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Jan 3, 2023 6:29 AM
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The story begins with Nick, an experienced adventurer whose party is led by his mentor and father-figure Argus. Following the completion of their latest job, Nick discovers a chunk of the money has gone missing and realizes one of the party members is the culprit. To his surprise, Argus forgives the member and instead expels Nick after being accused of also embezzling funds.

One night after several weeks in a downward spiral, Nick ends up in a local tavern where fate leads him to meeting three fellow adventurers. After a night of drinking, the four bond over their own betrayals and their destroyed ability to trust anyone. This is when Nick hatches on the idea for the four to form a party.

Thus the story begins with a party of adventurers united in their belief that humans are bastards and desire to make some honest coin...


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Type: TV
Episodes: Unknown
Status: Not yet aired
Aired: Jan 3, 2023 to ?
Premiered: Winter 2023
Broadcast: Tuesdays at 23:00 (JST)
Producers: Pony Canyon
Licensors: None found, add some
Studios: Geek Toys
Source: Light novel
Genres: Action, Adventure, Fantasy
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Jan 3, 2023 8:30 AM
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First episode now available on Crunchyroll: LINK

Episode 1

I sure wasn't expecting that idol segment seeing that from what I'm reading, it's not an isekai.  So basically, this episode introduces the leads and how they have been betrayed by others, and they end up meeting in order to form a party.  It's an interesting concept to say the least, but given the production values and stuff, I'm not so sure about the show's prospects.  While it was a solid enough episode there, there are more than 50 shows I counted this season (a regular season these days have around 40) and I won't have room for all the shows I have interest in.
Jan 3, 2023 8:45 AM
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Ahhh I remember reading the first volume of the manga of this show, it's actually pretty funny. Character designs will take time to get used to, I kinda wished they made it as close to the manga character design.
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Jan 3, 2023 9:01 AM
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Crunchy started spinning its wheels during the OP.  Going to be one of them days it seems like.

EDIT: Finally got to watch it. It seems to be a "beer and pretzels" type show to sit back and relax and enjoy without getting deeply invested in.
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Jan 3, 2023 10:09 AM
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Thank God, the season is starting up. The dearth of anime between seasons is always brutal. Especially over the holidays. >.>

Solid start and not any glaring cliches. That OP song though, woof. So generic.

Jan 3, 2023 10:16 AM
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runec said:
The dearth of anime between seasons is always brutal. Especially over the holidays. >.>


That's the best time for catching up on the PTW backlog...and older shows! ;) I finally finished SSSS.Dynazenon and made good progress on Monogatari S2...
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Jan 3, 2023 1:18 PM
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The whole "betrayed by everyone but save everyone" style has been somewhat common over the years, but I'll give it a whirl since it is fertile ground for interesting stories. Just so long as it doesn't turn into yet another harem, I've had my fill of those for a while now.
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Jan 3, 2023 1:28 PM
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As far as I can tell from the first episode, it looks like a horribly generic but enjoyable show. It may also be a very forgettable show, but I'll stick with it.
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That was much better than I was expecting it to be.  When they started out with the cliche adventurer setting I wasn't expecting much, but the characters in this seem interesting so far.
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boldulysses said:
runec said:
The dearth of anime between seasons is always brutal. Especially over the holidays. >.>


That's the best time for catching up on the PTW backlog...and older shows!  ;)  I finally finished SSSS.Dynazenon and made good progress on Monogatari S2...
Yeah, I watched Nanana's Buried Treasure, both Seasons of Asterisk Wars, Myriad Colors Phantom Wars, Maoyu and rewatched Mushoku Tensei Part 1.  I started watching Shirobako, but my Bluray was scratched and would freeze at certain points, so waiting on a replacement .  Also played The Last of Us Part 1.

I always enjoy the time between seasons giving me the ability to work on my backlog.
Jan 3, 2023 3:17 PM

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Has some potential, but I'll keep my expectations low.

The cleric's story was pretty straightforward--though it's a stretch they'd believe an accusation like that so readily--but I'd like to see some more background on the other three.
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Jan 3, 2023 4:11 PM
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Decent, but I only see two experienced seiyuu attached (one character not introduced yet). Quality seems good.

I think I'd have preferred an in-media-res of them already together instead of chronological backstories to get a better idea of this show.
Jan 3, 2023 5:32 PM

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Solid start and not any glaring cliches. That OP song though, woof. So generic.


My thoughts exactly. In fact the whole intro section almost lost me, but when the character introductions got started, I found an interest in them. -Let's see if it gets much traction after the rest of the characters & world gets filled in, that might be tough with everything it will be competing against this season.
Jan 3, 2023 5:47 PM
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It nice to see a fantasy show that not a Isakai.

Going to stick with tihis one and see where it goes.
Jan 3, 2023 6:44 PM
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Seems OK, I'll stick around for the mage with the Sanpaku eyes, not enough female characters with that trait.
Jan 4, 2023 3:40 AM
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Well this show's teaching me new words at least.

First the main guy self identifies as a doru-ota for aidoru otaku (idol otaku), and now Menchi coming in with sanpaku-gan (white visible above, below and to the side of the iris).
Jan 4, 2023 2:18 PM
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I liked the first episode a lot, I just wish they had all woke up naked, now that would have been hilarious. 
Jan 4, 2023 4:06 PM

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I finally got around to watching the first episode and it was pretty good. The premise reminds me of Banished from a hero's party but instead of getting with a blond princess. The main character forms a party with three other people who lost all trust in people.

They had some bad experiences, but the cleric had the worst one as he was blame for something he didn't do. I just would have like to know what the last one went through? instead seems like something was stolen? Well in the end the party to defeat the demon king was formed and this could be a hidden gem.
Jan 5, 2023 6:01 AM
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What is so confusing about the show is that one minute he is in modern day Japan going to an idol show and the next he is in some other fantasy world with no modern technology. 
Jan 5, 2023 6:45 AM

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What is so confusing about the show is that one minute he is in modern day Japan going to an idol show and the next he is in some other fantasy world with no modern technology. 
This isn't an isekai and he never went to modern day Japan. This fantasy world just somehow has an idol industry and culture in it.
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Jan 5, 2023 9:23 AM
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LouieGrandie said:
What is so confusing about the show is that one minute he is in modern day Japan going to an idol show and the next he is in some other fantasy world with no modern technology. 
This isn't an isekai and he never went to modern day Japan. This fantasy world just somehow has an idol industry and culture in it.
Yes but when he goes to an idol show it is in modern metal buildings with electronics and when he is with the gang he is in a area with wooden building with no electronics.  How do the two areas exist in the same world.
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Yes but when he goes to an idol show it is in modern metal buildings with electronics and when he is with the gang he is in a area with wooden building with no electronics.  How do the two areas exist in the same world.
You already know the answer, it's because anime of course.
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Jan 10, 2023 8:29 AM

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Episode 2

And thus, the party called Survivors is formed.  This foursome wants to believe in each other unlike with humanity, but their teamwork absolutely sucks.  Case in point, Tiana and Curran aren't getting along, and even more so when Tiana acts before she thinks resulting in the party getting drenched in slime.  And then with that ogre, Curran ends up beating it by herself.  This ragtag bunch are quickly finding out just how tough being adventurers really is.
Jan 10, 2023 11:07 AM

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that "sticky Labyrinth" that they were in looked kind of like an overgrown office building...

The ED seems to indicate a silver haired loli or shota will join them. Not sure if the blue-haired idol is supposed to join too, or she's just part of the oddly modernistic ED they decided to give this...kind of like Eminence in Shadow has an OP with the seven shades in modern day Japan
Jan 10, 2023 5:12 PM

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All things considered with anime the sticky labyrinth could have been much worse.
Jan 10, 2023 5:30 PM
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The animation  may not be great.. The battle scene was very eeeh
But i'm enjoying the dynamic with the charaters and fantasy anime are few and far between these days.

I have had tabletoprpg  parties like this :)
Jan 10, 2023 6:13 PM

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The second episode was also good.

First, we have the four name their party which is survivors and then go explore a dungeon. Since the party has just been formed there are going to be problems and that is trust.
After almost hitting Curran with a magic attack Tiana has lost the trust of Curran and in order to rebuild that trust Nick tells everyone about his equipment, attacks, etc. This is huge because anyone can just exploit his weakness. However, doing this everyone does the same.

This really helps out when they fight a pack of goblins and hobgoblin as they come up with a strategy to wipe them out. Not bad but the only problems was the battle scene as the animation wasn't the best. Geek Toys has a couple titles under their belt, so I'm actually expecting better than this.
Jan 11, 2023 4:02 AM
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Okish, but boy did they jettison the initial premise fast.
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That was borderline way too much talking for this to be enjoyable.
Jan 17, 2023 8:28 AM

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Episode 3

While Nick and Tiana had their backstories explained already, Curran hasn't.  This Dragonian girl used to have a great relationship with Calios seeing that he saved her from that merchant that attempted to scam her by making her buy a damaged pendant he secretly swapped out proving that she couldn't make a scratch that small.  But then Calios would go onto betray her, and Curran decided to become a solo adventurer after meeting Fifs, who is quite famous around town.  And that led her to the guild where she ended up joining the Survivors party.  Pretty interesting backstory that was as Curran found a new purpose in life after everything that happened, and after seeing all that, it's clear that this is where she belongs.  
Jan 17, 2023 10:59 AM

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That was a pretty long con by that Calios guy...not sure he had to build so much trust with her, it seemed like she trusted him enough to go after that snake thing much earlier than they did.
Jan 17, 2023 4:31 PM

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Were they just totting her around for months hoping to find a monster powerful enough to kill her but leave them alive so they could steal her jewel?
Jan 17, 2023 6:26 PM

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Seems like they could have stolen the jewel easily without anything like this. And the fact they just left her alive is an incredible waste. The only reason to use a paralysis trap is to kill someone you have no chance of killing otherwise. But all this just to get back to the inn before her and steal something? It's weird because they singled out her backstory from the others, giving it more time and they made it make even less sense than any of the others...
Jan 17, 2023 6:57 PM
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Yeah that story made hella little sense.

You have a blindly loyal S-rank adventurer and you just want to rob her and leave her for dead for a one-time score?
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You have a blindly loyal S-rank adventurer and you just want to rob her and leave her for dead for a one-time score?


Seems like the start of a Spaghetti Western
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2 more shows before i make a final decision.
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We don't really know how long she was with that group. Look how quickly she became enamored with the other guy she ran into right after that. I could buy that she might have been with them for only a few days and was already all gaga over blondie and became sure he was the hero. If she had been with them for a while I don't think there would have been the need to reassure her so much about charging in at that snake. It also would make sense that those guys have done this kind of thing before and knew of various different types of monsters/areas that they could lure someone into depending on the skillset of the mark. And they didn't just take her stuff, they got whatever treasure the snake may have had and it's uh, parts, to sell. The most surprising thing to me is how fast they got out of that town. If they really thought she was dead there was no reason for them to take off that quickly.

Anyway, now it makes sense why she instantly became suspicious of the mage in the last episode.
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I could buy that she might have been with them for only a few days.


When she was getting scammed by the guy over the pendant, the Calios guy said something like "I always tell you to have me go shopping with you". That kind of tells me they have been together for at least a little while. Apparently they were together long enough for him to know she was an easy mark.
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Seems like they could have stolen the jewel easily without anything like this. And the fact they just left her alive is an incredible waste. The only reason to use a paralysis trap is to kill someone you have no chance of killing otherwise. But all this just to get back to the inn before her and steal something? It's weird because they singled out her backstory from the others, giving it more time and they made it make even less sense than any of the others...

They got old anime thinking, if they don't leave her alive the series dies.  Basically they needed someone as strong as her to kill the snake.  They did not think she would live but she did and now you know why she can't trust others.  
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I could buy that she might have been with them for only a few days.


When she was getting scammed by the guy over the pendant, the Calios guy said something like "I always tell you to have me go shopping with you".  That kind of tells me they have been together for at least a little while.  Apparently they were together long enough for him to know she was an easy mark.
Some people will use words like 'always' after only saying something once or twice. Plus we're dealing with a translation too. And any experienced con man could probably see she was an easy mark pretty quickly. If she followed blondie around like she did with that other guy he would have seen she was an easy mark after just a day or two. She's not very smart, she's not a good judge of character, and before getting betrayed, she was very naïve.
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Episode 4

Into the labyrinth they go, and that dungeon just looks out-of-place in a world like this seeing that this place is more like an exhibition hall in Japan than it does a dungeon in a fantasy world.  The four fight a giant liquid metal slime monster, and it's quite difficult to land a hit, and not even freezing it will do much damage.  It was tough, but in the end Nick and Curran fused and their combined form defeated that monster.  As it turns out, the legendary blade was just a replica but they still got paid, and even the new member Kizuna got some of it.  As it turns out, Kizuna is a lot older than she looks as she claims to be centuries old, but that's something for another day.  Team chemistry still needs work, but they are starting to come together as a team.
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Those two are taking being fused together into Hermaphro-Knight remarkably well.
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Surprise PowerPoint slideshow episode.
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The animation goes from okay to ugh.

But I'm enjoying the story and got a good laugh with everyone and the talking sword.

Find a magic sword? SELL IT! :)
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The animation goes from okay to ugh.

But I'm enjoying the story and got a good laugh with everyone and the talking sword.

Find a magic sword? SELL IT! :)
Think that golem sucked up the entire animation budget for the episode. There were some real rough edges.
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Those two are taking being fused together into Hermaphro-Knight remarkably well.
The look they gave each other after they separated seems to indicate they had a fun time being joined.

Also, does the ending scenes indicate they are back in a normal world?
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Been enjoying this show enough to keep watching, but to be sure I'm always a sucker for energy swords, so had to start working this one up. Should have it in my hands in the next few days.
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Episode 5

Now with Kizuna now part of the party and in need of some money that it's off to their next quest.  So Kizuna can make clones of himself, but it comes at the expense of the party's stamina, which just doesn't sit well with the party members given the way he has been using telepathy.  And after that, Nick ends up bumping into Claudine, a member of the Iron Tigers who are notorious for scamming adventurers out of their money, and Nick decides to settle their grudge.  He and Leon goes into the back alley, and after all that, it comes down to what Leon calls a Mathematical Bare Knuckle fight.  There has been quite a lot of bad blood going on, and the Iron Tigers certainly need to be taught a lesson.
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5 episodes in and we are still just getting trickles of some of their back stories, and "learning to trust again". Not sure where this is going...is this supposed to be just the back story and we never get to the actual part where they save the world?
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5 episodes in and we are still just getting trickles of some of their back stories, and "learning to trust again".  Not sure where this is going...is this supposed to be just the back story and we never get to the actual part where they save the world?
The intro in Ep 1 sounded like that. "These are the heroes who will eventually save the world," or something to that effect.

And boy, that former teacher. He raised absolutely no red flags, and I totally do not expect to see him ever again. Let alone as a villain.
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