| vote: Dono |
| Nothing i could do there to save him sadly :( |
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Vote Count 3.1: aa-dono (1): Crossbell Shuuka (1): Bee-Boy Players not voting: (Togs, Jackrito, SoulEaterQUEEN, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: I wasn't defending myself in this post. Just sad that I got it wrong multiple times. I thought Lucian won't flip mafia and that this phase we could lynch Shinichi but he turned out to be town.aa-dono said: Don't really like the idea that you guys are willing to lynch anyone to narrow down suspects, although if Shuuka is mafia, I can't say anything bout it. I don't think she's mafia, but everyone I thought was mafia ended up as town (except followind). Yep, wasn't planning on voting Lucian. Was hoping to decide on lynching followind or double-lynch when he come back and reply, but it was late and no one said a word so I went to bed. I'm reading a lot of defense for your actions in this post. How about you do a bit more pro-active planning and reveal to us your thoughts on the best course of action in your own perspective instead. Lastly, what other options do you see fit on how to narrow down the suspects? Why wouldn't double lynching vanillas (unconfirmed towns) not be the best course of action here? Please indulge me. The ones left are Shuuka, you, Togs, and Cross, the latter two being town for me for quite some time, and I don't have much umm ding that you could be mafia. Not much plan except just try to check each post by Shuuka, then you, then Togs and Crossbell, but I'll do that after morning tasks. Why I don't like the idea: If Shuuka is Town, the next day, it'll be between Togs, Cross and you + another 2 PR. From Cross's reaction on phases before, seems like he's ready to give up to mafia winning and everyone's town reading everyone so I guess it's a massacre. :/ More like I don't like myself for being wrong. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: While waiting for replies and everyone freshen up from their mornings, Vote: followind because I have soft spot for Lucian and want to wait till he gets back. Oh! Unvote: followind Vote: LucianRoy because I have soft spot for Lucian. Edit: changed sweet to soft because I realize the right phrase is "soft spot" This reaction of uncertainty seems forced, and unneeded here. Where do you read uncertain? I placed vote on followind because I thought he was scum, but everyone else thinks so too so I moved to Lucian so that he reply to me. Guess I need more practice with pressure. |
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| aa-dono: Who do you want to lynch? |
| I want a double lynch, but if we only had to do one I would have to go with Dono, for the reasons Queen said eariler and because I would hate to lose a game because I stopped someone been lynched. I still perfer the double though, since that is the safest option. we have enough room for error to afford a double lynch as well so should take adv. Vote Dono |
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| I too want to vote aa-dono but seems like Jack beat me to it. So I might as well lay my vote on Shuuka. Though if I am required to change my vote to maintain a tie for whatever reason I will be sure to watch that. Double lynch is happening today. |
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| vote: Shuuka |
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aa-dono said: Where do you read uncertain? I placed vote on followind because I thought he was scum, but everyone else thinks so too so I moved to Lucian so that he reply to me. Guess I need more practice with pressure. Well the vote switch being written out in that post shows uncertainty but who even writes all that out anyway in 1 post? A natural inclination towards uncertainty involves thoughts from separate posts by showing a more elaborate thought process. |
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| vote: Shuuka Let's string em up boys |
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| Vote: dono |
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| OK so to curb my boredom I'm just going to analyze some interactions. (This is moot if either of Shuuka or dono flip scum, but this niggling gut feeling in the back of my head that both are town is what this is for) followind Interaction Analysis | denotes responding to a quote or a question, or an attack. - denotes a passive mention. Multiple occurrences in the same post are redundant. If a post contains both | and - for the same player, only | is mentioned. Some | may be demoted to - and vice versa depending on importance. Shinc: |||- Jackr: ||||||||- Beeby: ||- Cross: ||- Togs*: |||- QUEEN: ||||||||||||||- dono*: ||-- Shuka: - followind said: This feels genuine coming from followind, so yeah, clear SoulEaterQUEEN.Jack and Soul events are new.. But I do think that one of them or both of them might be town since Soul has been pretty much scum hunting but I've never seen her scum plays before followind said: You'll notice that he has all of the townie players at the top, and is likely to put his scumbuddies in the bottom of his reads list. Basically a certainty that he has Lucian as "can't get a grasp on" and one of his scumbuddies as "neutral".Sightless is doing his usual thing I think, but he might be town since he is more active IMO Jack is really coolheaded so I don't think he'll show it right now if he is scum Crossbell analysis seems pretty okay to me.. BeeBoy is tunnelling a bit towards Jack I think Togs is a pretty analytical player I think since I did follow Tsun maf game although I died N1, he seems to contribute decently Aa seems pretty neutral to me I can't get a grasp on Lucian though Shuuka,Bioshade and Soren are pretty neutral at this point for me followind said: I don't think followind actually voted for aa dono here?@Arrisu Why are you voting for aa? I'll follow your lead if I deem nee's reason is logical enough.. (Plus I don't think Arrisu actually answered this question, and followind never followed up on it) Then followind stop posting for a while and then pops up with these: followind said: This was a response to QUEEN, which is pretty overdefensive and once again makes me think that they are probably not buddies.Hmm.. This actually is because I was out whole day and just got on MAL just now.. followind said: This is in response to dono. Unsure what it means for dono's alignment, since "Why do you find me scummy" can be a response to both alignments.Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... followind said: Yeah I think this kind of seals dono as scum here? followind had the chance to vote dono, but he instead voted for Soren, who ended up flipping town.Anyway for now... Vote:Soren I feel aa is more genuine even though she's scum reading me a lot... I don't think I'll be able to attend the phase change since it's 3 a.m here.. anyway if anyone wants to ask me question ask it now.. I'm going to sleep in a moment tldr: Yeah I think this just solidifies dono as scum here. followind never interacted with Shuuka, but she never really posted anything of substance anyways. If there's another Day then I guess I'll take a look at Lucian interactions but the most darning points of evidence against aa-dono was how followind voted Soren instead of her on Twilight 1. |
| I'm still wary of alice sorry :D But In my opinion from what you've shown cross i believe its either shuuka or alice mainly because I can see alice leading followind plus ik alice is open to bussing her partners. With her huge town read in this game she could easily get us to lynch every vanila townie thought i'm always cautious. Vote Shuuka Not sure if this messes with the tie or not if it does ill unvote. |
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Crossbell said: If there's another Day then I guess I'll take a look at Lucian interactions but the most darning points of evidence against aa-dono was how followind voted Soren instead of her on Twilight 1. Could be right here, not sure what points followind brought up when he voted soren but if they aren't good enough it def mean's dono is scum. |
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| There's a very good chance that dono is the final scum, but if Shuuka/dono aren't, then we have to re-evaluate and work our butts off in the Night phase. I think that dono/Shuuka ends the game, though. |
Shinichi-Kun said: I'm still wary of alice sorry :D But In my opinion from what you've shown cross i believe its either shuuka or alice mainly because I can see alice leading followind plus ik alice is open to bussing her partners. With her huge town read in this game she could easily get us to lynch every vanila townie thought i'm always cautious. Vote Shuuka Not sure if this messes with the tie or not if it does ill unvote. Sorry to disappoint but I am not that sadistic and daring as scum. I helped lead the lynch on both Lucian and Followind when I could have easily avoided via the Jack/Followind lynch. Though your reads have been off quite some time now so I am not really worried about it. I'm positive aa-dono is scum here, and my 2nd guess is Shuuka, if I am wrong on either options then feel free to send me in the ringer with whomever else has a strong candidacy as being scum. |
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| @Crossbell An interaction, or lack of interaction I should say when it came to Lucian was how he watched the lynch happen in Twilight 1. Soren was basically begging for his life when he asked Lucian to vote aa-dono but he refused to take part of anything. This is not a strong case since he could have easily brushed it off as a way of not wanting to mess up the lynch by avoiding it, but I know LucianRoy as town would have tried harder to save Soren since he loves playing "accomplice town buddies" with him. So in hindsight there was hesitation on Lucian hammering a vote down on aa-dono when he had the opportunity to try on it. This is based off memory, and I would need to relook at the voting pattern again to confirm this. |
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| I will have to admit though, if aa-dono is our final scum, I think she played a good game at least being consistent with her town meta this time. I always found her game to be strange at times since I could never really understand the motivation behind asking so many questions, but the point Soren brought up was just her personality reflecting through the game I suppose. |
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| Yeah, all of this is just more evidence against dono. There's a good chance we're just talking ourselves in circles while we lynch the final scum, but it never hurts to have this discussion, as I have lost/had very close games due to speedlynching to find the last scum. |
Vote Count 3.2: aa-dono (3): Crossbell, Jackrito, Shuuka Shuuka (4): Bee-Boy, SoulEaterQUEEN, Togs, Shinichi-kun Players not voting: (aa-dono) |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I'm still wary of alice sorry :D But In my opinion from what you've shown cross i believe its either shuuka or alice mainly because I can see alice leading followind plus ik alice is open to bussing her partners. With her huge town read in this game she could easily get us to lynch every vanila townie thought i'm always cautious. Vote Shuuka Not sure if this messes with the tie or not if it does ill unvote. I really don't think you realise that they was no point in bussing teammates in this game, for scum all they had to do was get me lynched and won. Alice buses her team true, but only when she needs to and they was a decent chance I was getting lynched, until she defended me and she also pushed for the double lynch on Lucian and Follow why not just take me and Follow there then vote me last min and win. You are so cautious at times you don't look at the facts presented to you and see they is little logic in the action you describe. Also you do nothing but doubt good players and stop them from trying to do thier work it is highly annoying you nearly got me killed by doing it and it will get you lynched or vig shot in future games if you carry this trait on. Exp players are a threat yes but you should not use this as cause to blame them every game it is just biased play |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: I'm still wary of alice sorry :D But In my opinion from what you've shown cross i believe its either shuuka or alice mainly because I can see alice leading followind plus ik alice is open to bussing her partners. With her huge town read in this game she could easily get us to lynch every vanila townie thought i'm always cautious. Vote Shuuka Not sure if this messes with the tie or not if it does ill unvote. I really don't think you realise that they was no point in bussing teammates in this game, for scum all they had to do was get me lynched and won. Alice buses her team true, but only when she needs to and they was a decent chance I was getting lynched, until she defended me and she also pushed for the double lynch on Lucian and Follow why not just take me and Follow there then vote me last min and win. You are so cautious at times you don't look at the facts presented to you and see they is little logic in the action you describe. Also you do nothing but doubt good players and stop them from trying to do thier work it is highly annoying you nearly got me killed by doing it and it will get you lynched or vig shot in future games if you carry this trait on. Exp players are a threat yes but you should not use this as cause to blame them every game it is just biased play Not a cause or a blame towards a experience players lol its just my experience makes me wary that's all, also i'm cautious of alot of players not just the experienced ones |
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Crossbell said: Yeah, all of this is just more evidence against dono. There's a good chance we're just talking ourselves in circles while we lynch the final scum, but it never hurts to have this discussion, as I have lost/had very close games due to speedlynching to find the last scum. I know those feels cross :P |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: I really don't think you realise that they was no point in bussing teammates in this game, for scum all they had to do was get me lynched and won. Alice buses her team true, but only when she needs to and they was a decent chance I was getting lynched, until she defended me and she also pushed for the double lynch on Lucian and Follow why not just take me and Follow there then vote me last min and win. You are so cautious at times you don't look at the facts presented to you and see they is little logic in the action you describe. Also you do nothing but doubt good players and stop them from trying to do thier work it is highly annoying you nearly got me killed by doing it and it will get you lynched or vig shot in future games if you carry this trait on. Exp players are a threat yes but you should not use this as cause to blame them every game it is just biased play Not a cause or a blame towards a experience players lol its just my experience makes me wary that's all, also i'm cautious of alot of players not just the experienced ones Your actions say a lot differently you never suspected Followind in that Claim war and you suspected Ari early on in the game for little reason when she was clearly playing her town meta imo and you are doing the same now with Alice when the facts make it unlogical . You are biased towards the exp players even if you can't admit it. You have looked a lot more at certain people and considered them bad then others for no real reason apart from exp. Really not sure why I'm making a big deal of this now tbh |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not a cause or a blame towards a experience players lol its just my experience makes me wary that's all, also i'm cautious of alot of players not just the experienced ones Your actions say a lot differently you never suspected Followind in that Claim war and you suspected Ari early on in the game for little reason when she was clearly playing her town meta imo and you are doing the same now with Alice when the facts make it unlogical . You are biased towards the exp players even if you can't admit it. You have looked a lot more at certain people and considered them bad then others for no real reason apart from exp. Really not sure why I'm making a big deal of this now tbh I'm not sure why either *hugs But idk what you guys saw because I still have a hard time distinguishing town and scum ari well atleast i did before this game. Fact's make it unlogical not impossible btw :P anyways either way once shuuka and dono get lynched if they flip town then we will have to put up more vanilla townies. |
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| I wouldn't fault Shinichi, I think he has a point. In a mafia game I think it's natural to be distrustful of the experienced players over the newbies because generally, experienced players have the capability of being creative and intentional when faking town tells (by bussing, or faking genuine reactions, or analyzing the gamestate in a way that advances their agenda). In this game, I think most of the experienced players, if willing to put enough dedication in the game, can fool the town by seeding false townie tells. This is why when I re-evaluate the gamestate I always place more scrutiny on the experienced players, because I know that they are more than capable of fooling me. |
| Someone should unvote Shuuka, btw, so we have tied votes. |
| Unvote:shuuka |
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Vote Count 3.3: aa-dono (3): Crossbell, Jackrito, Shuuka Shuuka (3): Bee-Boy, SoulEaterQUEEN, Togs Players not voting: (aa-dono, Shinichi-kun) |
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Vote Count T3.0: Shuuka (0): aa-dono (0): No lynch (0): Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Crossbell, Togs, Jackrito SoulEaterQUEEN, aa-dono, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) Mod Notes: You can only vote for the options you can see above during this phase. >> Time until the phase change << |
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| vote: double lynch |
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| vote double lunch |
Crossbell said: vote double lunch Only one lunch for me please. vote: double lynch |
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| Vote double Lynch |
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Vote Count T3.1: Shuuka (0): aa-dono (0): No lynch (0): Double lynch (4): SoulEaterQUEEN, Crossbell, Togs, Jackrito Players not voting: (aa-dono, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) Mod Notes: You can only vote for the options you can see above during this phase. >> Time until the phase change << |
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| Could we possibly end the Day early if all players are in agreement? |
Crossbell said: Could we possibly end the Day early if all players are in agreement? No. That's not possible. |
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| True. Why would I want to kill myself? Gomen late vote: Shuuka |
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Crossbell said: Could we possibly end the Day early if all players are in agreement? This is why I like hammer voting ;-; vote: double lynch |
Vote Count T3.2: Shuuka (1): aa-dono aa-dono (0): No lynch (0): Double lynch (5): SoulEaterQUEEN, Crossbell, Togs, Jackrito, Bee-Boy Players not voting: (Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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| Vote: aa-dono |
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Vote Count T3.3: Shuuka (1): aa-dono aa-dono (1): Shuuka No lynch (0): Double lynch (5): SoulEaterQUEEN, Crossbell, Togs, Jackrito, Bee-Boy Players not voting: (Shinichi-kun) |
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| Have we won this game yet .-. |
| My worst nightmare: Both aa-dono and Shuuka flip town. |
Crossbell said: My worst nightmare: Both aa-dono and Shuuka flip town. Honestly, if that happens I am going to WTF since I am confident with my town reads on you/Togs. |
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Game END Shuuka has been lynched. She was the miller: aa-dono has been lynched. She was...  Thanks for playing! |
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| Yesssssssss |
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