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Jun 13, 2016 9:06 AM
#951
Bee-Boy said: {Ari} {SoulEaterQUEEN} {Togs, Crossbell} {LucianRoy} {Soren, SightlessReality, followind} {Jackrito} {Shuuka, aa-dono} {Shinichi-kun} Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game. Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie. SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop. Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game. LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town. Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty... Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into. followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly. Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me. Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot. dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings. Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like. Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this? |
Jun 13, 2016 9:08 AM
#952
SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Anyway, I will leave it at that for now. I'm sorry @aa-dono if you have questions you want me to answer it will have to be when I wake up. But before I go, can I request another new reads list of sorts based on your new questions/what had happened at the end of the day phase you missed out on? I'm tempted to ask you this: Crossbell said: Who do you want to lynch, and why? - you have a triple barreled gun, and you need to shoot a scum or lose. Who do you shoot? I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^ I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more... Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way? From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info? Hmm.. This actually is because I was out whole day and just got on MAL just now.. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:11 AM
#953
I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:16 AM
#954
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Are you hesitant on who to vote for?I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:17 AM
#955
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Bee-Boy said: {Ari} {SoulEaterQUEEN} {Togs, Crossbell} {LucianRoy} {Soren, SightlessReality, followind} {Jackrito} {Shuuka, aa-dono} {Shinichi-kun} Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game. Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie. SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop. Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game. LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town. Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty... Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into. followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly. Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me. Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot. dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings. Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like. Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this? Not sure why i'm ur top scum read out of everyone else in this entire game XD. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:18 AM
#956
Soren said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Are you hesitant on who to vote for?I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with. I am that's for sure cause just like in day 1 i'm hesitant in locking my vote on someone espically when i get slight town vibes from both you and dono. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:20 AM
#957
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Bee-Boy said: {Ari} {SoulEaterQUEEN} {Togs, Crossbell} {LucianRoy} {Soren, SightlessReality, followind} {Jackrito} {Shuuka, aa-dono} {Shinichi-kun} Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game. Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie. SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop. Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game. LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town. Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty... Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into. followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly. Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me. Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot. dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings. Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like. Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this? Because forging faulty scum reads at 3 am can be a challenge. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:29 AM
#958
Jun 13, 2016 9:42 AM
#959
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: followind said: [quote=SoulEaterQUEEN message=46442953] Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Shinichi-Kun said: Which scum are on the wagon, do you think?Arrisu said: Bee-Boy said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. I'm still not sure what jack has said that make's him deserving of all those votes in the first place, cause even i feel as though the train both built up too fast and is kinda an easy lynch. Cause scum can easily be hiding in that wagon as we speak. Never implied their was scum on the train just that it was a possibility. Everyone on that train is pretty neutral to me except tog who give's off a slight town vibe for me. There's definitely enough substance to get better reads. What about Shuuka's vote that came out of nowhere? My interaction with Jack? Jack himself? This is her first game Not gonna judge who off of a few votes and some interactions with jack lol. I don't see him as scum like everyone else i just get a neutral read from him. you defended him earlier this phase, why would you defend a neutral read? Cause i always do? Not sure how I'm suppose to answer that question lol what's the benefit on doing this if you don't know his alignment or have a "feeling" or "suspicion" of his alignment? Just how i play the game is there a problem with that lmao? I normally do it day 1 cause i feel like some people end up being voted off of a reason's that are really hard to defend themselves from that's why. Not sure why your questioning this now when i've done it in every game we played together. Normally I don't care, but apparently this is one of your scum tells pointed out by Jack/Ari so I am trying to dive into your perspective on how it benefits your play as both town/scum. What happens if you are defending scum? What happens if the reason why they can't defend themselves is because of scum play? Why do you assume that people being lynched are going to be town? Why do you have null tells on a wagon that has been going for awhile? I need some more thoughts in this area because to me this is making me see you as being scummy. Defending people who you don't have an indicative of their alignment as town does not make sense, you would only defend someone when scum because you want to gain a townie's trust, or by setting them up to look scummy through association. Also the fact you seem so sure that D1 is going to result in a town lynch also tips me off that you have an idea who is town, and only scum would feel this confidence. It feels as though you are setting town up to be discouraged on lynching and ready to town shame by the end of it. Lastly null tells gives me another tip of being scummy because scum are afraid to commit to reads until they have a plan on who to get on their side and who to frame. Shinichi-kun said: Not sure what they even pointed out that actually make's me trully seem scummy also if and when I do die it's gonna be funny when both their read's are thrown back at them and they get mindblown unless they are both scum cause they just be happy I died. This guilt tripping is something that makes you look even scummier by the way. This is just a way to make you place doubt in people in lynching you as scum. If you are town here, again, I fail to see the point of how funny it would be to waste a lynch on you to prove a point. Shinichi-kun said: Only defend people on day 1 most of the time and if someone is scum who I'm defending oh well it happens just like how a day 1 lynch can lead to a townies death. How are you so sure that it will lead to a townies death? If someone is being under attack, why don't you spend time analyzing the reason why they are being attacked instead of jumping to their rescue? Shinichi-kun said: At the same time i don't see any harm in what I'm doing because it's up to other's to follow me. Nope I defend people day 1 regardless of alignment and I understand your logic it's just kinda part of my good moral I defend people that's what I do lmao. There's a slight panic tone here when you reiterate the point that you made twice. You are justifying your actions and trying to reaffirm that your meta is the same regardless of what alignment you are is the read i am getting here. Shinichi-kun said: I would have to reread everything to give you an accurate answer to the reads on that train which i will be doing tomorrow morning or soonish maybe if i'm still awake. That's fine, I will hold you to it. Shinichi-kun said: Can you quote me where i said its gunranteed town will be lynched day 1 cause even I've been in games where mafia have been lynched on day 1. Scratch out the guarantee word from this, but you have an example within your own message that just mentions townies being lynched D1. Shinichi-kun said: I don't plan on shaming anyone if a townie get's lynched because of their own reasoning that's on them, though not sure how I'm setting up anyone to be discouraged by defending people where I see fit. You just said you'd defend anyone regardless of alignment, so that in itself is interrupting other people's activities to truly scum hunt and reveal the alignment of themselves/others. Your defending just serves as a distraction because it confuses town what your intentions are really are. That is the way I perceive it. Shinichi-kun said: Not true atleast for me cause when I finally do a read list I gotta reread everything stuff and post's so stick in my head so for me to accurately answer a read question i gotta go back and find every post at that moment so for me its easier to just say someone is a neutral read till i can atleast gather my thoughts. Why mention your neutral reads at all then? Shinichi-kun said: Also I think I've hinted at my role a few times in all my post. Really? because I can't remember except the constant screaming of "townie" as a guilt tripping method which again is scummy :/ I was wondering for a while where he role hinted.. I thought I missed it so I've waited for people to point it out If there aren't anyone that knows about it.. I'll probably ask about it myself but it doesn't seems to be the case here I don't think it is a good idea to search for the hints or even admit they was some now scum will look for them and kill if he is telling the truth. I find it a bit scummy how you want such info so early and it handed to you. I agree with jack here So do you find followind scummy too? Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... |
Jun 13, 2016 9:47 AM
#960
Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: followind said: [quote=SoulEaterQUEEN message=46442953] Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Shinichi-Kun said: Which scum are on the wagon, do you think?Arrisu said: Bee-Boy said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. I'm still not sure what jack has said that make's him deserving of all those votes in the first place, cause even i feel as though the train both built up too fast and is kinda an easy lynch. Cause scum can easily be hiding in that wagon as we speak. Never implied their was scum on the train just that it was a possibility. Everyone on that train is pretty neutral to me except tog who give's off a slight town vibe for me. There's definitely enough substance to get better reads. What about Shuuka's vote that came out of nowhere? My interaction with Jack? Jack himself? This is her first game Not gonna judge who off of a few votes and some interactions with jack lol. I don't see him as scum like everyone else i just get a neutral read from him. you defended him earlier this phase, why would you defend a neutral read? Cause i always do? Not sure how I'm suppose to answer that question lol what's the benefit on doing this if you don't know his alignment or have a "feeling" or "suspicion" of his alignment? Just how i play the game is there a problem with that lmao? I normally do it day 1 cause i feel like some people end up being voted off of a reason's that are really hard to defend themselves from that's why. Not sure why your questioning this now when i've done it in every game we played together. Normally I don't care, but apparently this is one of your scum tells pointed out by Jack/Ari so I am trying to dive into your perspective on how it benefits your play as both town/scum. What happens if you are defending scum? What happens if the reason why they can't defend themselves is because of scum play? Why do you assume that people being lynched are going to be town? Why do you have null tells on a wagon that has been going for awhile? I need some more thoughts in this area because to me this is making me see you as being scummy. Defending people who you don't have an indicative of their alignment as town does not make sense, you would only defend someone when scum because you want to gain a townie's trust, or by setting them up to look scummy through association. Also the fact you seem so sure that D1 is going to result in a town lynch also tips me off that you have an idea who is town, and only scum would feel this confidence. It feels as though you are setting town up to be discouraged on lynching and ready to town shame by the end of it. Lastly null tells gives me another tip of being scummy because scum are afraid to commit to reads until they have a plan on who to get on their side and who to frame. Shinichi-kun said: Not sure what they even pointed out that actually make's me trully seem scummy also if and when I do die it's gonna be funny when both their read's are thrown back at them and they get mindblown unless they are both scum cause they just be happy I died. This guilt tripping is something that makes you look even scummier by the way. This is just a way to make you place doubt in people in lynching you as scum. If you are town here, again, I fail to see the point of how funny it would be to waste a lynch on you to prove a point. Shinichi-kun said: Only defend people on day 1 most of the time and if someone is scum who I'm defending oh well it happens just like how a day 1 lynch can lead to a townies death. How are you so sure that it will lead to a townies death? If someone is being under attack, why don't you spend time analyzing the reason why they are being attacked instead of jumping to their rescue? Shinichi-kun said: At the same time i don't see any harm in what I'm doing because it's up to other's to follow me. Nope I defend people day 1 regardless of alignment and I understand your logic it's just kinda part of my good moral I defend people that's what I do lmao. There's a slight panic tone here when you reiterate the point that you made twice. You are justifying your actions and trying to reaffirm that your meta is the same regardless of what alignment you are is the read i am getting here. Shinichi-kun said: I would have to reread everything to give you an accurate answer to the reads on that train which i will be doing tomorrow morning or soonish maybe if i'm still awake. That's fine, I will hold you to it. Shinichi-kun said: Can you quote me where i said its gunranteed town will be lynched day 1 cause even I've been in games where mafia have been lynched on day 1. Scratch out the guarantee word from this, but you have an example within your own message that just mentions townies being lynched D1. Shinichi-kun said: I don't plan on shaming anyone if a townie get's lynched because of their own reasoning that's on them, though not sure how I'm setting up anyone to be discouraged by defending people where I see fit. You just said you'd defend anyone regardless of alignment, so that in itself is interrupting other people's activities to truly scum hunt and reveal the alignment of themselves/others. Your defending just serves as a distraction because it confuses town what your intentions are really are. That is the way I perceive it. Shinichi-kun said: Not true atleast for me cause when I finally do a read list I gotta reread everything stuff and post's so stick in my head so for me to accurately answer a read question i gotta go back and find every post at that moment so for me its easier to just say someone is a neutral read till i can atleast gather my thoughts. Why mention your neutral reads at all then? Shinichi-kun said: Also I think I've hinted at my role a few times in all my post. Really? because I can't remember except the constant screaming of "townie" as a guilt tripping method which again is scummy :/ I was wondering for a while where he role hinted.. I thought I missed it so I've waited for people to point it out If there aren't anyone that knows about it.. I'll probably ask about it myself but it doesn't seems to be the case here I don't think it is a good idea to search for the hints or even admit they was some now scum will look for them and kill if he is telling the truth. I find it a bit scummy how you want such info so early and it handed to you. I agree with jack here So do you find followind scummy too? Not really, I still get a quite a neutral read from him. why? Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose. Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check. Which post do you mean? The one Jack said that he's feels I'm a bit scummy? I thought that town knowing or finding another town role hinting will be good since it might help power roles... but Jack thinks otherwise so I've said I'll keep that in mind if I'm not mistaken |
Jun 13, 2016 9:49 AM
#961
Soren said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Are you hesitant on who to vote for?I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with. yup. I don't see dono behaving very different from the Corpse Party, as I brought up in my #934, and with you, I just feel like all your actions thus far have been good, but almost in a sense they seem really careful - so I can't really paint you scummy because of this either. So I need to take a time out to advance my thoughts on this. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:52 AM
#962
followind said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: followind said: [quote=SoulEaterQUEEN message=46442953] Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Shinichi-Kun said: Which scum are on the wagon, do you think?Arrisu said: Bee-Boy said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. I'm still not sure what jack has said that make's him deserving of all those votes in the first place, cause even i feel as though the train both built up too fast and is kinda an easy lynch. Cause scum can easily be hiding in that wagon as we speak. Never implied their was scum on the train just that it was a possibility. Everyone on that train is pretty neutral to me except tog who give's off a slight town vibe for me. There's definitely enough substance to get better reads. What about Shuuka's vote that came out of nowhere? My interaction with Jack? Jack himself? This is her first game Not gonna judge who off of a few votes and some interactions with jack lol. I don't see him as scum like everyone else i just get a neutral read from him. you defended him earlier this phase, why would you defend a neutral read? Cause i always do? Not sure how I'm suppose to answer that question lol what's the benefit on doing this if you don't know his alignment or have a "feeling" or "suspicion" of his alignment? Just how i play the game is there a problem with that lmao? I normally do it day 1 cause i feel like some people end up being voted off of a reason's that are really hard to defend themselves from that's why. Not sure why your questioning this now when i've done it in every game we played together. Normally I don't care, but apparently this is one of your scum tells pointed out by Jack/Ari so I am trying to dive into your perspective on how it benefits your play as both town/scum. What happens if you are defending scum? What happens if the reason why they can't defend themselves is because of scum play? Why do you assume that people being lynched are going to be town? Why do you have null tells on a wagon that has been going for awhile? I need some more thoughts in this area because to me this is making me see you as being scummy. Defending people who you don't have an indicative of their alignment as town does not make sense, you would only defend someone when scum because you want to gain a townie's trust, or by setting them up to look scummy through association. Also the fact you seem so sure that D1 is going to result in a town lynch also tips me off that you have an idea who is town, and only scum would feel this confidence. It feels as though you are setting town up to be discouraged on lynching and ready to town shame by the end of it. Lastly null tells gives me another tip of being scummy because scum are afraid to commit to reads until they have a plan on who to get on their side and who to frame. Shinichi-kun said: Not sure what they even pointed out that actually make's me trully seem scummy also if and when I do die it's gonna be funny when both their read's are thrown back at them and they get mindblown unless they are both scum cause they just be happy I died. This guilt tripping is something that makes you look even scummier by the way. This is just a way to make you place doubt in people in lynching you as scum. If you are town here, again, I fail to see the point of how funny it would be to waste a lynch on you to prove a point. Shinichi-kun said: Only defend people on day 1 most of the time and if someone is scum who I'm defending oh well it happens just like how a day 1 lynch can lead to a townies death. How are you so sure that it will lead to a townies death? If someone is being under attack, why don't you spend time analyzing the reason why they are being attacked instead of jumping to their rescue? Shinichi-kun said: At the same time i don't see any harm in what I'm doing because it's up to other's to follow me. Nope I defend people day 1 regardless of alignment and I understand your logic it's just kinda part of my good moral I defend people that's what I do lmao. There's a slight panic tone here when you reiterate the point that you made twice. You are justifying your actions and trying to reaffirm that your meta is the same regardless of what alignment you are is the read i am getting here. Shinichi-kun said: I would have to reread everything to give you an accurate answer to the reads on that train which i will be doing tomorrow morning or soonish maybe if i'm still awake. That's fine, I will hold you to it. Shinichi-kun said: Can you quote me where i said its gunranteed town will be lynched day 1 cause even I've been in games where mafia have been lynched on day 1. Scratch out the guarantee word from this, but you have an example within your own message that just mentions townies being lynched D1. Shinichi-kun said: I don't plan on shaming anyone if a townie get's lynched because of their own reasoning that's on them, though not sure how I'm setting up anyone to be discouraged by defending people where I see fit. You just said you'd defend anyone regardless of alignment, so that in itself is interrupting other people's activities to truly scum hunt and reveal the alignment of themselves/others. Your defending just serves as a distraction because it confuses town what your intentions are really are. That is the way I perceive it. Shinichi-kun said: Not true atleast for me cause when I finally do a read list I gotta reread everything stuff and post's so stick in my head so for me to accurately answer a read question i gotta go back and find every post at that moment so for me its easier to just say someone is a neutral read till i can atleast gather my thoughts. Why mention your neutral reads at all then? Shinichi-kun said: Also I think I've hinted at my role a few times in all my post. Really? because I can't remember except the constant screaming of "townie" as a guilt tripping method which again is scummy :/ I was wondering for a while where he role hinted.. I thought I missed it so I've waited for people to point it out If there aren't anyone that knows about it.. I'll probably ask about it myself but it doesn't seems to be the case here I don't think it is a good idea to search for the hints or even admit they was some now scum will look for them and kill if he is telling the truth. I find it a bit scummy how you want such info so early and it handed to you. I agree with jack here So do you find followind scummy too? Not really, I still get a quite a neutral read from him. why? Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose. Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check. Which post do you mean? The one Jack said that he's feels I'm a bit scummy? I thought that town knowing or finding another town role hinting will be good since it might help power roles... but Jack thinks otherwise so I've said I'll keep that in mind if I'm not mistaken Ok ok just wanted to know ur mind set between wanting to know where the hints were. |
Jun 13, 2016 9:54 AM
#963
Also don't try to scum trap me with being hesitant on voting, it's not going to work. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:02 AM
#964
Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again? There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum. Just so tempting >___> |
Jun 13, 2016 10:07 AM
#965
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again? There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum. Just so tempting >___> If you ask me.. It's pretty much a double edged sword.. Also it depends on the situation... If you think both of them are scum then it might be better to double lynch since we might get one or even two scums But if we aren't sure either one is scum than it might be worse to double lynch since we might even kill 2 townie... This will reduce the town numbers and get it closer to mafia mod win cons... |
Jun 13, 2016 10:08 AM
#966
vote: double lynch |
Jun 13, 2016 10:11 AM
#967
Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here! There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum! |
Jun 13, 2016 10:12 AM
#968
SoulEaterQUEEN do you plan on rereading I am curious as to whether or not you read anything interesting. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:12 AM
#969
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again? There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum. Just so tempting >___> But what if neither are scum lol then what? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM
#970
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here! There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum! Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM
#971
Bee-Boy said: SoulEaterQUEEN do you plan on rereading I am curious as to whether or not you read anything interesting. In the process of it |
Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM
#972
Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here! There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum! Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too? Why are you assuming both are town >.< |
Jun 13, 2016 10:20 AM
#973
Crossbell said: Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum. What happened to this conviction? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:22 AM
#974
SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Anyway, I will leave it at that for now. I'm sorry @aa-dono if you have questions you want me to answer it will have to be when I wake up. But before I go, can I request another new reads list of sorts based on your new questions/what had happened at the end of the day phase you missed out on? I'm tempted to ask you this: Crossbell said: Who do you want to lynch, and why? - you have a triple barreled gun, and you need to shoot a scum or lose. Who do you shoot? I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^ I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more... Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way? From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info? I thought it would for the best if I didn't vote for anybody since it will break aa and Soren tie and we wouldn't enter this phase... Once again, I'm sorry for entering to this phase this late since I've had some events |
Jun 13, 2016 10:24 AM
#975
SoulEaterQUEEN said: I forgot that we can give our PRs additional Nights to find scum.Crossbell said: Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum. What happened to this conviction? Plus I am waffling on these lynches and think that both have a reasonable chance to flip town. :( |
Jun 13, 2016 10:27 AM
#976
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Crossbell said: Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum. What happened to this conviction? It's a good idea IMO but I was thinking for other possibilities such as Day 1 and 2 we lynch 1 people each and double lynch on day 3 since IMO we will have more info Correct me if I'm wrong... |
Jun 13, 2016 10:29 AM
#977
Bee-Boy said: Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here! There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum! Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too? Why are you assuming both are town >.< Because it's a possibilty i refuse to overlook lol |
Jun 13, 2016 10:31 AM
#978
aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Soren said: Jackrito said: 1. If we have confident scum reads we should do it. Crossbell said: Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum. It gives us decent odds to kill ourselfs as well this is a gamble that can backfire badly, and not something town would do in my view. If mafia can control these votes we are doomed this just appears to me a way to give scum a fast easy win. 2. We should do it anyways to enter twilight to gain an additional 24 hours to discuss. We can always go back to lynching only one of the tied players. I'm fine with it but if we start munching double townies I don't want to do this again until later game. Wouldn't double lynch be more riskier in later games? Especially with mafia wincon. Assuming they'd be able to make night kills, then the risk losing more townies by lynch at later phase will be even worse. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:32 AM
#979
Is there anything anyone wants to ask me? It's 12:30 a.m here and I still have to go to school at 7:30... I feel being left out as townie in this game since I've been preoccupied with things |
Jun 13, 2016 10:35 AM
#980
SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Soren said: Jackrito said: 1. If we have confident scum reads we should do it. Crossbell said: Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum. It gives us decent odds to kill ourselfs as well this is a gamble that can backfire badly, and not something town would do in my view. If mafia can control these votes we are doomed this just appears to me a way to give scum a fast easy win. 2. We should do it anyways to enter twilight to gain an additional 24 hours to discuss. We can always go back to lynching only one of the tied players. I'm fine with it but if we start munching double townies I don't want to do this again until later game. Wouldn't double lynch be more riskier in later games? Especially with mafia wincon. Assuming they'd be able to make night kills, then the risk losing more townies by lynch at later phase will be even worse. Is this for me @SoulEaterQUEEN ? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:36 AM
#981
@aa-dono I need a solid read list from you like ASAP. You ASKED A LOT of questions in D1, surely you gathered enough intel to produce some viable reads, because as town, why else would you ask that many questions? You also need to comment on what you think of Soren. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:36 AM
#982
I like the idea behind double lynching, through a miller, godfather and the fact that one of our cops is only a neapolitan using night to solve the game isn't as strong as what you would think. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:37 AM
#983
Anyway for now... Vote:Soren I feel aa is more genuine even though she's scum reading me a lot... I don't think I'll be able to attend the phase change since it's 3 a.m here.. anyway if anyone wants to ask me question ask it now.. I'm going to sleep in a moment |
Jun 13, 2016 10:38 AM
#984
followind said: Is there anything anyone wants to ask me? It's 12:30 a.m here and I still have to go to school at 7:30... I feel being left out as townie in this game since I've been preoccupied with things Don't be self centered, try to think between Soren/aa-dono on who do you prefer to vote. BOTH? NONE? Or one or the other. I want to actually see a thoughtful vote produced out of this. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:38 AM
#985
followind said: Anyway for now... Vote:Soren I feel aa is more genuine even though she's scum reading me a lot... I don't think I'll be able to attend the phase change since it's 3 a.m here.. anyway if anyone wants to ask me question ask it now.. I'm going to sleep in a moment ohhh I got ninja'd (forget my post below) |
Jun 13, 2016 10:44 AM
#986
where's @Togs @LucianRoy ? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:45 AM
#987
@SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell Is there anything you guys want to ask me? If not, I'll go to sleep ... |
Jun 13, 2016 10:45 AM
#988
followind said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell Is there anything you guys want to ask me? If not, I'll go to sleep ... @BeeBoy too I'm just mentioning everyone who's online right now |
Jun 13, 2016 10:46 AM
#989
followind said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell Is there anything you guys want to ask me? If not, I'll go to sleep ... why no double lynch? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:46 AM
#990
I just got here, catching up. I'm surprised Soren got nominated and even more surprised that he's getting votes ??? From what I saw D1 he's one of my biggest townreads. I can and will back this up with reasoning because he definitely shouldn't be the lynch toDay. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:49 AM
#991
SoulEaterQUEEN said: followind said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell Is there anything you guys want to ask me? If not, I'll go to sleep ... why no double lynch? I'm not really sure on either one of them... Both of them seems a bit more townish but I still feel them as a bit scum but since I feel dono more genuine I've voted soren But I don't think a no lynch would be a hood choice here |
Jun 13, 2016 10:50 AM
#992
Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:52 AM
#994
Is it bad I think Dono and Soren both have a decent chance of being town but I want to lynch both of them anyway? It just feels so wrong not using the double lynch power >_> |
Jun 13, 2016 10:53 AM
#995
Togs said: Ok read through AA. First she asks two questions and seems completely uninterested in the answers. Then she gets in a conversation with SoulEater about the mechanics of double lynching. So scumhunting doesn’t really seems to catch her interest but the setup does. Yeah I definitely would like some more pressure on her. vote: aa-dono how did your Jackrito vote just dissipitate when the new hot target came around? |
Jun 13, 2016 10:56 AM
#996
I voted aa-dono for pressure. I would've highly preferred both Jack and AA being in this Twilight. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:58 AM
#997
Togs said: I just got here, catching up. I'm surprised Soren got nominated and even more surprised that he's getting votes ??? From what I saw D1 he's one of my biggest townreads. I can and will back this up with reasoning because he definitely shouldn't be the lynch toDay. Please do because nothing he has done today I see as a solid town read, It is just filled with caution and asking people for thier views and giving little of his own views unti this twlight phase where he has had to give more because of pressure. So really intrested in this. |
Jun 13, 2016 10:59 AM
#998
To extrapolate this is the second time I've used the "doesn't care about scumhunting questions but does care about xxx questions" tell and I'm curious as to it's accuracy, since last time I only found a neutral jester with it. So I wanted more info out of AA while was I good with my scumread on Jack. (Still havent finished catching up atm btw) |
Jun 13, 2016 11:01 AM
#999
Togs said: I voted aa-dono for pressure. I would've highly preferred both Jack and AA being in this Twilight. Give me the reasons why then, because you and Bee-boy both have had me as big scum reads with no solid reasons in my view. |
Jun 13, 2016 11:04 AM
#1000
aa-dono said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Here again. The "zero scum-hunting". I'm not sure how scum-hunting is to everyone else now since I've been getting that a lot in most games. My questions are there for me to understand how someone works. If I see a point where I can continue, I would. Also, sometimes, I don't probe when someone doesn't reply because I take note of that. And in later phase I could go back to it. Now, for someone who wanted to wait for more people, you voted me quite quick the moment Ari mentioned me. Isn't this jumping on it because I haven't remove vote? This looks like town frustration to me. |
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