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Jackrito said:
I will say this flip is making me townread Logic a bit more then I did before. His reaction to the lynch seems too emotional to be forced if scum I doubt he could fake this annoyance. Maybe he did when scum though did not pay attention to that game though.

Jackrito said:


Why are them 3 town.

Shinichi-Kun said:


How bout instead of that people actually lynch players for being scummy instead of babying them cause they say they won't be here for phase change. Now i am actually fustrated.

You and Chione one of u 2 is def scum on that train.

I gotta love when players sink so much effort to a game and cant man up to take the blame when they actually screw up instead of getting mad at the people who were busy or just werent staring at the game.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Ruu and uhm Ruu

Since when does being here or not warrent who actually gets lynched.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Ruu and uhm Ruu

Since when does being here or not warrent who actually gets lynched.

Coelestin said:
@ everyone Would you all agree with a Ruu lynch considering our options?

@logic340 Would you vote for Luce with me if I wanted to lynch him?

@Suzune-chan Jack is on Ruu if I recall correctly.

Grapefruit21 said:
Sorry I missed the phase change. My morning has been awful and involved too many bodily fluids...

Anyway I'll catch up later... No promises.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Dont u dare let someone slide cause of 1 simple reaction, how bout you go read CP posts after the alcatraz phase change before u assume emotions can judge an alignment

Shinichi-Kun said:


Purity was emotional in alc thats how i knew he was scum and grape tunneled super hard.

Jackrito said:


When did I say that it should, this was a response to Karote blameing others for doing it. If I think someone is scum I will vote them, I will feel bad about it but lost too many games to lurking scum.

On ruu read yeah that is for sure a option and one I wish I stuck with in hidesight, did not want to make the mistake from last game and let someone live when I scumread them early which is part of reason why I changed back.

It is easy to criticise after the event.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Dont u dare let someone slide cause of 1 simple reaction, how bout you go read CP posts after the alcatraz phase change before u assume emotions can judge an alignment

Shinichi-Kun said:


why

Jackrito said:


Did I say it is a solid town read, just that I liked it. also comparing CP and Logic is not the same some people can fake emotion while others can not, give me evidence of fake logic emotion and I will agree.

logic340 said:
My alignment will show itself don't you worry about that. Also you said either me or Chione is scum on the train why couldn't it be Penta?

Jackrito said:


That looks bad but do you think Chione goes that out of their way if scum to save Ruu and vote Lucian after flip it will get them killed.

logic340 said:
Are you trying to tell me that I am wrong in this? They are clearly talking about me and not grapefruit or purity here. Qoco lied about what he knows about how I played as town. Why would town Qoco lie about how I play as town? What benefit does that give him in his conversation with Grapefruit?

logic340 said:
He had more of a chance than Ruu who was gone for hours. I wasn't even the deciding factor. Hopefully you'll be more active and involved maybe you can shoulder some of the blame if you participate.

I love it when people are gone for hours then complain about the lynch. Do something about it if you are really bothered by it.

Logic out!

Jackrito said:


He was actually here and was a lynch option all day so they had time to defend themselfs. So playing the blame game here helps no one. Who would you rather we lynched because other options were not on either so would be the same as what you say here..

Shinichi-Kun said:


Cause i havent gotten to the point where penta voted yet so i cant judge him just yet

Shinichi-Kun said:


U asked who would be the better option since the other options werent online so i would presume that means u werent willing to vote ruu since she couldnt defend yourself but instead are ok with lucian mainly cause he was on.

Of course i will criticise, like hello ruu has actually been scummy even with her limited posts but people felt sorry for her because she went to bed like wtf.

logic340 said:
Shinichi might be scum here. He isn't guilt shaming me for lynching town again.

And her I though I was leaving.....
Can I hold you to the lynch people for being scummy line in every game or does it just work here? Because I seem to remember a certain someone acting scummy for 5 straight phases voting on me and everyone said to just let it be?

You would have to ask Karote that since he is the one who said that we didn't give Lucian a chance to defend himself?

Shinichi-Kun said:


chione is perfectly capable of defending herself so yes

PentaFlare said:
Vote: LucianRoy
Tiebreaker. No choice

PentaFlare said:

I think it is the best call right now. As much as I wish I could see a defense from Ruu, I still have a scumread on Ruu. I don't like the other options, so I the best plan is to lynch a scumread.
Vote: Ruu

Jackrito said:


I asked Karote this not you since he took issue, also look at the voting you will see when I voted Lucian he was not on either so this is not true, at no point did i say it was to do with Ruu not been on. I was happy with either but I went with my inital scum read and one I felt stronger on,

Jackrito said:


Yes they are but that is a pretty bad spot to put oneself in this early if they know the flips. I can't see anyone doing that so early, but Chione is someone I can never read so maybe they are more ballsy then I think.

logic340 said:
So reserve your judgment until you have all the facts. What good is accusing me and Chione if you don't like what you see from Penta turn around and accuse him? Are well all scum together?

Shinichi-Kun said:


I honestly dont get this conversation at all, not sure what im suppose to be figuring out.

logic340 said:
Vote: LucianRoy
I like causing ties. Lets see who wants to go which way.

Coelestin said:

Kay.
Vote: LucianRoy

PentaFlare said:

I'm just not understanding why the people on the train are so important? If I'm voting for someone, it is probably because I think they are the scummiest person at the moment. That makes everyone on their train less scummy than them by default. The only time it would matter is if there are only 2 leading trains and the person I think is scummiest isn't one of them, but that isn't the case here. I could try and lead a lynch on whoever I want, but I am choosing to join Ruu's train again. That's because I think Ruu is scummy.

I'm not going to base who we lynch off a townreads on other players, because town can be wrong. I won't sheep a player I trust just because I trust them. That's how you play as town. You focus on developing your own reads and you pursue your own reads. You can follow people onto a train, but only if it is because you agree with their reasoning, not just because of generic trust.

The people who focus a bunch on who is on what train are scum. They want to avoid voting for with their partners. It also allows them to be a little free of blame for a mislynch because they voted with "someone they trusted", who just "happened to be wrong". I've seen it many times.

So no, I'm not answering your question because I think it is a bad question. If you don't like the reasons some of the people have for voting for Ruu, that's fine, but it doesn't invalidate the ones I've presented myself.

Shinichi-Kun said:


How u gonna compare me and grrr tho lol like wtf are you serious?

logic340 said:
That's the sad part there is nothing to figure out I laid it out right there so you wouldn't have to think about it.

Put yourself in Qoco's shoes for just a second shinichi.
You know I play emotionally as town
You just got out of a game where you were scum and I was town.
CP and Grapefruit are having a conversation about my demeanor as town
You weigh in on it and say I was super emotional in the last game
Grapefruit asks you why you brought that up what relevance it has to this game? Does it make me town?
You tell grapefruit you don't know if I am emotional as twon (which is a lie)
I catch the lie and call you out on it.
You say that you can't talk about it because the game is still ongoing and you don't know my alignment (true the game is still ongoing but anyone who reads it will know my alignment so another lie).
Now you lie again and say you were talking about Grapefruit,

Tell me why or how any town would do all this lying and what it does for us? You said lynch people for scummy behavior yet I present you with scummy behavior and you defend it ignorantly.

I am getting annoyed here I am really out this time.

Shinichi-Kun said:


@jackrito what ya think about this post?



and this one?

Shinichi-Kun said:


Hmm ur contradicting yourself because you got mad at claire for lieing too about a role when she was town, so that alone tells you town can lie too right?

Shinichi-Kun said:


Ok fair enough so what do u think about the lucian train then?

Shinichi-Kun said:


@jackrito what ya think about this post?



and this one?

Jackrito said:


I could see it been all town as weird as that sounds, I would need to reread the thread to see their reasons just on looking though. I would say Dono looks the most strange since they were on their the longest but they are not on to change but their reasons for it were a bit weak from memory. Logic would be my next most likely since thier change was to create a tie rather then actual scum read and I don't think they ever scum read them unless I missed it this just seems real bad.

Next likely would be Chione since they pushed the lynch but that does not make them scum since townies can force a mislynch and their reasons did make sense to me. Not one I can get behind as strongly but is possible. How upfront they are about it adds to my doubts of scum Chione, but they is advs of removing Lucian though if she is scum I need more time to look at their day one and others views here.

Finally is Penta they did it to break a tie which can be seen as town but also scum if they know the flips since a mislynch is better then a no lynch because it cuts down towns numbers. . I would like to see Ruu's role before I think more on Penta, their play has come off to me as largely town though so out of all votes I see them as most town.

Grapefruit21 said:
@ Anyone: How bold is Coelestin as scum? A link to a scum game of theirs would be greatly appreciated.

logic340 said:
I gave my reasoning here in #761

logic340 said:
You still haven't answered my question though Shinihci so I will wait to answer your. What benefit does he get from lying about what he knows about how I act as town? You are not making any sense here answer a goddamn question.

Qoco man he lied about my town game while talking to grapefruit.

PentaFlare said:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1489715

Jackrito said:


Damn did you have to link that one. this is the game that proved to me I can't read them at all and one I regret the most since I lost town the game.

PentaFlare said:

I was in final 4 with you, also as town. Not either of our best moments :P

logic340 said:
I gave my reasoning here in #761

logic340 said:
Maybe because it happened to me is why I am the only one who sees it and thinks it's an issue. Put yourself In my shoes. Someone inserts themselves in a conversation about you straight up lies about you multiple times are you not going to find it scummy? Are you not going to speak out on it?