Coelestin said: Jackrito said: i'm def in a slump a lot of people seem to think Penta still not sure how I feel on it, My top scum reads at the moment is Grape/slepnirr, Denjax and Dono. Wont get much from Dono today so would feel scummy voting them and still not sure. I also think Slepnirr is not up to date so would be hard to question them. Still not sure on Kit and Quco either. Hmmm... what bothers me is that you, me and Penta have barely been under pressure and haven't been questioned the whole game, which is probably part of why we're hard to judge and we're definitely going in circles at the moment, which makes it for scum easier to hide. Vote: Jackrito Now this will look weird since I've been defending Jack and Penta so much but town needs a change of pace once in a while. And I've seen too many people being too hesitant on the two of them now, people are barely trying to talk about them. Since we're in a slump anyways and still need to wait for people to catch up, I'll use this move to encourage discussion. I think Jack's been doing good behavior wise which is what my town read is based on but is starting to get horrific action wise. Anyone agreeing? I agree on this which is why ill be doing this Vote: Coel Honestly idk what to think about you right now i feel like u just stepped back way too much and now that 2 people u thought could be scum got cleared ur jumping right back in. Which i do find supicious. |
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logic340 said: Coelestin said: I am liking jack behaviorally. Which actions are you finding "horrific"? As I find you/penta/and jacks actions all pretty much inline with one another so far this game?Hmmm... what bothers me is that you, me and Penta have barely been under pressure and haven't been questioned the whole game, which is probably part of why we're hard to judge and we're definitely going in circles at the moment, which makes it for scum easier to hide. Vote: Jackrito Now this will look weird since I've been defending Jack and Penta so much but town needs a change of pace once in a while. And I've seen too many people being too hesitant on the two of them now, people are barely trying to talk about them. Since we're in a slump anyways and still need to wait for people to catch up, I'll use this move to encourage discussion. I think Jack's been doing good behavior wise which is what my town read is based on but is starting to get horrific action wise. Anyone agreeing? U realize that one of those 3 being scum is highly possible with the pull of possible scum dropping. |
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Coelestin said: logic340 said: As I find you/penta/and jacks actions all pretty much inline with one another so far this game? That's the problem here. I think people are afraid to question us because of our great trinity. Scum can easily pocket us if we should all be town. And even worse, one of us could be scum and hiding with the help of the trinity. The suspects have been mostly the same since D2, which makes it easier for scum to hide as well, cause it is easier to hold on to a read for a long time than to act like you're changing you're mind, because that'd require analysis of what is changing. Its annoying seeing u bring this up when i get criticized for always look at everything this exact way. I feel like alot of the people this game got completely sheeped by the reasoning of u 4 players :/. Im confident in my gut that one of u 4 are scum. |
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Jackrito said: I really don't know how this Trinity formed though it is not something I have seen in a mafia game before. I guess maybe because we have the most exp and are used to each other which made a fear factor to questioning us Btw im nota fraid to question you im afraid of the backlash i would get for trying to pressure someone thats being pocketed by the entire game lol |
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Jackrito said: logic340 said: I know it was making you worried, and I like the reaction that it got off you. I felt like as scum you would question it a little bit but be more accepting of it in the end because hey who doesn't like a town read? So figure with as much push back as I got from you on top of my previous town read, it makes you look pretty good from my PoV. More concerned with Penta and Coelestin at the moment but started an ISO on the two of you (Jack and Coel) yesterday so I will continue on. Penta and I can have a heated exchange later. I am still waiting for an answer to my question about the conflicting Night Action ideas and time permitting will do an ISO on him as well. Just to note that is a good test but most good scum will know how to respond to a heavy defense and townread, paranoia is easy to fake . Glad to see you based it off more then that it is a good sign. Out of the other two i would suspect Penta the most, I like the way Coel has brought attention to us 3 it shows looking out the box and checking more angles. Jack is right here, also most scum wouldnt just accept a town read because if they were to ride on that the entire game eventually they be scum read themselves. As for u liking chione for bringing that up thats exactly why i dislike it, if someone else brought it up other than u/penta/chione i would like it but to have her bring it up as one of those players whois not getting attention i dislike. |
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Jackrito said: Oh trust me I know....I am a capital offender myself...lol.Yes sadly that is a case of too much free time and addiction problems. |
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| Btw guys I am not mia I am still reading and I am gonna keep reading till I feel like there is something I can contribute to the game or an immediate question I can answer. Man those are some long paragraphs jack you should stop doing that its hard to read. Anyway status update currently at 32 |
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Shinichi-Kun said: yes I do which is why I am currently doing ISO's on two of them? What are you doing to figure out which of them is likely scum? Right now I am leaning towards Penta the most but this Coelestin ISO came first and wont be done for a little while longer.logic340 said: I am liking jack behaviorally. Which actions are you finding "horrific"? As I find you/penta/and jacks actions all pretty much inline with one another so far this game? U realize that one of those 3 being scum is highly possible with the pull of possible scum dropping. |
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Coelestin said: An meaningful interaction. @logic340 What exactly did you expect to get out of that Kit vote when she hasn't caught up? |
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DenjaX said: Coelestin said: This statement disgusts me. What do you think I have been doing the whole time? I hope you aren't saying that I am just trolling around and doing stuff for sheets and giggles.I'd appreciate it if someone would continue questioning Jack for me while I'm studying. And don't forget Denja as well, he barely has gotten game related questions even though he's caught up long ago already. Great now I'm getting criticized for trying to push the game forward :| I didn't say that you were only doing shits and giggles, quite the opposite, I already said that I liked your posts. I just find it odd that people are ignoring you mostly except when you're posting about mechanics. I mean, how many questions about your reads have you received so far except for the ones I have asked you? |
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logic340 said: DenjaX said: I think she is saying that you have also been left out of the questioning by other players? maybe I took it wrong though? This statement disgusts me. What do you think I have been doing the whole time? I hope you aren't saying that I am just trolling around and doing stuff for sheets and giggles. Yes, this. |
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Coelestin said: I am sorry, I have misunderstood you.logic340 said: I think she is saying that you have also been left out of the questioning by other players? maybe I took it wrong though? Yes, this. |
logic340 said: Kit said: Bolded is town points for Kit imo.sorry, mafia brings out the bitchiness in me >_< I'm just too lazy, but I will try to read more today. And this time since I'm not on mobile anymore I can actually save quotes XD Also, I know you're only voting for pressure (which means it doesn't actually pressure me) but consider whether snarkiness actually means scumminess before you lynch me =v I am actually caring LESS about town's perception of me than usual cause "I'm already being scum read so oh well" And I have a shitty power role + haven't read the whole game so I can't even help town beyond trying to prevent a mislynch on this slot. I doubt anyone will take me seriously when I'm behind and being scum read so it's like what's the point. I am trying though, as evident by the reads I already gave you in previous posts. Not like I haven't said anything :I Mafia can bring the bitchiness out of me too so I understand where you are coming from...lol. I like his post a lot better. I feel it really gives me a look into your mindset right now. Sorry if you feel I am being a bit unfair but I still need to sort your slot. I don't want to mislynch you either (if you're town that is) if it can be avoided. No snarky doesn't equate to scummy but it doesn't help me in reading you as town either. I appreciate that you subbed in, I know you have a monumental task ahead of you, I just was asking to check in with thoughts every once in a while not that I felt you were lurking or trying to hide. Unvote: I like what I got from this time to find the next person to pressure? Out of all posts on Ruu/Abu/Kit I don't see how this one tells you that Kit's in the "right mindset". |
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Coelestin said: @Jackrito What exactly do you expect to get from Sleipnirr when they haven't even caught up? Well I can't wait for them to catch up fully so need to get sone early thoughts. They are my main scum lead so at least want something. I would pressure dono more but I know they won't be here. Had interactions with Denjax which worry me since i yhink their reasons and criticsm are unreasonable and tried one with Quco but they left straight away. |
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DenjaX said: Jackrito said: Yes.Really is it going to turn into that But yeah, this ain't going anywhere. Where did you want it to go |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: Hmmm... what bothers me is that you, me and Penta have barely been under pressure and haven't been questioned the whole game, which is probably part of why we're hard to judge and we're definitely going in circles at the moment, which makes it for scum easier to hide. Vote: Jackrito Now this will look weird since I've been defending Jack and Penta so much but town needs a change of pace once in a while. And I've seen too many people being too hesitant on the two of them now, people are barely trying to talk about them. Since we're in a slump anyways and still need to wait for people to catch up, I'll use this move to encourage discussion. I think Jack's been doing good behavior wise which is what my town read is based on but is starting to get horrific action wise. Anyone agreeing? I agree on this which is why ill be doing this Vote: Coel Honestly idk what to think about you right now i feel like u just stepped back way too much and now that 2 people u thought could be scum got cleared ur jumping right back in. Which i do find supicious. I'll admit I lost my fire for a while. I have no clue which 2 people you are talking about though which is why I cannot comprehend this scum read. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: That's the problem here. I think people are afraid to question us because of our great trinity. Scum can easily pocket us if we should all be town. And even worse, one of us could be scum and hiding with the help of the trinity. The suspects have been mostly the same since D2, which makes it easier for scum to hide as well, cause it is easier to hold on to a read for a long time than to act like you're changing you're mind, because that'd require analysis of what is changing. Its annoying seeing u bring this up when i get criticized for always look at everything this exact way. I feel like alot of the people this game got completely sheeped by the reasoning of u 4 players :/. Im confident in my gut that one of u 4 are scum. Didn't necessarily say that people who do not change their minds are scum, pls. It always depends on situation/person. Yeah I know that the the four of us has been mostly in control of town which is why I started this action in the first place to see what would happen and it hasn't disappointed me so far. |
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Coelestin said: @Jackrito Would be nice if we get a full read on Denja from you. Well based off their interactions with me today I find a lot of it easy shaming and perhaps trying to take adv off any potential mistrust in me. The stuff from last night a key example I also want more expansion on their scum reads. Since I find them lacking more then my own. I'm nowhere near as comfortable with this slot as you. I really don't see what you see that I don't. |
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| So I have wrangled up all the post now it's time to head home. I will analyze it and post it later. Jack's may or may not happen by phase change he has a ton of posts. I want to look into Penta more as well so one ISO this phase may be the limit. Still need to question Sleipnirr as catches up. Qoco - has a claim that can be verified, who wants to lynch and who wants to wait until it's verified? Kit - has a claim that cannot be verified who is suspicious of this slot? Sleipnirr - Grapefruit wouldn't claim and hasn't left Sleipnirr in the best of positions. Who is suspicious of this slot? Qoco - very but willing to wait for verification if majority is. Sleinirr- I definitely want to hear what he has to say. Kit - willing to allow kit time as I am still not sold on scum Ruu |
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Jackrito said: Coelestin said: @Jackrito What exactly do you expect to get from Sleipnirr when they haven't even caught up? Well I can't wait for them to catch up fully so need to get sone early thoughts. They are my main scum lead so at least want something. I would pressure dono more but I know they won't be here. Had interactions with Denjax which worry me since i yhink their reasons and criticsm are unreasonable and tried one with Quco but they left straight away. Jackrito said: Coelestin said: @Jackrito Would be nice if we get a full read on Denja from you. Well based off their interactions with me today I find a lot of it easy shaming and perhaps trying to take adv off any potential mistrust in me. The stuff from last night a key example I also want more expansion on their scum reads. Since I find them lacking more then my own. I'm nowhere near as comfortable with this slot as you. I really don't see what you see that I don't. Why not vote Denja then? |
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Coelestin said: Jackrito said: Well I can't wait for them to catch up fully so need to get sone early thoughts. They are my main scum lead so at least want something. I would pressure dono more but I know they won't be here. Had interactions with Denjax which worry me since i yhink their reasons and criticsm are unreasonable and tried one with Quco but they left straight away. Jackrito said: Well based off their interactions with me today I find a lot of it easy shaming and perhaps trying to take adv off any potential mistrust in me. The stuff from last night a key example I also want more expansion on their scum reads. Since I find them lacking more then my own. I'm nowhere near as comfortable with this slot as you. I really don't see what you see that I don't. Why not vote Denja then? I want to try to work them out more first. To see if they is town motives there |
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DenjaX said: Jackrito said: I initially wanted to vote you for my reasons before but we don't have to go criticizing posts. Where did you want it to go Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here |
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Jackrito said: I am just disappointed of you not working optimally for town and I even get scum read for an obvious town motivated strategy. I did not like you not acknowledging that. It made me think that you are angry that a night kill failed and you want to bury stuff as much as possible. Like me.Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here Penta's activity also minimized after the night strategy was deemed successful. He put me as scummy in his algorithm but I wanna see his next move. I am waiting for it. Chione seemed to have taken my side. There is a split here when I put all of you 3 together in one basket. But I will consider Chione as my ally for now. |
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logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: yes I do which is why I am currently doing ISO's on two of them? What are you doing to figure out which of them is likely scum? Right now I am leaning towards Penta the most but this Coelestin ISO came first and wont be done for a little while longer.U realize that one of those 3 being scum is highly possible with the pull of possible scum dropping. ok lol i didnt mean to sound like a jackass i was just making sure u were aware if that idea thats all and i cant wait to see ur iso on chione. |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: I agree on this which is why ill be doing this Vote: Coel Honestly idk what to think about you right now i feel like u just stepped back way too much and now that 2 people u thought could be scum got cleared ur jumping right back in. Which i do find supicious. I'll admit I lost my fire for a while. I have no clue which 2 people you are talking about though which is why I cannot comprehend this scum read. *pats there there everything will be fine sweet sweet chi chi |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: Its annoying seeing u bring this up when i get criticized for always look at everything this exact way. I feel like alot of the people this game got completely sheeped by the reasoning of u 4 players :/. Im confident in my gut that one of u 4 are scum. Didn't necessarily say that people who do not change their minds are scum, pls. It always depends on situation/person. Yeah I know that the the four of us has been mostly in control of town which is why I started this action in the first place to see what would happen and it hasn't disappointed me so far. Exactly lol im just trying to think if ur scum or town for bringing it up first |
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DenjaX said: Jackrito said: I am just disappointed of you not working optimally for town and I even get scum read for an obvious town motivated strategy. I did not like you not acknowledging that. It made me think that you are angry that a night kill failed and you want to bury stuff as much as possible. Like me.Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here Penta's activity also minimized after the night strategy was deemed successful. He put me as scummy in his algorithm but I wanna see his next move. I am waiting for it. Chione seemed to have taken my side. There is a split here when I put all of you 3 together in one basket. But I will consider Chione as my ally for now. Denja lol even without ur idea i knew the most optimal plan myself and even knew the doctor could save me so dont pat yourself on the back just yet. Cause for me that strategy didnt change how i see you at all, only difference is you + penta convinced me to pull through which im thankful for |
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Jackrito said: DenjaX said: I initially wanted to vote you for my reasons before but we don't have to go criticizing posts. Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here Honestly i think ur reaction says alot regardless of the criticism, i mean i do it ALOT mostly when im town tbf XD and its mostly im either really pissed off or i want reaction. |
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Vote Count 4.1 PentaFlare: Grrr, Kit Sleipnirr: Jackrito Jackrito: Coelestin, DenjaX Coelestin: Shinichi-kun Not Voting: Aa-dono, Pentaflare, Qoco, Sleipnirr, Jackrito, Logic340, What has already transpired Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12 || 1.13 || 1.14 || 1.15 Night one Day 2 || Vote Count 2.0 || 2.1 || 2.2 || 2.3 || 2.4 || 2.5 || 2.6 || 2.7 || 2.8 || 2.9 || 2.10 || 2.11 Night 2 Day 3 || Vote Count 3.0 || 3.1 || 3.2 || 3.3 || 3.4 || 3.5 || 3.6 || 3.7 || 3.8 || 3.9 || 3.10 || 3.11 Night 3 Day 4 || 4.1 |
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DenjaX said: Jackrito said: I am just disappointed of you not working optimally for town and I even get scum read for an obvious town motivated strategy. I did not like you not acknowledging that. It made me think that you are angry that a night kill failed and you want to bury stuff as much as possible. Like me.Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here Penta's activity also minimized after the night strategy was deemed successful. He put me as scummy in his algorithm but I wanna see his next move. I am waiting for it. Chione seemed to have taken my side. There is a split here when I put all of you 3 together in one basket. But I will consider Chione as my ally for now. Not sure how I'm not working optimally for town but that is likely a difference in views, I never scumread you for that strat, but it does not give me a town read either since like I said doc should protect anyway. Not sure how you saw it as me been mad, we got good info and I never buried you with it either just said it does not mean I townread you. I agree Penta has been underwhelming at this point today , I'm waiting for more there as well before I judge them since how they work off that is key. Is it not possible Chione took your side to pocket you not sure why that is a town read. |
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DenjaX said: Jackrito said: I am just disappointed of you not working optimally for town and I even get scum read for an obvious town motivated strategy. I did not like you not acknowledging that. It made me think that you are angry that a night kill failed and you want to bury stuff as much as possible. Like me.Your reason to vote me I saw as a criticsm. I agree though no need for that. so let me know your read on Penta and Chione now then you saw us 3 the same before does that mean we are all scum to you or just me. I alfo want you to expand on the Grape read since you say it us their lack of defense but they did give one on day 2 so I need help on your view here Penta's activity also minimized after the night strategy was deemed successful. He put me as scummy in his algorithm but I wanna see his next move. I am waiting for it. Chione seemed to have taken my side. There is a split here when I put all of you 3 together in one basket. But I will consider Chione as my ally for now. Also can I have the last bit on Grape as well. |
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Jackrito said: DenjaX said: I am just disappointed of you not working optimally for town and I even get scum read for an obvious town motivated strategy. I did not like you not acknowledging that. It made me think that you are angry that a night kill failed and you want to bury stuff as much as possible. Like me. Penta's activity also minimized after the night strategy was deemed successful. He put me as scummy in his algorithm but I wanna see his next move. I am waiting for it. Chione seemed to have taken my side. There is a split here when I put all of you 3 together in one basket. But I will consider Chione as my ally for now. Not sure how I'm not working optimally for town but that is likely a difference in views, I never scumread you for that strat, but it does not give me a town read either since like I said doc should protect anyway. Not sure how you saw it as me been mad, we got good info and I never buried you with it either just said it does not mean I townread you. I agree Penta has been underwhelming at this point today , I'm waiting for more there as well before I judge them since how they work off that is key. Is it not possible Chione took your side to pocket you not sure why that is a town read. @ bold thats exactly how i feel @denjax |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Trying to make sense of it now. I appreciate your patience. logic340 said: yes I do which is why I am currently doing ISO's on two of them? What are you doing to figure out which of them is likely scum? Right now I am leaning towards Penta the most but this Coelestin ISO came first and wont be done for a little while longer. ok lol i didnt mean to sound like a jackass i was just making sure u were aware if that idea thats all and i cant wait to see ur iso on chione. |
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Jackrito said: Really not sure why Quco is not voting me today he obv thinks I'm scum so why not just vote me he was fine with it on day 2. I'm at work right now. This phase has gaps for me. |
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Kit said: what's with this holy trinity or whatever.. you guys aren't special ( '_') logic340 said: Looks to me like I am not leading the lynch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯@Sleipnirr @Kit I know it's a lot to read but we need to get your views on the things you have read. If we judge you based on your predecessors then you two are likely leading the lynch right now. So if you could please give us something to go off of with each of you it would be greatly appreciated. I've told you as much as I could already. Voting Ruu at the beginning of the game. You yourself explain the reason you voted her, therefore it was not "random" but intentional. It's unjustified because it was a terrible reason o/ actually thats wrongs true over justifying a rvs vote is weird and potentially scummy, but you can't blame him if that led to said person being voted. An rvs is mainly for reactions so honestly if his vote got reactions he already did more than enough with it. I mean like i said i think people who try to over justify Rvs are scummy the votes themselves are far from terrible. |
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Kit said: what's with this holy trinity or whatever.. you guys aren't special ( '_') logic340 said: Looks to me like I am not leading the lynch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯@Sleipnirr @Kit I know it's a lot to read but we need to get your views on the things you have read. If we judge you based on your predecessors then you two are likely leading the lynch right now. So if you could please give us something to go off of with each of you it would be greatly appreciated. I've told you as much as I could already. Voting Ruu at the beginning of the game. You yourself explain the reason you voted her, therefore it was not "random" but intentional. It's unjustified because it was a terrible reason o/ Also u havent told us enough for us to just look away from you lol, you cant replace is read up to 10 pages proceed to get bored then expect us to just look away XD. I dont agree that previous actions made you scummy but they are something we still have to consider, cause even if u persay havent done anything scummy the actions of others still are which overrides ur actions espically if ur not giving us something to work with. |
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