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Aug 11, 2017 12:34 PM
#151
logic340 said: It means, I had trouble understanding the exact question being asked at me and gave you a lackluster answer. Even now that you tell me the explanation, I still somehow missed that as the question being asked. It is true that a third is equally uninformed but I was not aware that was the direction the question, "am I scum for knowing too much" was going. I had thought it was more a game stance based question on uninformed vs informed?Suzune-chan said: Explain what hand waved my answer means exactly please? The explanation is that a town read isn't right when their is a neutral party who is just as uninformed as the town. I though that would make sense? I don't care how new they are asking that was a bait. I am not going to attribute it to a scum play (though there is a chance it could be it's more wine to go that route I think). So for now, neutral slight town is cool. I hope that is clear enough. @Logic340 Well to clarify it appears to be coming from someone who lacks information on who is who. So yes I clarified it myself. I wlll ask you the same question I asked suzu (not sure if she answered it?). I sort of hand waved you an answer as it is a question with no answer. It is too hard to tell whether a person actually tipped their hand to far, usually it is easier to tell when you are part of the informed minority rather then the uninformed majority. However, for myself picking up on soft hints and making the connection to a role is not my strong suit, if you want to know who spoke up strangely that is what I can tell you but I cannot know if you know too much. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:35 PM
#152
roz1roz said: Nikamara said: Lemme leave this quick breakdown with what makes me suspect those 4: roz1roz - Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? ^seems like scum slip up. and most of the time, the simplest answer is the best answer. I'm not buying this bait business AbuHumaid – Hi everyone vote: coromandel Fight me ^seems gung ho about lynching. it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think so ^seems like he is defending the scum slip RE1031 - We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. ^seems like he wants to save scum mate from lynching Suzune-chan ^just seems like he is defending the scum slip as well That is lock villa tbh. Or a very bad scum who did a good play. Edit: added words for clairty |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:37 PM
#153
Suzune-chan said: The question i asked is if you feel like my defense of Roz comes from a place of too much knowledge ie. me being scum?logic340 said: It means, I had trouble understanding the exact question being asked at me and gave you a lackluster answer. Even now that you tell me the explanation, I still somehow missed that as the question being asked. It is true that a third is equally uninformed but I was not aware that was the direction the question, "am I scum for knowing too much" was going. I had thought it was more a game stance based question on uninformed vs informed?Suzune-chan said: @Logic340 Well to clarify it appears to be coming from someone who lacks information on who is who. So yes I clarified it myself. I wlll ask you the same question I asked suzu (not sure if she answered it?). I sort of hand waved you an answer as it is a question with no answer. It is too hard to tell whether a person actually tipped their hand to far, usually it is easier to tell when you are part of the informed minority rather then the uninformed majority. However, for myself picking up on soft hints and making the connection to a role is not my strong suit, if you want to know who spoke up strangely that is what I can tell you but I cannot know if you know too much. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:39 PM
#154
Vote Count 1.3: roz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara logic340 (1): aa-dono lastwhisper31 (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel aa-dono (1): yurkin Ruu (1): Suzune-chan RE1031 (1): logic340 Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, Labs, lastwhisper31, Ruu) Mod Notes: If there are any spectators: PM me if you'd like to have access to to the club of the dead! >> Time until the phase change << |
Aug 11, 2017 12:40 PM
#155
logic340 said: Do we need to continue this conversation or should we move on? Honestly, I assume your defense is based on the way you see games and are kind of filled with the childlike joy of learning something new and of watching people respond to it.Suzune-chan said: The question i asked is if you feel like my defense of Roz comes from a place of too much knowledge ie. me being scum?logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: Explain what hand waved my answer means exactly please? The explanation is that a town read isn't right when their is a neutral party who is just as uninformed as the town. I though that would make sense? I don't care how new they are asking that was a bait. I am not going to attribute it to a scum play (though there is a chance it could be it's more wine to go that route I think). So for now, neutral slight town is cool. I hope that is clear enough. @Logic340 Well to clarify it appears to be coming from someone who lacks information on who is who. So yes I clarified it myself. I wlll ask you the same question I asked suzu (not sure if she answered it?). I sort of hand waved you an answer as it is a question with no answer. It is too hard to tell whether a person actually tipped their hand to far, usually it is easier to tell when you are part of the informed minority rather then the uninformed majority. However, for myself picking up on soft hints and making the connection to a role is not my strong suit, if you want to know who spoke up strangely that is what I can tell you but I cannot know if you know too much. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:41 PM
#156
Oh god @Labs is here too? He is going to have a ball going over that early shit. I cannot wait to read what he has to say. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:43 PM
#157
Suzune-chan said: Yes we can move on. I didn't mean to harp on it, though I thought it was kind of direct. I love how well you read me, I do get a childish joy out of learning new things when I am not a raving mathematician.logic340 said: Do we need to continue this conversation or should we move on? Honestly, I assume your defense is based on the way you see games and are kind of filled with the childlike joy of learning something new and of watching people respond to it.Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: It means, I had trouble understanding the exact question being asked at me and gave you a lackluster answer. Even now that you tell me the explanation, I still somehow missed that as the question being asked. It is true that a third is equally uninformed but I was not aware that was the direction the question, "am I scum for knowing too much" was going. I had thought it was more a game stance based question on uninformed vs informed?Suzune-chan said: Explain what hand waved my answer means exactly please? The explanation is that a town read isn't right when their is a neutral party who is just as uninformed as the town. I though that would make sense? I don't care how new they are asking that was a bait. I am not going to attribute it to a scum play (though there is a chance it could be it's more wine to go that route I think). So for now, neutral slight town is cool. I hope that is clear enough. @Logic340 Well to clarify it appears to be coming from someone who lacks information on who is who. So yes I clarified it myself. I wlll ask you the same question I asked suzu (not sure if she answered it?). I sort of hand waved you an answer as it is a question with no answer. It is too hard to tell whether a person actually tipped their hand to far, usually it is easier to tell when you are part of the informed minority rather then the uninformed majority. However, for myself picking up on soft hints and making the connection to a role is not my strong suit, if you want to know who spoke up strangely that is what I can tell you but I cannot know if you know too much. thoughts on RE so far? I am really interested in Labs, whisper, togs checking into this game. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:44 PM
#158
I have to go for a bit. |
Aug 11, 2017 12:46 PM
#159
@suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? |
Aug 11, 2017 12:47 PM
#160
Ruu said: How long is a bit?I have to go for a bit. When you come back you thoughts on me vote on RE Also if scum really did jump on that bait (assuming it isn't you) who do you think it is? |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:49 PM
#161
yurkin said: Yes this surely doesn't look lost or fence sitty to me.roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? no sarcasm @Suzune-chan |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:50 PM
#162
yurkin said: My computer ate my post to logic, so this one got to come first.@suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? Your posts during that exchange before the reveal, were more of to supply information. You less has a direct opinion on what was going on and therefore, did not make a concrete argument about where you feel. Only this post felt like you had a direction on it. Therefore, I cannot read you off early interaction because there was less of it. People talked about you but you said not much yourself. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:51 PM
#163
Ruu said: depends on what side you are on this time ;) But if you are town then we are buddies again :D vote: logic let's start with an early train and see what happens... Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. Ruu said: May i ask why you unvoted instead of moving back to Logic? We still need to sort that guy out make sure he is town motivated here.ugh I get overly excited when I think I found scum and then this kind of mistakes get me lynch smh well I still got time to prove you guys wrong but for now unvote I need to rethink this... but let's all agree that this is a whole new level of anti-town play -_- |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:51 PM
#164
logic340 said: Yes, as I just explained to Yurkin, it was that there was a lack of hard stance or any real interaction with the other people during that time to form a read off of their analysis. I also quoted that some post in my post. As there was no interplay but rather an exchange of information. Goodness, you love to repeat questions I was just asked today.yurkin said: Yes this surely doesn't look lost or fence sitty to me.roz1roz said: Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? no sarcasm @Suzune-chan |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:52 PM
#165
Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. |
Aug 11, 2017 12:52 PM
#166
Suzune-chan said: I would say that yurkin played the background more then being lost or fence sitty in that regard then.yurkin said: My computer ate my post to logic, so this one got to come first.@suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? Your posts during that exchange before the reveal, were more of to supply information. You less has a direct opinion on what was going on and therefore, did not make a concrete argument about where you feel. Only this post felt like you had a direction on it. Therefore, I cannot read you off early interaction because there was less of it. People talked about you but you said not much yourself. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:54 PM
#167
Hello hello ! For some reason I thought that this game wouldn't start for a few more stundens. I won't be free to post very much until later this evening, but let's see what's going on for now I actually have a similar line of though, but for another person's scum-streak ##vote: aa-dono Oh boy. I have some thoughts about this but going to sit back for now :popcorn: Hmm, poked the last two players you were able to pocket last time, are you looking for a repeat performance ? : p Mmph okay it might be harder to sit back than I thought. Though it seems most people have figured it out already, rozie is not a new player and this play is I think almost certainly a reaction gambit. Now whether it is a "gambit to get reads on a new playerbase" or a "gambit to make myself look town to a new playerbase" remains to be seen until rozie comes back and we see what they make of it. Suzune-chan said: I agree. If I were to guess how each alignment would be most likely to approach that situation in a vacuum, I would say town would more likely to snap-believe it, whereas scum would see through the fake newbiness right away. They would be more wary of pushing that player because they would realize something's up. That is why Abu looks more innocent to me, because his reaction seemed genuine, whereas Ruu looks more suspicious because she used the situation to try and push a case on someone else. logic340 said: The things about the Ruu exchange that was most interesting was that it was never about Roz, it was about what Abu might have been doing and how I felt about Ruu and Abu. This was the most interesting thing happening during the whole exchange.Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting. Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- roz1roz said: Hello. Good job making material for analysis, now I would like to see some analysis. And by that I specifically mean "tangible opinions on people."Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? there is no jester in the game so it can't be on purpose. Unless... it's a gambit. Hello again ladies and gentelman. Thanks for creating material for analysis. I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait. Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway. I didn't. Why? Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them. Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one). Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town. Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do. On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait. Suzune-chan said: I'm gonna be honest, I like this post for 1. Agreeing with my opinions and 2. For Suzune seemingly still having doubts that it was a gambit or notGreat, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu logic340 said: To me they both responded very differently.Suzune-chan said: Why right back to Ruu after you took the same bait?Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu Oh boy and that's only 2 pages in, I still have 2 more to read though.. |
Aug 11, 2017 12:55 PM
#168
logic340 said: RE comes off as extraordinary neutral to me. I wish I had something interesting to say about them, but nothing has really pinged me one way or the other in regards to their posts. They did have the initial feeling that we should not believe so early here. But I thought they balanced answering and questioning when talking with you quite well. So I would not be currently interested in lynching this slot. thoughts on RE so far? I am really interested in Labs, whisper, togs checking into this game. |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:56 PM
#169
logic340 said: By choosing not to push any real stance or to engage anyone, I was unable to read their reactions. Perhaps the expression I was going for was not fence sitting as that means unable to decide.Suzune-chan said: I would say that yurkin played the background more then being lost or fence sitty in that regard then.yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? Your posts during that exchange before the reveal, were more of to supply information. You less has a direct opinion on what was going on and therefore, did not make a concrete argument about where you feel. Only this post felt like you had a direction on it. Therefore, I cannot read you off early interaction because there was less of it. People talked about you but you said not much yourself. Edit: changed my to by |
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Aug 11, 2017 12:59 PM
#170
Suzune-chan said: We're saying the same thing differently. I think we are in agreeance she could have taken a stronger stance, I just don't think she was lost at all. logic340 said: By choosing not to push any real stance or to engage anyone, I was unable to read their reactions. Perhaps the expression I was going for was not fence sitting as that means unable to decide.Suzune-chan said: yurkin said: My computer ate my post to logic, so this one got to come first.@suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? Your posts during that exchange before the reveal, were more of to supply information. You less has a direct opinion on what was going on and therefore, did not make a concrete argument about where you feel. Only this post felt like you had a direction on it. Therefore, I cannot read you off early interaction because there was less of it. People talked about you but you said not much yourself. Edit: changed my to by |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:00 PM
#171
Togs said: This is true and I will go back and look at the difference in response to see exactly what I make of them later. logic340 said: To me they both responded very differently.Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu Oh boy and that's only 2 pages in, I still have 2 more to read though.. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:03 PM
#172
@Togs Togs said: Now this is something I hadn't though of. I will make a not of this and since it's bold it should catch my eye on rereads.Mmph okay it might be harder to sit back than I thought. Though it seems most people have figured it out already, rozie is not a new player and this play is I think almost certainly a reaction gambit. Now whether it is a "gambit to get reads on a new playerbase" or a "gambit to make myself look town to a new playerbase" remains to be seen until rozie comes back and we see what they make of it. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:08 PM
#173
RE1031 said: logic340 said: I like you for town this was clearly obvious and I am curious why RE/Ruu/suzune/abu didn't bring up that possibility. I think most surprising for me is RE and Suzune, this is definitely something that would get Ruu's interest and this is kind of expected from Abu. Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree). I agree, it wasn't obvious to me. Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: This post just reads as really strange. We are a few hours into the game and you are already concerned that the vig might get roleblocked so this is the best course of action. I mean, way to throw away the rest of the day. I just think that is a better end phase comment because we should continue to look for scum throughout the day.Suzune-chan said: Ruu said: This post though is all over the place and comes off more as fear mongering as Ruu suggests horrible potentials rather then trying to regroup the town.RE1031 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. we could do that but better to start with a mafia lynch than a mislynch right? also what if the roleblocker ends up rb the vig? I don't want that possibility to happen. what do you mean? You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? roz1roz said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? there is no jester in the game so it can't be on purpose. Unless... it's a gambit. Hello again ladies and gentelman. Thanks for creating material for analysis. I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait. Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway. I didn't. Why? Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them. Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one). Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town. Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do. On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait. This would be better if you laid out what you thought of the players yourself, instead of just saying "you know each other better than I do". |
Aug 11, 2017 1:10 PM
#174
RE1031 said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Where do I fit in here? |
Aug 11, 2017 1:11 PM
#175
@Coromandel You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:13 PM
#176
roz1roz said: Ruu does this all the time but it's something i will look into as we have a lot of history I will get back to you and let you know what my research turns up. Here is a link to my mafia blog.Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. Werewolf Mafia - Scum!Ruu Welcome to Camp Crystal Lake - Town!Ruu Nanatsu no Taizai - Scum!Ruu Disgaea - Scum!Ruu Final Fantasy XV - Scum!Ruu Sailor Moon - Scum!Ruu Stray Dogs - Town!Ruu Easter Egg - Town!Ruu Gakkougurashi - Town!Ruu Psychopass - Town!Ruu Kiznaiver - Scum!Ruu Eeveelution - Ongoing before anyone says i am picking on ruu i can do this for the rest of you I have just played most my games with her (over 50%). |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:14 PM
#177
Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: I almost think I would put Yurkin in that last group as they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confused and did not respond directly really based on positioning, so when they return and post will fall into the logic bracket. logic340 said: RE1031 said: Or me who so easily town read then back tracked to a uninformed read?logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Yeah, that is true. My point really was Nikamara's list didn't make sense. If she listed the people who were defending roz, then why wasn't logic on the list? And if she was listing people who reacted towards roz in a certain way, Ruu should have been part of that group. logic340 said: Nikamara said: Bolded at least you take a strong stance. Lemme leave this quick breakdown with what makes me suspect those 4: roz1roz - Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? ^seems like scum slip up. and most of the time, the simplest answer is the best answer. I'm not buying this bait business AbuHumaid – Hi everyone vote: coromandel Fight me ^seems gung ho about lynching. it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think so ^seems like he is defending the scum slip RE1031 - We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. ^seems like he wants to save scum mate from lynching Suzune-chan ^just seems like he is defending the scum slip as well We should be gung ho about lynching but asking coro to fight has nothing to do with that. It's RVS and that vote will not hold all the way through. I think you should question abu and his motive before you give this a scum or town lean. If you think that was defense of a scum slip then what do you make of my response to it? Why suggest the vig shoot them then? Death is death so she is still putting heat for a kill on her buddy? Huh? I defended it more than suzune did I do not understand that one at all. There are other reasons to suspect suzune like taking the bait and going back to Ruu so quickly but not defending imo. Will definitely a need follow up to this. Because her reasoning on me is faulty. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:16 PM
#178
coromandel said: Togs belongs in a 4th categoryRE1031 said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: Or me who so easily town read then back tracked to a uninformed read?logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Where do I fit in here? edit coro i think is with me? |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:17 PM
#179
coromandel said: RE1031 said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: Or me who so easily town read then back tracked to a uninformed read?logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Where do I fit in here? I forgot about you... lol. You're your own category. I don't know what to make of your question - it seems trolly, as if you weren't taking roz's "slip" seriously, but at the same time, you could have been trying to trick roz into making another slip. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:21 PM
#180
@lastwhisper when you get out of work I need you to get over here. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:22 PM
#181
Did suzune ever answer this? |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:24 PM
#182
logic340 said: coromandel said: Togs belongs in a 4th categoryRE1031 said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: Or me who so easily town read then back tracked to a uninformed read?logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Where do I fit in here? edit coro i think is with me? Okay I think my list wasn't self-explanatory. I'm talking about initial reactions before roz revealed his gambit was bait. I don't recall Togs responding. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:24 PM
#183
logic340 said: Did suzune ever answer this? It's not a question towards Suzune... |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:28 PM
#184
Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 11, 2017 1:28 PM
#185
this is going too fast for me |
Aug 11, 2017 1:30 PM
#186
RE1031 said: coromandel said: RE1031 said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: Or me who so easily town read then back tracked to a uninformed read?logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? I think the people who reacted to roz's bait can be divided into two/three categories: 1st: Ruu Abu Suzune 2nd: RE yurkin 3rd: Logic Should be self explanatory, but right now: @Nikamura explanation for your reads please? Where do I fit in here? I forgot about you... lol. You're your own category. I don't know what to make of your question - it seems trolly, as if you weren't taking roz's "slip" seriously, but at the same time, you could have been trying to trick roz into making another slip. I thought he was newbie scum, so I thought, what can I ask to get an informative answer back? It was also sort of a joke, because I didn't really think he'd tell me. I was trying to provoke him, actually. Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. This sounds like she genuinely thought he was newbie scum who made a mistake - which would only make sense if - both, or neither are mafia. - roz is mafia, but Ruu isn't. But not if: - roz isn't mafia, but Ruu is. Ruu said: AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? how can that be a possibility? One of the main rules of mafia is that the mafia has their own private club. How could town get access to it? makes no sense... Ruu seems to really believe roz is mafia. Whereas Abu is saying roz "could be an ignorant townie". The mafia would know if a townie or TPR were fake-claiming. So I'm thinking that if roz is telling the truth, Ruu's probably not mafia either. Whereas Abu could be mafia, then. |
Aug 11, 2017 1:32 PM
#187
Coelestin said: No arguments from me 3 extra hours to hunt scum.Started earlier because everyone confirmed, phase change will still be at 9PM GMT though! Epic scum hunting play list....check |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:32 PM
#188
logic340 said: Did suzune ever answer this? It was a question to roz. Suzune didn't reply to my vote though, if that's what you mean. RE1031 said: Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. I already explained what I thought about roz in my previous post, but what exactly do you find so scummy about my response? (and which response are you talking about?) |
Aug 11, 2017 1:32 PM
#189
AbuHumaid said: I should have seen this coming. this is going too fast for me What do you need help with? What post are you at? |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:33 PM
#190
coromandel said: My bad didn't notice that it was to them. I guess you got your answer in an indirect fashion?logic340 said: Did suzune ever answer this? It was a question to roz. Suzune didn't reply to my vote though, if that's what you mean. RE1031 said: Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. I already explained what I thought about roz in my previous post, but what exactly do you find so scummy about my response? (and which response are you talking about?) |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:35 PM
#191
Suzune-chan said: @Coromandel You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? Why would scum talk about the vig being roleblocked? I don't get why she made that jump in her mind, but I don't find it particularly scummy. Why do you? |
Aug 11, 2017 1:39 PM
#192
roz1roz said: Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. It shouldn't be AI, but you still find it scummy enough to point it out. How do you feel about RVS, or voting in general? |
Aug 11, 2017 1:41 PM
#193
coromandel said: Well since i am not scum reading her for that jump alone. I am scum reading her for:Suzune-chan said: @Coromandel You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? Why would scum talk about the vig being roleblocked? I don't get why she made that jump in her mind, but I don't find it particularly scummy. Why do you? accepting the situation so fast accepting so fast and using that to rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario and how it was better to go for the lynch of mafia day one, and then finally turning around and asking about my opinion on Abu and herself as this was a strange use of what was happening to redirect blame onto another. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:43 PM
#194
I do get the sense that you disagree with my about my read on ruu @Coromandel. However, given the situation and what was done, the behaviour and use of what was going on to manipulate opinion was there. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:44 PM
#195
coromandel said: Suzune-chan said: @Coromandel You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? Why would scum talk about the vig being roleblocked? I don't get why she made that jump in her mind, but I don't find it particularly scummy. Why do you? logic340 said: @coromandel I had similar thinking but for different reasons. Ruu said: I don't think it was crazy to think it was a slip but other options didn't seem to enter your mind. Then as Suzune says you jumped right to Abu is teammate doing clean up duty (I'll look closer to see what I gain from that). This probably say more for town Ruu as you love your crazy theories but it's worth nothing and I am interested in hearing @Togs take on this?well you learn something new in every game... @logic340 people do stupid things, it's not completely crazy to think it was a slip. For me is the same as when I thought I had caught you because of you tagging me. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:45 PM
#196
I'm back. Catching up. On mobile so be patient 😑 |
Aug 11, 2017 1:45 PM
#197
coromandel said: RE1031 said: Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. I already explained what I thought about roz in my previous post, but what exactly do you find so scummy about my response? (and which response are you talking about?) Because you already had a suspect in mind (roz) yet you voted for Suzune. Either you didn't take roz's 'slip' seriously - which is scummy, or you did but didn't vote him. Why did you vote Suzune, I can't remember if you've explained. |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:50 PM
#198
Suzune-chan said: coromandel said: Well since i am not scum reading her for that jump alone. I am scum reading her for:Suzune-chan said: @Coromandel You voted for roz too (= which, if roz was mafia, would also be throwing away the rest of the day) - how is that any different to what Ruu did/said? Why would scum talk about the vig being roleblocked? I don't get why she made that jump in her mind, but I don't find it particularly scummy. Why do you? accepting the situation so fast accepting so fast and using that to rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario and how it was better to go for the lynch of mafia day one, and then finally turning around and asking about my opinion on Abu and herself as this was a strange use of what was happening to redirect blame onto another. I disagree, because I can see why she'd quickly accept roz = mafia as a fact, if she's not scum. I was pretty sure it was a slip too. And when you're sure of something, you use that information to come to other conclusions. When I was reading what happened, I was also thinking "is one of them (Ruu/Abu) bussing roz, now that he's made that mistake?" So I don't find her reaction scummy. logic340 said: My bad didn't notice that it was to them. I guess you got your answer in an indirect fashion?[/quote]RE1031 said: Shit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. I already explained what I thought about roz in my previous post, but what exactly do you find so scummy about my response? (and which response are you talking about?) To my question to roz? Yeah, i guess so. |
Aug 11, 2017 1:52 PM
#199
RE vs. coro is almost as good as RE vs. Shinichi |
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Aug 11, 2017 1:53 PM
#200
@logic340 I need to go back and read RE's and your posts before giving you my opinion. I didn't go back to you cause I see no point in doing so. I want to see what trains get formed before choosing a candidate. You are here and active + pressure doesn't work on you. Btw I didn't start a train on you to get your reaction but to get everybody else's. |
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