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Jul 20, 2014 2:48 PM

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It's also worth noting that there are several girl x girl pairings in "Stainless Night". One female character is in love with her senpai, who at the beginning of the show is in a (plainly physical) relationship with the heroine...


That's why I suggested this title in the first place.
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Yeah, I know there are, and I don't have anything against the anime or it being on the list. I didn't bring this up as a counter argument, It's just that some people may not like unexpected surprises along the way. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Jul 20, 2014 3:13 PM

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Not at all - I was just clarifying my point.
Jul 22, 2014 7:24 AM

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Banana no Nana is not listed as a Yuri/Shoujo ai on MAL. It's incomplete but still is finished (the middle is missing terribly) but it is a yuri manga no matter who says what. Don't believe me read it. XD
Jul 22, 2014 8:40 AM

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^That's confusing as hell. Incomplete and finished, yuri and not yuri. lol I'm not a manga person so can anyone confirm?
Jul 22, 2014 8:49 AM

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...which reminds me (the guess game), that Soul Eater NOT! is not on the relations list (yet)... thoughts on if you would consider it Yuri or not?
Jul 22, 2014 8:51 AM

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HikaruIzumi said:
^That's confusing as hell. Incomplete and finished, yuri and not yuri. lol I'm not a manga person so can anyone confirm?

Read from this page on up. It's the last chapter but it doesn't matter. The writer left the series to die at a critical moment so the Co.Writer jumped forward within the series and gave it an ending. If that last chapter doesn't say this manga is a yuri then my mind is blown. I'm guessing it just hasn't been labeled yuri or shoujo ai on MAL or Mangahere yet.
Jul 22, 2014 8:52 AM

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...which reminds me (the guess game), that Soul Eater NOT! is not on the relations list (yet)... thoughts on if you would consider it Yuri or not?

Oh it isn't? My bad within the game forum then. >. <
Jul 22, 2014 9:17 AM

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Crowlage said:
Oh it isn't? My bad within the game forum then. >. <


I guess (...aside consistency...) it's OK, since it was answered fast, ...also useful to bring up this question. I wouldn't necaraliy say it Yuri because of Jacqueline x Kim, though they definitely shipable, but it is more of one sided though..., but more for Tsugumi x Anya x Meme, I think especially the last episode. Opinion?
Jul 22, 2014 9:31 AM
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I honestly did not think there would be a literal banana involved.
Jul 22, 2014 9:40 AM

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That single page was enough to convince me. XD Adding it. Hopefully, no one turns out to have "adjustable functions" (sorry, I like that phrase way too much).

Also, I haven't seen Soul Eater NOT! yet but it sounds like club material so I'll add it if I hear positive reaction to it from one more person.

Thanks guys for bringing up these anime/manga. Keep up the good work.

EDIT: Added also Tokiwa Midori to character relations. I hope no one minds.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:40 AM

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HikaruIzumi said:


Also, I haven't seen Soul Eater NOT! yet but it sounds like club material so I'll add it if I hear positive reaction to it from one more person.

EDIT: Added also Tokiwa Midori to character relations. I hope no one minds.


I accept both. :)
Jul 22, 2014 12:26 PM
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But the fact that she was ever a he will sit wrong on the minds of some and I do think that should be respected. It's something I've not been able to answer since joining the club. This isn't a slight to any sort of transsexualism, rather the qualifications of what Yuri is.

This is what the relations list discussion always boils down to and it's all splitting hairs. It's desirable to think this is simple but the fact is, Yuri is a matter of sexuality and human relations and those are subjects of many angles.
Jul 22, 2014 12:36 PM

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The relation department sounds like hell on earth for this club. >. < The genre means so many different things to everyone that there's no clear indication on what is what. Shows like Madoka, I clearly see a friendship with no Yuri at all between Madoka and Homura but only with the help of fans (doujins/fanarts) I see that relationship.

If Kashimashi is not Yuri then Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru sure as heck isn't either. That's my defense for that show. XD

EDIT:I haven't watched Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru because of the cross dressing.
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"Kashimashi" was always a tough nut to crack for me as well - the main character basically is STILL a guy.

But I have an even bigger problem with "Maria Holic" - though I still haven't seen it. From what I know, in this show the main character IS a guy and he is just cross-dressing. So does the yuri element involve other characters beside the main hero and heroine?
Jul 22, 2014 12:42 PM

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Crowlage said:
Shows like Madoka, I clearly see a friendship with no Yuri at all between Madoka and Homura but only with the help of fans (doujins/fanarts) I see that relationship.


With "Madoka" the problem I had was that in the 12-episode series I didn't notice any shoujo-ai or yuri elements - but in the third movie it is clearly visible. It looked as though only because of the doujins and fanarts Urobuchi decided: "this might be a good idea"; and added this element to the story.
Jul 22, 2014 12:47 PM

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With "Madoka" the problem I had was that in the 12-episode series I didn't notice any shoujo-ai or yuri elements - but in the third movie it is clearly visible. It looked as though only because of the doujins and fanarts Urobuchi decided: "this might be a good idea"; and added this element to the story.

In the beginning of the manga, The Different Story, he added the Shoujo ai in for fanservice right at the beginning. But aside from that, saying "Love" about a friend could mean many things. It's how your mind and goggles interpret it. There's people I "Love" but not "In Love" with. Sorry for falling somewhat off top topic...
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Yuri is a matter of sexuality. If in Kashimashi it was a guy from the beginning I really don't see it as yuri. It's not a girl and girl it's a girl and a guy in girl's body. His mind, sexuality and everything stayed original. He pretty much became a transsexual but even with transsexuals, their sexuality is judged by what it would be if their body and mind were aligned. If his body and mind were aligned, he'd be straight.

I think it's very obvious that Homura is in love with Madoka since there's no damn way someone would go that far to make sure a friend is happy as her. Note: It was never about Homura being happy until 3rd film but then she outright admitted that she loved her. I haven't her a friend use the word love to a friend like Homura did because it wasn't when she was happy or pleased or to praise her or something, it felt like her own revelation about her feelings. As if she realised, after all that time, that she did it for Madoka because she loves her not because of some weird seriously obsessive friendship.

I agree with you on Maria Holic but I was asked not to remove anything so this is beyond my competence.
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Yes, Crowlage, it is absolute hell, which is why I removed myself from the majority of the responsibility.

Maria Holic was up there before I was even here. I've seen part of the first episode and at the very least, the main female character should be on the character relations, yes?
Jul 22, 2014 1:18 PM
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I missed the comment on Soul Eater Not. Go ahead and add it.
Jul 22, 2014 1:37 PM

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Added Soul Eater NOT!.

However, about Maria Holic, if it stays in our relations, I'm against putting the MC on character relations. It's pointless and it already takes too much space with characters on out list that are MCs in anime in our list. My idea about handling this would be having in character relations yuri characters that aren't featured in anime from relations list. Could I clean up at least the character relations list? It's not like anyone cares about that... but me, that is.
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yuri is a matter of sexuality. If in Kashimashi it was a guy from the beginning I really don't see it as yuri. It's not a girl and girl it's a girl and a guy in girl's body. His mind, sexuality and everything stayed original. He pretty much became a transsexual but even with transsexuals, their sexuality is judged by what it would be if their body and mind were aligned. If his body and mind were aligned, he'd be straight.

I think it's very obvious that Homura is in love with Madoka since there's no damn way someone would go that far to make sure a friend is happy as her. Note: It was never about Homura being happy until 3rd film but then she outright admitted that she loved her. I haven't her a friend use the word love to a friend like Homura did because it wasn't when she was happy or pleased or to praise her or something, it felt like her own revelation about her feelings. As if she realised, after all that time, that she did it for Madoka because she loves her not because of some weird seriously obsessive friendship.

I agree with you on Maria Holic but I was asked not to remove anything so this is beyond my competence.


I agree 100%. And Maria Holic, even though one of the MC is a guy dressed as a girl, the other MC is a girl and she is a 100%lesbian.
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Jul 22, 2014 2:42 PM

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^We could have her in character relations list (but definitely not in both).
Jul 22, 2014 4:12 PM

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Yeah, her in character relations is the best bet.
Jul 22, 2014 7:06 PM
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HikaruIzumi said:
Could I clean up at least the character relations list?

I need some time to contemplate on what I want (you) to do.
Jul 22, 2014 7:16 PM
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So have we decided on any parameters for this list yet? I'll bring up Sailor Moon again (specifically the S and Sailor Stars seasons): a prominent canon yuri couple and some romantic-ish scenes between them (they even make a reference to bed o_O) and one of them is fairly manly in appearance, which causes some of the sailor scouts to swoon over her, even after they find out she's a female.
Jul 22, 2014 8:05 PM
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I'm in favor of adding either the couple in the character relations or the S and Sailor Star seasons specifically.
Jul 22, 2014 9:46 PM

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I agree as well. I'm actually surprised it wasn't already in there. But it should definitely be in it, for both anime and character. As a sailor moon fan, i know for a fact they are together, and yes Haruka is always making advances at michiru, and she clearly accepts them! :b

But yes both anime and characters please! :D
Jul 23, 2014 12:56 AM

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I'd rather not have "double" mentions in character list and the others. Besides, Haruka and Michiru are main characters (and form what I remember very very yuri) so it's not like people will need glowing arrows to indicate who the yuri characters are.

Adding S and Stars to anime relations list.

I understand. My point isn't to take over the world the lists but to make it easier to understand and to make them a bit more organised. If you feel like that won't help, I won't mind if you reject my proposal (I'm still talking about character relations list only). I understand that the list is something that was created way before I even joined this club so I'll give it the respect elderly deserve.
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Jul 25, 2014 8:48 AM

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I ask that Futari Dake in english "Just the Two of us" Shoujo ai one-shot be added to the manga relations. :D
Jul 25, 2014 8:07 PM
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done
Jul 26, 2014 6:25 AM

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Just asking - is there any particular reason why "A-Channel" isn't on the list?
Jul 26, 2014 12:17 PM
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Not any particular reason but a lot of vague and abstract ones.

I'm not going to put it there but I won't block its inclusion.
Jul 26, 2014 11:48 PM

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Thanks for taking care of this for me.

Why should A-Channel be there?
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Because of how much Tooru LOVES Run - her reaction after seeing Run on the bed with Yuuko says a lot. Tooru also like to play with Yuuko's boobs. There is more yuri subtext in the rest of the show as well - like how much Tooru's two classmates want to be close to her.
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@HikaruIzumi Sabagebu! Should be added soon or after it's finished airing. That show has like a 85% chance of an accidental kiss between Momoka and Urara.
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Adding A-Channel since I understand it has more yuri subtext than just one yuri character.

@Crowlage It's just 4 episodes in so I want to wait a bit (assuming the yuri level stays the same) or until it finishes. I want to avoid adding it just for it to suddenly kill off Urara next episode or something like that. Just in case.
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I ask that R18 is added to the relation list. It's an abandoned project but still is a Yuri manga.
Aug 4, 2014 12:36 AM

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It has yuri as genre so added.
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Anybody seen Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon? Just completed watching it's 2nd season. I wouldn't say, that the show itself is Yuri, but it has a canon Yuri couple; Malga x Margot. Might add the characters to the club's relations list...?
Aug 26, 2014 10:01 PM
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Added.
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Thanks, for taking care of this for me.

Also, I'd like to bring Sabagebu! to everyone's attention one more time. I wanted to wait until it finishes but I really don't think the yuri in it is going to just disappear at this point. There's yuri in every episode and the anime is very open about it. There's not really a canon yuri couple (although there are some cases which are arguable) but there's plenty of very obvious crushes that go as far as the narrator and the involved outright talking about love.
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+1 for Sabagebu
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All things considered, adding Sabagebu!. Thanks, Aipom, for being the only one to actually discuss it in this thread.
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HikaruIzumi said:
All things considered, adding Sabagebu!. Thanks, Aipom, for being the only one to actually discuss it in this thread.

Well, that's the last time I support you when making such a critical discussion. T___T
Sep 7, 2014 7:33 AM

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Aww... I just thought it was funny how everyone ignored my request... *hugs Crowlage*
Sep 7, 2014 7:44 AM
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I wasn't really getting the argument for not adding it, so I didn't want to chime in.
Sep 7, 2014 8:28 AM

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It did get one nay before so I wanted to know if that was still the case or not.
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Who? Let's find them and hurt them.
Dec 11, 2014 9:18 PM

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Should we add Majo to Houki to Kurobuchi Megane into the manga relations? It's pretty far in chapter by now. (Chapter 37)
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