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Aug 19, 2017 3:25 PM
#451
Heading out will be on the road for a while. Hope to see the people in my NEI section get active. Wouldn't be surprised if there was scum hiding in there. Neutral Section is too big I will be working through that tonight. |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:25 PM
#452
Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? |
Aug 19, 2017 3:32 PM
#453
logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. |
Aug 19, 2017 3:38 PM
#454
Phraze said: I guess I will just start keeping my thoughts to myself and let you guess at why I do the things that I do.logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. |
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Aug 19, 2017 3:53 PM
#455
@logic340 You were both mafia in that game don't play around and act like you had to read her there. I still tried to get her meta for future reference XDWhat is your read on Coelestin so far? If you have trouble reading her you should work on sorting that out. my read on her is either scum or tpr, since she's too town for comfort. besides whatever I wrote in that post What do you find suspicious specifically? Is there a post you can link to help me understand where you are coming from? think I alrdy quoted that. she had no strong opinion on anyone yet switched vote to Claire few posts earlier. I'd imagine she had a good opinion on Claire to switch rvs to a real vote [edit: besides potentially agreeing with Last to vote Claire despite having no conversation with him] |
Aug 19, 2017 4:00 PM
#456
Coelestin said: ikr~Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? not sure I wanna dig up the links from 10 pages, since my internet's a pain, but the posts where he switched targets, and votes, should be proof enough (too aggressive imo) |
Aug 19, 2017 4:09 PM
#457
logic340 said: we all need to figure thought processes to win the game so no worries. meta just feels very spoilery [tho it's just a meta peeve of mine]Phraze said: I guess I will just start keeping my thoughts to myself and let you guess at why I do the things that I do.logic340 said: What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. |
Aug 19, 2017 4:13 PM
#458
Being low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. |
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Aug 19, 2017 4:29 PM
#459
lastwhisper31 said: when u come back, pls give a brief explanation of ur gameplay. I'm new to u and have a bad impression, no offense. finding fault in every little thing is suspicious behaviorBeing low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. |
Aug 19, 2017 5:08 PM
#460
Phraze said: @Phraze and @Coelestin check the spoiler below I think this it's the posts in question. Coelestin said: ikr~Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? not sure I wanna dig up the links from 10 pages, since my internet's a pain, but the posts where he switched targets, and votes, should be proof enough (too aggressive imo) logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: If you cannot talk about it because it references another on going game you probably shouldn't bring it up in the first place? Arrisu said: lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: Ya I needed a Ruu in my life to fault for it... @shotsfiredlastwhisper31 said: Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. lul trolls or not? Hm. Sorry to dissapoint but I dont understand the reference. :u lastwhisper31 said: Since Logic voted me its only fair that I vote him, he thinks I'm scum for something I did before, and I think hes scum for something he usually never does. vote: Logic |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:12 PM
#461
lastwhisper31 said: idk why everyone is making this out to be a solely meta thing when it is not! Also you might be town who is struggling due to ruling mafia so much. Either way my vote stays in an effort to make that determination. Capiche?Being low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:16 PM
#462
@_Claire_ - For reference what are your reads this phase? @LastWhisper31 - Yours as well. As of now, I feel like Chi is playing her town game. I like the way she's thinking. It feels genuine. @Coelestin - I really can't focus much with the way Claire's defense is spread out. I'm very tired today. I will further analyse her after her reads list. Also could I get your read list as well? A quick one will do. I can't seem to focus on writing heavy posts today. orz |
Aug 19, 2017 5:16 PM
#463
@Suzune-chan I hope you're enjoying your birthday weekend. Can you explain your vote in Coelestin please? @MaiTai have you posted yet? @Phraze gotta look over what you've posted recently. Out of nei into neutral. roz1roz said: how are those reads coming along?Someone pm me on discord next time the game begins. Catching up, will post reads in +- 1/2h |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:18 PM
#464
Aug 19, 2017 5:30 PM
#465
Coelestin said: @Suzune-chan.your thoughts on this.aa-dono said: Coelestin said: I don't like doing this because I already have a train on Mishu and would like to pressure him too, but... Why did Mishu's train made you think twice on pursuing your scumread? Logic is like an open book, he talks a lot. I can pressure him anytime, and I know how to do it as well, because I understand him quite well, I'd say, and I know he'll answer me. And most important of all, he already has plenty of attention. Mishu, not so much, I think. He does seem more dangerous to me in a sense that he tends to be more neutral no matter what he does, and easier slips under the radar. I would like more attentino on Mishu to be honest. Maybe I can get to it sometime when I'm done with backreading and paperwork -.- I like this post gives me the same vibes I got from your raving mathematician post and some of town Togs recent BA reads on me. |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:35 PM
#466
lastwhisper31 said: the point of me commenting was to get you to share your thoughts instead of muddling others. You said it yourself more than one perspective is good yet you still have not shared your perspective as I requested you to. You decided against that and went on a bit if a tirade and your own case against me seems to hinge on meta itself? I'm doing one thing that you've never seen me do before so I'm scum here? and could you clearly state what that one thing is for me please?logic340 said: Because she isnt? What was the point of her comment, does she scum read purity, is she not? I dont believe she ever elaborated on this, and I gave my reasons for why theres nothing wrong with have more then one perspective, regardless of who the question was directed to. What was the point of this post other then to say im mudslinging. Tbh i stated many times, that I've never seen this arguement used before, but I have a slight town read on dono because of her activity this game, but you still are slightly leaning towards scum for me. Im just trying to be more vocal this game, its not mud slinging if I feel like it means something, I mean ya I could have elaborated on it, but I didnt.lastwhisper31 said: aa-dono said: and you're trying to be like Logic, with the posts that make you sound like you're doing something. Logic will most likely answer the post too, but there's nothing wrong with two perspectives.CorruptedPurity said: ororo~ You're answering for uncle logic..Arrisu said: @logic340 - Why no RVS? Youre relatively active. Tbf the purpose of RVS is to apply pressure, promote activity and get the ball rolling. If one can accomplish that without the use of a vote, then I don't see the issue. On the other hand, if logic starts pressuring someone alot without voting them afterwards, I may find a problem with that depeding on the situation. As long as he's active and keeping the ball rolling, there's no real need to for him as an individual to participate in RVS o.O |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:39 PM
#467
@lastwhisper31 your thoughts on Labs so far please? |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:43 PM
#468
I kind of expect anyone who made a "logic was role fishing" comment to reply to #427. You guys opened this can of worms (pun intended). |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:48 PM
#469
@AbuHumaid are you caught up? If not what page are you currently on? Do you still feel Claire is scummy and if so can you elaborate on your reasoning for me. Also I asked you about Arrisu here in another post I'll requote out for you but I want an answer. |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:49 PM
#470
@Arrisu have you put out a read list somewhere? Your read on Abu and your thoughts on Coelestin and my reads on him. |
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Aug 19, 2017 5:52 PM
#471
Mishukax said: logic340 said: "Best Town" means a certain player in the MS community. Aw damn, I forgot Best Town is the nickname of that particular MS member. Well, if CP does have that card, he's either a super OP town or a super deceptive mafia. Which doesn't bring us anywhere really. Its not nice to keep information from others who might not get the reference to the flavor. Who would this "best town" be? |
Aug 19, 2017 6:00 PM
#472
Arrisu said: DenjaX aka "Best Town". I'm pretty sure Claire said it a few pages back. It was referenced in live mafia today when Purity voted "Worst Town" as a joke instead of "Best Town" or Denja.Mishukax said: logic340 said: "Best Town" means a certain player in the MS community. Aw damn, I forgot Best Town is the nickname of that particular MS member. Well, if CP does have that card, he's either a super OP town or a super deceptive mafia. Which doesn't bring us anywhere really. Its not nice to keep information from others who might not get the reference to the flavor. Who would this "best town" be? |
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Aug 19, 2017 6:00 PM
#473
logic340 said: @Arrisu have you put out a read list somewhere? Your read on Abu and your thoughts on Coelestin and my reads on him. I haven't though I plan to. I am currently rereading the thread. I can answer you quickly though: - Abu is null for me. He makes little to no discussion within the thread and so it is rather difficult for me to make any type of read on him. I don't like that he hasn't been pressuring much. - Colestin is one of my D1 town reads. I like what she says and I find myself nodding in agreement with some of her points. I get a good gut feeling on her. What about you? Regarding these two? Could you elaborate as to why you think Abu is town? |
Aug 19, 2017 6:02 PM
#474
logic340 said: Arrisu said: DenjaX aka "Best Town". I'm pretty sure Claire said it a few pages back. It was referenced in live mafia today when Purity voted "Worst Town" as a joke instead of "Best Town" or Denja.Mishukax said: logic340 said: "Best Town" means a certain player in the MS community. Aw damn, I forgot Best Town is the nickname of that particular MS member. Well, if CP does have that card, he's either a super OP town or a super deceptive mafia. Which doesn't bring us anywhere really. Its not nice to keep information from others who might not get the reference to the flavor. Who would this "best town" be? I'd like to imagine Denjax would be some kind of TPR. Perhaps a Jester given his personality. Thanks, for explaining. |
Aug 19, 2017 6:06 PM
#475
_Claire_ said: What do you mean toying with your heart? I dont toy with hearts. I guess I could say I dont like how Logic has been wishy washy about his vote? I also have the opinion that he hasnt been doing much of his own thinking. On the other hand, Awa does sound like her townplay.. probably. I havent been playing for months, it could have changed. Abu on the other hand hasnt been much helpful. I havent played with him much, but I dont think we should let him go just based on "abu never answers you, so why are you asking?" by Logic. I thought Logic knew better than that? I mean if you arent gonna just keep on asking are you gonna let Abu go? If Abu is scum should be his eziest game of his life. Could you elaborate as to why you feel as though Logic hasn't been doing "his own thinking"? Also so many contradictions here. Do you townread dono or not? |
Aug 19, 2017 6:16 PM
#477
Arrisu said: logic340 said: @Arrisu have you put out a read list somewhere? Your read on Abu and your thoughts on Coelestin and my reads on him. I haven't though I plan to. I am currently rereading the thread. I can answer you quickly though: - Abu is null for me. He makes little to no discussion within the thread and so it is rather difficult for me to make any type of read on him. I don't like that he hasn't been pressuring much. - Colestin is one of my D1 town reads. I like what she says and I find myself nodding in agreement with some of her points. I get a good gut feeling on her. What about you? Regarding these two? Could you elaborate as to why you think Abu is town? For Abu I will refer you to #423 for my thoughts. For Coelestin I am getting townie vibes I like how she seems to be trying to keep things progressing. The one thing that stands out to me is her vote on me as I stated it took me kind of by surprise followed by her move to whisper but I like her for town so far here. |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:06 PM
#478
Back to page one again time to start sorting out my neutral pile. |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:15 PM
#479
logic340 said: _Claire_ said: The funny thing about this is that whisper does this to me all the time I will find an example coming up here shortly so I will be sure to reference this post. Is whisper scummy as well for deflecting and not answering the direct questions I asked him?logic340 said: aa-dono said: LMMFAO are you for real? go find me a time where abu ever gave an answer on who we should be looking into....I will wait for this one. This is a frequent question that he is asked btw.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Is that alignment indicative, that he always deflects a qtn? Should we ignore him and not pester him just because he doesn't ever answer? Hah~! I might sound like a broken radio but can you outline precisely why youre voting Last atm? I honestly dont see why. |
Aug 19, 2017 7:19 PM
#480
logic340 said: Tingle said: aa-dono said: @AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) Logic Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? He did, however, make some solid points about the CP issue that I agree with. I’d like for him to get more into why is currently scumreading lastwhisper like he said he would. logic340 said: What did you think of whisper's post? Do you think it's talking about the player or the role? I will share my thoughts on this with you later but I think it's clear to most of us who have been playing more recently. logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Sure you can you just type it in the quick reply tab and press send. logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Lol... I cant even tell you how unreasonable this is. But you play your game. So why do you feel it's unreasonable. I never said condemn them all I just said look into them. When I scum claim later on you all should look into me as well. logic340 said: _Claire_ said: unvote:logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. logic340 said: CorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Neutral, leaning scum on this one. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? The reason why we are calling it unreasonable is because they can all be town, they can all be scum, they can all a mixed of town/scum. So the fact that just saying I am scum raises alarm in you is weird because you know its almost always fluff. Also what I am having trouble is atm why did you not just vote me, but instead say something and then vote? Where is this impulsive decisive vote that I used to see Logic town but instead youre unsure of where youre stepping and all. |
Aug 19, 2017 7:21 PM
#481
Kaitou said: Correct me if I'm wrong and stuff. I'm not Corruptive, I've already been Corrupted |
Aug 19, 2017 7:21 PM
#482
Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? |
Aug 19, 2017 7:24 PM
#483
1.3 Claire: Arrisu, Abu logic340: lastwhisper, Claire Mishukax: Labs Phraze: Mishukax Arrisu: aa-dono Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: logic340, Phraze, Coelestin Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz 1. aa-dono > Arrisu 2. Last > Claire > Logic 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 5. Tingle 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire > lastwhisper 7. Suzune-chan > Coelestin 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Colestin > Claire 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 > lastwhisper 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax > lastwhisper Mod comments: This game is half reveal upon death ~ |
Aug 19, 2017 7:26 PM
#484
lastwhisper31 said: this is host meta what makes it different from the player meta you disdain so much?AbuHumaid said: The point is there going off a previous role, where when said person was lynched, they were actually scum, but showed up as town.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a real scum |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:33 PM
#485
_Claire_ said: things change welcome back to mafia society. Get used to seeing a newer logic doesn't make me scum and my reasoning has veg better than he stated reasons before voting be instead of just jumping. I'm sharing my thoughts would you prefer keep them to myself?logic340 said: Tingle said: aa-dono said: Alright here we go.. I believe most that people have could said about these 4 has been said, but I’ll try to find some more things to nitpick on :’) Imma try and mark everything I’m saying in blue to make it more easy to tell apart. But forgive me if I forget.@AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) Logic Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? He did, however, make some solid points about the CP issue that I agree with. I’d like for him to get more into why is currently scumreading lastwhisper like he said he would. logic340 said: I’d like for his reasoning to be something else than making speculations based on previous games. Meta reading can be beneficial, but can also work against us. Nothing promises that a player will be using the same tactics again. What did you think of whisper's post? Do you think it's talking about the player or the role? I will share my thoughts on this with you later but I think it's clear to most of us who have been playing more recently. logic340 said: I don’t like this post, it’s dumb. Taking obvious joke claims serious won’t get us anywhere. I don’t have anything against him pressuring them, but do get some solid reasoning behind why you think they’re scum, outside of obvious fake scum tells.Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. logic340 said: It was early game, RVS period, jokes like that are taken less seriously than later on in the game._Claire_ said: Sure you can you just type it in the quick reply tab and press send. logic340 said: Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. Lol... I cant even tell you how unreasonable this is. But you play your game. So why do you feel it's unreasonable. I never said condemn them all I just said look into them. When I scum claim later on you all should look into me as well. logic340 said: Can you deliberately tell us why you’re voting Claire besides Arri’s reasoning? It looks like you’re jumping on a now easy train._Claire_ said: unvote:logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. logic340 said: Role fishing. CorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Neutral, leaning scum on this one. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? The reason why we are calling it unreasonable is because they can all be town, they can all be scum, they can all a mixed of town/scum. So the fact that just saying I am scum raises alarm in you is weird because you know its almost always fluff. Also what I am having trouble is atm why did you not just vote me, but instead say something and then vote? Where is this impulsive decisive vote that I used to see Logic town but instead youre unsure of where youre stepping and all. I didn't vote you because I have stronger conviction with last. I voted you because that seemed like what you wanted at the time. I can always put it back if that makes you more comfortable? |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:34 PM
#486
_Claire_ said: honestly read page 9 and 10.logic340 said: _Claire_ said: logic340 said: aa-dono said: LMMFAO are you for real? go find me a time where abu ever gave an answer on who we should be looking into....I will wait for this one. This is a frequent question that he is asked btw.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Is that alignment indicative, that he always deflects a qtn? Should we ignore him and not pester him just because he doesn't ever answer? Hah~! I might sound like a broken radio but can you outline precisely why youre voting Last atm? I honestly dont see why. |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:40 PM
#487
@_Claire_ #423 I won't keep repeating the same thing over and over again it's here in the thread 64 posts back. Can I get back to looking over my neutral reads or would you like me back in the whisper tunnel? |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:47 PM
#488
Tfw u pointed out host spelled your name wrong and they just did it again. My heart can't take this betrayal any longer. |
Aug 19, 2017 7:50 PM
#489
logic340 said: Your right it shouldnt me anything, its pretty nai tbh like you stated, but I dont see the point of stating that this has only been seen in your town games? This could be your first scum game, but who knows, Logic is being Logic, and I don't think ill be able to pressure him like he has pressured me.Arrisu said: I have not actually been mafia since I started doing this so if anything it should be a NAI to town behavior as they have only seen it come from me as town. CorruptedPurity said: lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: Yep, he doesnt join in on RVS.logic340 said: I don't feel am rvs vote is needed to get things going. Is this something you do regularly? He's just a cheap knockoff version of me. I started the whole "wont join RVS" gimmick So meta confirmed? |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:51 PM
#490
@Tingle will you at least vote your neutral/scum read? |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:53 PM
#491
@_Claire_ now that I think about it, why did you answer my response to Tingle instead of #427? |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:55 PM
#492
Phraze said: Did I really do that much omgus towards CP and Claire? I can see that coming in an arguement if your refering to me and Logic? All I did was RVS Claire, and I told her I was gunna do it. So you already read the 9 pages, and came to the consensus that my omgus posts mean I'm scum?what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 19, 2017 7:57 PM
#493
Phraze said: Can you explain to me my what you mean by bounced accusations, Im trying to poke people, and honestly Logic suspects me every game so its nothing new, but I can say I was a little heated last night and jumped the boat on that vote.@Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back |
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Aug 19, 2017 7:58 PM
#494
_Claire_ said: I might sound like a broken radio but can you outline precisely why youre voting Last atm? I honestly dont see why. Towards logic _Claire_ said: Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? Someone is being awfully defensive. Or protective? I see both of thier reasons as somewhat legit, I don't completely agree with them but I can see where they are coming from and I respect that. Claire, where are you coming from with this overprotectivenss of Last? Setting up a whiteknight? Defending a scumbuddy? |
Aug 19, 2017 8:00 PM
#495
@_Claire_ so why is ur vote on Logic a long side me, do you read him as scum or were you just trying to pressure him? @logic340, since you stated that meta wasnt you only reasoning for voting me, can you post a more detailed explanation of why you think I'm scum. @Phraze, so exactly why are you voting me, again? @Coelestin same goes for you, obviously ur vote is less biased because you've never been in a game with me, outside being the host. |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:00 PM
#496
Mishukax said: slight town vibes from thisTingle said: role fishing. No. I know what CP's role card is. Don't need to fish for it lol. Also I was definitely around in 2015, maybe I misremember you. In any case, hullo. Tingle said: I think we should look for other reasonings on why claire is scummy.. We’ve gotten pretty much all the answers we could’ve gotten from her concerning this issue. I like arri’s reasoning on why she’s voting.. I’m gonna analyze Claire’s activity again, look if I can get anything else out of it myself. I love this. It's a fair and upright look at Claire. Not getting excited about already having a lynch option on hand. Tingle said: you make it feel more and more like D1 post was about the role not the player, and that CP is just going along with it.. And it's actually quite plausible. The thing is, why would CP go along with it if he's mafia? Because if that's true then there is someone with the CP card ready to "counterclaim" and CP ends up in an awkward position. Unless he didn't realize the announcement could be referring to the role so he jumped on it quickly and now he's forced to go along with it. If he's town it makes sense for him to jump in the thread acting as a confirmed town so we can't really analyze his entrance. Plus, if he's town and he understands that the announcement might not be talking about him, he could still pretend like it's talking about him anyway since he really is town and has no reason to agree or disagree with any theory that the announcement is talking about the role card. Tingle said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me. Good catch (?) I actually agree with this. Feels weird for the host to warn the participant that his role could be affected by bastard elements when it obviously can anyway from the game presentation. But perhaps CP's role is an exception and required an additional warning because of its nature. Edit after #357: eh, that's an okay explanation from CP. I'm already tired of looking into the endless possibilities of CP's role, ugh. aa-dono said: @AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) That question is meh as heck. I'd rather you guide someone better with a more precise question instead of asking them about everyone who they haven't given an opinion of. Maybe you could ask Abu what he thinks of CP's read on Arri. Something like that. I'm picking at straws but sorry, I tend to dislike simple questions which scum can take right from their pocket. Not that I can complain if you end up with interesting results from asking that question, but anyway. Tingle said: Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? From my experience with logic, he does ask many questions, a lot of which end up becoming useless, but he always knows how to capitalize on the more important ones to form his scumreads on. I think logic is a generally outspoken player who is aggressive through his defensiveness, if that makes sense to you. Tingle said: Here they went back on the subject of fake claiming scum. This was already on page 7, and it had long passed. They were active the entire game until here. So why tackle back on that subject now? That's fair enough. I was going to sleep so I wanted to leave on a note of something that had been on my mind but not that worth mentioning, anything that could get Labs in the spotlight he probably deserves to be in. I know how this person plays, I know it's not that weird of a play from him to fake claim scum, I just want more from him, and I do expect more from him will come, but I definitely don't want him to cruise through D1 with now an unexplained vote on me and all. I tend to like players who fluff, but I'd rather put out a warning. Though I do like what he tried to do with the no-claiming stuff concerning who might have the CP rolecard. That said, Labs' playstyle can be interpreted as scummy by most people so it's a slot to be careful about. Like Shinichi, or I don't know, Karote. I'll go into detail later, maybe. |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:01 PM
#497
I did have something against Chi, but my laptop is dying (Forgot to charge overnight), so I'll charge it while eating and come back later with maybe something solid against Chi. She definitely deserves more attention than she is getting. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:05 PM
#498
I literally want to scream right now. Three people have asked me on this page for something that is on the previous page. Post #423 people. Leave logic alone for a little while please. |
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Aug 19, 2017 8:06 PM
#499
@Suzune-chan didn't notice it was ur bday. happy birthday <3 @logic340 @Phraze gotta look over what you've posted recently. Out of nei into neutral. cool ty. would most likely be active over the weekend and half asleep@Phraze and @Coelestin check the spoiler below I think this it's the posts in question. there's a post where Last switched focus from CP to Claire@_Claire_ You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? I make my own decisions. <- long time no say itI didn't outline but I can refer for u to read. or rather, just read through the whole 10 pages and try to feel the whole direction Last has been steering. there's advantages in backreading(or catching up in my case). Last is acting too carefree for town, that means he has protection of some sort, which would mean he's scum or town with some bastard powers as for reference: he hammered on CP for a long while, what he wrote when voting u(Claire) and Logic posted the one about him at #460 @Arrisu Arrisu said: ermm..ur one of my scum leans yknow. Chi should be fine since ur saying this, in my pov. next in line after Last, should he require the benefit of doubtAs of now, I feel like Chi is playing her town game. I like the way she's thinking. It feels genuine. |
Aug 19, 2017 8:08 PM
#500
logic340 said: I literally want to scream right now. Three people have asked me on this page for something that is on the previous page. Post #423 people. Leave logic alone for a little while please. If you're talking about me, I wasn't referring to you. U can tell cos I didn't ping you. I was just pointing out that Claire was referring to you, because claire seems too protective of the last slot currently. |
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