My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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Sep 4, 2020 5:42 PM
#51
Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. |
Sep 4, 2020 5:50 PM
#52
| Does it matter whether Hachiman rejected her directly or indirectly? For me, it depends on whether Yui understood him and, according to her monologues in season 3, she very well did. How clearly does she have to hear a no to be able to accept it? Does Hachiman really have to openly admit that he loves Yukino in order to be able to reject Yui? |
Sep 4, 2020 5:52 PM
#53
YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. |
Sep 4, 2020 5:56 PM
#54
Bandulf said: Does it matter whether Hachiman rejected her directly or indirectly? For me, it depends on whether Yui understood him and, according to her monologues in season 3, she very well did. How clearly does she have to hear a no to be able to accept it? Does Hachiman really have to openly admit that he loves Yukino in order to be able to reject Yui? It super matter if it is direct or indirect. And what matter is both Yukino nor Hikki have admit they like each other, and that's what Yui want to hear from them. When they do things indirectly, she still believe she have a chance so she isn't giving up. For a girl who doesn't like to give up, Hikki have to be that direct. When you do stuff indirectly, it's call half-assing and that is not genuine at all. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:01 PM
#55
| funtoad is right, however. Hachiman doesn't have to do anything in this situation. If he and Yukino still want to take their time, you can delay it as long as you want. It's Yui who wants something here and she has to find the courage to ask Hachiman for it. As long as she doesn't do that, she can't expect anything. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:05 PM
#56
funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:16 PM
#57
YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he has a hard time getting himself to admit. |
funtoadSep 4, 2020 6:22 PM
Sep 4, 2020 6:27 PM
#58
funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:31 PM
#59
YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. The thing is is that if she knew how he felt about her, she wouldn't think that their relationship is a codependency. She would know that he helps her out not for self-satisfication, but because he loves her. That is what something genuine is, isn't it? |
Sep 4, 2020 6:39 PM
#60
funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. The thing is is that if she knew how he felt about her, she wouldn't think that their relationship is a codependency. She would know that he helps her out not for self-satisfication, but because he loves her. That is what something genuine is, isn't it? All i can say is their current relationship is not genuine at all, that's why Yukino was the one to break their current relationship and the closing of the service club so she can end their co-dependency relationship and reset it. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:45 PM
#61
| reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. |
Sep 4, 2020 6:55 PM
#62
Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:07 PM
#63
YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:09 PM
#64
YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:10 PM
#65
flamebc said: YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:12 PM
#66
flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:13 PM
#67
YYGH said: your argument that yukino knows hachiman's feelings for her is completely baseless.flamebc said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:15 PM
#68
flamebc said: YYGH said: your argument that yukino knows hachiman's feelings for her is completely baseless.flamebc said: YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. It's not an argument, it's fact. Accept it or not, just keep being in denial :) I bet even the dumbest person in the world can noticed Hachiman feeling for Yukino... it's all written in his face lol since S1. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:18 PM
#69
AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:22 PM
#70
YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:24 PM
#71
YYGH said: not for yukino, she isn't aware of his feelings for her. flamebc said: YYGH said: flamebc said: YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. It's not an argument, it's fact. Accept it or not, just keep being in denial :) I bet even the dumbest person in the world can noticed Hachiman feeling for Yukino... it's all written in his face lol since S1. it's only during his confession to her she comes to know how much she means to him, before that she had no idea. |
Sep 4, 2020 10:31 PM
#72
flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 |
Sep 4, 2020 10:33 PM
#73
flamebc said: YYGH said: not for yukino, she isn't aware of his feelings for her. flamebc said: YYGH said: your argument that yukino knows hachiman's feelings for her is completely baseless.flamebc said: YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. It's not an argument, it's fact. Accept it or not, just keep being in denial :) I bet even the dumbest person in the world can noticed Hachiman feeling for Yukino... it's all written in his face lol since S1. it's only during his confession to her she comes to know how much she means to him, before that she had no idea. If she is unaware of his feeling, then Yukino is dumb asf and just dense asf too. Whose fault is that? |
Sep 4, 2020 10:42 PM
#74
YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 |
Sep 4, 2020 10:57 PM
#75
YYGH said: hachiman should have told made his feelings clear to her. No person would go and think like, "oh yeah, that person totally like me". Especially when it's someone like yukino who has a low self-esteem. And how is it yukino's fault if she grew up without any proper parental care and love and finds it hard to comprehend emotions? Hachiman realizes his fault later on.flamebc said: YYGH said: flamebc said: YYGH said: your argument that yukino knows hachiman's feelings for her is completely baseless.flamebc said: YYGH said: this is just plain stupid. Yukino has good IQ, but that doesn't mean she has good EQ too. Yukino is emotionally stunted, she is unaware of hachiman's feelings for her.funtoad said: YYGH said: funtoad said: YYGH said: Bandulf said: YYGH said: rooru-kun said: Yui has stated that she is greedy. And I have actually seen friends during their teens knowing full well that their love interest was in love with someone else, but they stayed close by just in case they had a chance. Abusive, don't think so. But opportunist, maybe. She is human, and being greedy is perfectly normal. If anything I think both of them are abusing Yui. The both of them knows Yui feeling. Either one of them can speak up and make it clear, so that way Yui can give up completely. Yet they don't do anything, which made Yui believe she still have some hope. But sadly she don't, and it hurts me when I see a sweet girl suffer and her feeling being toy around with. That's not entirely true. Hachiman had already rejected Yui at the moment. As we have heard for the entire 3 season, Yui also knows that she has no chance. Of course, people behave like that in real life, but I would say the same to them too. The good thing about Oregairu is just how realistic it remains. In a fantasy anime, I wouldn't even discuss that. Besides, I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I just really wanted to know how other and especially Yui fans classify their behavior morally. Hikki rejected her but it's indirectly. If he said I like Yukino, thats all he have to say so let Yui move on. Because they didn't want to discuss such a big problem, it became drama. In real life, if there is an issue, you address it before it turn into a big problem. They just been avoiding this problem, and thats' why Yui was the one to say something about it while Yukino and Hikki just turn a blind eye. Well, I'm not interested in the blaming part too but someone here have been putting all the blame on Yui and she is the victim throughout the series. I'm just defending her that she is not to be put on blame. Does yui not have ANY responsibility in this situation? It sounds like to me you are making it out to be that way while I disagree. Both Yukino and Hachiman are most definitely responsible, but Yui has YET to directly confess to Hikigaya. Giving cookies to him isn't really direct, it is more indirect. She can also confess to Hikigaya and if he rejects her, she can move on and give up completely. Her suffering is valid, but at the same time it is also self-inflicted as well imo. Hikigaya has given Yui many hints of disinterest this season. For example, he tries to distance himself from Yuigahama by telling her that he'll be opposing Yukinoshita's prom on his own initially. He does this because I feel he doesn't want to lead her on, yet Yui still insists on sticking with him. All three are equally responsible in this situation. Yui should confess but why would she confess when she knew all along Hikki likes Yukino, it doesn't work that way. Have you heard of "One side love or Kata-omoi". That person never confess, so it makes no sense when Yui confess to Hikki. Yes I'm aware when she gave cookie to him, it was indirect. But Hikki is a man, a man should be direct. When girls are indirect, a man must be the one to take responsible. He knows he is the one that is dragging out this love triangle. If he was direct, none of this drama will even happen. No human being wants to self-inflicted pain to themselves. Are you an M? lol... that's just crazy talk right now... bro... when he said that to her, she asked "Hey can I help you out with opposing Yuki prom?" If he really tries to distance away from her, he can replied "NO" i don't need any help, I can manage on my own. Instead what i noticed is him having a good time with Yui, and she also helped him big time during the crappy replica prom idea. So I disagreed with you that their equally responsible. Hikki is the most responsible and second comes to Yukino, Yui is the least responsible. I'm not even being bias toward this matter. Honestly I won't even complain if you feel that Hikigaya is most to blame. But if you think about it, Yukino is in a very similar boat as Yuigahama. She has seen the two hang out with each other all season, and Hikigaya has yet to tell her how he feels about her. She has no idea that he loves her at this point and if anything, she believes that he might love Yui instead. This could explain why she decides to push Hikigaya away towards Yuigahama in the first place. I'm not sure how either girl can be the more or less responsible than the other here tbh. I think he did want to create distance from Yuigahama, but came to realize she will stick with him no matter what he did and decided to humor her request because he feels sorry and responsible for her at this point. You have to understand that Hikigaya is also a self-conscious monster. The idea that any girl like Yuigahama could even like him must be something that he can't get himself to admit. That is not true. Yukino is fully aware of Hikki feeling for her. She is a smart girl, and Hikki made it extremely obvious like staring at her for super long. Girls are very attentive when it comes to things like this, whether it's anime or irl. She pushes Hikki away from her because they are in a co-dependency. She felt that is not genuine because Hikki is wanting a genuine relationship. The more Hikki wants to help her, the more it hurts her instead. She also want to prove to her mom that she is capable thats why she don't want help from them. I don't think that is true but if what u said about him feeling sorry and responsible for Yui, then that is call pity. That's the worst thing a guy can do to a girl. So I don't think that is the case here, he just wanted company as he still trying to figure out what his wish is. As viewer we all know what his wish is. Everything is stupid to you. So I won't even bother arguing with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Done. It's not an argument, it's fact. Accept it or not, just keep being in denial :) I bet even the dumbest person in the world can noticed Hachiman feeling for Yukino... it's all written in his face lol since S1. it's only during his confession to her she comes to know how much she means to him, before that she had no idea. If she is unaware of his feeling, then Yukino is dumb asf and just dense asf too. Whose fault is that? |
Sep 5, 2020 2:34 AM
#76
AbdirahmanS said: YYGH said: AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. What is this, a Yui fan account? The show is shit in general so there is no salt here over the outcome, that's for sure. Man, he's a genius kid. We must leave him alone with his problems. |
Sep 5, 2020 3:22 AM
#77
| It was still so civilized here yesterday. I also sometimes wonder what is being discussed here. We've all seen at least the anime up to S03E09. So we know the same pictures and have heard the same words. It can really only be about interpreting them here. flamebc thanks for the quote. Hachiman's thoughts in black and white should actually clear up the matter. Just a marginal question, but why are we only discussing Yui's actions in the finale of S02? It's not like she's changed in the meantime. Your conversation with Yukino on the bench was almost worse. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:03 AM
#78
flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:12 AM
#79
return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:18 AM
#80
flamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:24 AM
#81
return30223 said: I already told you that it's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". Whether it is right or wrong, who knows. But this is definitely not one should do, because it only makes things harder for yourself and the other parties involved. And hachiman mentioned in LN that yui pretty much made puppy dog eyes and that's why he couldn't reject her help.flamebc said: return30223 said: flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:25 AM
#82
flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result |
Sep 5, 2020 6:28 AM
#83
return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: flamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result |
Sep 5, 2020 6:28 AM
#84
flamebc said: return30223 said: I already told you that it's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". Whether it is right or wrong, who knows. But this is definitely not one should do, because it only makes things harder for yourself and the other parties involved. And hachiman mentioned in LN that yui pretty much made puppy dog eyes and that's why he couldn't reject her help.flamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. Nah if your in love with someone else and want the other to leave you your not gonna be swayed by "puppy eyes". She had a determined face to join him and that showed her resolve, now if Hachiman wants her to not help then show YOUR resolve |
Sep 5, 2020 6:33 AM
#85
flamebc said: return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love |
Sep 5, 2020 6:34 AM
#86
return30223 said: isn't that exactly their problem? Hachiman loves yukino but yui is interfering and making it hard for them. Yes he should have made it clear, but hachiman can't be just an asshole and tell yui to fuck off. All of this led them to create this situation called "SNAFU"flamebc said: return30223 said: flamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. Nah if your in love with someone else and want the other to leave you your not gonna be swayed by "puppy eyes". She had a determined face to join him and that showed her resolve, now if Hachiman wants her to not help then show YOUR resolve |
Sep 5, 2020 6:36 AM
#87
return30223 said: The sole fact that something can't be helped doesn't automatically make it right.flamebc said: return30223 said: flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love |
Sep 5, 2020 6:38 AM
#88
| You have a strange understanding of how people should treat each other. If someone really behaved as you suggest, it is nothing more than harassment. In 2020 you should at least be able to accept a no. It's a saying, but not everything is allowed in love either. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:39 AM
#89
flamebc said: return30223 said: The sole fact that something can't be helped doesn't automatically make it right.flamebc said: return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love If your gonna make that argument then it's the same for Yukino. Was Yui responsible for Yukino being weak? No, so we should just brush it off like your doing with Yui being weak. It's not Yui fault shes in love so much with someone who dosent love her back just like its not Yukino's fault her life experiences made her weak. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:41 AM
#90
return30223 said: I never blamed a single person anywhere. But yui was taking advantage of yukino's weakness and that's something to condemn, even hachiman did.flamebc said: return30223 said: flamebc said: return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love If your gonna make that argument then it's the same for Yukino. Was Yui responsible for Yukino being weak? No, so we should just brush it off like your doing with Yui being weak. It's not Yui fault shes in love so much with someone who dosent love her back just like its not Yukino's fault her life experiences made her weak. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:41 AM
#91
Bandulf said: You have a strange understanding of how people should treat each other. If someone really behaved as you suggest, it is nothing more than harassment. In 2020 you should at least be able to accept a no. It's a saying, but not everything is allowed in love either. Ever heard of the word "No?". All he needs to say is for her to give up and stop tying and its over. Did he every directly tell her? No |
Sep 5, 2020 6:45 AM
#92
flamebc said: return30223 said: I never blamed a single person anywhere. But yui was taking advantage of yukino's weakness and that's something to condemn, even hachiman did.flamebc said: return30223 said: The sole fact that something can't be helped doesn't automatically make it right.flamebc said: return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love If your gonna make that argument then it's the same for Yukino. Was Yui responsible for Yukino being weak? No, so we should just brush it off like your doing with Yui being weak. It's not Yui fault shes in love so much with someone who dosent love her back just like its not Yukino's fault her life experiences made her weak. She wasnt taking advantage, Yukino got a chance and didnt take it. Well thats your opinion I guess no point in arguing further it's clear how we feel about the situation. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:47 AM
#93
flamebc said: Let it go dude, some Yui fans condition their brain to somehow compliment yui, doesnt matter if its negative or bad, they'll conditions their own brain to somehow make it a positive thing for Yui and blame everything else, there's always that one person, just let it go dude. You don't have to convince anyone, its all been said and debunked for years..return30223 said: I never blamed a single person anywhere. But yui was taking advantage of yukino's weakness and that's something to condemn, even hachiman did.flamebc said: return30223 said: The sole fact that something can't be helped doesn't automatically make it right.flamebc said: return30223 said: check my full comment. And anyway, she had her contribution in creating the problem and her suffering is self inflicted.flamebc said: return30223 said: I already have you an example. It's the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". s it right orflamebc said: return30223 said: the gentleman I was replying to was claiming that yui was absolutely faultless and it's all yukino's fault. When it's made clear that yui is not a nice girl and she is unfair, she forced yukino into giving up her feelings for hachiman and that's a fact that can't be changed. Making moves when you know that a person already loves someone else is the equivalent of "this sign won't stop me because I can't read". And hachiman basically told yui to go home on her own from now on. Though hachiman gets blame too because he could have told her honestly to not make any moves on him, but it would have come off as rude. All of them together created this messed up situation and yes, not one person in particular gets to be blamed.flamebc said: YYGH said: you claiming that it's all yukino's fault is apparently not hating but when I am providing actual evidence from LN which shows hachiman himself saying yui is an unfair girl and his hand clenching into a fist, that comes off as hating? And yukino is weak to emotional pressure, and yui is aware of that, and hachiman saw what yui was doing and that's why he stopped her. Yui was literally saying she is gonna take it all. And if yui can't confess because she know who hachiman loves, then why should yukino confess when she doesn't even know that hachiman loves her? And yui could have simply confessed and gotten herself rejected if she is that much of a good girl, but she is a coward who also can't do that because she is scared as said by herself. And yui is doing shit like pretending to be asleep on hachiman's shoulders, is inviting him to her house, and is still clinging to him even when she knows that he loves yukino and hachiman wanted to distance himself from yui and told her that she should go home on her own. Yui isn't faultless and is to blame too.flamebc said: YYGH said: hah, what? So only yukino is supposed to make a decision? Like literally no one else? Hachiman literally told yui to shut up when she was forcing Yukino to give up on her feelings for hachiman and was hurting her knowing full well that yukino is weak to emotional pressure. And yui could have confessed herself there, instead of proposing the stupid idea. And here is hachiman getting mad and thinking how yui is an unfair person.flamebc said: YYGH said: The one avoiding the problem is yui, she wants everything to remain stagnant and isn't doing literally anything. Yukino on the other hand actually made a decision that she thought was right. I know you like yui but you are simping a bit too much mate.Bandulf said: reset it? Rather, she tries to cut all connections. In her opinion, she and Hachiman are not friends and without the club there is no connection and no reason to talk to each other again. She's trying to run away from here, in my opinion. Yeah your right. As always she been avoiding problems since S2. If Yukino made a decision, there won't be a season 3. It will end on the last episode of S2. And I know your a Yui hater because your a Yukino fan. Bruh, I won't even bother with you. You think what you want, and I think what i want. Let's just keep it like that. “Yukinon, is that OK?” Yuigahama posed the question to her like a mother asking her child. Upon being asked, Yukinoshita’s shoulders trembled. “Wa ta, shi wa…” She averted her eyes to escape Yuigahama’s gaze. Even so, she was unable to give a proper response. Her thin voice faltered as she tried to craft her reply The instant I saw the state she was in, I knew it then. Ahh… this is wrong. She is wrong. Yukinoshita shouldn’t be entrusting her own future to someone else. There is no way that that can be right. Yuigahama is an unfair girl, but surely, saying such a thing can’t be right. “Even so, I…” “No.” I interjected. Its not Yui fault when Yukino is weak. That is her own damn fault. I don't know about the LN if Hachiman told Yui to shut up, but in the anime he did not say that. Yui was trying to make them more direct, and not forcing Yukino to give up her feeling. Yukino have feet right? She can stand up for her own, she have to right to say something if she felt it's not right. It is her own damn fault for not giving the cookie to hachiman. Like I said, Yui will not confess if she already knows hachiman likes yukino. Who in the world will do that? Hachiman didn't get mad, he just thought this method is not right. All Yui was doing is giving them a push, and questioning their current trio status. By questioning them, she is dealing with the problem directly, yet the two of them are just delaying and avoiding problems by being indirect. Honestly I have already said this shit like multiples time... I already told you... you believe what you want , and I believe what I want. There's nothing to even talk about. You are a Yukino fan, and I'm a Yui fan. There is really nothing to even discuss about... goodbye Mr.Hater 2020 "Yukino is weak to emotional pressure". Dosent change the fact that a chance was given to her and she didnt take it. Sorry but Yui already has little to no chance as it stands so any thing she dosent take is another step closer to losing. Also Yui dosent get any blame for not confessing, they all wanted to maintain the friendship and was scared doing so would break it. And your acting like clinging to him is a problem even if she knows he likes someone else. The fact is that the guy is in no relationship nor is he speaking up to stop, theres nothing wrong with trying to win your love over by any means is there? Hachiman wanted to distance? Assert yourself then the hell? The fact is there all to blame, they created this situation by avoiding everything and Yui stopped the standstill they were in and forced action because her chances would fade away as time goes on. Then people think "oh she should let them just take their time and slowly get together". No, shes just as responsible for getting them all close to each other and is an equally important person to their friend group, she dosent deserve to just wait and let them get together slowly she can take action if she wants. I'll agree with saying everyone is at a fault but the blame isnt to her exclusively. Again making moves on someone you know already loves someone else is not wrong. He is not in a relation ship nor is he asserting himself for her to stop. She can keep fighting if she wants. Unfair? I'd like to argue with that, she has no chances as it stands and what do people with little to no chances do? They take any chance they can get and thats exactly what Yui did and I dont blame her for that. Hachiman told Yui to go home? She asked to help afterwards and he didnt deny her so if your so against her clinging to you stop it, he didnt. And? She dosent have to give up regardless of what your saying. Just like you make the claim that Yukino is weak. Yui isnt strong enough to accept the result And? Is it her fault her love is unrequitted? Is it her fault shes in love so much to the point where it hurts her? You dont control who you love If your gonna make that argument then it's the same for Yukino. Was Yui responsible for Yukino being weak? No, so we should just brush it off like your doing with Yui being weak. It's not Yui fault shes in love so much with someone who dosent love her back just like its not Yukino's fault her life experiences made her weak. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:49 AM
#94
| He didn't have to do that directly. He tried to express himself as best he could. The only important thing is whether Yui understood him or not. As we already know from season 3, she understood him. That settles the matter. Perhaps I'm on the wrong track here as a economic law specialist, because normally I check contracts and not love affairs, but it always depends on what matters to the other person, not on the exact words you use. |
Sep 5, 2020 6:56 AM
#95
Bandulf said: He didn't have to do that directly. He tried to express himself as best he could. The only important thing is whether Yui understood him or not. As we already know from season 3, she understood him. That settles the matter. Perhaps I'm on the wrong track here as a economic law specialist, because normally I check contracts and not love affairs, but it always depends on what matters to the other person, not on the exact words you use. I dont know what kind of view you have but signs dont mean anything unless you actually be direct with it regardless of being aware or not. It's like when a girl likes you and gives you all the signs but will never make a move until you speak to her. And if you ask me Hachiman clearly knows he likes Yukino but wont tell Yui to go away? It's not that hard but clearly thats the problem they've been facing the whole series not being able to put their feelings into words |
Sep 5, 2020 7:00 AM
#96
Evmekoba said: Right, especially whem the author himslef has stated it as such, but people love arguing, if even one negative thing is said about their waifu, they'll freaking riot, jesus christ, does it even matter what they say? Sheesh, Yui isnt even a main character, its both Hachiman and Yukino, everyone from Sensei to Yui is just a lot device to make them grow, as author himself said, and then there's anime plebs trying to convince themselves that Yui is some great angel bestowed upon earth, freaking hell. Grow up..AbdirahmanS said: YYGH said: AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. What is this, a Yui fan account? The show is shit in general so there is no salt here over the outcome, that's for sure. Man, he's a genius kid. We must leave him alone with his problems. I dont want no big ass comment denying this with delusional bullshit.. |
Sep 5, 2020 7:03 AM
#97
return30223 said: People here excusing Yui by saying it had to be said to their face, where the fuck is common courtesy, is Yui really thst dumb that she has to have everything said to her face, jeez, that doesnt make Yui any more noble, to a normal person, that kind of stuff is just annoying. Understand and move on, thats what a decent person would do...Bandulf said: He didn't have to do that directly. He tried to express himself as best he could. The only important thing is whether Yui understood him or not. As we already know from season 3, she understood him. That settles the matter. Perhaps I'm on the wrong track here as a economic law specialist, because normally I check contracts and not love affairs, but it always depends on what matters to the other person, not on the exact words you use. I dont know what kind of view you have but signs dont mean anything unless you actually be direct with it regardless of being aware or not. It's like when a girl likes you and gives you all the signs but will never make a move until you speak to her. And if you ask me Hachiman clearly knows he likes Yukino but wont tell Yui to go away? It's not that hard but clearly thats the problem they've been facing the whole series not being able to put their feelings into words |
Sep 5, 2020 7:07 AM
#98
A_G_N said: Evmekoba said: Right, especially whem the author himslef has stated it as such, but people love arguing, if even one negative thing is said about their waifu, they'll freaking riot, jesus christ, does it even matter what they say? Sheesh, Yui isnt even a main character, its both Hachiman and Yukino, everyone from Sensei to Yui is just a lot device to make them grow, as author himself said, and then there's anime plebs trying to convince themselves that Yui is some great angel bestowed upon earth, freaking hell. Grow up..AbdirahmanS said: YYGH said: AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. What is this, a Yui fan account? The show is shit in general so there is no salt here over the outcome, that's for sure. Man, he's a genius kid. We must leave him alone with his problems. I dont want no big ass comment denying this with delusional bullshit.. Dude, let's never mind now. Fools are only harmful to us. They live very well themselves. I guess I'm tired of trying to prove everything. |
Sep 5, 2020 7:11 AM
#99
A_G_N said: Evmekoba said: Right, especially whem the author himslef has stated it as such, but people love arguing, if even one negative thing is said about their waifu, they'll freaking riot, jesus christ, does it even matter what they say? Sheesh, Yui isnt even a main character, its both Hachiman and Yukino, everyone from Sensei to Yui is just a lot device to make them grow, as author himself said, and then there's anime plebs trying to convince themselves that Yui is some great angel bestowed upon earth, freaking hell. Grow up..AbdirahmanS said: YYGH said: AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. What is this, a Yui fan account? The show is shit in general so there is no salt here over the outcome, that's for sure. Man, he's a genius kid. We must leave him alone with his problems. I dont want no big ass comment denying this with delusional bullshit.. Buddy I dont wanna be rude but everything your saying is exactly what Yukino fans do LOL. Every comment about Yui is rebutted from a salty Yukino fan, I dont see Yui fans ever getting mad a Yukino comments and getting into full blown arguements.. And people can interpret what they like Yui might be the secondary main character but she sill had a lot of prominence in the series so it's not wrong to sympathize with her more than the main two. I dont see anyone making her out to be a angel either their just defending because you guys are making her out to be the most evil character that ever existed. You guys are the people who probaly think Yukino is some great angel bestowed upon earth. Stop saying anyone who sympathizes yui more is automatically a simp for her when you guys are clearly simping Yukino like no tomorrow in every discussion defending her. I'm literally arguing my opinions with people because I just find it so funny how hypocritical you guys are being right now. |
Sep 5, 2020 7:16 AM
#100
Evmekoba said: A_G_N said: Evmekoba said: AbdirahmanS said: YYGH said: AbdirahmanS said: Why are you surprised, this is the same Yui that avoided him everytime they were in class as she didn't want to be seen with him. She's an annoying airheaded scumbag of a character. Yet another Yui hater, I'm not surprised. Pour more salt please. What is this, a Yui fan account? The show is shit in general so there is no salt here over the outcome, that's for sure. Man, he's a genius kid. We must leave him alone with his problems. I dont want no big ass comment denying this with delusional bullshit.. Dude, let's never mind now. Fools are only harmful to us. They live very well themselves. I guess I'm tired of trying to prove everything. Your logic is hilarious. Just because you like Yukino dosent mean people are simping for Yui if they think her actions are not wrong. Theres nothing to prove, a story is a story and opinions are opinions stop getting salty people dont feel the same way as you. If you were really tired you would just stop but clearly your salty people feel differently |
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