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Apr 19, 2017 6:04 PM

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Jackrito said:
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Ok fair enough so what do u think about the lucian train then?


I could see it been all town as weird as that sounds, I would need to reread the thread to see their reasons just on looking though. I would say Dono looks the most strange since they were on their the longest but they are not on to change but their reasons for it were a bit weak from memory. Logic would be my next most likely since thier change was to create a tie rather then actual scum read and I don't think they ever scum read them unless I missed it this just seems real bad.

Next likely would be Chione since they pushed the lynch but that does not make them scum since townies can force a mislynch and their reasons did make sense to me. Not one I can get behind as strongly but is possible. How upfront they are about it adds to my doubts of scum Chione, but they is advs of removing Lucian though if she is scum I need more time to look at their day one and others views here.

Finally is Penta they did it to break a tie which can be seen as town but also scum if they know the flips since a mislynch is better then a no lynch because it cuts down towns numbers. . I would like to see Ruu's role before I think more on Penta, their play has come off to me as largely town though so out of all votes I see them as most town.


Ok thanks for the quick response ill keep this in mind


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Suzune-chan said:
All vote counts has been added. @Aa-dono

They are both in the voting list and on the first page.
Thank you :)

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I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.
Apr 19, 2017 6:40 PM

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Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.


wow you are so getting lynched, they is no reason to trust this
Apr 19, 2017 7:04 PM

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logic340 said:
Karote said:


And Lucian was a better option? Funny.
You gave him no chance to defend himself and just voted him off.
He had more of a chance than Ruu who was gone for hours. I wasn't even the deciding factor. Hopefully you'll be more active and involved maybe you can shoulder some of the blame if you participate.

I love it when people are gone for hours then complain about the lynch. Do something about it if you are really bothered by it.

Logic out!

I know this isn't about me but...
I wasn't awake. You cant expect me to be around every phase change when it is near ungodly hours in the morning. You can't cause mislynches then blame anyone who wasn't there during phase change. Just because you're that flexible doesnt mean we are. Stop using that as an excuse. I don't care if it's me or shini or whoever, we made our votes with reasons, if you decided to derail them and go for some train which ended up in a mislynch at the last second, that shouldn't be our fault for not being able to stay up during phase change. Just take the responsibility and face the consequences, if you've proven you're town, go scumhunt and be useful, don't play the blame game after a mislynch especially when you caused it and not the one you're blaming.
Apr 19, 2017 7:08 PM

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Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.

Vig shoot her. Just shoot, dont ask questions.
Apr 19, 2017 7:13 PM

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Grapefruit21 said:
@Oyasumi_Rosie you need to post more! You've done jack all.


I know, I feel really bad about it. I've been thinking that I should be replaced out. But I really do like all the players here so I want to do my best. I will reread everything and see how I feel.

Apr 19, 2017 7:18 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Grapefruit21 said:
@Oyasumi_Rosie you need to post more! You've done jack all.


I know, I feel really bad about it. I've been thinking that I should be replaced out. But I really do like all the players here so I want to do my best. I will reread everything and see how I feel.

Bae, day 1 is over and so is your immunity. Although I'm focusing more ot Lucian train for the time being.
Apr 19, 2017 7:20 PM

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CorruptedPurity said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:


I know, I feel really bad about it. I've been thinking that I should be replaced out. But I really do like all the players here so I want to do my best. I will reread everything and see how I feel.

Bae, day 1 is over and so is your immunity. Although I'm focusing more ot Lucian train for the time being.
I know, I know. Another reason I should be replaced out. We will see, we will see....

Apr 19, 2017 7:32 PM

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@PentaFlare I know you are better than this let me break it down since you are completely missing it

Ruu - says scum!Logic is calm and angrier when town
Purity - Purity tells Ruu she has a point
Grapefruit - Says I was emotional in Alcatraz
Purity - Says I was emotional but collected and tried not to tunnel
Grapefruit - Says I was full emotion when locked into death spiral he will need to reread it
Qoco - Says the last time he played with me he though I was going to cry
Grapefruit - Asks Qoco if he's confirming I am emotional town
Qoco - Say he doesn't know if I am emotional town he has only played one game with me
Logic - I ask if he (logic) was town or scum
Qoco - IDK the game hasn't ended and so I'm not sure

How did this go from talking about me to Grapefruit please explain it to me?


Purity was emotional in alc thats how i knew he was scum and grape tunneled super hard.

I believe my only emotional part that game was my dichotomy as Claire. If you read scum chat, it was all an act to make it more dramatic, to add more flair into my vengence role. I can't reference another game for now but you can see that usually as scum, I like to be dramatic and flavorful almost to a fault. Of course, you don't have to believe my self meta, just thought I would put it out there
Apr 19, 2017 7:47 PM

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Brief opinion on the train, pre-analysis

aa-dono: Generally town read and she was the longest stay on the train, her reasonings were not that sound but she did agree with me that Lucian is better kept alive on the off chance he's town. So why didn't she unvote or change her vote?

Chione: I did not see it coming that you would vote Lucy. Definitely suspicious, you were one of the last person I thought would vote him considering how you were so against his train early on.

Jackrito: He has reasons for being on the train, how justified were they? I'm gonna have to reread that before forming a conclusion on him.

Logic: Well well, you sit at the same level of high suspicion as chione. And don't blame me for not being around during phase change, heck, don't even try to counterattack at all, you should be on the defensive until you clear your name. Most prob gonna iso you along with chione. (And maybe jack)

Penta: The tie breaker, generally not scumread even though he was on the train because the only reason why he was on the train was to break a tie which is definitely town motivated.

The to-push list would then be logic and chione and potentially Jack after I reread his reasoning for voting lucy to see if they make sense or not.

Also @THEVIGILANTEORSOMESIMILARMAFKILLINGROLE please shoot Ruu. 9/10 times she's scum this game.
Apr 19, 2017 8:54 PM

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Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.


Looks like we're gonna have some Ruu for dinner tomorrow ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Apr 19, 2017 8:55 PM

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logic340 said:
Should of been you but I couldn't get the support I needed.


You legit remind me of those crazy alien conspiracy theorists.
Apr 19, 2017 10:17 PM

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Jackrito said:
Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.


wow you are so getting lynched, they is no reason to trust this


yep shes getting lynched screw that role and the way she claimed it wtf


Apr 19, 2017 10:18 PM

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CorruptedPurity said:
logic340 said:
He had more of a chance than Ruu who was gone for hours. I wasn't even the deciding factor. Hopefully you'll be more active and involved maybe you can shoulder some of the blame if you participate.

I love it when people are gone for hours then complain about the lynch. Do something about it if you are really bothered by it.

Logic out!

I know this isn't about me but...
I wasn't awake. You cant expect me to be around every phase change when it is near ungodly hours in the morning. You can't cause mislynches then blame anyone who wasn't there during phase change. Just because you're that flexible doesnt mean we are. Stop using that as an excuse. I don't care if it's me or shini or whoever, we made our votes with reasons, if you decided to derail them and go for some train which ended up in a mislynch at the last second, that shouldn't be our fault for not being able to stay up during phase change. Just take the responsibility and face the consequences, if you've proven you're town, go scumhunt and be useful, don't play the blame game after a mislynch especially when you caused it and not the one you're blaming.


preach my friend preach


Apr 19, 2017 10:19 PM

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CorruptedPurity said:
Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.

Vig shoot her. Just shoot, dont ask questions.


i 2nd this


Apr 19, 2017 10:28 PM

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Qoco said:
logic340 said:
Should of been you but I couldn't get the support I needed.


You legit remind me of those crazy alien conspiracy theorists.



Apr 19, 2017 10:30 PM

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Is it just me, or is Grrr extremely un Grrr like this game. He is being more helpful and less trolly. Even is Weird/Normal role stuff is still pretty useful. IDK what this means, because this is totally different from any game I have played with him before. Not a scum or a town read, just a note.

Apr 19, 2017 10:36 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Is it just me, or is Grrr extremely un Grrr like this game. He is being more helpful and less trolly.


Rosie, I think it's time to go to bed.
Apr 19, 2017 10:39 PM

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Qoco said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Is it just me, or is Grrr extremely un Grrr like this game. He is being more helpful and less trolly.


Rosie, I think it's time to go to bed.




But seriously this is weird. I would place Roy and Grrr on the same level of annoying when it comes to their sarcastic not serious posts, but Roy is way more aligned with his usual antics compare to Grrr. Grrr usually post stuff that seem complete out of no where and have nothing to do with the game, but this time, I can see some logic behind what he is doing.

(though you are right, i have been up for 15 hours now. I gotta make up for what I missed though >>;;;)

Apr 19, 2017 11:10 PM

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A couple things to get out of the way before I fuhk off for the night.
That lynch was gross, just gross. Can't believe Foxy got his ass lynched out D1 after finally coming back lol.
Apr 19, 2017 11:13 PM

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My claim will be gross too, well half of my role claim the rest doesn't need to be touched for now.
I have a passive Ascetic modifier.
Apr 19, 2017 11:15 PM

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Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.


aannddd the most gross I've seen in a good while.
What a time to claim, I can basically feel the spit dribbling down my face :S
Even more ironic that it was after getting rid of someone like Foxy, that's gottah sting.
Apr 19, 2017 11:29 PM

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Lam-B said:
My claim will be gross too, well half of my role claim the rest doesn't need to be touched for now.
I have a passive Ascetic modifier.

I know that suzu is most prob laughing her ass off after giving so many modifiers like she promised to in alcatraz but what exactly does your modifier do again?
Apr 19, 2017 11:33 PM

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CorruptedPurity said:
Lam-B said:
My claim will be gross too, well half of my role claim the rest doesn't need to be touched for now.
I have a passive Ascetic modifier.

I know that suzu is most prob laughing her ass off after giving so many modifiers like she promised to in alcatraz but what exactly does your modifier do again?


It's a horrible time.
Essentially anything that isn't a bullet can't touch me, in the sense that anything else that touches me will instead be automatically role-blocked.
Apr 19, 2017 11:35 PM

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Lam-B said:
CorruptedPurity said:

I know that suzu is most prob laughing her ass off after giving so many modifiers like she promised to in alcatraz but what exactly does your modifier do again?


It's a horrible time.
Essentially anything that isn't a bullet can't touch me, in the sense that anything else that touches me will instead be automatically role-blocked.


I have made sure to check this against the host already too.
It does actually role-block passively as opposed to being untouchable.
Apr 19, 2017 11:49 PM

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Lam-B said:
CorruptedPurity said:

I know that suzu is most prob laughing her ass off after giving so many modifiers like she promised to in alcatraz but what exactly does your modifier do again?


It's a horrible time.
Essentially anything that isn't a bullet can't touch me, in the sense that anything else that touches me will instead be automatically role-blocked.

Passive roleblocking? Interesting as it could have some synergy with my role. I wanna ask host something but I fear she cant answer it as it'll autoconfirm your claim and make you a confirmed town. I'll PM her either ways, but don't expect much.
Apr 20, 2017 1:39 AM

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Its too quiet here, even for the night phase =w=

Apr 20, 2017 1:41 AM

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Is Ruu scummy for that flip? Or more scummy because of that claim?

Apr 20, 2017 1:58 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Is Ruu scummy for that flip? Or more scummy because of that claim?


Scummy for the claim the flip has little impact on them been scum since they did not take part in it, the way they backed out of it and ended the day with no vote does though since they have history of not voting as scum.
Apr 20, 2017 2:02 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Its too quiet here, even for the night phase =w=


Cause some commotion then, claim that you potentially have a gamesolve or smth hard to believe.
Apr 20, 2017 2:08 AM

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aa-dono said:
logic340 said:
I gave my reasoning here in #761
This is kinda' weird for a reason since you said you're comfortable with grrr's lynch because of the people in it yet you join a train lynching the people in it.


This is a good point and one I considered .It makes no sense and only world it would make sense is if Logic does not care who gets lynched as long as he can blame others for it.
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CorruptedPurity said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Its too quiet here, even for the night phase =w=


Cause some commotion then, claim that you potentially have a gamesolve or smth hard to believe.
Hmm Okay... I have been reread, and I have noticed something. I was going to save it for later but...



//edit Actually no I have totally figured it out this time bare with me

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Apr 20, 2017 2:25 AM

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Yooooo, how does everyone feel about trying to purposely get a tie next phase?

Apr 20, 2017 2:32 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Yooooo, how does everyone feel about trying to purposely get a tie next phase?


What would we gain from a tie.
Apr 20, 2017 3:15 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Coelestin said:

Just finding his reasons a bit forced, tho I'm just stuck myself and don't really know what to do so yeah. I just followed grrr out of curiosity mostly, a bit of boredom to see if grape has something to say after grrr's "outing". Dunno why grrr voted for him though. Grape's still generally falling under the radar so I guess it's not too bad.


...this sounds like you're role fishing.

Does mafia actually come up with such plans? Is mafia creative enough to come up with such plans? Would they actually take the risk to execute such plans? I wouldn't think so.


So much for u being a town read, you literally voting him cause ur stuck without a good idea of where to go next? Uhm Ruu is still alive lol, also grape has an unorthodox opinion on alot of matters so of course alot of the stuff he does seems forced its not supicious at all.

Idk why ur actually comparing normal players to anton like he is part of that norm when u know he isnt, it's true grrr does everything for a reason but thatcould be scum motivation.

Why should I vote for Ruu when she's not there and my vote on her would literally do nothing? I could have always gotten her lynched later and I knew that.
And I’ve never played with grape before, there’s no way I could know that. When I voted for him earlier in the day, I got little complaints on the vote other than from himself. Interestingly enough no one followed me on the train despite the lack of complaints and even some people who agreed with my views on him. So why does it bother you now?

Sure, everything can be scum motivation, grrr could be scum for all I know and laughing his ass of that I'm actually defending him. However, even grrr is human, trusting him is a conscious choice, and I'm bold enough to explicitly stand by my reads without hesitation. Of course I am capable of changing my mind if there's good reason to, however, I don't see a good reason to do that yet.

And your posts after this one show that you're putting me on the high pedestal again. It's always the same with you.

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Ruu said:
I almost died today? Lol Sorry for being a ghost, rl got in the way. If there is a cop and they want to check me tonight go ahead. You will get a guilty result cause I'm the Miller. Yep, I'm everyone's favourite role to fake claim. This is my first time having this role so I panicked. One thing is to rolled VT or mafia but rolling Miller? I got a grrr-ish role. Anyways I will try to catch up.

Vig shoot her. Just shoot, dont ask questions.


CorruptedPurity said:
Chione: I did not see it coming that you would vote Lucy. Definitely suspicious, you were one of the last person I thought would vote him considering how you were so against his train early on.

I get how you'd get the idea that I was against his train considering that I asked you and Ruu these questions. But read again. I was never against his train, nor did I state that I was in favor of it.

Short personal take on on the lynch.
- the mislynch is mostly my fault.
- I overestimated Luce's town game. That's the main fault of my reasoning.
- no one tried to stop me except for Penta a bit, who tried to convince me of the Ruu lynch instead, but I was too stubborn on my read.
- contrary to what Shinichi might think, I didn't not vote for Ruu because she wasn't present during the phase end, but because I had more confidence in my Lucy read. I told that Penta as well during the last 20 mins.
- fact is that there was uneasiness around Luce before the last 30 mins already, and the uneasiness didn't stem from the ones who were on the train. Apparently I was just able to put the finger on the uneasiness for people to actually go after it.
- suddenly going for him in the last 30 mins was generally a bad idea of mine.

Granted, shitty play from my side for sure, but I was just so certain on Luce when I reread his posts at that point.

I probably should just go back to making these laborious read lists of mine instead of trying to wing it without them, relying on gut isn't good for me. *sighs* Gonna try to do that once I've gotten over my mistakes and get the time to do so.
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Qoco said:
logic340 said:
Should of been you but I couldn't get the support I needed.


You legit remind me of those crazy alien conspiracy theorists.
Maybe there are no mafia in this game? IJS

Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Qoco said:


You legit remind me of those crazy alien conspiracy theorists.


Thank you Rosie XD
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Jackrito said:
aa-dono said:
This is kinda' weird for a reason since you said you're comfortable with grrr's lynch because of the people in it yet you join a train lynching the people in it.


This is a good point and one I considered .It makes no sense and only world it would make sense is if Logic does not care who gets lynched as long as he can blame others for it.
Id he blaming others for it? Logic could have caused a no lynch but you specifically asked me not to do that? So I get on a lead train an now "it doesn't matter who gets lynched". Well Jack it does matter it needs to be mafia and any other factions that are a threat to the town.
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logic340 said:
Jackrito said:


This is a good point and one I considered .It makes no sense and only world it would make sense is if Logic does not care who gets lynched as long as he can blame others for it.
Id he blaming others for it? Logic could have caused a no lynch but you specifically asked me not to do that? So I get on a lead train an now "it doesn't matter who gets lynched". Well Jack it does matter it needs to be mafia and any other factions that are a threat to the town.


I never said it does not matter who gets lynched I went with my scum read. I was wrong my bad. The no lynch would of caused more harm and I stand by that I would rather gamble on my scum read them do nothing you don't win unless you lynch. My issue is not you mislynches that can happen as town. my issue is you voted someone who you did not scum read and even agrred with on grr.
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logic340 said:
Coelestin said:
@logic340 Who is the most suspicious: Grrr, Lucy or Ruu?
Probably Lucian at this point though his insistence on grrr matches his town meta from other games I have read. Ruu has a red flag from me right now due to her RVS talk. This is ususally where I can make the distinction between scum ruu and town ruu. Jackrito also picked up on it. grrr as I told Grapefruit the lengthy RVS vote makes me more comfortable with grrr than a blank one based on experience. grrr also appears to be more helpful as scum than as town and I get the less helpful vibe to this point so town lean there.

Ruu or Lucian for scum but not both. They are definitely unaligned and it could even be Town/Town. If they are the leading trains still then I might even bet on it being t/t.
I want people to think about this right here. What are the chances of T/T like I said when I posted this?
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For the record, this town lynch is still infinitely better than a no lynch because we're definitely getting important information. I like Chione's response in the fact that she willingly takes responsibility for the mislynch instead of trying to hide it out and blame others, it's a good town marker because it invites us to question her more and town wouldn't mind that as they have nothing to hide but maf would definitely not want to be questioned like that.
+ town points for chione. She's not free from questioning though, just that I see her in a slightly better light now.
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logic340 said:
logic340 said:
Probably Lucian at this point though his insistence on grrr matches his town meta from other games I have read. Ruu has a red flag from me right now due to her RVS talk. This is ususally where I can make the distinction between scum ruu and town ruu. Jackrito also picked up on it. grrr as I told Grapefruit the lengthy RVS vote makes me more comfortable with grrr than a blank one based on experience. grrr also appears to be more helpful as scum than as town and I get the less helpful vibe to this point so town lean there.

Ruu or Lucian for scum but not both. They are definitely unaligned and it could even be Town/Town. If they are the leading trains still then I might even bet on it being t/t.
I want people to think about this right here. What are the chances of T/T like I said when I posted this?


Pretty sure Ruu is scum their lack of presense and lack of voting, added with their reverse on Lucian and that claim are some of the worst things I have seen in a while. The chances of them been so bad and also Miller would be pretty amazing.
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Jackrito said:
logic340 said:
Id he blaming others for it? Logic could have caused a no lynch but you specifically asked me not to do that? So I get on a lead train an now "it doesn't matter who gets lynched". Well Jack it does matter it needs to be mafia and any other factions that are a threat to the town.


I never said it does not matter who gets lynched I went with my scum read. I was wrong my bad. The no lynch would of caused more harm and I stand by that I would rather gamble on my scum read them do nothing you don't win unless you lynch. My issue is not you mislynches that can happen as town. my issue is you voted someone who you did not scum read and even agrred with on grr.
I understand why you voted for Lucian. I was asked if I would vote with Penta, like them or not, I gave my reasons for joining said train. I tried to push Qoco but that didn't work out. Maybe I will have better luck on D2.

Now I have few other general questions that maybe you could help me with:
-Ascetic Modifier is it solely a town modifier or can scum have it too?
-With so many wanting Ruu Vigged if that dose happen and she flips town who's to blame the vig? Or everyone who wanted Ruu dead?
-Do we look into the people who wanted Ruu dead if she flips town or do we just continue on with the Lucian train?
-Karote hung onto their RVS vote all the way to phase change why isn't anyone suspicious of that? When they were suspicious of Lucian for holding his for 10 pages?
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Jackrito said:
logic340 said:
I want people to think about this right here. What are the chances of T/T like I said when I posted this?


Pretty sure Ruu is scum their lack of presense and lack of voting, added with their reverse on Lucian and that claim are some of the worst things I have seen in a while. The chances of them been so bad and also Miller would be pretty amazing.
you've played with scum Ruu recently in a game where she won. Do you really think she plays scum this poorly here? I believe Ruu is poor as town because she rolls scum so much she has very little actual town experience. Something like 5/7 game I have played with her she was scum and I know she has had at least 2 other scum game I didn't play with her. So I can see why her town game isn't that strong. Now is possibly losing a second town worth it? That is what I would like to know?
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Ascetic is like Miller. It is always a town role, but can be fakeclaimed to avoid being investigated. It's even more powerful a fakeclaim because nobody will roleblock you.
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Ruu isn't playing badly. Ruu is playing scummy. There is a difference. Ruu is actively trying to play the game, make cases, develop reads, but a scum motive can be seen in it.

Playing badly is when you a player is simply wrong about their approach, like when grrr was convinced that anyone who claimed a basic role would be town or when he voted me for refusing to answer him. That's bad play, because it is just the wrong approach, but Ruu's is scummy play.
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Jackrito said:


Pretty sure Ruu is scum their lack of presense and lack of voting, added with their reverse on Lucian and that claim are some of the worst things I have seen in a while. The chances of them been so bad and also Miller would be pretty amazing.
you've played with scum Ruu recently in a game where she won. Do you really think she plays scum this poorly here? I believe Ruu is poor as town because she rolls scum so much she has very little actual town experience. Something like 5/7 game I have played with her she was scum and I know she has had at least 2 other scum game I didn't play with her. So I can see why her town game isn't that strong. Now is possibly losing a second town worth it? That is what I would like to know?


Their play is not that of a bad townie in my view though they is a fear of commitment as shown by the no vote and how they are always in catch up mode.In the last game they started off just as bad and I called them out on it but then they disapppered for a day. When they came back I had got stuck on a bad townie and so they went under my radar. This has a chance of happening again based off the second part of day 1.
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Ruu isn't playing badly. Ruu is playing scummy. There is a difference. Ruu is actively trying to play the game, make cases, develop reads, but a scum motive can be seen in it.

Playing badly is when you a player is simply wrong about their approach, like when grrr was convinced that anyone who claimed a basic role would be town or when he voted me for refusing to answer him. That's bad play, because it is just the wrong approach, but Ruu's is scummy play.
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logic340 said:
you've played with scum Ruu recently in a game where she won. Do you really think she plays scum this poorly here? I believe Ruu is poor as town because she rolls scum so much she has very little actual town experience. Something like 5/7 game I have played with her she was scum and I know she has had at least 2 other scum game I didn't play with her. So I can see why her town game isn't that strong. Now is possibly losing a second town worth it? That is what I would like to know?


Their play is not that of a bad townie in my view though they is a fear of commitment as shown by the no vote and how they are always in catch up mode.In the last game they started off just as bad and I called them out on it but then they disapppered for a day. When they came back I had got stuck on a bad townie and so they went under my radar. This has a chance of happening again based off the second part of day 1.

If she flips town are you going to retract these statements?
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@logic340 every time you lynch anyone you risk a town dead on the ground.

Anyway you never answered my question about what scum Qoco gets from lying. I see the fact you are pointing out, but I don't see how that lie is scum motivated.

Anyway if I don't wake up: Logic is probably always town here, jack and Penta have been largely town as well and shouldn't be looked at yet. If Ruu survives the night they need to die. Assuming the vig follows through I'm very interested in Shinichi, Qoco, grrr, and Rosie off wagon as a fall back, but would rather try to start with the wagon and see where some pressure leads us.
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Jackrito said:
logic340 said:
you've played with scum Ruu recently in a game where she won. Do you really think she plays scum this poorly here? I believe Ruu is poor as town because she rolls scum so much she has very little actual town experience. Something like 5/7 game I have played with her she was scum and I know she has had at least 2 other scum game I didn't play with her. So I can see why her town game isn't that strong. Now is possibly losing a second town worth it? That is what I would like to know?


Their play is not that of a bad townie in my view though they is a fear of commitment as shown by the no vote and how they are always in catch up mode.In the last game they started off just as bad and I called them out on it but then they disapppered for a day. When they came back I had got stuck on a bad townie and so they went under my radar. This has a chance of happening again based off the second part of day 1.
Fair enough I can understand your concern though it sounds similar to my early D1 suspicion of Lam-B that got me so much heat?
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