| Didn't know you could remove their buffs. Would have brought Jack then. And yeah, Amakusa deals too little damage to matter. |
mira-pyon said: I've already got all three on separate accounts.. Yeah.Now to get Li Shuwen, Gawain and Cu and you'll be set for Extella. :D Wtf. That's a pretty great passive skill. Then why do people think he's crap? It's cause amakusa does little damage, but with the NB CE he does a lot more.  But then again, with a lunatic like me, I could do this. |
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Yup that seems about right. I wouldn't know becuz I never use him |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| I mean he's my frontline servant 99% of the time and he's in my support list Somehow he works for me, god bless his soul. |
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ShinsoPriest said: Didn't know you could remove their buffs. Would have brought Jack then. And yeah, Amakusa deals too little damage to matter. I forgot Jack can do that.Then again i have that skill too low. |
| amakusa is ruler so he take less damage. i though about bringing ibaraki or jack but woundt survive 37 hassan gangbang |
| bruh |
| Guys, you know Medea exists, right? She is a Caster so she'll take less damage, can heal her self and survive, can spam her debuff removal NP AND has the cost of a 3*. Medea is the true queen of this quest, she just needs to be used with a fraction of competence. Amakusa is still shit. ssjokg said: Then again people say that Orion is shit too. Those who say that after her upgrade are a bunch of idiots. |
astroprogsSep 30, 2016 3:36 PM
| Doesnt Medea remove buffs after damage is dealt? |
ssjokg said: Doesnt Medea remove buffs after damage is dealt? Yes, but this is irrelevant because her damage output is too low to kill him. The effect won't trigger. |
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astroprogs said: ssjokg said: Doesnt Medea remove buffs after damage is dealt? Yes, but this is irrelevant because her damage output is too low to kill him. The effect won't trigger. So....why would i miss a kill?(with the right buffs) |
Well, it's true :p ssjokg said: astroprogs said: Yes, but this is irrelevant because her damage output is too low to kill him. The effect won't trigger. So....why would i miss a kill?(with the right buffs) You wouldn't. You'll just use another Servant in the chain to do it, still have Medea's NP ready by the next turn (unlike Amakusa) and enjoy the freed cost of a 3* for more useful CEs/Servants. |
astroprogs said: such a missed kill.And it could be two missed kills. :)Well, it's true :p You wouldn't. You'll just use another Servant in the chain to do it, still have Medea's NP ready by the next turn (unlike Amakusa) and enjoy the freed cost of a 3* for more useful CEs/Servants. |
ssjokg said: astroprogs said: such a missed kill.And it could be two missed kills. :)Well, it's true :p You wouldn't. You'll just use another Servant in the chain to do it, still have Medea's NP ready by the next turn (unlike Amakusa) and enjoy the freed cost of a 3* for more useful CEs/Servants. Well, it's not like Amakusa would be able to do enough damage to kill either :p Personally, I find no value in using a 5* with the usability of a 3*, but with inflated cost TBH when the only thing required to make the 3* a much better alternative is to play a teeny tiny bit smarter. |
| Why waste slots on Amakusa or even Medea when you can just have Iri guts the team before a kill? Just finished the fight using an Iri, Waver, Tamamo team. Probably made the fight longer than it should have been, but using an NP every turn is pretty great. |
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| I'm aware of his status, but I was able to defeat ~20 Hassans with him before he went down and left Da Vinci by herself, so I mean. Gameplay be damned, I just want to play with my favorite servants |
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astroprogs said: Guys, you know Medea exists, right? She is a Caster so she'll take less damage, can heal her self and survive, can spam her debuff removal NP AND has the cost of a 3*. Medea is the true queen of this quest, she just needs to be used with a fraction of competence. There's that too. Guess I should have switched out Nero Bride or Mashu for Medea. Oh wait, she's only level 40 and has no Fou cards invested, and I dislike her. Welp. Sherou said: Why waste slots on Amakusa or even Medea when you can just have Iri guts the team before a kill? Huh? I used Guts on Waver using Saber suit before killing the last assassin but he still died. Figured he can cancel your buffs. And why waste a slot on shit Iri when the event CE comes with Guts? Just bring Medea Lily and go god mode. |
ShinsoPriestSep 30, 2016 4:46 PM
Sherou said: Why waste slots on Amakusa or even Medea when you can just have Iri guts the team before a kill? Just finished the fight using an Iri, Waver, Tamamo team. Probably made the fight longer than it should have been, but using an NP every turn is pretty great. The Caster class really is made up of Casters! |
The sun is a deadly laser |
ShinsoPriest said: astroprogs said: Guys, you know Medea exists, right? She is a Caster so she'll take less damage, can heal her self and survive, can spam her debuff removal NP AND has the cost of a 3*. Medea is the true queen of this quest, she just needs to be used with a fraction of competence. There's that too. Guess I should have switched out Nero Bride or Mashu for Medea. Oh wait, she's only level 40 and has no Fou cards invested, and I dislike her. Welp. Sherou said: Why waste slots on Amakusa or even Medea when you can just have Iri guts the team before a kill? Huh? I used Guts on Waver before killing the last assassin using Saber suit but he still died. Figured he can cancel your buffs. And why waste a slot on shit Iri when the event CE comes with Guts? Just bring Medea Lily and go god mode. That's really weird. My guts worked even on the last Hassan. Maybe the suit buff works differently. And the CE guts only works once. |
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Sherou said: Why waste slots on Amakusa or even Medea when you can just have Iri guts the team before a kill? Just finished the fight using an Iri, Waver, Tamamo team. Probably made the fight longer than it should have been, but using an NP every turn is pretty great. It's a pretty valid strategy, yeah. Personally, i'm a bit wary of depending on Guts. ShadowfrostZen said: I'm aware of his status, but I was able to defeat ~20 Hassans with him before he went down and left Da Vinci by herself, so I mean. Gameplay be damned, I just want to play with my favorite servants Well... yeah. The game is easy enough to win 99% of the fights with 1*s and a good strategy. I'm not knocking you for using Amakusa if you like him (god knows i'd use Rin!Ishtar even if she was a 1*), i'm just criticizing his usability purely from a gameplay perspective. |
Sherou said: That's really weird. My guts worked even on the last Hassan. Maybe the suit buff works differently. And the CE guts only works once. Obviously you would keep them alive until the last assassin(like I did) so guts can be used while having other servants kill the assassins with the doom buff. |
astroprogs said: I understand, I'm glad you're not a direct hater of him purely from gameplay. That makes me feel good.Well... yeah. The game is easy enough to win 99% of the fights with 1*s and a good strategy. I'm not knocking you for using Amakusa if you like him (god knows i'd use Rin!Ishtar even if she was a 1*), i'm just criticizing his usability purely from a gameplay perspective. |
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| I should probably wait to do act 3 once I max out Tamamo |
My Queens  |
| Here are the new Mashu lines: Also, Because someone just had to. ShadowfrostZen said: astroprogs said: I understand, I'm glad you're not a direct hater of him purely from gameplay. That makes me feel good.Well... yeah. The game is easy enough to win 99% of the fights with 1*s and a good strategy. I'm not knocking you for using Amakusa if you like him (god knows i'd use Rin!Ishtar even if she was a 1*), i'm just criticizing his usability purely from a gameplay perspective. Oh no, gameplay has nothing to do with whether i like a character or not. Amakusa is actually one of the bright spots for me from what i've heard about him in Apocrypha. |
astroprogsSep 30, 2016 5:28 PM
astroprogs said: ShadowfrostZen said: I understand, I'm glad you're not a direct hater of him purely from gameplay. That makes me feel good. Oh no, gameplay has nothing to do with whether i like a character or not. Amakusa is actually one of the bright spots for me from what i've heard about him in Apocrypha. Same here, I don't care for Jeanne Alter even if she is supposedly godly gameplay wise. |
ShinsoPriestSep 30, 2016 5:43 PM
astroprogs said: He's certainly better than Darnic, at the very least.Oh no, gameplay has nothing to do with whether i like a character or not. Amakusa is actually one of the bright spots for me from what i've heard about him in Apocrypha. |
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| When you Dt have any trained 3*, you Just dont have. I Just finish herc-chan trial with 2 tamamo lancer spamming itBalls buster (bc my euryale is lvl50), and I Dt have medea, nor medea lily, nor iri(i had to skip F/z event due to business trip) so i Just borrow the 1st debuff unit i got in friend list... And was amakusa |
| bruh |
Just finished the Assassins fight. Used this team: The team name is a refrence to this scene BTW: Iri and Lily kept the front standing for the offensive Servants to clear the waves. Liz and Iri in particular did a magnificent Job here. Also, Medea laughs at your Assassins.  "Ara, 100 Assassins? Fufu, that's cute. Bring three tims that and I may actually start getting serious. I may still not, though." I gotta do a quick rant here. These fights are generally trying to refrence lore, but i just can't help but notice how screwed up they rated F/SN's Servants. Medea would wipe the floor with the Hundred-Faced Hassan army in her sleep with her A-rank beams if the fight was anywhere near lore-accurate. Medea seriously needs an upgrade so she can use her beamus. I know that RB is her actual NP, but i'd rather have it relegate to a skil (no damage) and have Machia Hecatia Graea as an A-rank AoE NP instead. Also, freaking make her a 4* already. Going back on topic, it was a pretty good fight. It lasted long enough to still be fun and mowing down wave after wave was really satisfying. So far, i'm liking these challenges a lot. I'd even go as far as saying that this is my favorite event since the game launched. It even had the lottery system for the rewards. Striking all right notes here, DW. |
astroprogsOct 1, 2016 10:05 AM
| 1AP is a lore accurate Siegfried, and Enuma Elish deals less than 5k damage. This is damn easy. Nope, I'm done. |
ShinsoPriestOct 1, 2016 12:04 PM
| I wiped with Siegfried at 5k Hp because Waver died, and without his attack buff, none of my servants could do any damage. The Nero CE is useless in this fight |
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ShinsoPriest said: 1AP is a lore accurate Siegfried, and Enuma Elish deals less than 5k damage. This is damn easy. Nope, I'm done. UBW, Waver, Okita NP, Kinchan NP and Buster Chains from the top of muh head. |
mira-pyonOct 1, 2016 1:01 PM
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| Guys. 1. Use Emiya or any other strong Servant with an NP that ignores defense with the Nero Bride CE. 2. Use another one for support. 3. Equip your best Archer with Azaka's CE if you have it. 4. Buster Chains. 5. ??? 6. Profit. |
| Can be done with Shiki and/or Jack too if you can keep them alive. I used Iri, Shiki, Support Waver, Da vinci and Saber Shiki (since i kinda lack the real hard hitters who can ignore defense) |
| this event is focusing on particular mechanisms. so far we go ???, ignore evade, debuff, ignore defense wo what is coming next for the special mechanism for the 3 last days? |
| bruh |
| Defense piercing? Pfft. Poison is what Siegfried deserves. Being humiliated as his prized defense is rendered irrelevant is a fitting end for someone like him. |
ShinsoPriest said: LOL1AP is a lore accurate Siegfried, and Enuma Elish deals less than 5k damage. This is damn easy. Nope, I'm done. |
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| Okita and Jack with Waver can easily deal with him. |
| Well, let's try this team. Hi Siegy. Bye Siegy. I rate that fight a 5/10. I usually enjoy this kind of fights, the shielded enemy fights, in games like SMT, but those actually involve strategy, not having the right cards and ONLY having the right cards. |
| Went in with double Wavers and Gil. Took care of wave 1 and 2 and have NPs ready. Tagged in Kintoki and got him NP ready. Waver stuns, def down and curses with his NP followed by a 30k GOLDEN SPARK. Next turn, Buster Brave with Kintoki = instant win. Sorry Gil and EMIYA, maybe next time. Herc battle - 10/10 Shisou and dog - 8/10 Team Hassan - 7/10 Sumanai - 5/10 |
| If i were to rank all the fights so far: Herc - 10/10 (kinda felt like i'm actually fighting the character) Lancas - 8/10 (too short. little strategy. deserves a point for shishou and her pet) Cannon-fodder - 10/10 (because Kajiura's music instantly makes everything grander and more epic.) Siegy - 5/10 (too short. zero strategy.) |
astroprogsOct 1, 2016 5:09 PM
| Medb was pretty easy. Had to use a command seal cause her damage buffs let her kill a few servants, but a pretty simple battle otherwise. |
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| Jack CE, Jack CE, Carmila CE,Waver , Kintoki Rider CE, Mashu Swamped Carmilla fro Kontoki when Casters got in. I only lost Friend Jack and I think Kintoki. |
| Beat it on first try. This 1AP was nothing special. I'm looking forward to tomorrow which is Gilgamesh. |
| Beat her with a team of Jack, Scathach(assassin), Waver, Iskandar, J.Alter, and Mashu. If Gil's is tomorrow, I have a bad feeling if its lore accurate.... |
My Queens |
| Lore accurate can mean two things. 1.Gil will rape us. 2.He wont take us seriously and be rekt. Which one will it be? |
| Probably the former, DW is luring us into a false sense of security. |
My Queens |
| 3. Bring Ruler maid Artoria for auto win. Oh wait she's not in yet. |
| She has to be an alter as well^, its super effective. |
My Queens |
| Faker advantage or we riot. Well, by we i mean me mostly. |
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