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Feb 9, 2017 2:44 PM

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so game could be..

t: jailor, cop, vig

s: framer, roleblocker

seems like it would work?










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Feb 9, 2017 2:45 PM

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Based on the Soren/Ruu interactions I am inclined to believe #2. This would mean that they tried to kill Ruu/DarkInvader instead of Kit.
The reason I cannot say not to #1 is because DarthInvader has done nothing to help us gain an understanding of that slot since they took over. Not sure what to think of them right now.
What if the Soren/Ruu interactions were distancing, so if one flips the other looks like town? I don't think that's impossible. It seems like it gave some serious town cred to Ruu's slot


This is possible but why try to lynch them on day one if true, the only reason they lived is because we all decided bunny looked worse later on, they is no way Soren could back on that.
Feb 9, 2017 2:47 PM

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Jackrito said:
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What if the Soren/Ruu interactions were distancing, so if one flips the other looks like town? I don't think that's impossible. It seems like it gave some serious town cred to Ruu's slot


This is possible but why try to lynch them on day one if true, the only reason they lived is because we all decided bunny looked worse later on, they is no way Soren could back on that.
i mean i think they could have been planning on either soren or ruu to get lynched. though that doesn't sound like a great plan.










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Feb 9, 2017 2:48 PM

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I just reaaaally can't believe Sollux is lying here, no matter how weird it makes the Soren/Ruu thing look










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If Ruu was town and only lied about being roleblocker, there's no way she could be confident that Soren would confirm her roleblock claim. And I'm not sure scum soren would confirm a fake roleblock from town ruu, or why town ruu would say soren is town for agreeing with her lie
the only explanation here is Ruu is fake claiming roleblocker as scum and Soren went along and confirm the existence of a roleblocker. Maybe it is like what I initially suspected that either of the 2 scums are going to get lynched and Soren was the unfortunate one to take the hit.

In a world where Ruu/Darth got lynched instead of Soren, Ruu would probably have flipped perhaps a mafia goon and we will start questioning Soren's claim.

It is really weird on how things went down Day 2. If both Soren and Darth are scum, then there was no mafia among the lynching voters. Because it is more rational for scum to lynch Darth and keep Soren. Soren is a stronk player, no offence to Darth. xDD


If I am going to buy the existence of town roleblocker and jailor then Scum vig should exist. Muehehe

Or if we confirm scum jailor then Sollux is scum. I highly doubt since he just stepped in without any pressure at all.

Scum jailor? That's a thing?
Feb 9, 2017 2:49 PM

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Kit said:
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Ruu might still be scum roleblocker, making soren's roleblocked claim look legit, if that's the claim you're referring to
Also, if Ruu/Darth is roleblocker and was jailed, that COULD explain why I wasn't roleblocked, if wen is scum. they dont really have any other confirmed PR to rb but i'm sure if they know i'm gonna shoot town they would just let me and not rb me. hm.
it was already confirmed that roleblocks occur at the same time. So if Darth was scum and wanted to RB you, you shouldve been roleblocked.

Need to confirm tho since I asked about roleblockers and ddnt mention a jailor in my question. They might work differently.

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Feb 9, 2017 2:51 PM

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Kit said:
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This is possible but why try to lynch them on day one if true, the only reason they lived is because we all decided bunny looked worse later on, they is no way Soren could back on that.
i mean i think they could have been planning on either soren or ruu to get lynched. though that doesn't sound like a great plan.


Based off Soren's start and known level of lurking if scum, I would of bussed him any day to be honest, espically since I see framer as a pointless role. It is possible Ruu is just a goon, but even say throwing away a teammate day one without need is mad. But this claim stuff is so bad I want to lynch it, I will say if Ruu is scum end of day 2 makes a lot more sense since a lurking framer is pointless, once cop is dead. So would be a better option to bus and save Ruu.
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Sollux16 said:
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the only explanation here is Ruu is fake claiming roleblocker as scum and Soren went along and confirm the existence of a roleblocker. Maybe it is like what I initially suspected that either of the 2 scums are going to get lynched and Soren was the unfortunate one to take the hit.

In a world where Ruu/Darth got lynched instead of Soren, Ruu would probably have flipped perhaps a mafia goon and we will start questioning Soren's claim.

It is really weird on how things went down Day 2. If both Soren and Darth are scum, then there was no mafia among the lynching voters. Because it is more rational for scum to lynch Darth and keep Soren. Soren is a stronk player, no offence to Darth. xDD


If I am going to buy the existence of town roleblocker and jailor then Scum vig should exist. Muehehe

Or if we confirm scum jailor then Sollux is scum. I highly doubt since he just stepped in without any pressure at all.

Scum jailor? That's a thing?
yeah my mind is what you called role madness lel.

I should remember that the game is Basic. I will

Vote DarthInvader

He is useless. Jailor is even better strategically.

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DenjaX said:
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Also, if Ruu/Darth is roleblocker and was jailed, that COULD explain why I wasn't roleblocked, if wen is scum. they dont really have any other confirmed PR to rb but i'm sure if they know i'm gonna shoot town they would just let me and not rb me. hm.
it was already confirmed that roleblocks occur at the same time. So if Darth was scum and wanted to RB you, you shouldve been roleblocked.

Need to confirm tho since I asked about roleblockers and ddnt mention a jailor in my question. They might work differently.
oh yeah, you're right, i would have been roleblocked in that situation. Then I think wen is town and they wanted to let me kill off a town for them










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A bit off topic but do we know who has not claimed yet, character and role. Is it just me Cross, Logic and Denjax but he says wolf. This may sound weird but can I get a character claim off all. I do have a method to this madness.
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Jackrito said:
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i mean i think they could have been planning on either soren or ruu to get lynched. though that doesn't sound like a great plan.


Based off Soren's start and known level of lurking if scum, I would of bussed him any day to be honest, espically since I see framer as a pointless role. It is possible Ruu is just a goon, but even say throwing away a teammate day one without need is mad. But this claim stuff is so bad I want to lynch it, I will say if Ruu is scum end of day 2 makes a lot more sense since a lurking framer is pointless, once cop is dead. So would be a better option to bus and save Ruu.
Huh? Darth was on Togs, so who is the scum on Soren's D2 train you're suggesting? I mean bussing him would make sense no matter who the team mates are because yeah framer with no cop is pointless. Would have made most sense with Togs/cross as scum buds o_o










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Kit said:
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Based on the Soren/Ruu interactions I am inclined to believe #2. This would mean that they tried to kill Ruu/DarkInvader instead of Kit.
The reason I cannot say not to #1 is because DarthInvader has done nothing to help us gain an understanding of that slot since they took over. Not sure what to think of them right now.
What if the Soren/Ruu interactions were distancing, so if one flips the other looks like town? I don't think that's impossible. It seems like it gave some serious town cred to Ruu's slot
That argument could be made in many situations and is the same one I used against Crossbell for arguing with Soren while town reading him? and voting him while town reading him? Distancing. Ruu/Soren/Crossbell scum team? I'm just trying to think of everything. I really wish Darth would have just posted that would have helped clear things up as well.
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Jackrito said:
A bit off topic but do we know who has not claimed yet, character and role. Is it just me Cross, Logic and Denjax but he says wolf. This may sound weird but can I get a character claim off all. I do have a method to this madness.
i am pretty sure every person who researched the theme should know who I am. I am the other dog.

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Feb 9, 2017 2:58 PM

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Kit said:
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Based off Soren's start and known level of lurking if scum, I would of bussed him any day to be honest, espically since I see framer as a pointless role. It is possible Ruu is just a goon, but even say throwing away a teammate day one without need is mad. But this claim stuff is so bad I want to lynch it, I will say if Ruu is scum end of day 2 makes a lot more sense since a lurking framer is pointless, once cop is dead. So would be a better option to bus and save Ruu.
Huh? Darth was on Togs, so who is the scum on Soren's D2 train you're suggesting? I mean bussing him would make sense no matter who the team mates are because yeah framer with no cop is pointless. Would have made most sense with Togs/cross as scum buds o_o


I still think a scum is in Cross or Togs not sure which
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@Kit if Darth flip town RB, what are you gonna do to Sollux?

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Feb 9, 2017 2:59 PM

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Jackrito said:
A bit off topic but do we know who has not claimed yet, character and role. Is it just me Cross, Logic and Denjax but he says wolf. This may sound weird but can I get a character claim off all. I do have a method to this madness.
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logic340 said:
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What if the Soren/Ruu interactions were distancing, so if one flips the other looks like town? I don't think that's impossible. It seems like it gave some serious town cred to Ruu's slot
That argument could be made in many situations and is the same one I used against Crossbell for arguing with Soren while town reading him? and voting him while town reading him? Distancing. Ruu/Soren/Crossbell scum team? I'm just trying to think of everything. I really wish Darth would have just posted that would have helped clear things up as well.
yeah i haven't cleared cross i still think he's scum
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Huh? Darth was on Togs, so who is the scum on Soren's D2 train you're suggesting? I mean bussing him would make sense no matter who the team mates are because yeah framer with no cop is pointless. Would have made most sense with Togs/cross as scum buds o_o


I still think a scum is in Cross or Togs not sure which
maybe we should jail one and vig shoot the other :b
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@Kit if Darth flip town RB, what are you gonna do to Sollux?
Put sol in jail for lying to me










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logic340 said:
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A bit off topic but do we know who has not claimed yet, character and role. Is it just me Cross, Logic and Denjax but he says wolf. This may sound weird but can I get a character claim off all. I do have a method to this madness.
Gladiolus Amicitia


Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
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Jackrito said:
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Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
Were you looking for a pattern or something?










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Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
you keep mentioning about flavour hunting. Share it. I have done research too.

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Kit said:
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Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
Were you looking for a pattern or something?
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Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
Were you looking for a pattern or something?


Yeah it was a bit of a mad pattern tbh but one I have had in mind a while.
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@Kit are you saying you are gonna kill Sollux if Darth flipped town RB?

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DenjaX said:
@Kit are you saying you are gonna kill Sollux if Darth flipped town RB?
I can't guarantee what I will do N3










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Kit said:
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@Kit are you saying you are gonna kill Sollux if Darth flipped town RB?
I can't guarantee what I will do N3
I am actually scared of you right now when you declare something sinister with that forum set... ;-;

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DenjaX said:
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I can't guarantee what I will do N3
I am actually scared of you right now when you declare something sinister with that forum set... ;-;
lol
relax, I'm just saying I can't predict if there will be new info by then, and I haven't thoroughly considered what that means about sollux if darth flips town rb. and why scum would behave as sollux does










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DenjaX said:
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Ok never mind that may of ruined things, lol. So much for that route carry on.
you keep mentioning about flavour hunting. Share it. I have done research too.


Ok why not the idea why that mafia, where the Main characters in the game, while town would be villians, side characters and people not even in game. Soren flip backed this but I trust Logic. Lol this plan was never going to work
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Jackrito said:
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you keep mentioning about flavour hunting. Share it. I have done research too.


Ok why not the idea why that mafia, where the Main characters in the game, while town would be villians, side characters and people not even in game. Soren flip backed this but I trust Logic. Lol this plan was never going to work
did you claim? Who are you?

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Kit said:
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I am actually scared of you right now when you declare something sinister with that forum set... ;-;
lol
relax, I'm just saying I can't predict if there will be new info by then, and I haven't thoroughly considered what that means about sollux if darth flips town rb. and why scum would behave as sollux does
maybe Darth roleblocked the mafia killer and since Darth wasnt around yet they try to make the initiative to get rid of him before he starts singing?

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DenjaX said:
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Ok why not the idea why that mafia, where the Main characters in the game, while town would be villians, side characters and people not even in game. Soren flip backed this but I trust Logic. Lol this plan was never going to work
did you claim? Who are you?
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Jackrito said:


Ok why not the idea why that mafia, where the Main characters in the game, while town would be villians, side characters and people not even in game. Soren flip backed this but I trust Logic. Lol this plan was never going to work
did you claim? Who are you?
I'm Iris Amicitia little sis of Logic's character
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DenjaX said:
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lol
relax, I'm just saying I can't predict if there will be new info by then, and I haven't thoroughly considered what that means about sollux if darth flips town rb. and why scum would behave as sollux does
maybe Darth roleblocked the mafia killer and since Darth wasnt around yet they try to make the initiative to get rid of him before he starts singing?
Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural










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Kit said:
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maybe Darth roleblocked the mafia killer and since Darth wasnt around yet they try to make the initiative to get rid of him before he starts singing?
Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural
it is either get caught now or later. If I was scum, id act right away and not wait for them to call me out xDD not saying that Sollux is totes scum though.

I just have the hard time swallowing the idea of Soren and Ruu being teammates...

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DenjaX said:
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Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural
it is either get caught now or later. If I was scum, id act right away and not wait for them to call me out xDD not saying that Sollux is totes scum though.

I just have the hard time swallowing the idea of Soren and Ruu being teammates...
Hmm well if Darth flips town roleblocker then I guess it will be obvious Sollux can't be jailer and we will have to go after them, then.










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Kit said:
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it is either get caught now or later. If I was scum, id act right away and not wait for them to call me out xDD not saying that Sollux is totes scum though.

I just have the hard time swallowing the idea of Soren and Ruu being teammates...
Hmm well if Darth flips town roleblocker then I guess it will be obvious Sollux can't be jailer and we will have to go after them, then.
and considering sol didn't understand why town would lie, they don't have the option of claiming lying town










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Kit said:
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maybe Darth roleblocked the mafia killer and since Darth wasnt around yet they try to make the initiative to get rid of him before he starts singing?
Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural

Who do you guys want me to jail the next night? That's the only way I can think of to prove I'm Jailer
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Could there be a mafia double killer?
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We need CADAEMOS and DarthInvader in the thread allot of this is hinging on them. I wish Crossbell and Togs were here as well. Rinto-kun it's time to separate yourself from this group.
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Sollux16 said:
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Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural

Who do you guys want me to jail the next night? That's the only way I can think of to prove I'm Jailer
i guess if you want to clear yourself you should jail someone who most of us agree is town, but if Darth flips scum you will be confirmed anyway so don't bother. You should target mafia to prevent the next kill










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Could there be a mafia double killer?
Are you calling me a liar? lol










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Could there be a mafia double killer?
Are you calling me a liar? lol
you're my strongest town read. I'm just throwing out ideas.
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Who do you guys want me to jail the next night? That's the only way I can think of to prove I'm Jailer
i guess if you want to clear yourself you should jail someone who most of us agree is town, but if Darth flips scum you will be confirmed anyway so don't bother. You should target mafia to prevent the next kill
especially if Darth flips town..do Soren/Crossbell take extremely opposing views on Ruu as scum?
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What does scum gain by not night killing? In world where Darth really is town Role blocker? If we mislynch Darth they figured there is no protection for Kit (they didn't know about Jailer). Then they kill Kit N3.

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Hm, you think sol made the counter claim to discredit darth for a mislynch? sol's claim seemed pretty natural

Who do you guys want me to jail the next night? That's the only way I can think of to prove I'm Jailer
we have some time to think about this as a lot depends on the next lynch. I would say we should as a group narrow it down to three options and let you pick from there.
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@DenjaX you around?
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you around?
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Is shad or Claire the type to make a town roleblocker to throw us off since mafia roleblocker is mostly used?
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logic340 said:
What does scum gain by not night killing? In world where Darth really is town Role blocker? If we mislynch Darth they figured there is no protection for Kit (they didn't know about Jailer). Then they kill Kit N3.

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Scum prob forgot to send actions or become less motivated after Soren's death. If Darth was the killer and Sollux jailed him, then gj. I want to see what Darth would say with the accusation. I doubt Darth really followed the game, imo. He prob ddn't send any actions if he were roleblocker. We will see what he says.

Also, Jailor protects so idk why you say about no protection.

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Is shad or Claire the type to make a town roleblocker to throw us off since mafia roleblocker is mostly used?
Possibly. But I am not gonna fry my brain over the Basic set-up. If that was the case, then it is well played by the hosts, not the scum lel.

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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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