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LoveandHate91 said: Yeah, the gilgamesh role was up for grabsWas Gil added to the Rp before he was picked? |
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| Maybe he should have been a archer class instead of just another class because if he was picked assassin would already have a team because we have 7 teams without the assassin class and team even made |
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LoveandHate91 said: Well that's Gilgamesh he could be whatever he wantsMaybe he should have been a archer class instead of just another class because if he was picked assassin would already have a team because we have 7 teams without the assassin class and team even made |
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LoveandHate91 said: Maybe he should have been a archer class instead of just another class because if he was picked assassin would already have a team because we have 7 teams without the assassin class and team even made But if he took the Archer class we wouldn't have Garcher... And Gil really doesn't have a class. He's just too good to be restricted to only one class. |
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| But it means that there can be more then one of each class why is it archer class is the only class that has two servants out and plus that means to beat Gil you have to kill him because he can function without a master |
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LoveandHate91 said: Think of it like this- Gligamesh can be summoned as any class ( maybe except Caster). but he just happened to be summoned as an Archer.But it means that there can be more then one of each class why is it archer class is the only class that has two servants out and plus that means to beat Gil you have to kill him because he can function without a master |
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| He dosnt have to be summoned though he can still live even if his master is killed |
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| This Gilgamesh isn't an Archer, even though he originated from the "Gilgamesh who was summoned as Archer in the 4th War". Thus, he doesn't have a class. |
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| So hes just some rogue servant that dosnt have to follow any of the rules |
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| Something like that, yes. Think of him as a wild card of sorts. |
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LoveandHate91 said: So hes just some rogue servant that dosnt have to follow any of the rules Of course, he does, but it's just that he's...rather ridiculous in that he's Gilgamesh. Even if he were indeed in a class, it wouldn't make any difference. But at least he doesn't have a flesh body anymore- ah, then again, that's probably even worse, huh? He is still fundamentally a Servant who gets mana from his Master, Shrimp-kun, but somehow, I doubt that even if Shrimp-kun was assassinated, it wouldn't stop him very much... Rather, the situation would be even worse. |
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| thats more of less the point to beat Gil you have to kill him not his master |
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LoveandHate91 said: Well on the wiki Gil has a power that allows him to stay without a master so why isnt there any other heroic spirts with that power? Simple. Because, Wikipedia said: The Epic of Gilgamesh is an epic poem from ancient Mesopotamia. Dating from the Third Dynasty of Ur (circa 2100 BC), it is often regarded as the first great work of literature. It is the first great legend, from which all others derive. It is the original, and everything that came afterwards both were inspired by it and incorporated elements of it into their own plots. Gilgamesh is the original hero. The KING of HEROES. The strongest. That's why. It should come as no surprise that he can do a hell load of things other Servants can't~ |
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| Yup. That's why it's so fun to fight him. No shortcuts whatsoever. You have to make sure he's underestimating you and then shove his big ego in his way so he doesn't kill you. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Yeah, look at Alexander, Gil respected him and fought seriously . Then look at what happened.. poor AlexYup. That's why it's so fun to fight him. No shortcuts whatsoever. You have to make sure he's underestimating you and then shove his big ego in his way so he doesn't kill you. |
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blacknight201 said: OneTrueEmiya said: Yeah, look at Alexander, Gil respected him and fought seriously . Then look at what happened.. poor AlexYup. That's why it's so fun to fight him. No shortcuts whatsoever. You have to make sure he's underestimating you and then shove his big ego in his way so he doesn't kill you. Iskandar wouldn't have a chance either way, tbh. |
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HungryPriest said: Yep, NP compatibility from the start.. and Rider without his NP is.... mediocreblacknight201 said: Yeah, look at Alexander, Gil respected him and fought seriously . Then look at what happened.. poor Alex Iskandar wouldn't have a chance either way, tbh. |
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HungryPriest said: blacknight201 said: Yeah, look at Alexander, Gil respected him and fought seriously . Then look at what happened.. poor Alex Iskandar wouldn't have a chance either way, tbh. Actually, he could've just deployed Gilgamesh in the midst of his army (instead of on the other side of the horizon) so they'd utterly tear him apart before he can even begin to pull out Ea, or any weapon from GoB for that matter to defend himself. After all, Rider controls where everyone who enters his RM is placed (his usual tactic being to deploy allies in his army, and enemies on the other side), so. I suppose it was due to honour. For the sake of a fair fight between the two greatest powers. That, or the army might not identify him as an enemy until he's already started using GoB, pulling out some ultimate defense and killing everyone left and right, at which time he can safely pull out Ea. I dunno, can Rider psychically tell his army exactly what they're supposed to be doing so they'll be ready the instant it happens? ... Eh, in any case, Rider is useless without his NP, as all Riders are. |
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blacknight201 said: HungryPriest said: Yep, NP compatibility from the start.. and Rider without his NP is.... mediocreIskandar wouldn't have a chance either way, tbh. Rider should've been quite the menacing foe for a few Servants...if he didn't ride in front of his army and become a large inviting target for people to snipe/stab/Excaliblast/Enuma Elish. And besides, he's just like Gil, underestimating others and making dumb choices at the cost of being cool like riding towards Gil instead of summoning him in the middle of his army... He was lucky tbh, that he didn't have an all-out fight with Saber. She would've torched his big fat bottom. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Rider should've been quite the menacing foe for a few Servants...if he didn't ride in front of his army and become a large inviting target for people to snipe/stab/Excaliblast/Enuma Elish. And besides, he's just like Gil, underestimating others and making dumb choices at the cost of being cool like riding towards Gil instead of summoning him in the middle of his army... Indeed, indeed. Also, a friendly reminder for Barbarian: "Also, you must not under any circumstances act in direct opposition against me. If there is anyone who plans on doing so, you must try your best to stop them." This command extends to even Caster trying to use Rule Breaker on Elizabeth. Thus, she can't agree of her own free will, and the geas will probably make her fight her own Servant if Caster tries to do it forcefully~ |
CarenPriestessMar 29, 2015 4:21 AM
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| It's a real pity Zero Rider isn't in this RP. I'd imagine Rider RM'ing, setting himself 10 km away from his enemy, then charging at him/her screaming that ridiculous battle cry. The ground trembles and quakes as 10,000 spirits race across the battlefield. Then Archer snipes him with Hrunting. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: It's a real pity Zero Rider isn't in this RP. I'd imagine Rider RM'ing, setting himself 10 km away from his enemy, then charging at him/her screaming that ridiculous battle cry. The ground trembles and quakes as 10,000 spirits race across the battlefield. Then Archer snipes him with Hrunting. You know, I've always thought that even F/SN Rider could beat F/Z Rider. Basically: >F/Z Rider deploys Ionian Hetairoi >F/SN Rider summons her Pegasus and goes up into the sky safely so the army can't reach her. >F/Z Rider uses chariot to chase after Rider. >With Pegasus's superior speed and Rider's Mystic Eyes activated to slow the dude down - plus long-ranged chain-nails that can be shot, as opposed to a flimsy little blade - she should logically be able to outspeed and ultimately destroy him in the sky. That is, assuming Cybele doesn't immediately turn him to stone due to his flimsy D Rank Magic Resistance. ... Or even easier, she could just turn into her giant monster form and turn the whole army all to stone on the spot. Chances are that they won't really have much better Magic Resistance than Iskandar himself In any case, boom, Medusa wins. ... But with F/SN Archer, yeah, he's even more screwed. Sniped on the spot. Boom. Dead. |
CarenPriestessMar 29, 2015 4:31 AM
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CarenPriest said: OneTrueEmiya said: It's a real pity Zero Rider isn't in this RP. I'd imagine Rider RM'ing, setting himself 10 km away from his enemy, then charging at him/her screaming that ridiculous battle cry. The ground trembles and quakes as 10,000 spirits race across the battlefield. Then Archer snipes him with Hrunting. You know, I've always thought that even F/SN Rider could beat F/Z Rider. Basically: >F/Z Rider deploys Ionian Hetairoi >F/SN Rider summons her Pegasus and goes up into the sky safely so the army can't reach her. >F/Z Rider uses chariot to chase after Rider. >With Pegasus's superior speed and Rider's Mystic Eyes activated to slow the dude down - plus long-ranged chain-nails that can be shot, as opposed to a flimsy little blade - she should logically be able to outspeed and ultimately destroy him in the sky. ... Or even easier, she could just turn into her giant monster form and turn them all to stone on the spot. In any case, boom, Medusa wins. I think Fai was ranting about this the other day. Medusa could Bellerophon Rider regardless of whatever he tries to do. Hell, Rider can Bellerophon most Servants and get away with it. To put it in perspective, Nasu said it breaks Rho Aius :0 |
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CarenPriest said: Also, a friendly reminder for Barbarian: "Also, you must not under any circumstances act in direct opposition against me. If there is anyone who plans on doing so, you must try your best to stop them." This command extends to even Caster trying to use Rule Breaker on Elizabeth. Thus, she can't agree of her own free will, and the geas will probably make her fight her own Servant if Caster tries to do it forcefully~ Except Caren never told Elizabeth not to remove the geas under any circumstance. Your wording is... a bit flawed in that matter. So if it's indirect opposition, then it is ok? :3 |
Stev said: ayy lmao |
HungryPriest said: CarenPriest said: Also, a friendly reminder for Barbarian: "Also, you must not under any circumstances act in direct opposition against me. If there is anyone who plans on doing so, you must try your best to stop them." This command extends to even Caster trying to use Rule Breaker on Elizabeth. Thus, she can't agree of her own free will, and the geas will probably make her fight her own Servant if Caster tries to do it forcefully~ Except Caren never told Elizabeth not to remove the geas under any circumstance. Your wording is... a bit flawed in that matter. So if it's indirect opposition, then it is ok? :3 Oh snap. Caren you done goofed. |
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| Woah come to think of it... Ionian Hetaroi really has so much weaknesses |
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| So Caren, let's forget about UBW, salt and Miura and focus on the fun and happiness in this RP instead :D |
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OneTrueEmiya said: UBW BD <3So Caren, let's forget about UBW, salt and Miura and focus on the fun and happiness in this RP instead :D |
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blacknight201 said: Woah come to think of it... Ionian Hetaroi really has so much weaknesses It's cool and awe-inspiring, but the coolness only covers up its many weaknesses. IH is like UBW in that regard. Both are RMs that are the pinnacle of magecraft, but they would crumble against more powerful abilities. Except that UBW has thousands of NPs in place of weak E-rank Servants and EMIYA is far more pragmatic and would start spamming swords the moment the RM is formed. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: blacknight201 said: Woah come to think of it... Ionian Hetaroi really has so much weaknesses It's cool and awe-inspiring, but the coolness only covers up its many weaknesses. IH is like UBW in that regard. Both are RMs that are the pinnacle of magecraft, but they would crumble against more powerful abilities. Except that UBW has thousands of NPs in place of weak E-rank Servants and EMIYA is far more pragmatic and would start spamming swords the moment the RM is formed. And his swords can hit air. Honestly, if ZeroRider (avoiding identity spoilers) placed Gilgamesh in the middle of his army instead of giving him such a head start, he would've had better chances. I don't remember that Nasu outright stated that Bellerophon can break Rho Aias... I do remember only that he said that "it comes whether Rho Aias can hold against Bellerophon or not". |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: OneTrueEmiya said: It's cool and awe-inspiring, but the coolness only covers up its many weaknesses. IH is like UBW in that regard. Both are RMs that are the pinnacle of magecraft, but they would crumble against more powerful abilities. Except that UBW has thousands of NPs in place of weak E-rank Servants and EMIYA is far more pragmatic and would start spamming swords the moment the RM is formed. And his swords can hit air. Honestly, if ZeroRider (avoiding identity spoilers) placed Gilgamesh in the middle of his army instead of giving him such a head start, he would've had better chances. I don't remember that Nasu outright stated that Bellerophon can break Rho Aias... I do remember only that he said that "it comes whether Rho Aias can hold against Bellerophon or not". I wouldn't be so optimistic in regards to Rho Aius, as it could barely block Lancer's B-rank NP, and Bellerophon is A+ rank. But Archer can certainly make life difficult for Rider with Hrunting and blade spam. Alright, since we're talking about Zero Rider: Let's make a list of how many Servants he can defeat: Zero Lancer (x) Gil ( ) Saber ( ) Zero Caster ( ) Zero Assassin (x) Zero Berserker (with Arondight) ( ) Archer ( ) Rider ( ) Caster ( ) Sasaki Assassin (x) Kikiki Assassin (x) Berserker ( ) Lancer ( ) 4/13 is a rather horrid track record xD |
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OneTrueEmiya said: ZeroRider shouldn't had his head high up just because he crushed a bunch of HASSANS XDAurioch said: And his swords can hit air. Honestly, if ZeroRider (avoiding identity spoilers) placed Gilgamesh in the middle of his army instead of giving him such a head start, he would've had better chances. I don't remember that Nasu outright stated that Bellerophon can break Rho Aias... I do remember only that he said that "it comes whether Rho Aias can hold against Bellerophon or not". I wouldn't be so optimistic in regards to Rho Aius, as it could barely block Lancer's B-rank NP, and Bellerophon is A+ rank. But Archer can certainly make life difficult for Rider with Hrunting and blade spam. Alright, since we're talking about Zero Rider: Let's make a list of how many Servants he can defeat: Zero Lancer (x) Gil ( ) Saber ( ) Zero Caster ( ) Zero Assassin (x) Zero Berserker (with Arondight) ( ) Archer ( ) Rider ( ) Caster ( ) Sasaki Assassin (x) Kikiki Assassin (x) Berserker ( ) Lancer ( ) 4/13 is a rather horrid track record xD |
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blacknight201 said: ZeroRider shouldn't had his head high up just because he crushed a bunch of HASSANS XD I suppose you gotta give him some credit. At least he has a Reality Marble! Okay, it's a crap one. But still! |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Even Kotomine Kirei ranked it as EX lol!blacknight201 said: ZeroRider shouldn't had his head high up just because he crushed a bunch of HASSANS XD I suppose you gotta give him some credit. At least he has a Reality Marble! Okay, it's a crap one. But still! |
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HungryPriest said: CarenPriest said: Also, a friendly reminder for Barbarian: "Also, you must not under any circumstances act in direct opposition against me. If there is anyone who plans on doing so, you must try your best to stop them." This command extends to even Caster trying to use Rule Breaker on Elizabeth. Thus, she can't agree of her own free will, and the geas will probably make her fight her own Servant if Caster tries to do it forcefully~ Except Caren never told Elizabeth not to remove the geas under any circumstance. Your wording is... a bit flawed in that matter. So if it's indirect opposition, then it is ok? :3 It's intentional to give you some more freedom, though I had admittedly forgotten about Rule Breaker~ Even so, our definitions of what's direct and indirect seems to be a bit different. Well, telling Caster "use Rule Breaker on me" or "remove my geas" in any conscious way should be direct opposition, silly, since you're blatantly violating my, Caren's intentions~ But trying to move in ways that will ultimately lead to that result, with a combination of vague sentences and luck, AKA indirect movement - that could work. As in, even if you can't outright tell Caster "use Rule Breaker on me", you need to give her some sort of signal that she should go assault you and attempt to get rid of it (even if you fight back). OneTrueEmiya said: So Caren, let's forget about UBW, salt and Miura and focus on the fun and happiness in this RP instead :D Okaaaay~ You're absolutely right, Shirou Emiya, I should focus on the fun and happiness here...so I can squash it all :3 |
CarenPriestessMar 29, 2015 8:10 AM
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k0k0 said: My character has been very pleasantly hijacked and mutilated by a Mad Scientist and an over-emotional kid. Oh my. Saber, you are quite the player yourself, aren'tcha~ HungryPriest said: Up to her... That's a strange way of putting it. Did that priestess put something in her head already? As they land in the Temple, while Elizabeth is still keeping her eyes closed, she prepares her Rule Breaker and immediately proceeds to stab her. There's work to be done and no time to lose. I knew I should've gone with "If Caster tries to remove your geas, use a Command Seal to force her to commit suicide"...! ...well, apart from that, I was also thinking of giving the order "Kill all Masters on sight", but didn't do that since I thought Caster would be the one to summon Assassin at the time and that would've proven to be disastrous xD Oh well. Fight back, Elizabeth! Go! Deck that witch in the face! |
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CarenPriest said: Oh my. Saber, you are quite the player yourself, aren'tcha~ Aw, Caren, you know Saber's such a robotic angel. She would never~ ^_^ I am worried about Castah, however. How dare she try to surpass the Overseer. |
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CarenPriest said: k0k0 said: My character has been very pleasantly hijacked and mutilated by a Mad Scientist and an over-emotional kid. Oh my. Saber, you are quite the player yourself, aren'tcha~ HungryPriest said: Up to her... That's a strange way of putting it. Did that priestess put something in her head already? As they land in the Temple, while Elizabeth is still keeping her eyes closed, she prepares her Rule Breaker and immediately proceeds to stab her. There's work to be done and no time to lose. I knew I should've gone with "If Caster tries to remove your geas, use a Command Seal to force her to commit suicide"...! ...well, apart from that, I was also thinking of giving the order "Kill all Masters on sight", but didn't do that since I thought Caster would be the one to summon Assassin at the time and that would've proven to be disastrous xD Oh well. Fight back, Elizabeth! Go! Deck that witch in the face! Yeah, that is right. I guess I have to do that, but technically, If Caster already did it the way she did? Wouldn't that work? Because it's not like she was actually sure whether Caster would do it or not. |
k0k0 said: CarenPriest said: Oh my. Saber, you are quite the player yourself, aren'tcha~ Aw, Caren, you know Saber's such a robotic angel. She would never~ ^_^ And yet, if we are to look at the history, she had a gigantic twenty-five-member reverse harem filled primarily with hot knight bishies, if Bedivere, Lancelot, and Gawain are anything to go by...! Perhaps this was her true unconscious intention in forming the Knights of the Round Table all along?! Her repressed desires of being a young girl manifesting by selecting the hottest throughout the whole land of Britain?! Not to mention there's Merlin! Plus, if we randomly throw in Guinevere and Mordred, then... Then... And that's not even taking into account the Holy Grail Wars yet-------! x___x *dies* k0k0 said: I am worried about Castah, however. How dare she try to surpass the Overseer. Ugu, I was hoping to keep Caster under wraps by keeping Elizabeth under wraps, but Rule Breaker is just too troublesome... Surely, there must be consequences in the future should that geas be removed. |
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CarenPriest said: I love the idea of a playboy Saber <3k0k0 said: Aw, Caren, you know Saber's such a robotic angel. She would never~ ^_^ And yet, if we are to look at the history, she had a gigantic twenty-five-member reverse harem filled primarily with hot knight bishies, if Bedivere, Lancelot, and Gawain are anything to go by...! Perhaps this was her true unconscious intention in forming the Knights of the Round Table all along?! Her repressed desires of being a young girl manifesting by selecting the hottest throughout the whole land of Britain?! Not to mention there's Merlin! Plus, if we randomly throw in Guinevere and Mordred, then... Then... And that's not even taking into account the Holy Grail Wars yet-------! x___x *dies* k0k0 said: I am worried about Castah, however. How dare she try to surpass the Overseer. Ugu, I was hoping to keep Caster under wraps by keeping Elizabeth under wraps, but Rule Breaker is just too troublesome... Surely, there must be consequences in the future should that geas be removed. |
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CarenPriest said: And yet, if we are to look at the history, she had a gigantic twenty-five-member reverse harem filled primarily with hot knight bishies, if Bedivere, Lancelot, and Gawain are anything to go by...! Perhaps this was her true unconscious intention in forming the Knights of the Round Table all along?! Her repressed desires of being a young girl manifesting by selecting the hottest throughout the whole land of Britain?! Not to mention there's Merlin! Plus, if we randomly throw in Guinevere and Mordred, then... Then... And that's not even taking into account the Holy Grail Wars yet-------! x___x *dies* Oh my. I had nearly forgotten... the disadvantage of leading several lives, you know. However, I assure you, I would rather play along with my British bishies than to coil up with a 17 year old and a mad scientist! Saber has honor! And that Caster is giving me creeps... Ugu, I was hoping to keep Caster under wraps by keeping Elizabeth under wraps, but Rule Breaker is just too troublesome... Surely, there must be consequences in the future should that geas be removed. Yes! YES Caren! Punish them! PUNISH THEM! blacknight201 said: I love the idea of a playboy Saber <3 Ohohoho! |
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k0k0 said: CarenPriest said: And yet, if we are to look at the history, she had a gigantic twenty-five-member reverse harem filled primarily with hot knight bishies, if Bedivere, Lancelot, and Gawain are anything to go by...! Perhaps this was her true unconscious intention in forming the Knights of the Round Table all along?! Her repressed desires of being a young girl manifesting by selecting the hottest throughout the whole land of Britain?! Not to mention there's Merlin! Plus, if we randomly throw in Guinevere and Mordred, then... Then... And that's not even taking into account the Holy Grail Wars yet-------! x___x *dies* Oh my. I had nearly forgotten... the disadvantage of leading several lives, you know. However, I assure you, I would rather play along with my British bishies than to coil up with a 17 year old and a mad scientist! Saber has honor! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR HONOUR ON THE BATTLEFIELD THE BATTLEFIELD IS HELL ITSELF AND NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED THERE BUT MEANINGLESS DEATH. I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT DIARMUID MANKIND HAS NOT ADVANCED A SINGLE STEP FROM THE STONE AGE WAAAAHHHHH k0k0 said: Yes! YES Caren! Punish them! PUNISH THEM! Oh, that I will :3 that I definitely will... Barbarian and HungryPriest, since you two have willingly broken the geas placed by the Overseer that controls the game, that shall be seen as a direct act of defiance against the war itself~ Little did you know, that by breaking it, you have also severed the one thing that kept you in her good graces. Basically, you better hurry up and prepare yourselves while you still have the chance. You have until midnight IC time. Waaahahhahahahahaha! |
CarenPriestessMar 29, 2015 10:47 AM
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| Yes, we've been totally in good graces so far. :P |
Stev said: ayy lmao |
CarenPriest said: k0k0 said: Oh my. I had nearly forgotten... the disadvantage of leading several lives, you know. However, I assure you, I would rather play along with my British bishies than to coil up with a 17 year old and a mad scientist! Saber has honor! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR HONOUR ON THE BATTLEFIELD THE BATTLEFIELD IS HELL ITSELF AND NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED THERE BUT MEANINGLESS DEATH. I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT DIARMUID MANKIND HAS NOT ADVANCED A SINGLE STEP FROM THE STONE AGE WAAAAHHHHH k0k0 said: Yes! YES Caren! Punish them! PUNISH THEM! Oh, that I will :3 that I definitely will... Barbarian and HungryPriest, since you two have willingly broken the geas placed by the Overseer that controls the game, that shall be seen as a direct act of defiance against the war itself~ Little did you know, that by breaking it, you have also severed the one thing that kept you in her good graces. Basically, you better hurry up and prepare yourselves while you still have the chance. You have until midnight. Waaahahhahahahahaha! Oh lord, well, Me and Caster will not cower. But that sucks for me considering I still have a full project I need to do today that I haven't even started yet xD could me and HungryPriest possibly get an extension on this fight? Perhaps like, tomorrow at least? |
| [quote=CarenPriest Basically, you better hurry up and prepare yourselves while you still have the chance. You have until midnight IC time. Waaahahhahahahahaha![/quote] Oh god, thats even worse for me xD |
| IC time means when in the game clock hits midnight. So... you have about 13 hours in game to summon a dragon or gather an allies. Provided you survive Karna first. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
HungryPriest said: Yes, we've been totally in good graces so far. :P Yeah, you especially have~ Caren's order of priority threat is basically: 1. Kirei - total anomaly whose movements cannot be predicted, MUST DIE at first given opportunity 2. Gil-kun - he wrecks the entire balance of everything so he needs to go 3. Caster - she has Rule Breaker, and is a magus who will definitely do crazy things to the war... That is very bad. Caren was hoping that she'd be able to control Caster via Elizabeth, but since that's not working too well... |
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| Meanwhile, Caren is steadily rising on Archer's threat table. This will be interesting... |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
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