| it's called necromancy and it's nothing to be ashamed of >.> anime is the japanese word for cartoon. what the people who use this word refers to are japanese cartoons. what you think japanese cartoons are can be left completely up to your imagination (in other words, your view on what anime means can be as fked up as u want it to be) or you can think of it this way - the word of wikipedia is absolute: Anime is animation in Japan and considered to be "Japanese animation" in the rest of the world. |
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| Anime = Japanese cartoons Cartoon = Western anime Even though "anime" means something entirely different in Japanese than English, that doesn't mean one is right and the other is wrong. Also, given how heated arguments about whether or not something is a cartoon/anime can get (not here specifically, but in general), I think some people might be assuming that making the distinction implies some kind of value judgment. It's just a categorization, nothing more. If someone calls Avatar: The Last Airbender a cartoon instead of an anime, it doesn't mean that they don't like it. Certainly, the distinction is less relevant today as a fair number of western cartoons are being styled after anime, and both cartoons and anime are movie more towards CG. |
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| There is an ongoing debate of what 'anime' actually means. It's important to the moderators because it will determine whether or not a title should be included in the MAL database. The moderators are going to exclude a number of the titles already here because it doesn't conform to what 'anime' is to them: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6680/Dojoji_Temple http://myanimelist.net/anime/7255/Hanaori http://myanimelist.net/anime/7170/House_of_Flameshttp://myanimelist.net/anime/7169/Ibara-Hime_mata_wa_Nemuri-Hime http://myanimelist.net/anime/7259/Kenju_Giga http://myanimelist.net/anime/7257/Shijin_no_Shougai http://myanimelist.net/anime/7171/The_Demon http://myanimelist.net/anime/4966/Self-Portrait http://myanimelist.net/anime/5842/Kotatsu_Neko_ONA The majority of the titles done in stop motion style and was created by multi-awarded and highly regarded Kihachiro Kawamoto . Kawamoto is Japanese and he had Japanese audience for his work. He is also the President of the Japanese Animation Association. The mods, though are not convinced that this is anime. So what is anime? Do you agree with the mods' definition? |
TsukikageRanOct 23, 2009 7:33 AM
lblsslx said: saintcross said: Xenzio said: Because it's animation made in Japan. I think it's all complete bullshit. For me Anime = Anime, which means, everything animated. Anime, Cartoons, Tekenfilms etc, all mean the same damn thing, so I don't go around and categorize it as "American Cartoons, or Japanese Anime".. Technically that's true but it's pretty much accepted that the meaning of Anime is "Japanese cartoons". I mean this website doesn't have Avatar or South Park or Aqua Teen Hunger Force etc. Plus do you seriously think of something like Family Guy if someone asks you "Do you watch Anime?" let me get away from anime/cartoon show..... lets just say a japanese guy acting undefinably crazy... another japanese person can consider him an AHO or BAKA, however, western can't call him an IDIOT? which basically the same.. QUESTION: what is a cartoon? ANSWER: it's a bunch of drawings put together and made into a show QUESTION: what is an anime? ANSWER: it's a bunch of drawings put together and made into a show i fail to see the differences, therefore, i conclude TO MYSELF that, cartoon and anime own the same meaning using two different terms. therefore it's the same lblsslx speaks the truth. it doesn't matter wheter you call it Japanese animation, Japanamation, animation, anime, or cartoon. A rose by any other name is still a rose. |
sukidayo said: lblsslx said: QUESTION: what is a cartoon? ANSWER: it's a bunch of drawings put together and made into a show QUESTION: what is an anime? ANSWER: it's a bunch of drawings put together and made into a show i fail to see the differences, therefore, i conclude TO MYSELF that, cartoon and anime own the same meaning using two different terms. therefore it's the same i like this logic. straight and direct. i dont see why it has to be split to different categories when they are just bunch of drawing put together for people to watch. they are basically the same thing just different words. i bet the process of making anime and/or making cartoon are the same. I can come up with two possible reasons for these distinctions. Both are cultural reasons. Regardless of reason, it's the power of language and terminology tends to stick: 1. American dominance. If you say the word "American", the word "pride" can easily be attached to it. The term "anime" surfaced when it was still an unknown; and American "cartoons" were still the norm. I remember the days of Saturday morning cartoons, for example. For this animation medium to come out of Japan, it was an "un-American" product. Therefore, it had to be separate from anything America produces. For something "unAmerican" to be culturally mixed with "American" seems non-sensical. Ironically, America itself is an amalgamation of many cultures. So go figure. 2. Japanophilia. Historically, there had been a general curiousity with Asian countries, particularly Japan. Of all the Asian countries, it is Japan that tends to emulate the West the most. This is no accident. Japan has the unusual tendency to adopt ideas from foreign lands easily. This explains the quick development of a completely agricultural nation from the 1860's into an industrial powerhouse in the early 20th century. Likewise, there is something about Japanese culture that strikes the curiousity of the West. |
| Click on this. I dare you. | MAL Fantasy Football League | Currently Watching List RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. |
| Anime means japanese animation. It doesn't matter how the animation looks (for example, if the characters have big eyes, like in "Avatar: The Last Airbender"), what matter is where the animation came from and who made it (so "Avatar" is not anime because it is made by americans). Therefore, any animation made by japanese, animation that was created in Japan, can be considered anime. "Teen Titans" is definitely not anime. |
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| Aside from anime being made in Japan, for a Japanese audience, I think the main difference between anime and cartoon is that anime can be targeted to audiences of all ages, while cartoons are specifically for kids. A 30 year old American watching cartoons would be extremely weird, while a 30 year old Nippon-jin watching anime is perfectly normal. Precure and Highschool DxD are both anime, despite being targeted for radically different audiences. My Little Pony is a cartoon for kids. Family Guy isn't a cartoon, but it's not anime either. |
| >Ecchi na no wa ikenai to omoimasu!< |
| Sorry for the necropost, I know the last reply was in 2014. But Kenny Lauderdale on Youtube brought up that topic, and he seem to be correct on his analysis. I mean beside Star Musketeer Bismark/Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs, there's also Lion Voltron/Golion which has 20 episodes made exclusive for the US/American market. The Queen Merla character in Voltron never appeared in the Japanese Golion version.  Queen Merla, a villain in Voltron never appeared in the Japanese original. This character doesn't have a Japanese name or her Japanese seiyu. This character was made for the American market. Oh and the crossover movie, Voltron: Fleet of Doom was never released in Japan at all despite it used mecha from 2 different anime. So does that mean Voltron/Golion loses it's anime status because of the 20 episodes and one character and Fleet of Doom movie exclusively made for the American market? Also he's right about Nutcracker Fantasy. If that is considered anime, then what about Rankin-Bass's "Animagic" stop motion work like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Santa Claus is Comin to Town, The year without a Santa Claus. MOM Production, The studio that did Nutcracker Fantasy was also the same studio that did all of Rankin-Bass's stop motion animation work. So that means a lot of Rankin-Bass's "Animagic" stop motion work will have to be re-classified as anime because of that connection. I mean Rankin-Bass's 1985, The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus was shown in Japan the same time it was shown in the US, under the name: Santa's Secret and Great Adventure (サンタの秘密と大冒険, lit. Santa no Himitsu to Dai Bōken). Rankin-Bass's The Stingiest Man in Town was done in Japan and animated by Topcraft (which was responsible for doing Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and many of the animators from Topcraft would later joined Studio Ghibli). That special was also shown in Japan under the name 町一番のけちんぼう, Machi Ichiban no Kechinbō So if Nutcracker Fantasy is classified as anime, along with some Rankin-Bass's stop motion like the Life and Adventure of Santa Claus, and The Stingiest man in town now classified as anime. What about The Last Unicorn (that was also done by Topcraft, and Rankin-Bass), Does that make The Last Unicorn an anime? So yeah the definition of what is anime get kind of blurred if you watched the video essay from Kenny Lauderdale carefully. |
mdo7Jul 17, 2022 3:11 PM
| And here's one that'll make you question what is anime? Anybody watch The Idhun Chronicles/Memorias de Idhún on Netflix? The animation looks on par as any Japanese animation. But here's the twist, this animation wasn't done by Japanese and if you look at the original language on Netflix, it's not Japanese, It's Spanish. See that, as Kenny Lauderdale said, "what is anime" when the animation resemble anime, but not done in Japan. |
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