bosshi and Homonculus. Bosshi got some doujinshi animated. Mizugi Kanojo and Ojou-sama h ga suki. I would say NTR and Vanilla is but one coin. You can never have both. |
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leesan said: Bosshi and Homonculus. Homonculus's art is awesome. I am quite impressed by his color drawings. |
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zanetu said: Here are some remedies I can think of. 1. Re-read your favorite NTR-free hentai. 2. Read more manga that fall under your favorite genres. For my part, harem manga are always hilarious and soothing. I have a long, long plan-to-read list that never seems to run out of stock. XD 3. Try to discover great artists who never or rarely came up with an NTR plot. For your reference, my favorite hentai artists are as follows. http://myanimelist.net/people/15043/Myuuto_Akatsuki http://myanimelist.net/people/13665/Arsenal http://myanimelist.net/people/12481/Aruchu_Kizuki http://myanimelist.net/people/15023/Saburou http://myanimelist.net/people/10907/TakayaKi Also several precautions are available. 1. Avoid NTR-oriented authors such as Linda, Jin, Yuzuki N', etc. 2. Avoid reading on-going (unfinished) manga. 3. Before starting to read a manga series, remember to check out "Categories" section on corresponding mangaupdates.com entry and make sure Netorare/Adultery is not there. That's a pretty good remedy, but I think the best thing to do is to imagine a different outcome. It's kind of sad, but it works, most of the time. Won't work for Tachibana though, for the same reasons Convolvolus described. I've been getting over it, and I did it by just reading Tachibana so many times that I just feel numb to it now.... oh god, what have you done to me MTSP ;( |
jhl9027 said: That's a pretty good remedy, but I think the best thing to do is to imagine a different outcome. It's kind of sad, but it works, most of the time. Won't work for Tachibana though, for the same reasons Convolvolus described. I've been getting over it, and I did it by just reading Tachibana so many times that I just feel numb to it now.... oh god, what have you done to me MTSP ;( Actually I sort of feel numb to NTR too, but not because I've read NTR stuff so many times. Instead, NTR is all the same sh*t insofar as I see it. Most NTR stories appear stupid to me and do not make sense. What is the typical NTR paradigm? A boy and a girl fell in love with each other. The boy never slept with girl. (Man do you really love the girl? What's the point in dating her?) A bad guy jumped in and f**ked the girl. (Isn't there any law against rape or blackmail?) The girl did not resist or report the rape to police afterwards. (Has rape become a trivial matter nowadays?) More rapes happened, in which the girl repeatedly said "Stop it!" while relishing the rape. (Has multiple personality disorder become so prevalent these days?) The girl finally became a slut but still did not sleep with the boy. (Doesn't a slut sleep with anyone?) The boy found out the cheating but did not break up with the girl. (Come on, is that girl the only female in the world?) The bad guy was prone to f**k the girl in front of the boy, or keep sending photos/videotapes/DVDs to the boy. (Does the bad guy earn a lot of money by doing so? Are photos/videotapes/DVDs free of charge anyway?) I understand the needs of those masochists but refuse to watch/read stuff that does not make sense to me. |
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| Go Get A GirlFriend/Boyfriend >_> JK Lol Read Something That Makes You Feel Like You're The One Raping Someone O_O Or Read Vanilla Stuff |
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nohbody1968 said: I've only seen the raw, so I can't say for sure , but 2nd installment of Koukai Benjo The Animation appears be a good NTR cure Personally the plot and character development of Koukai Benjo altogether appear pretty stupid and loathsome. Hence I don't really care if the bond between the two lovers remains (certainly in a strange way) at the end of the story. lol I admit the ending is a deviation from common NTR stuff, though. |
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CeeKay said: I dont know but I actually enjoyed watching my first netorare but the odd thing is I enjoyed it not because its hentai but by the tragedy that takes place right in front of me. I enjoyed watching Here and there now and then, saikano, jigoki shoujo and such but this is something else totally twisted. idk why but I thrive in the feeling depression I dont know if this is normal but this is something that I cant talk aboit in public. I have to warn you that you have gone off-topic. Besides, it appears you failed to comprehend Rule #1 of this club: No favorable opinion pertaining to NTR. (i.e. You enjoyed watching NTR.) Since you are new to this club I will refrain from deleting your 1st post. Please be sure to obey club rules from now on. |
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CeeKay said: I dont know but I actually enjoyed watching my first netorare but the odd thing is I enjoyed it not because its hentai but by the tragedy that takes place right in front of me. I enjoyed watching Here and there now and then, saikano, jigoki shoujo and such but this is something else totally twisted. idk why but I thrive in the feeling depression I dont know if this is normal but this is something that I cant talk aboit in public. I have to agree with Zanetu. Netorare is just revolting no matter how you look at it. There are two types of tragedies in the anime world, the artistic tragedy, where it is like Romeo x Juliet or Code Geass. For a hentai tragedy, The Duchess of Busty Mounds has some artistic sense for a tragedy. It wasn’t Netorare, and the way the protagonist handled things in the end, in a fit of reasonable rage, was somewhat artistic due to how betrayal was involved. Of course, I wouldn't go so deep when it comes to tragedies, School Days is one of the tragedies I would like to avoid as there is no decent chain reaction to fill the hole. Then comes the tragedy of Netorare, and other plots similar, which is the rather tastelessly tragedy that gives me the feeling to barf at such a disgusting plot, such as Unsweet: Netorare Ochita Onna-tachi , Teacher’s Hell (manga), Otome Dori. and Kumikyoku Mitsunyuu. Seeing the villain prevails in such a disgusting fashion, I would want to re-watch the ending of Rape Rape Rape, where In the words of Sasori when he talks to Deidara, that is not art. Something that is short lived love as it blows up in some sort of sick ending to give viewers such an uneasy feeling, that is just some sort of garbage. True art in a hentai anime is when the two lovers were able to overcome everything and finally get together. Being able to freely love each other after putting down any obstacle, that is true art- the concept is again Public Toilet and Witchcraft [Yamatogawa]. Which is why how I came up with my concept of a “devil’s contract” whenever I see such a distasteful ending. After all such an unruly and tasteless plot twist, such as the one in Tachibana-san's Circumstances With a Man, gives me this feeling.  However, there are times when I read some plots that have some taste, for example if they broaden the background of the rapist, such as Sinful Mother and Suna no Kusari, then I would like it due to how it is an artistic tragic to see such tormented kids who would later find happiness with their victim/lover; making it a very untypical NTR plot. nohbody1968 said: However, the details put into the execution of the concept make the difference between banality (Koukai) and tragedy (Kimi no Na). Banality definition- Something that is trite, obvious, or predictable; a commonplace. I had to look up that word to make sure I get your point. But anyway, I wouldn’t mind some banality, especially in a Netorare plot where it is rare for the protagonist to actually prevails unlike the tasteless route of a bad ending in most Netorare plots. Oh, and I watched that Kimi no No wo Yobeba anime, and Here is my personal thoughts whenever I would meet a Netorare author my chance.  |
greed2Aug 3, 2013 1:04 AM
greed2 said: just a quick note, anyone seen the Freezing manga? I was just wondering if that is considered an NTR subplot. If so, can anyone think of something similar to Freezing, in the non-hentai world, of course it doesn't have to be a situation where the "rapist" gets to be reformed, he can be killed by the protagonist. Freezing is not NTR by definition (i.e. not involving sexual intercourse) and is therefore not related to this topic. (I did deem it something similar to NTR and gave it a score of 1, though.) Sure there are series similar to Freezing in the non-hentai world, such as "Btooom!", which I'd call "Borderline-NTR". Yet for my part, I will not turn in favor of such a non-hentai series even if the "rapist" ends up being reformed or killed. |
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| I have punching bags in my room for when I need to release stress, also a few dumbells. Makes me want to murder all rapist out there. |
| Why don't you guys just avoid watching NTR period? Seriously, stop watching it and raging and then hating the fact you watched it. WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST STOP WATCHING IT?! It's like im the only person who likes watching NTR surrounded by people who hate it...Yet they keep watching it. YOUR ALL SICK! xD |
| In hentai, you can see anything... chicks with d*cks, angels,demons,snake girls,unfaithful wives, pregnancies and even crossdressers... the list goes on, pal. You name it. Why you would want to see a heartwarming romance in your porn is beyond me. |
| lol. Yeah read a vanilla hentai or something |
| Cures for NTR Trauma? Some suggestions here. There are all unorthodox though. 1) Many things (scenarios or people or whatever) have their opposites. For example, the opposite of getting a demotion at work is getting a promotion at work. Wouldn't you agree that a recent promotion would totally negate the depression of getting demoted previously? So if you were traumatized by a particular NTR, look for its opposite number in the hentai world. I recently watched a mortifying one called Yama Hime no Mi, which contained two stories about mothers betraying the sacred bond between mother and son while having sex with their lovers. In the first story, the mother declared she didn't love her son anymore because she loved her master more. In the second one, the motehr declared that she would prefer her son leave the house so she could have more sex with his school friend. Anyway, back to what I was saying, Yama Hime stories have their opposite number. It is called Enjo Kosai. In that series, the mother loved her son so much that she tried to get him in bed. She succeeded with her friend's cooperation. Basically her friend got him so horny that he could only turn to his own mother. So yeah, instead of the mother giving up her family, this one is about the mother getting closer (wink-wink) to her family (i.e. the son). If you get off on that, you will probably forget about the mother-son NTR you just watched. In general, I find femdom hentai to be arousing. That's one of my fetishes. And I feel they counter the NTR mortifying factor because in femdom hentai, the heroine usually wants the male protagonist to be near her. Maybe not in a vanilla kind of romantic relationship, but at least the poor guy doesn't get tossed away and forgotten while she gets on with other guys. 2) There's also a fine piece of mainstream anti-NTR scene in a book written by a writer called Karen Marie Moning. Not hentai or erotica. Mainstream urban fantasy but with some good sex scenes. After her mind was broken via rape-by-faeries, turning into the kind of NTR heroine we read about, the heroine was rescued by the tough male protagonist who basically screwed her back to sanity. Read that and impose that scenario on the NTR hentai that mortified you. It is one of the Darkfever series or whatever the name is. Can't remember now. 3) I think discussing the NTR genre in a rational manner would help. You just have to find the right words to exorcise your inner demons. They call this catharsis. I use that method whenever I feel too angry or depressed. This is probably a good place to explain why a lot of guys find NTR mortifying. Because the "love affairs" are always destructive. The villains dominate and are never properly grateful for the sex. And this attitude somehow devalues us. Because a lot of guys I know never get laid all that often and when they do, it's a huge deal. Dinner. Gifts. Treating the lady like a Lady and all that. And then, let's face it, she doesn't orgasm like a hentai heroine. Maybe she smiles and says "thanks for a good time" and you are properly grateful for the experience. You would do anything to experience that again. You also know the sex is mainly for YOUR benefit so you thank her, in your heart if not out loud. Then suddenly you see this guy getting the woman without having to do all that AND to add salt to open injuries, the Major Jerk isn't even properly grateful! The sex which caused you to experience heights of ecstasy you never experienced before and which was so emotionally overwhelming for you isn't affecting him at all! Remember your favorite childhood hero? Maybe it's Bruce Lee. Maybe it's Chuck Norris. Now imagine your hero stepping up to the arena only to be batted around like a human fly by some lazy jackass college jock you always hated. Imagine the anguish at seeing your hero defeated and multiply that by a thousand and you are not even close to the anguish of seeing your princess figure being degraded like that. AND. AND. The tables are suddenly turned. The princess of your heart, the one you spent so much effort on, suddenly starts reaching orgasms she never attained while with you. So you, as a human, are diminished by proxy. Your position. Your beliefs. Everything diminished just like that. A lot of men put their women up on some metaphorical pedestal and that's certainly the case in many NTR hentai. So when the goddess figure is brought low like that, it is certainly mortifying. I am not a religious person so I can never answer the philosophical questions about what would happen if a certain major religion turns out to be false (backed by scientific evidence of course). I don't know how I would react but I know a lot of faithfuls would probably go insane. This happens on a smaller scale when some people watch NTR. A lot of otaku certainly believe in pure love so loving a woman is almost like a religious experience. That goddess image is projected onto the NTR heroines sometimes and when they are brought low, it has almost the same effect as when worshippers of a faith see their idols brought low and diminished. |
| Oh yeah, it also helps to put things within context. A lot of guys out there probably never had sex and even less guys took part in BDSM sessions. So the words uttered by the heroine in the throes of sex are especially mortifying to them. You know, like "Oh yes, I love you more than my husband!" or "If you command me, I will leave my family" and so on. But if you put that within the context of BDSM role-playing, it isn't especially so. I have been to a couple of BDSM sessions and nastier things get said. And they are just words. That's understood by both parties. For example, I was having sex with one lady from China who knew acupuncture and she included that in our sex. I won't give details here but it was so good that I said "Please marry me. Let me introduce you to my parents! Let us go right now to register!" And she said "Haha, I think your parents will disown you if you introduced an experienced prostitute like me as your wife." And I was like "But I love you!" Then I came (i.e. orgasmed) and she was like "There, now you no longer want to marry me, right?" And I just grinned sheepishly at her. There. Nobody should take "pillow talk" seriously. Especially when spoken during hard core sex. If you look at real word NTR cases, you might feel better. For example, with regards to the Yama Hime no Mi scenario, a similar incident did take place for real. A secondary school teacher was having sex with her student who was supposedly the same age as her kid. But she felt guilt later on and tried to break off the relationship but the student lover threatened to kill her so she made the police report. Of course she lost her job and was sentenced to prison for statutory rape. That's real. Hentai is not. That's not to say there aren't women out there who would willingly throw away everything to be with their lovers, but look at the cases where the women confessed and tried to salvage their lives to make you feel better. Also, I am sure all of you would at least know real world girls who are highly "popular". Do they ever stay with just one alpha male? No, they have multiple partners. Why cheat if they are not going to go all the way? They move around. They move forward to greener pastures that are also bigger and longer. So console yourself with that scenario. That the cheating heroine in the NTR you just watched will just move around and perhaps return to her nest some day. That should make you feel slightly better when you imagine the major jackass in the NTR hentai losing his place as the exclusive lover. Putting things into context... hmm... How many of you talked to actual porn stars? I was email buddy with one (not going to mention her name here) who did exclusively black on white porn. You know, the whole black guys have bigger dicks thingy. I asked her if she especially enjoyed her work because in her movies, she was always a cheating submissive slut. She laughed about it and told me that, actually, some of her co-stars (the ones playing the dominant alphas) were really shy on the set and she found it funny. That's the reality, not the scenes she did in her movies. Then of course, having kept up with porn gossips, I really don't think those actresses starring as submissive cheating sluts really are real live slaves to their co-stars. If we follow NTR logic, women who have repeated sex with strangers end up enjoying sex way too much. But having been with prostitutes, I really don't think so. There are many in the industry who would just rush you through the routine. That's just work to them and they really don't look like they enjoy it so much, like in those NTR hentai. One veteran in the industry told me she can't feel anything now in that area of her body. She's been thoroughly desensitized after years on the job. She even tried the vibrators some of her regular clients got her. Nothing. No feeling. Don't feel too bad for her. She had her own happy ending. When she returned to her home country, she bought a plot of land and built an apartment complex there. She's now a land lady who owns every single unit of that building. But yeah, she doesn't enjoy sex at all. If we follow NTR logic, she's supposed in the worst circumstances by now, enjoying sex with too many strangers in the worst conditions, but that's not the case. |
| My cure for ntr trauma is yūwaku hentai which is a fan hentai genre that rivals ntr and sometimes yūwaku can make fun and/or causes ntr plots to fail. (the second girl exposes the cheating girlfriend to the MC and then she seduces him to make the MC forget all about the slut) Yūwaku focuses on the MC getting seduced or stolen by another girl. |
hentaisoulbrothaApr 21, 2015 1:07 PM
| Good character art and design is good but it doesn't get you very far if the rest of the hentai is pure crap. |
BloodLustyQQ said: daichisama said: Not to be a bitch greed.... Just cause two say i love you at the end of a work doesn't make all the things that happened ok, when i see this in any work of ANYTHING, i scowl at the naivety of it. specifically ntr, like honestly how much does her love confession mean to you when she is coverd in cum, filled with cum in her ass and pussy....? Like fucking ewww, and let it be known, it was willingly. That's NtR. If anything greed, it makes guys look weak. Can't protect their girls and no will to fight.... And for gods sanity, don't get me started how it make girls look.. Hell i'd shoot myself if there are any fellow women who like NtR, i would so buy a shotgun abd blow my brains out. I have agreed with you....why do people make it? Because they're sick! And should rot in hell! They made NTR for the sadist to be happy, in fact if you think about it NTR is a sadist hentai for sick people who find pleasure in watching other people suffer. I don't get it at all, and this is why I made a new genre to counter NTR. |
hentaisoulbrothaMay 17, 2015 1:49 PM
| Good character art and design is good but it doesn't get you very far if the rest of the hentai is pure crap. |
BloodLustyQQ said: shadowdiva said: Why don't you guys just avoid watching NTR period? Seriously, stop watching it and raging and then hating the fact you watched it. WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST STOP WATCHING IT?! It's like im the only person who likes watching NTR surrounded by people who hate it...Yet they keep watching it. YOUR ALL SICK! xD Well some people accidently click on one of these shit books and this happens! Exactly blood, I don't know why these NTR fans assume too much. IT'S NOT LIKE ALL THESE SITES WILL INFORM YOU THAT WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING IS A NTR HENTAI. Some sites like redtube and some others try to mask it by putting stupid titles instead of the name of hentai as well as they leave the tags either blank or they'll only put down hentai. I should know cause that's how I got suckered into watching a ntr hentai without even noticing. @Sadowdive Get your fact straight before you call anybody a sick person especially when we didn't ask to see this crap nor are looking for it even till this very day. |
hentaisoulbrothaMay 17, 2015 2:46 PM
| Good character art and design is good but it doesn't get you very far if the rest of the hentai is pure crap. |
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