[Fate/Grand Order] All-around Discussions

KingOfSherous said:
Logging back into my Jap FGO account after playing the American FGO has really made me lose motivation to play the American one. There's so much I have to actually work towards getting. It's so much worse knowing how much you have to gain but not having it immediately than just starting a game with no expectations. It's like watching a show where a character you like gets amnesia in a dumb arc and you spend every minute waiting for them to get their memory back cause the show is bad without that character's memories (looking at you Twin Peaks).

ssjokg said:
Anyone else stuck in reroll hell?

ssjokg said:
Anyone else stuck in reroll hell?

kei78 said:
O/
How are you guys?
How is the NA version ?
To be honest, i lost interest into mobage.
Im Just log in once à day to get reward. I didnt even do the Master missions since last week....

Dont expect me to give you my account yet ;/

Genkii said:
Bonjour! J'ai une tour Eiffel dans mon pantalon~!

If only Gudao watched Scrubs before he became a master!

Genkii said:


Tried 10 times and gave up. I really don't have time for this lol. I normally don't advocate this but you're probably better off buying Quartz accounts.



- Good
- Lots of people are on board with it. It's riddled with memes and spelling errors. I'm curious to see how it'll fair in a years time while competing with the Japanese content.
- Eh, your spark will return soon. It's understandable with all the re-runs we're getting. IF you're talking about mobage in general it's probably a phase.

-Lemme know if you give away or sell your account. Gotta free up Friend space for another whale.

Ok so I made it through Fuyuki so here are a few thoughts on the translation from a professional perspective.



There are a lot of small inconsistencies like missing spaces, small typos, inconsistencies in capitalization and terminology.
In terms of in game lore, there are clearly segments edited by people who know fate, and those who do not. That's just really plain to anyone who likes fate, not just to those who can read JP FGO. Most of the characters in Fuyuki sound the same except when someone remembers that Caster Cu is still a rough boy. But Caster is also written pretty inconsistently. At times he's overly formal in normal conversation and they've inexplicably gone to a more casual route/modern slang with things he takes seriously like his druid incantations.



This is particularly weird to me since in legend Cu Chulainn has respect for druids and some stories say he must obey them via geas.

There are some strange choices in terminology, as they use leylines, call the summoning points ley points, but have gone with Rayshift.

They definately dropped some balls on knowing what fans/official terms for things. On the first screenshot in this thread where the daily quests are, you can see that today the exp missions are referred to Lance/Killing. This seems strange to us fans, but in japan, the classes are often referred to with one kanji character to simplify speech in discussions. Lancers have the kanji for spear/lance, and assassins use the kanji for kill, based on the first kanji in the word for assassin in Japanese. But it looks like whoever translated/edited thisdidn't know this piece of fate trivia, which is how were getting this curious terminology for the daily quests.

But the biggest problem I personally have is that the dialogue reads really unnaturally. A lot of the grammar is bad and takes you out of the game trying to read it, and a lot of the English is very literal instead of translating what the character is trying to convey.

This creeps in to some of the servant skills I've seen as well. One of mashu's skills is translated as wall of fuming chalk. This is not only bad localization, but bad translation. The white chalk portion comes from the kanji 白亜. Now this can technically mean chalk, but it most often means something that is painted white. It would be like how whitewash is a kind of paint, but we would often just say painted white instead of saying a whitewashed wall. (Unless you're writing a story set in the south or rural areas) The fuming part comes from the first part of her skill, 時に煙る. 煙る can literally mean dusty or fuming, but here's it's more meant in its second meaning, which is obscured or difficult to see(as if it is hidden by dust) and they've chosen not to include the 時に portion of her skill name. If you read the whole name it would read as White wall obscured with time. (Which is quite a mouthful yes) But there doesn't seem to be a lot of poetry in the terms they've chosen. Even working with character limits, something like Obscured White Wall would have sounded nicer for their heroine.

I understand there's limits on how to show the poetic subtitles of NPs in the game... But it's disappointing that US fans will never see the subtext in many of the heroes NPs. A lot of these are things that relate deeply to the hero, but it's sad that you lose a lot of the subtle things that tell you more about the hero, or subtle connections like Andersen and Nursery Rhyme's NP.

Overall my complaints are that it's sloppy work, there's none of the poetry that Nasu and Type Moon are famous for, and it feels rushed and unedited. Hopefully the next chapter will be a little more clean as Jeanne is one of their big heroines.

Also, just to clarify why I'm so critical about the translation in FGO, I was the main translator for Fate / Extella and did 80% of it. Extella is not perfect but I can say that everyone did their best to bring the charm of the Extra series to US fans.

ShinsoPriest said:
You should see GBF's translations. They flat out make up lines that aren't there and it's all the more noticable because it's usually voiced. I guess mobages are just cursed with having shit translations?

KaiserNazrin said:
I think we should cut them some slack because they are just starting and have room for improvement. We don't give fan translation that much shit when their translation is off. Being an official translation means there's a lot of thing going on in the background than some guy who know Japanese and fan of the series translating at their own leisure. Extella is an actual game for console with price tag so I understand that they put more effort into the translation than you know mobile game.

I'd say we should give the NA team more time. They are willing to hear feedback from players so I'm sure they will use that to improve translation. This is a game with fuckload of texts, of course it won't be easy to translate.

Beside translation, there's nothing wrong with the game. We should be glad there was no maintenance at all.

astroprogs said:
JP server vs NA server.
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Frostbite_ said:
By the way, are there any specific Servants you guys want to get when their gachas roll around? I'm personally looking to probably not get Okita, Jack and Scatty.

Frostbite_ said:
By the way, are there any specific Servants you guys want to get when their gachas roll around? I'm personally looking to probably not get Okita, Jack and Scatty.

Genkii said:
-trap-

mira-pyon said:
Finally got Waver + Herk on 20th reroll.....

Tbh, we have all month so I think I'll keep going to see if I can get a Liz in there too.

KaiserNazrin said:
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